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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 01:24 am |
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| yeah my niece told me about that but it did not happen at school. not much they can do about that other than suspend or throw out the kids I guess if it was violent enough to cause problems in school. did anything actually happen in the school?
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SeafordParent wrote: well SOS more than half your staff and your principal dont stick to the rules so it is hard to actually follow them. if they actually enforced things and stopped caring what people thought maybe everything would be better. i though a wise person once said you cant please all ofthe people all of the time. i wouldnt care how much parents whined about how hard teachers were on their kids. you always have the law and state behind you. let them argue with that! most of them dont follow the law themselves so what good are they!
I am not disagreeing with you. I wonder why the gang related figtht after school last week never made it in the news. The police ran out of handcuffs. Sounds like a newsmaker to me. Things have slipped since Dan Cannon retired. He was a great watch dog. Last edited on Mon Oct 26th, 2009 02:25 am by SOS
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Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 07:21 pm |
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| well SOS more than half your staff and your principal dont stick to the rules so it is hard to actually follow them. if they actually enforced things and stopped caring what people thought maybe everything would be better. i though a wise person once said you cant please all ofthe people all of the time. i wouldnt care how much parents whined about how hard teachers were on their kids. you always have the law and state behind you. let them argue with that! most of them dont follow the law themselves so what good are they!
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SeafordParent wrote: ok so my niece comes home and tells me she got a detention for being late. they were doing these sudden random sweeps. she said it was only her second time being late to a class all year and she was barely late. i can not be sympathetic but is it not a little overboard to be sweeping for lates when teachers should be doing the actual punishing? she said it is unfair only that so many teachers bother to give detentions for late and some are lenient after the first or second one to their class. i know you want to cut down on lates but why not ask teachers who are late more often and punish those kids? not the ones when it is random
i personally think that something like this should have been done since day one not all of a sudden. too late to set an example now
The Puppet Master and the Puppets may have chosen to tighten the security of the halls with the recent racial tension and incidents in the district. In their defense, they are trying to keep everyone safe and probably feel that this is better than calling for Code Yellows. I would advise your niece to keep her rules and regulations handy. If the policy or rules and regulations are not listed - those are grounds for her defense. Rules and procedures change at the high school like the weather. It is difficuilt for students and staff to always remember which rule is in place. Sort of like the definition of mass confusion.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 02:09 am |
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ok so my niece comes home and tells me she got a detention for being late. they were doing these sudden random sweeps. she said it was only her second time being late to a class all year and she was barely late. i can not be sympathetic but is it not a little overboard to be sweeping for lates when teachers should be doing the actual punishing? she said it is unfair only that so many teachers bother to give detentions for late and some are lenient after the first or second one to their class. i know you want to cut down on lates but why not ask teachers who are late more often and punish those kids? not the ones when it is random
i personally think that something like this should have been done since day one not all of a sudden. too late to set an example now
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| You can hardly see the lines in several areas of the parking lot. Maybe they used water base paint. Do you park in the parkingt lot or on the street. There have been several complaints.
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SOS wrote: Students are now receiving citations for the student parking lot. The citations should stop until the parking lot has been relined and issued numbers that you can read. It is crazy to hold the students responsible when the parking lots are in a shambles. If you cannot see the lines or the number on the parking places- how can that be the student's fault. School administrators need to take care of business before they issue consequences.
Do you actually still work at the high school??? The lines have been painted now for more than a month!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11th, 2009 09:18 pm |
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| Students are now receiving citations for the student parking lot. The citations should stop until the parking lot has been relined and issued numbers that you can read. It is crazy to hold the students responsible when the parking lots are in a shambles. If you cannot see the lines or the number on the parking places- how can that be the student's fault. School administrators need to take care of business before they issue consequences. Last edited on Sun Oct 11th, 2009 09:20 pm by SOS
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Posted: Sat Sep 26th, 2009 07:35 pm |
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even7 wrote: SOS wrote: even7 wrote: I have seen him in the hallways at the High School.
