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Lottery Winner wrote: The DSEA and NEA are huge contributors to Democrats in this State. It's a union thing and the people be d**ned.
A teacher with the same educational degrees and work experience can earn roughly 17% higher pay in a job other than teaching. If parent's don't think that teachers in the public education system are a bargain then look into a private school which will cost roughly twice the per student cost of a public school in Delaware.
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| Most people wanted "CHANGE"....we all got it and are suffering!
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Bye Bye Birdy wrote: Have you voted before in Delaware AB? This state is bought and paid for by the crowd up in Wilmington and New Castle with political funding from out of state contributors. The last and only thing that was done here in Kent County is when people voted out members of Levy Court for not curbing "land developers." We have to pick and chose our "fights" with Democrats and be patient. They always put in another one who won't touch problems we can all see is wrong with this state. Once in high office, being re-elected is a snap in DE if they keep "hands off" politically sensitive issues.
Thanks alot now the "land developers" just crossed the Misipillion River and are doing the same thing in Sussex County, and it's promoted by every level of government in Kent County.Last edited on Wed Mar 25th, 2009 11:07 am by wrldlanguages
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| Have you voted before in Delaware AB? This state is bought and paid for by the crowd up in Wilmington and New Castle with political funding from out of state contributors. The last and only thing that was done here in Kent County is when people voted out members of Levy Court for not curbing "land developers." We have to pick and chose our "fights" with Democrats and be patient. They always put in another one who won't touch problems we can all see is wrong with this state. Once in high office, being re-elected is a snap in DE if they keep "hands off" politically sensitive issues.
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The Blame Game Who are we going to cut next
how about the guys that got us into this mess
We can just cut them when we go to the voting booth
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At the same time that the teachers are taking pay cuts, why is Bob Smith taking a job as consultant to the new superintendent for a mere $145k a year. Two for the price of 2.
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| The DSEA and NEA are huge contributors to Democrats in this State. It's a union thing and the people be d**ned.
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| State employees take a cut in their pay? Absolutely not until all employees of all governmental agencies (State, Municipal, County, and Towns) take a cut in pay. State of Delaware members of the Legislature would be looking around for fraud waste and abuse before accepting a cut in their pay. So too would the Counties and then perhaps they'd see the rationale for combining some school districts to save money. How that escapes being noticed by the state is puzzling.
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wrldlanguages wrote: WISEMAN wrote: You can always go to the soup kitchen and collect foodstamps if you must, I don't know if the government still gives out the free cheese or not you might want to check on that.
Haven't you destroyed enough peoples lives already
Milfordian WISEMAN is Dawn....
Why do I feel dirty all of a sudden?
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wrldlanguages wrote: WISEMAN wrote: You can always go to the soup kitchen and collect foodstamps if you must, I don't know if the government still gives out the free cheese or not you might want to check on that.
Haven't you destroyed enough peoples lives already
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WISEMAN wrote: You can always go to the soup kitchen and collect foodstamps if you must, I don't know if the government still gives out the free cheese or not you might want to check on that.
Haven't you destroyed enough peoples lives already
Milfordian WISEMAN is Dawn....
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 01:47 pm |
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WISEMAN wrote: You can always go to the soup kitchen and collect foodstamps if you must, I don't know if the government still gives out the free cheese or not you might want to check on that.
That's exactly what the government is trying to do. Make more people dependant on them for basic needs. When will people start to stand up against this socialistic behavior? http://www.lp.org
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| You can always go to the soup kitchen and collect foodstamps if you must, I don't know if the government still gives out the free cheese or not you might want to check on that.
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Football Fan wrote: Excuse me, but I retired after 33 years of service as a state employee. I actually worked all those years and didn't have a whole lot of time for coffee because I had a job to do. My pension is not even close to $30,000 a year and I believe you have a lot of misinformation about the cost of the health insurance as well. How much money are you talking about in regards to health insurance that state retirees and current worker pay.
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| Excuse me, but I retired after 33 years of service as a state employee. I actually worked all those years and didn't have a whole lot of time for coffee because I had a job to do. My pension is not even close to $30,000 a year and I believe you have a lot of misinformation about the cost of the health insurance as well.
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There is too much Delaware government waste that can be disposed of before tapping into the pockets of teachers that deal with the kids all day, and grade papers until 1:oo AM. How about DELDOT employees that just ride in trucks all day, or stand around in groups of 5 or 6 to give encouragement to the one in the middle holding the shovel up in a still and vertical position? Or how about state employees (like school administrators) who drive back and forth to work in state owned cars. I have to drive my own car to my work vehicle. And cut down on the number of state cars, there are more than you need.
