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starsandstripes
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 Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 05:31 pm
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you just don't get it!!!

the city council puts the commercial interests before the interests of the children of milford. plain and simple.

     no one cares about the children ..if they did, who would want 32 gas pumps with the potential of danger  within 500 feet of a school, if the city ordinance said it was a vialation??

if it is not a danger, then, change the law , like in u.s.a. or, like in AMERICA ..

OR, MOVE THE GAS PUMPS OVER TO THE OTHER FOUR PROPERTY SLOTS BEING BUILT. NOPE, ITS BUILDERS FIRST AND WHAT THEY WANT, THE COUNCIL GIVES.

 

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 Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 01:44 pm
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If you lookat the property where the service station will go, looks like its under 500 ft.

Did the city attorney do his job? And did the City Council, Mayor, City Manager, Planning Board, City Planner, etc. do their job? 

do we still have a city council that is too weak?

Has anyone from the city investigated what is a service station ?

What is a convenience store with pumps? 

Did anyone read the city codes?  couple of the councilman did? but what happen to the others?

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 01:39 am
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500 feet really isn't that far.  My guess is that they will place the tanks and pumps at least that far from the road to comply with the law.  Stay tuned, same rat time....., same rat channel.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 01:18 am
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Especially with the new field hockey field and football stadium, that is the major question, why allow it? Why allow it - because the Milford City Council has no guts to stand up not only for the law, but for the childrens safety as well. They are so terrified of being sued! They knew the intent of the law, and they knew that Carmean had been "behind this deal", cause Ruthie wanted to help her "contributor" out for the new NKS warehouse. Sometimes, it just feels as if our representatives are, in essence, being "whored" out.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 09:55 pm
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question in the local newspapers was , would the voters care and replace those council members that placed the play on words over the safety of their children and grandchildren.

great question ..i think they would place commercial interests and other issues over safety for the children.

if we have  an ordinance that says, 500 feet from a school for gas pumps, then, thats easy to understand.

so, why did they vote to overllok the ordinance in milford? was it fair

 

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 Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 01:12 am
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Rogers will get it - he's the least threatening - you know - raise your right hand - have the rubber stamp in the left!

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 Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 07:34 pm
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thats ronnie rogers the second. he would make a fine candidate as would several of the others.

lets see, one works for a realtor and builder, another has ties to city government,

:cool::cool::cool::cool:

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 Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 04:30 pm
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Guess we know who still holds the reins

Richard D Carmean recently retired City Manager stepped to the podium during the hearing. While he acknowledged traffic concerns he stated "Everything is planned around that overpass" referring to the states plan to "eventually" construct an overpass at New Wharf Road.

Everyone in Milford knew the former city manager would "eventually" retire but I don't think many counted on him sticking around so long. I'm even willing to bet more than a few probably wished he hadn't.

You don't base decisions like this (especially in light of the serious safety issues being raised) on eventual, possible, potential, or hopeful plans that may or maynot happen to resolve the issues.

Here are my concerns about this breech of trust by some City of Milford officials present and past once again.

1) Mr. Richard D. Carmean did not say  one word about the fuel storage tanks or gas pumps within 500 feet of  the school. This despite the fact it is against The City of Milford's own laws, and  even though it had already been adressed by Concilman Spillane, and Councilman Workman, who expressed their opposition and concern.

2) Everything is planned around that overpass that the state is going to "eventually" build.   If the overpass  never gets built we are stuck with a plaza that is  a major safety hazard to the community of Milford, especially the children and all employees of the Milford public school campus, and all users of RT 1.

3) Mr. Carmean's potential influence on board members who voted in favor of the project.

Last edited on Thu Sep 25th, 2008 04:40 pm by Bluesman

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 12:23 pm
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I hear Ronnie Rogers was going to sit in the vacent spot. Or did I just make that up? Hard to tell these days.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 01:01 am
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the funny part was the lawyers  arguing its a convenience store with gap pumps and that it was different from a gas station with a convenience  store.

now you see it, now you don't:cool:

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 11:33 pm
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If the city can make some money at it - who cares? That's their philosophy - to hell with safety for children. Milford needs to scrap the "Garden City of the Twin Counties" crap - they should try "Let's make a Deal"!- Any other suggestions?

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 08:35 pm
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really looking as to how they write it up in out two local papers/

hope they explain it in detail and as to  who voted to  have or not have the gas station

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 08:07 pm
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starsandstripes wrote: blues, maybe the gas station has 3 or 4 pumps  two sides equals eight total pumps. but, the one approved is for 32 pumps.

the real questions is..why is there a law against gas stations within 500 feet of a school?

is it there to resolve a danger, or, just there because the lawyers wanted to write a law:cool:

 

again, why would the council vote for this if it could cause a  conflict with the law??

just wondering as i thought the children of milford were important enough to ensure their safety

Logically I think we would be safe to assume that the law was put in place to prevent a potential catastrophe, should an accident happen be it a fire or explosion.  Better to err on the side of safety I think we are all in agreement with that.

The more I learn about this city's government the more I have to wonder what the hell these people are thinking when they make these decisions.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 05:54 pm
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blues, maybe the gas station has 3 or 4 pumps  two sides equals eight total pumps. but, the one approved is for 32 pumps.

the real questions is..why is there a law against gas stations within 500 feet of a school?

is it there to resolve a danger, or, just there because the lawyers wanted to write a law:cool:

 

again, why would the council vote for this if it could cause a  conflict with the law??

just wondering as i thought the children of milford were important enough to ensure their safety

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 04:39 pm
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Red,

I don't doubt there is a code, it just seems that it like many others, gets selectively used or in this case not used.