I was looking for more indepth involvement. Anyone can enter our school and walk around. Involved and replacing an individual would be sitting in on meetings, classroom observations, visiting the school office, and being a part of the various leadership committees. It alarms me that many of you view walking through the hallways enough especially since he is covering a position. You are quick to "assume" that I view "walking through the hallways enough". I responded to the comment that he was not seen. I did not state anything but the obvious.
You are correct. I apologize. My concern is that we are not doing enough. The first thing all educators are taught in their classroom management class is that group punishment does not work. Parents who attend parenting classes are also encouraged that group discipline does not work in the home. So the obvious is that group punishment does not work for the entire staff. If the administrators have a problem with an individual teacher or staff member, address it; but that is not done in our school.
Let's start with teachers at their doors between classes. It is not a teacher's job to control the hallways. It is their job to control the classrooms. Teachers are given several directives from administrators, but they are never followed with the "how-to's". The teachers have approximately 48 minutes per class. These are the things they are suppose to do in 48 minutes.
- Stand at the door
- Enter the room and have standards, objectives, and essential question(s) on their board and a warm-up activity ready to go.
- For teachers with multiple lesson plans, these are written on the board every other hour because teachers have been written up for too much on their boards.
- Attendance has to be taken. Answer the telephone because it is usually the attendance office asking an attendance question or an administrator wanting you to send a student down to the office.
- Listen for one of many announcements.
- Sign passes because you really cannot deny someone to go to the restroom.
- Look at the many lists to see which students have left for Del Tech, ROTC, club meetings or out for OSS.
- Quickly scan the class for dress code and electronic violations.
- Interruptiions at your door and visitors allowed to come to your rooms during class time.
- Teach
- Have an appropriate closing in place.
- Meet the individual needs of their students and give some helpful guidance to individual students before their next class.
- Some teachers have to change classrooms, some have to prepare labs and technology
Do the math. If you have to stand in the hallway for 5 minutes, you have to take the objectives, standards, objectives, and essential questions out of class time. When the scheduled was changed, the school lost their extra labor for duties. A plan should be put into place. Administrators should be positioned at the school hot spots during bell change. The resource officer needs to be visible during the hall changes. Just like in the morning, the administrators are usuallty in the lobby of the school talking. They should be positioned in certain areas of the school and the resource officer should be in the lobby in the morning. Teachers should not be in charge of the hallways when they are getting ready for their classes. Some teachers arrive as early as 6 a.m. each morning to just get ready. The adminstrators do not know the list of teachers who arrive early because they are not in the school that early. Sometimes they arrive at 7 a.m. but usually around 7:15 a.m. Teachers who want to do early morning hall duty, should be allowed to leave with the bell at the end of the day if they want to. Cafe duty staff are the only ones given this opportunity. Maybe the Union should help out on this one.
I have said this before, administrtors demanding this type of performance should model it for the teachers. This does not happen because they cannot do it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2009 02:57 am |
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SOS wrote: even7 wrote: I have seen him in the hallways at the High School.
I was looking for more indepth involvement. Anyone can enter our school and walk around. Involved and replacing an individual would be sitting in on meetings, classroom observations, visiting the school office, and being a part of the various leadership committees. It alarms me that many of you view walking through the hallways enough especially since he is covering a position. You are quick to "assume" that I view "walking through the hallways enough". I responded to the comment that he was not seen. I did not state anything but the obvious.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 09:34 pm |
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SOS wrote: even7 wrote: I have seen him in the hallways at the High School.
I was looking for more indepth involvement. Anyone can enter our school and walk around. Involved and replacing an individual would be sitting in on meetings, classroom observations, visiting the school office, and being a part of the various leadership committees. It alarms me that many of you view walking through the hallways enough especially since he is covering a position.
well, hate to break it to you but he actually came into mine last week and he was in another class the other day. once again, why do you we are getting announcements and emails from our boss lately  Things we dont usually get.