Or what about halting unneeded new road construction and fixing the potholes and bumps we already have? The money wasted at the Indian River Inlet would have gone a long way. The list of waste is long and amazing. CUT WASTE BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE!
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WISEMAN wrote: calabash wrote: I heard this afternoon that the Governor has proposed a 10% decrease in State employees pay. What's up with that?
should have been 30%
Not such a wiseman, hopefully you will never need to call on our services, maybe we decrease our service to you by 30%
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calabash wrote: I heard this afternoon that the Governor has proposed a 10% decrease in State employees pay. What's up with that?
should have been 30%
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| A very good read "Overtaxed." All my pants had double knee material to make them last longer in fact when new that was a selling point way back when. Off the topic, but what sacrifices have been made by US Congressmen lately? I've heard of none whatsoever. Do you think they fly home and back by commercial airlines? Not likely they do! Is their pay being cut - I don't think so. They do not share in the cost of the messes they make. They should all sacrifice one month without getting paid for all the time they waste and spend screwing off (best description of what they do). You are now cutting corners to survive a pay cut and higher costs. It may be a lesson that will carry you in later years and show your kids it can be taken away if the Government messes with the US economy unsupervised. These are not successful people as business owners or entrepaneurs - not one of them ever was! They are all "lawyers" posing as what they never were and living high off American tax collections. Good luck keeping them in the manner in which they have grown accustomed to living. I will even be throwing in a few extra bucks to that end.
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What I perceive as a major contributing factor is municipalities not charging the developers for the costs incurred for the infrastructure to the new approved developments; ie: sewer/water lines, electric service. There is also no cost to the developer to help offset the costs of the additional services required to meet the needs of 500 residents, let alone 2,000. A few that come to mind are fire service personnel/equipment, fire substation house south of the city, police manpower, school district buildings/personnel.
If the developers were to incure these costs, the taxpayer dollars could be used where they need to be, to help balance the state budget.
I might have to take 10% of my property taxes, my Milford electric bill, my vehicle registration, and license fees, now that I am possibly loosing 10% of my pay.
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Who got the state into this mess??? All state employees??? Absolutely not!! So....why should we have to pay for mismanagement of money???
With less income, state employees surely won't be able to help Delaware's struggling businesses.
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Hey Jack:
What about the University of Delaware. They are basically state employees that hide behind the UD logo. They drive state vehicles and receive a plethora of state money that goes directly to their salaries. Check into where all Delaware employees paychecks comes from and you will find a good chunk comes from the taxpayer of Delaware. They also get federal money which also comes from... you guessed it!... The taxpayer of Delaware. What's up with that. You can cut a professor's salary too! It also goes for Delaware State. All the previous being said, I know you won't cut UD because of too much political pull.
Another suggestion is give early retirement to state employees who are most likely slackers anyway. Get rid of them and also their position. You could do this with at least 30-50% of the state agencies and guess what?.........We'd never know they ever existed! You'll look better by reducing government waste.
Want some really good advice? Don't include the state teachers in the same pool with the other employees. You are going down on this one old man if you don't come to your senses. Teachers are the most valuable asset the state of Delaware has when it comes to return on the dollar. By the way, it's highly unlike you will return!
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overtaxed , maybe the financial committee of milford will stop taking money from the electric fund to cover their spending.
they took salaries from several workers and placed them into electric bills
then, they keep taking your approval of a bond issue years ago wihtout ever issuing the bond and increased your electic bill.
they collected about two million dollars for the new electric sub station, continue to take more money from you and all of us taxpayers and, yet, the money just collects dust.
it was never spent, used, and will probably go to the general fund to support our spending for anything the council wants.
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Jack I realize that you only played a small but very important part of the endless spending within our state gov in the past. Now that you are governor and would like to also go on a spending binge just like Ruthie, stop. We can not afford for this state to keep spending just like the federal gov. Now you want my family to take a 10% pay cut. Let me point out to you that my expenses have also gone through the roof and income was cut due to job loss and we have had to make drastic cuts to keep our household budget for going out of control. Instead of new pants, I've purchased patches for my son's pants as well as mine. How much more do you feel those of us that work keep supporting those that do not and pay for their mortgages and medical treatments just so they continue voting for you?. The tax base keeps getting smaller and those of us left are carrying a larger load and it is causing financial and emotional stress within the house. Please do not continue looking at us as an endless stream of revenue. We are tapped out. We are down to only necessary purchases and cannot dig any deeper into our pockets to fund your wish list. Any more cuts in pay or increases in taxes means that bills cannot be paid.
