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Posted: Fri Nov 21st, 2008 01:29 am |
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isn't it better to be safe than sorry???
the big deal is compliance with city ordinances.
if the city council will not or cannot enforce its own code than we will have a disfunctional council
thats why its so important for the council to uphold the law as its written not as builders would like it to be.
so far they seem to be doing fine and the fact that the gas station was moved shows that our council people persuaded the builder to do the right thing even if the danger may be remote.
so its good job milford city council for looking out for our children
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Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 11:50 pm |
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It surely looks like much ado over a small hazard, the pumps would be approximately 1400 ft from the nearest building west of the football field all the rest of the area is wide open and probably not hard to evacuate in an emergency. The pumps at the service station across from the diner are a mere 740 feet from the NW corner of the high school building a far greater possible hazard.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20th, 2008 09:54 pm |
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i would like to thank the difficult work of council person michael spillane for spear heading the effort to protect the children of mllford.
i see that the gas station and convenience store is being moved to the reverse side .
thanks to the builder too. they, listened to the outcry and realized it was important to have all obey the law and not to mince words when it comes to milford children.
the power of one? not sure what it means, but it sure worked for our good.
great work to third ward council person spillane.
the builder listened and did the right thing
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 10:23 am |
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Read that a couple of council members cared. 
Shame on the others.
Election time is near.
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 05:38 am |
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| Did council consider that with a convenience store,( and gas pumps), and the POTENTIAL Grotto Pizza, that foot traffic would increase significantly from the school towards the INCOME GENERATING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LOCATED OFF RT. 1? Why didn't council place conditions such as sidewalks, pedestrian crossing, etc.? At least this would have given an IMPRESSION that they cared about the CHILDREN - oh, I forgot - silly me- it's about generating income for the city and not having the guts to stand up for safety - I'm sorry - I forgot I was talking about Milford City government!
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 05:31 am |
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| Techguy - The unfortunate aspect is that it (the drainage pipe) could have been taken care of if a certain citizen, who was educated at the high school, along with his wife and children, would stop being paranoid long enough to step up and help out not only the school district, but the community as well.
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 05:26 am |
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When is it scheduled? That's a great idea Milfordian - that's not the kind of pub the city wants.
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 03:02 pm |
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| Speaking up at the meeting is OK, if they let you speak. How about a gool ol' demonstration? Get some signs, call some of the local media. You never know, if you get some attention to the situation it coulkd change some minds.
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milfordian
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 03:00 pm |
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| Big Red's posts read an awful lot like starsandstripes. I'm just sayin....
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 01:43 pm |
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| I'm game for going to the meeting if anyone else.
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 11:39 am |
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according to the agenda looks like the council is going to discuss the issue again think its under twin farms on the agenda.
twin farms is the corporation name for Royal Farms. people are playing with words. gas pumps or gasoline service station?
we need to show up at the council meeting and call our elected officials to voice our opinions.
also they are elected officials and we can change them in April, 09.
most of us will forget about this in a few days.
by not getting involved with local politics we will end up like Washington and the situation we have now.
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 02:50 am |
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This decison from the Council is timerous and dreadful. There is nothing more important than the lilves of our children. True leaders would have had the courage to change the zoning or bylaws to protect Milfords young. The current coucnil members should be held liable for the deaths and/or injuries incurred of the first 8 children due to their misfeasance.
Council, do the right thing, re-visit this, stop this project and be true guardians of your constituents.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 11:50 pm |
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| You are very right there when it comes to the former city manager and his "crew". As to the board having input on the issue did the district have input when it was forced to add a 60ft easement to its plans just to get approval for the new academy? Now the academy is looking at delays because a city owned storm water drain is blocked off the district property, but city has no money to repair it. This same council told the district that its plans to go green with the new schools would not earn the same credits with the city as the district could earn with Delmarva Power. Yet, the folks at DOE and state require all new schools to be built where there is sewer and water hookups so where does the district turn?
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 10:55 pm |
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| Don't think it would have made much difference. Once the "ghost" of council meetings past stood up (Carmean) it was over. Between him and his association with the gov and her association to the catbird from NKS- it was over.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 05:30 pm |
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BigRed wrote: understand there was a representive from the school board at the last council meeting but didn't have much to say. There was a school board meeting that night and Mr. Smith could not go. Think that speaking before council that night would have been reason enough to have missed the school board meeting.
I agree...... I figure it's his last year and he's not going to rock the boat.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 02:57 pm |
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understand there was a representive from the school board at the last council meeting but didn't have much to say. There was a school board meeting that night and Mr. Smith could not go. Think that speaking before council that night would have been reason enough to have missed the school board meeting.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 12:15 pm |
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Why hasn't the superintendent or the school board raised issue with the decision?
They are the representatives for the property which abutts the proposed and now approved gas/service station, and have to answer to the owners of the property, us.
Somewhere along the line it would appear that the Milford city government and the Milford School District have somehow become enmeshed, when it comes to issues like this one.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 03:05 am |
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| Gas station / service station? It doesn't matter - it's a safety issue. City Council needs to get the guts like Kent County and vote no! Don't worry about being sued - if it is determined that the decision is based on public safety - no court will over turn it ( at least those courts with common sense)
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 07:13 pm |
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why does the city council have to obey the law, in every instance??
why can't they just decide on every issue as it comes up?
AFTER ALL, SOMETIMES ITS BIG BUILDERS INVOLVED IN A DECSION AND WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THEIR IMPORTANCE TO THE TAX BASE.
whats a few violations in the scheme of things. can't make an omlett without breaking a few shells, or, something like that
integrity? some in milford can't even spell it let alone comprehend it
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 05:32 pm |
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can look on the internet for service stations explosions. Won't find many explosions around schools because cities have codes that don't allow chemicals/ gasses to be close to schools.
question is gas pumps sames as a service station?
city codes/ law of the land must be followed and enforce. do you agree?
if codes/laws are wrong or out of date than we must change them but until than we have to enforce the codes on the books. I don't agree with all the laws and codes but I follow them out of respect.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 04:34 pm |
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| I agree, I am just curious whether there have been any incidents.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 03:57 pm |
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| Typically, everything that is written in a contract or in laws are results of issues that, in the past, had not been encountered. If this wasn't a concern, why was this written in the law? It must have happened somewhere or else it wouldn't be on the books. When was the last time a major hurricane hit New Orleans prior to Katrina? When was the last time the stock market crashed? My point is an ounce of prevention is far better than a pound of cure.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 03:02 pm |
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Just out of curiousity, when was the last time gas pumps exploded? How big was the explosion? Would it have effected the school grounds if it had been here?
I'm just curious, I'm not trying to start an arguement.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 11:55 am |
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| have you called your city representives? Are they doing anything?
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 04:18 am |
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| They were calculating the distance to the actual school building itself. City council didn't "think", and I use that loosely, about the field hockey and football fields - what a mess that will be if something happens on a Friday night at those gas pumps when a high school football game is being played. I'm glad it won't be on my conscience! Gutless and clueless - that's our City Council
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:52 am |
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i don't know. but, i do know that it is a problem to have a pump and/or a gas staion within 500 feet of a school in milford.
how do i kow??well, the city has an ordinance to cover this subject.
of course the city pretends its okay because they are allowing a builder to have
a convenience store with 32 pumps.
understand this, you can't have a gas station with a convenience store, but its okay to have a convenience store with 32 pumps
see, its a play on words.
now you see, now you don't
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:16 am |
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Do you need gas pumps to be a gasoline service station?
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