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SeafordCO2008 wrote: SOS wrote: We were told that Dr. K would be more visible since he was taking responsiblity of the high school and middle school. We have not seen him at the high school since the very beginning of the school year.
ok obviously you are oblivious because he certainly has been in our school quite frequently since day 1. did you not hear our boss tell us to be in the hallway the other day? who do you think yelled at him after walking through the school the morning the day before! Excuse me, I shoud have said seeing him doing something.
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even7 wrote: I have seen him in the hallways at the High School.
I was looking for more indepth involvement. Anyone can enter our school and walk around. Involved and replacing an individual would be sitting in on meetings, classroom observations, visiting the school office, and being a part of the various leadership committees. It alarms me that many of you view walking through the hallways enough especially since he is covering a position.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 12:38 am |
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I have seen him in the hallways at the High School.
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 09:42 pm |
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SOS wrote: We were told that Dr. K would be more visible since he was taking responsiblity of the high school and middle school. We have not seen him at the high school since the very beginning of the school year.
ok obviously you are oblivious because he certainly has been in our school quite frequently since day 1. did you not hear our boss tell us to be in the hallway the other day? who do you think yelled at him after walking through the school the morning the day before!
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 08:24 pm |
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| SOS why do you always attack the middle management of the school organization? K chose all of the individuals that you speak of. He monitors all of their work. Why don't you hold him responsible for all of your charges?
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 08:18 pm |
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| We were told that Dr. K would be more visible since he was taking responsiblity of the high school and middle school. We have not seen him at the high school since the very beginning of the school year. It is obvious to everyone that he is not needed at the middle school. The middle school has a very strong administrative team and a faculty and staff that are well-trained and have a good understanding of what they are doing each day. The middle school is a collaborative environment that thrives on direct and honest communication. If something goes wrong in that school, no one blames anyone or passes the buck to across the street - they focus on how to correct the problem. The assistant principals at the middle school are promotable so maybe the middle school principal should work with the HS team. The problem at the high school is that we have an administrative team who does not know how to get to home base. They have been on thrid base way too long. What gives? Someone who has not earned it, gets a bigger office and distances himself more from his staff than ever before. Crazier things have happened, follow suit by promoting unsuccessful people in the district. That has been our track record.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14th, 2009 01:34 am |
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"Will teachers write the referrals?"
um no. that is why they are so low now. my niece cannot understand why teachers take the crap they get in class. so many kids misbehave and the teachers dont write anyone up. it is most likely they know nothing will be done. if they put more kids out of school, they lose their jobs or at least one of them would lose their job, right?
i am sure youve got a few teachers ignoring cell phones in class as they always have.
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whocaresanymore wrote: SOS wrote: New policies at the high school this year iare:
- If the teacher sees a CELL, office referral
- If the students refuse to take off hats, hoods, headphones, or coats, office referral
I hope everyone is on board with supporting these new policies. In the past, the teachers did not have the support of the administration once a student went to the office for dress code issues. CELLS were usually supported.
SHS will not be able to brag about a decrease in office referrals, but the positive will be that we are united as a school to enforce these basic rules and that as an entire staff (including administration) respects our rules and policies.
Fingers crossed for the best results!
Ummm, as far as I know.. #1 and #2 ARE NOT and HAVE NOT been anything new in the past few years... It just seems new because MAYBE, just MAYBE they might follow through with something this time...
The difference is that we were told to write a referral. In the past, they were just sent to the office for approval or disapproval of the garments. Also, CELL phones were collected and then turned into the office. Many times, the administrative team was confused about how to enforce the dress code. For example: What is a coat, what is a sweatshirt, etc. A few differences. The twobig questions "What will become of the office referrals?" and "Will teachers write the referrals?"
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Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 08:29 pm |
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SOS wrote: New policies at the high school this year iare:
- If the teacher sees a CELL, office referral
- If the students refuse to take off hats, hoods, headphones, or coats, office referral
I hope everyone is on board with supporting these new policies. In the past, the teachers did not have the support of the administration once a student went to the office for dress code issues. CELLS were usually supported.