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delaware citizen wrote: By the Way.....not all school districts pay the same. If you work in Cape for example you earn much more than working in Milford.
By the Way.....teachers surely are NOT paid for all of the hours they put in on a daily basis. You can find some teachers still working at 5:00, 6:00, even 7:00 still at school AND these teachers still take work home and work on the weekends! So....while teachers may only work 9 months, many put in 12 hour days!
I'm sorry but you are incorrect a teacher in Milford earns about $200.00 more than a teacher at Cape Henlopen. Woodbridge School District is approximately $900.00 higher than Cape and $700.00 higher than Milford.
Example: Masters with 7 years teaching experience
Milford - Masters 7 years $48,803.
http://www.milfordschooldistrict.com/salary_schedule.cfm
Cape Henlopen - Masters 7 years $48,615.
http://cape.de.schoolwebpages.com/education/sctemp/254a0e44d431206bdff39324fa79ed1b/1237569780/2008_2009_Teachers_Combined.pdf
Then if you factor in the 2 teachers both residing in Milford you have to factor in travel expense of approximately $800.00 based on a school year for fuel alone. One tank of gas per week @ $30.00 x 24 weeks = $720.00
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Letter from the Governor to the State Employees:
A message from Governor Jack Markell…..
Working with you as your Governor over the past two months has been an honor.
All of the employees I have met – whether it’s the teachers educating our future leaders, the police and correctional officers keeping us safe, the DelDOT workers on duty all night to keep the roads clear or the staff in the agencies interacting with the public everyday – have inspired me with their dedication to building a better Delaware.
One of the toughest jobs a Governor has is preparing the state’s annual budget. This year, the staggering downturn in the national economy has hit Delaware especially hard, creating the historic economic and financial challenges facing the state and the tough times many Delaware families are going through.
After the most recent revenue forecast – a forecast that has been going down for months as the economy has sunk - we are left with a $750 million deficit for the coming fiscal year, and the shortfall could become more severe in the coming months. The trends are not in our favor.
The $750 million shortfall represents more than 20 percent of our budget and is among the largest, on a percentage basis, of any state in the nation. This $750 million shortfall is more than the cost of every dollar in state support for our teachers and more than the combined budgets of 14 state agencies, including the Department of Safety and Homeland Security. And the forces that led to that drop- economic insecurity, rising national and local unemployment, a soft financial market – mean that each month we move forward, that shortfall may grow.
The proposed solution to this historic challenge that I released today is a balanced plan, guided by three overriding principles. First, our decisions must be fiscally responsible, meaning that our cuts and revenue enhancements must be sustainable. Second, the decisions must be compassionate, meaning we must keep our government’s core commitments. Finally, the proposal must spread our sacrifices so that no one citizen or group bears a disproportionate burden of this challenge.
There are no easy choices when it comes to addressing this historic challenge. Unfortunately, when we made these proposals, we had to turn to what is, by far, the largest percentage of Delaware’s expenses. Almost 46% of our costs go to pay our state employees for the hard work all of you do.
But unlike other states where employees are being laid off, my current plan will not cost any state employee their job. We heard over and over from state employees that they would prefer a shared sacrifice, where everyone gave up something, instead of some giving up everything.
To that end, we are proposing an 8% across the board cut in the salaries of all state employees, which will serve to contribute $91 million in fiscal year 2010 toward the $750 million shortfall. This salary cut, if approved by the General Assembly, would be effective July 1, 2009. I deeply regret that this will impose a very significant burden, as many of you are already struggling to make ends meet. To that end, my proposal would be for this cut to be temporary, and to work with the General Assembly to restore salary levels when the economy improves and state revenues rise.
Importantly, to achieve the same savings through layoffs would result in 1,500 state employees losing their jobs. Furloughs, which I considered early on, do not save what is required. Casual seasonal employees, contractors, and teachers in school districts will all take salary cuts that approximate the cuts being taken by full-time state employees.
In addition to the salary reduction, the proposal would trade three of the current fixed holidays per year for state employees for three floating ones that each employee could choose for themselves. That would allow us to cut back on overtime costs and save an additional $1 million. We would also, for the time being, freeze career ladder adjustments for an additional $1.2 million in savings.
The state also pays almost $400 million per year for employee health care, and the health care fund currently has a $60 million deficit as well. And while full-time state employees will continue to receive generous medical benefits, we will support legislation to eliminate the “double state share” for married state employees. In addition, we expect that employees and retirees will pay for a larger portion of their health care than they do today – a portion that will be closer to but still significantly less than most Delawareans pay for their healthcare.