Last edited on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 04:40 pm by Bluesman

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 04:03 pm
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Bluesman,  Don't know why council approved the service station that you are speaking of.

Looking up the city code on thier website does state no service station within 500 feet of a school.  Must have been put thier for a reason.

 

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 02:34 pm
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S and S  what about the gas station on BR 1, across from  Milford Diner that abutts the school property ? They have gas pumps and sell and repair cars there.  

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 03:07 am
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question of the day..

why is it that the safety of our children ,  having a school within 500 feet  of a gasoline  pump not  of major importance to the city council??

why would commercial interest be approved against the possible  potential  concerns of safety??

i am missing something here as i find it beyound understanding.

they could  approve the commercial site for any kind of commercial business, but, why does it have to be one that has the potential to cause problems??

32 pumps of gas !!!

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 Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 03:02 am
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the city council voted to approve a conveninece store with 32 gas pumps that has the property within 500 feet of a city school/

the law would not allow a gasoline station with a convenience store , but, you can have a conveninece store with 32 pumps.

reason?? a gasoline station does repairs and such..a convenince store with 32 pumps only sells gas/

now you see and now you don't:cool:

 

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starsandstripes wrote: i would not join any group that  would have me as a member'Hey, it's Groucho Marx come back from the dead! ;)

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i would not join any group that  would have me as a member'

therfore, i decline, if elected will not serve, if nominated, will do??forgot the message

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 Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 11:24 pm
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I know........................... but we'd give a hell of a run for their money. :D

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 Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 08:44 pm
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I might be electable, but I would certainly not be the pick of the other councilmembers. Come to think of it, I think that might go for the rest of you loudmouths too ;).

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 Posted: Sun Sep 14th, 2008 04:29 pm
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wish I was annexed with the city in these situations, I would do it in a heartbeat.

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 Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 07:40 pm
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anyone up to being  the new council person??

or, have they all ready picked the person behind closed doors?

do we see this in public , or, how??

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 Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 05:07 am
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Well the fields may be getting paved over, but apparently there is still plenty of livestock.

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A sheep in wolves clothing is still a sheep. (BAAAAHHHH)

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 Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 02:46 am
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A pig in lipstick is still a pig - I'll agree to that. But really scares me is a sheep in wolves clothing - now that's scary!:shock:

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OS - Don't worry about it! I've been called a lot worse.

Oinky Oinky

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Bud Of KTC wrote:   You must be at least 5'4", and you can not have been born in Mongolia. You must clean the feet of all council members daily for 20 nights. You must sacrifice a spring chicken to the Gods of Target and Lowes and you must dance the night away to bad 90's hip-hop at Park Place on a full moon.

   Then and only then are you worthy for this apppointment.

This is true!  I read it in the City Charter.
 
Bud, you are SO wrong! The charter says you have to sacrifice a pig in lipstick! (Do not, do not take this to mean I am calling you a pig.)

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 Posted: Thu Sep 11th, 2008 06:57 pm
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now you tell me. i may not qualify on all accounts.

do they make exceptions if i am a builder//

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milfordian wrote:

     You must be at least 5'4", and you can not have been born in Mongolia. You must clean the feet of all council members daily for 20 nights. You must sacrifice a spring chicken to the Gods of Target and Lowes and you must dance the night away to bad 90's hip-hop at Park Place on a full moon.

   Then and only then are you worthy for this apppointment.

This is true!  I read it in the City Charter.

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starsandstripes wrote: at mondays meeting a person who was on the planning board stepped up to the plate and stated, according to the newspaper, he would run for the open seat , second ward.

great idea , i hope they appoint him..

Tell me, was this person one of the developers on the planning board or a big land owner hoping to sell land to a developer?

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starsandstripes wrote: wonder what the requirment is to be appointed.

     You must be at least 5'4", and you can not have been born in Mongolia. You must clean the feet of all council members daily for 20 nights. You must sacrifice a spring chicken to the Gods of Target and Lowes and you must dance the night away to bad 90's hip-hop at Park Place on a full moon.

   Then and only then are you worthy for this apppointment.

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at mondays meeting a person who was on the planning board stepped up to the plate and stated, according to the newspaper, he would run for the open seat , second ward.

great idea , i hope they appoint him..

along that point.. why would the council not talk about the changes on the planning board when the question was pointed out??

how did they pick and choose?

experience??

freindship??

knowledge? years of experience??

wonder what the requirment is to be appointed.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 10:52 pm
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you want a soup kitchen in milford?

is that why you want to volunteer?

 

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I'll volunteer, it's about time we got a decent brothel in Milford.

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the second ward has an opening for council person ..they need volunteers to place their hats in the ring.

of course four present members pick the choice, but, it will give exposure and perhaps the candidates could tell the voters where they stand on isssues..

next april will be an election for all wards. one seat in each ward up for grabs.

anyone want lower electric charges?

anyone want to look at the high water and disposal charges??

anyone interested in not raising taxes??

anyone interested in the amount of dollars the city gives to non profit groups??

anyone interested in following the law with four votes yea or nay , rather than improper three votes to decide??

anyone concerned about 16 houses to the acre in milford, all over town??

just some issues i can think of ?you can add to the list:cool:

 


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