SHS will not be able to brag about a decrease in office referrals, but the positive will be that we are united as a school to enforce these basic rules and that as an entire staff (including administration) respects our rules and policies.
Fingers crossed for the best results!
Ummm, as far as I know.. #1 and #2 ARE NOT and HAVE NOT been anything new in the past few years... It just seems new because MAYBE, just MAYBE they might follow through with something this time...
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what are you worried about? how many of your colleagues do squat or the bare minimum and still have their jobs? i can name few
just do less or whatever is your current normal and quit worrying about the extra work. something tells me you will still have a job. if they really cared to put pressure on all of you about extra work and less time you would know by now. i would think that you would have a pretty good lawsuit if they did. that seems to be a common action here lately!
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This year all state employees took a pay cut which included teachers. A pay cut and now our work hours are increasing. Because of the pay cut, some teachers are having to try to make money by other means. A couple of teachers are working evenings in retail to make up the difference.
Due to a new curriculum plan at the high school, lots of extra evening hours plus the beginning of extra after school hours. It is just starting with a few groups and eventually the entire staff will be staying several hours after school. No money available for overtime. Where is the union when we need them. For some of us, we may have to drop out to help make-up the 2.5% decrease.
Yes, teachers work 37.5 hours per week just like all other state employees. The difference is that teachers put in a minimum of 15 to 20 additional hours per week in planning, creating and preparing materials, and grading. The new program will probably increase our typical 15 to 20 hours a week to about 20 to 30. Do the math, teachers now work 57.5 to 67.5 hours per week. Where is our Big Guy when we need him?
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| they brag about low referral rates? ha. i was told by a former teacher that many teachers stopped writing referrals because it wasnt worth the effort to do so! of course your numbers will be low if no one writes one and they are not going to be enforced. there was always talk that a certain administrator made referrals disappear.
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New policies at the high school this year iare:
- If the teacher sees a CELL, office referral
- If the students refuse to take off hats, hoods, headphones, or coats, office referral
I hope everyone is on board with supporting these new policies. In the past, the teachers did not have the support of the administration once a student went to the office for dress code issues. CELLS were usually supported.
SHS will not be able to brag about a decrease in office referrals, but the positive will be that we are united as a school to enforce these basic rules and that as an entire staff (including administration) respects our rules and policies.
Fingers crossed for the best results!
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| my niece told me they got the riot act today about cell phones. say it isnt so that they are actually going to enforce something?
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The highlight of today's opening meeting was the elementary schools. They did a great job!!!! Our School Board President had shared with us all of his accomplishments and that he was proud of the fact that the SB had opened the lines of communication between the board and teachers. I am confused because during his tenure, a policy was created that prevented faculty from communicating directly with school board members.
It also seemed that the President was a little off today. Speech was very low-key and it looked like he had difficulty with his speech. He sure was dependent on those notes. He might take a few pointers from the Dallas School District keynote speaker, so he can BELIEVE!
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Show us the money! During a financial crisis where state employees have all taken a pay cut, some people have had their positions disolved, and no extra money for any frills - how can we (SSD) justify the district wide breakfast on Thursday. What about the breakfast being held for the students on the first day at the high school? Who is paying for this? For the last two years, the state has said no funds can be spent on food for meetings or activities. For the last two years, staff members have been digging into their pockets and paying. Some people have had food donated. Money from grants is also handle the same way.
Who is paying for our breakfasts? Have all the administrators chipped in or is Dr. Knorr doing this for all of us. If not, I think we should not have the breakfast and everyone would understand. Who is paying for the breakfast on the first day of school at the high school? Mr. Davis?
Lean means lean. This is also a teachable moment for our students to understand what needs to be done during a period of economic decline.