A decision on changes to the state employee health care plan is scheduled to be made by the end of March, by the State Employee Benefits Committee, with open enrollment later this spring and the new premiums taking effect July 1.
This combination of salary and benefit reductions means the average state employee would be taking home approximately 10% less after July 1 than you do today. It is important to recognize that this sacrifice, while significant, only represents a portion of the solution to our $750 million problem. I am also proposing that we move forward with very difficult decisions to raise revenues and introduce a sports lottery to Delaware. I am hopeful that you will support me in those efforts.
I regret how tough this sacrifice will be for you. This budget proposal makes tough choices today so Delaware can grow tomorrow. Together, we will get through these difficult times.
Sincerely,
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delaware citizen wrote: By the Way.....not all school districts pay the same. If you work in Cape for example you earn much more than working in Milford.
By the Way.....teachers surely are NOT paid for all of the hours they put in on a daily basis. You can find some teachers still working at 5:00, 6:00, even 7:00 still at school AND these teachers still take work home and work on the weekends! So....while teachers may only work 9 months, many put in 12 hour days!
A foreign language teacher could work as a court interperter and earn $65,000.00 with 5 years experience and the teachers salary with the same 5 years earns $ 46,901.00
" Then why aren't they working as court interpreters? Obviously, they like being teachers, so they shouldn't complain about the pay. BTW, 47k a year (9 months work) is a fantastic income."
There does need to be parity between all the districts involving pay. But a court interpreter works all year and does not has the summer off to further their education on the states dime and then get a raise that is not merited.
Who says that a teaching job has to be high paying?
The state has to get rid of local money. That is a corrupt slush fund. Look at the Middle school, Where did they find the money for the sign and the landscaping. Congress and the country are screaming about AIG and Bob came up with money to waste on that. It is a school not the entrance to a country club.
He is getting rid of his money so the local fund will be low for the new guy coming in.
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fire911guy wrote: Well, it's only a recommendation from Markell at this point, it has to be passed, so we shall sit and wait to see what happens.
I disagree, we shouldn't "sit and wait" we should be calling our Reps and telling them what we think about it.
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Well, it's only a recommendation from Markell at this point, it has to be passed, so we shall sit and wait to see what happens. While I am a county employee that is facing pretty much the same, I feel that the state and all the counties can find other means for meeting the alleged shortfalls, like tapping into all these surpluses and grant and aid funds that they have. We shall see...
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A financial advisor was on a local radio talk show yesterday and stated that Delaware takes in plenty of tax money to run the state, the problem is that too much is wasted.
So, common workers are now told that they will be cut 10% because the big boys waste so much??? Smells fishy to me. And by the way, wasn't our current governor - the one that came up with this brainy idea, wasn't he actually the state treasurer for the last 8 years??? The smell thickens.
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| My beef about the ridiculous pensions was aimed more at the state employees like Bubba, the concrete inspector, who gets five breaks a day and sits in a truck drinking coffee the rest of the day for $50,000 a year. Teachers are a different story entirely.
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By the Way.....not all school districts pay the same. If you work in Cape for example you earn much more than working in Milford.
By the Way.....teachers surely are NOT paid for all of the hours they put in on a daily basis. You can find some teachers still working at 5:00, 6:00, even 7:00 still at school AND these teachers still take work home and work on the weekends! So....while teachers may only work 9 months, many put in 12 hour days!
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A foreign language teacher could work as a court interperter and earn $65,000.00 with 5 years experience and the teachers salary with the same 5 years earns $ 46,901.00
Then why aren't they working as court interpreters? Obviously, they like being teachers, so they shouldn't complain about the pay. BTW, 47k a year (9 months work) is a fantastic income.
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| believe it or not teachers in Delaware earn lower salaries with the same qualifications Bachelors or Masters degree than if they were in the similar line of work but not teaching in a public school. A foreign language teacher could work as a court interperter and earn $65,000.00 with 5 years experience and the teachers salary with the same 5 years earns $ 46,901.00
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| How about they stop these ridiculous pensions for state employees--$30,000 a year for life and they only pay $14 dollars a month for unlimited health insurance!! No wonder the jobs are given to members of the good ol' boys club only! What a sweet deal! I only need a HS diploma and a buddy who works for the state and I can retire on the taxpayer's dime at age 59!
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| Go to http://www.ideas.delaware.gov to give them your ideas fro cutting costs.
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| I would agree if teachers got paid overtime to sit in a truck.
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It should include teacher. They are not sacred cows.
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| This includes teachers. this should be political suicide.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2009 10:31 pm |
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| I heard this afternoon that the Governor has proposed a 10% decrease in State employees pay. What's up with that?
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