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| i have to agree about the experienced teachers. too many have been driven to retirement lately with sour grapes! they watched the school go down like a rock and did not get to enjoy leaving on top. some of those teachers did not deserve the final years they received. they deserved so much better and no one is doing anything about it. you are right SOS. keep preaching!
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SeafordCO2008 wrote: When does your stand up act go on tour?
Yeah, experienced teacher. Most of the "experienced" teachers are past prime and out of date. One just retired who did the same thing you are doing, whine and complain all the time.
Get admin cert? From Wilmington University? You got to be kidding me!
Well like I said be patient. One admin down, maybe a few more will be next this year? Believe me, if you have been as vocal as you say, I have not seen it!
Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions. I respect yours, but I am concerned about the be patient part. Obviously, you do not have military training. Being patient does take`a great deal of time. Time is short for us or anyone on life support. It is not good to sit and wait for the bomb to be dropped. The results are documented in history books.
Most of the "experienced" teachers are past prime and out of date. Another problem in our district is that "experienced" teachers are not respected and utilized at the high school. They are usually looked down on. Having an older staff has already been used as an excuse by the SHS leader. Teachers are classified as experienced at the five-year mark. I think this has been a problem with the leadership team, inexperienced.
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When does your stand up act go on tour?
Yeah, experienced teacher. Most of the "experienced" teachers are past prime and out of date. One just retired who did the same thing you are doing, whine and complain all the time.
Get admin cert? From Wilmington University? You got to be kidding me!
Well like I said be patient. One admin down, maybe a few more will be next this year? Believe me, if you have been as vocal as you say, I have not seen it!
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SeafordCO2008 wrote: All right, well, you have some options here:
1) Quit and work some place else or retire (if you have been around a LONG time as you say, you must be close)
2) Get administrative certification and apply for a spot! Dr. VanSciver's will certainly be up at some point.
3) Stop whining and suck it up! I could whine like you (and have a few times), but I have what we call patience!
I've been at my vacation home on the beach basking in the sun reflecting on your comments. Your suggestions are not acceptable. Sounds like the advice of a high school principal. 1. Quit. Not a good plan. Get rid of an experienced teachers because you do not like their ideas. It is the same advice we give to lots of our students. I guess that is why the high school graduation rate is so outstanding. 2. Get administrative certification. Most of the teachers in the district who have M.Ed.s have or can apply for administrative certification. The truth is, the district will not high strong people, usually hires puppets. Keep in mind that I used the word "usually" not "always". 3. Stop whining and suck it up, be patient. Bad idea. Did you see the results of the state test scores? Wow! SHS does it again. We are on life support again. How many years does a school have to fail or in your words ,we need to be patient, before we should expect change. How long has the current SHS leader been in place? How long would they have kept a teacher with those results.
I am looking forward to the beginning of this school year, because the school leader will have to function on his own merit. With Dr. "V" out of the way, no one to blame and on the other hand, no protection. Totally exposed.
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All right, well, you have some options here:
1) Quit and work some place else or retire (if you have been around a LONG time as you say, you must be close)
2) Get administrative certification and apply for a spot! Dr. VanSciver's will certainly be up at some point.
3) Stop whining and suck it up! I could whine like you (and have a few times), but I have what we call patience!
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SeafordCO2008 wrote: Well isn't that funny you two? It will be fixed in a few weeks. You should join us when we fix it!
It is so sad is that your standards and expectation are not any better than those of the website's creator. What a joke, it will be fixed in a few weeks! If you are going to wait a few weeks, why not just leave it alone. Who will want to read it.
That is not good enough! That is why the school is in the shape it is with attitudes like yours. Does anyone know what the words SEAFORD PRIDE MEAN? Something so easy to take care of and but no pride. Errors are not acceptable. If you state you have minutes, then upload them. That page is a tool for the public but it gives a negative impression. As usual, the job is botched and half a.......ed
This philosophy is spreading through the school like a virus. We never do what we say we are going to do and we rarely meet deadlines. The only time report cards went out onl a timely basis was under Doug Brown's watch. So folks - guess what - report cards will be a surprise when they arrive. Same situation with the new commuication system "Alert". The only one who used it at the high school or possibly the only who knows how to use the system was Doug Brown.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 03:13 pm |
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| Well isn't that funny you two? It will be fixed in a few weeks. You should join us when we fix it!
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 03:39 am |
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| Any entity with a website does itself a huge disservice by not maintaining it and keeping their information current, accurate, and complete. Presumably it is established to provide information and many of us prefer to obtain our information from on-line sources.
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Has anyone visited the Principal's Corner lately. A parent asked me today why is there outdated stuff on the site? Fall athletic schedule 2008. Spring athletic schedule did not make the site - oops! The message from the principal also states that there are minutes from various groups - but where are they (MIA), Acceptable Use for Video/Audio - confusion because the title states Curriculum Maps and Course Outlines, under curriculum maps (maps are missing) just the policy is posted, E-school under Access Point does not work, and the fake signature needs to go.
All I could tell the parent was that things are always done half-way at the high school. The website is very weak including the quote. Whose quote is it? The quote was not self-created because there are many versions of that quote in teacher methods' books. Give credit where credit is due!!!! On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 the highest; I would rate this website a 4. Basically, it is in bad shape.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2009 01:50 am |
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SeafordParent wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/07/22/bia.education.success/index.html
this is what is needed.
Great article. The main difference is that Principal Perry is dedicated to his students and to his profession. He leads by example. He respects rules and policies. He is consistent and follows through. He walks the halls like he owns the school. It is more than a check and a title. Principal Perry takes responsibility for his school.
He consistently enforced the rules. Our rules are only enforced when someone is called on the carpet. Enforcing rules run hot and cold. Curly thinks lobby and hall duty is social time. Hats should be off when entering the building, no coats mean no coats. There was a time when the teachers had to determine thickness of the garment to determine what is a coat. Next moment, all students with zipper sweatshirts were told to take them off and place them in their lockers. When you can understand the HS announcements, you will realize that the rules change daily. Big rule changes usually happen on Monday mornings (Saturday and Sunday to think up new rules).
Thumbs up for Principal Perry!!!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2009 01:54 pm |
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/07/22/bia.education.success/index.html
this is what is needed.
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PeterGriffin wrote: I have heard that most of the days in districts are coming from PD days or conference days, which is kind of scary since parent/teacher conferences are important for some. Some unions are making a solidarity move to show parents how government will affect school on that one. Otherwise, it depends on when they occur. When do your days occur? Do you have many at the beginning of the year? End? Scattered? In reality your school district will have to make its mind up fast, they cannot wait to decide how to eliminate those 5 days, that is state money they are playing with that they do not have to give so.
Seaford School District usually has 3 at the beginning and 2 to 2.5 at the end of the school year with 4 or 5 scattered throughout the school year. The scattered days are sometimes on Fridays and Wednesdays. It would be nice if the district would solicit input from the members of the district.
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I have heard that most of the days in districts are coming from PD days or conference days, which is kind of scary since parent/teacher conferences are important for some. Some unions are making a solidarity move to show parents how government will affect school on that one. Otherwise, it depends on when they occur. When do your days occur? Do you have many at the beginning of the year? End? Scattered? In reality your school district will have to make its mind up fast, they cannot wait to decide how to eliminate those 5 days, that is state money they are playing with that they do not have to give so.
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SDMember wrote: Here is a thought. How is taking days away from schools going to help students and teachers? Even if the days are not student days it still will take away from something. Teaching and rasing todays kids is a hard enough job for teachers and parents. Just look at cell phones and all the other distractions kids have today that is more important to them than school.
Student days are not part of the plan. Each school district is suppose to devise a plan and submit it to the state. I wonder if Seaford will meet the deadline. Basically, there is one option available to teachers: five days from professional/inservice days. The plan will probably be for professional days deleted from the beginning or the end of the school year. So this is what will more than likely happen, teachers will still work days at the beginning and the end because they need to set-up and clean-up for the start and end of the school year (so no days off). Professional days at the high school are basically a waste of time. The training is unorganized and the presenters cannot answer questions. Professional days at the other schools is much better because of the leadership. Last year, the training for the new evaluation system was a joke. About 75% of the teachers did not get anything from that training last year. It is sad when one of the leaders has to read out loud from his manual during the teacher conferences to keep from making a mistake. No it is not sad, it is pathetic. It is difficult to train someone who already thinks he knows everything. I guess that is why the high school ranks in the lower bottom half of high schools in the state.
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Here is a thought. How is taking days away from schools going to help students and teachers? Even if the days are not student days it still will take away from something. Teaching and rasing todays kids is a hard enough job for teachers and parents. Just look at cell phones and all the other distractions kids have today that is more important to them than school.
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Posted: Sun Jul 12th, 2009 10:13 pm |
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| It will be interesting to see how the days are used. Hopefully they will not affect students in any way. It is a shame that the state budget falls into the laps of the schools.
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Posted: Sun Jul 12th, 2009 01:41 am |
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SeafordParent wrote: SOS wrote: With the high school 's enrollment on the decrease and the state assistance for leadership, the district might save money by not replacing Doug Brown. Each administrator would have about 425 students each to supervise. The same ratio as the guidance department with more secretarial support. At the current time, we really only have 2.5 administrators because one is only present 50% of the time.
they'd be dumb not to replace him especially with one not around half the time. at least hire one that will get results like mr brown did and hope that they do not chase this one away!
They are not going to replace the .5 administrator. Lets get real, the district never replaces low performing administrators, just teachers. Basically, the district has more administrators than they need. Sometimes, these administrators are held in their positions because they have been promised district positions. Nice reward system. Do poorly and you get a promotion.
It will be interesting to see what Seaford's plan is for the five furlough days. Who will it benefit?
Mr. Brown is one of the best administrators we have had in a long time at the high school because he did care, but he was getting discouraged by his colleagues. Our loss is Lake Forest's gain. We all know who keeps running off teachers and administrators at the high school and it does not take a (5) to figure that one out.
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Posted: Sun Jul 12th, 2009 12:05 am |
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SOS wrote: With the high school 's enrollment on the decrease and the state assistance for leadership, the district might save money by not replacing Doug Brown. Each administrator would have about 425 students each to supervise. The same ratio as the guidance department with more secretarial support. At the current time, we really only have 2.5 administrators because one is only present 50% of the time.
they'd be dumb not to replace him especially with one not around half the time. at least hire one that will get results like mr brown did and hope that they do not chase this one away!
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SDMember wrote: What do other distrcits do with phones? I remember when if you needed to call someone you went to the main office and asked to use the phone or you used a pay phone. Kids today have so many gadgets no wonder they don't care about school.
agreed. they do not care. i have said it over and over. only so many do anymore. they should get real and just put out the kids who dont care, let them suffer in the real world and maybe they will come back and play right!
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Love that!  You're my hero Barney, except the cat thing.
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SDMember wrote: On the cell phone thing. What is Woodbridge going to do if students bring or use a cell phone? The state has banned talking and driving at the same time but people still do it. You can't just put the kids out if they bring a phone.
The school has contracted with me to enforce the rule. I am to bring a heavy hammer from the quarry. Fred is to place the phone on the large wooden block. I will reduce it to trash in one chop. Kid is out the value of one phone. Bring one again tomorrow it suffers the same fate. Same happens to cats if Fred can catch them.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 04:15 pm |
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| Why can't you put them out for bringing a phone? If that's the rule, there have to be consequences for breaking the rule.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 04:01 pm |
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| What do other distrcits do with phones? I remember when if you needed to call someone you went to the main office and asked to use the phone or you used a pay phone. Kids today have so many gadgets no wonder they don't care about school.
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