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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 06:23 pm |
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When I refer to the Puppet Master’s cast it includes the school board, except for the new kid on the block. She has chosen to feature herself as a one act play. The Puppet Master does not like one-act plays because they are difficult to control.
Yes, our district has its challenges when it comes to many of the students. The community is up against the challenges of its residents who are our students’ parents. Seaford and Seaford school district has a tough job ahead of them, but all goals can be accomplished with strong leadership, Throughout history, strong leaders have taken “misfits” and accomplished great things. Strong leaders have to be passionate about their mission. “Big Puppet” lacks passion. Puppets are empty shells that function only when their strings are pulled. “Big Puppet” has to decide if he wants to be a “real boy” as much as Pinocchio. If he doesn’t, we all know what happens to old puppets. Puppet Shows are always short lived until they are recreated in different venues.
People need to spend the weekend watching old movies with strong leaders. Check out the “Dirty Dozen”. Also, if you want to understand our administration, check out “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” and “The Breakfast Club”. Most people think these movies are about kids being kids or kids being bad. Focus on the principals. Just look at how the entertainment industry portrays schools with problems. Who is usually the joke - weak administrators. Why would the world think this? Food for thought!
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 09:50 pm |
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SecondConcernedCitizen wrote: Seaford Parent ~ It is clear that you are not going to let the subject of the college student drop. I will, and I am getting back to the administration problems at the school. Have a great weekend.
well at some point we cant just completely blame the admins, though there are thouroughly incompetent.
we have to remember that our kids have to take some blame at some point as well as their parents. most of them do not care and they do not help!
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 03:08 pm |
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I just went on the Seaford School District Website and read their Mission Statement, Educational Philosophy, and Philosophic Beliefs. No wonder the school is failing. I don't think the administrators are following their own "beliefs". If Curley makes up his own rules and guidelines when it suits him, no wonder the school is in trouble. It seems as though all the administrators have done this over the years. So who is in charge of the administrators? Who hired these administrators and who really is at blame here? I'm guessing it's the Master Puppet. When you allow these administrators do as they please, without following your very own policies and the state policies; you are setting the whole school up for failure. Why is the Master Puppet still on the board? WHY?!
I think those that are true teachers, true to themselves and their students, should go in front of the whole school board and voice their concerns. As I said before the school is only as good as their front office.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 03:01 pm |
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| Seaford Parent ~ It is clear that you are not going to let the subject of the college student drop. I will, and I am getting back to the administration problems at the school. Have a great weekend.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 12:06 am |
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SecondConcernedCitizen wrote: I.M.O. She had to be somewhat diligent in order for her to meet the criteria of college. You don't get into college on looks alone. I read her opinion and a couple of others that made it to the local papers. They have valid reasons for not being college prepared, it did not sound like a disgruntled student; more like one giving a wake up call to the school and other students in her shoes.
well then she shouldnt complain, she got into college. albeit, it was bryn mawr I believe or swarthmore. not every high school can prepare kids for tough colleges. just ask the ivy league schools. to succeed at them it takes more than what a school can do IMO 
she should suck it up. ask a kid at UD if they are not prepared. she was the only one to complain anyway. where were the other masses complaining? besides, most of our kids go to del tech anyway! that's not exactly bryn mawr!
my girls never had problems even in AP classes. its not just the teachers job to get a student to succeed in AP. it takes the student to actively particpate too. in fact we have a board member who is upset with AP mainly because one of her kids did not fair well on the tests. the other one had no problem cause she was in the same class with my one daughter. sometimes, its a kid thing, not the teacher just ask me about my youngest. I had him in an AP class. that was a BIG mistake. he could not handle it!
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 04:15 am |
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How many years does it take to trash a high school? I was wondering if Curley has broken any records. I cannot understand why the school board does not get it. How many years do you have to have failing test scores? How many students have to drop out of your school? How many students per year school choice out of your school? How many AP classes have to be destroyed? How many times does the staff have to deal with wrong information? If Curley worked at McDonalds and performed at the level that he performs at the high school, he would be fired. Over 75% of the activites at the high school are deficient: academics, sports, the Arts, teacher enrichment, parent involvement, attendance, and communication.
Each day is a whole new experience. No one knows what the rules are from day to day or what mood Curley is in. Curley swings from “funny guy” to “big and bad guy” The lack of organization and structure is disruptive to the learning process. We get new rules and guidelines daily. These are rules made by the “seat of Curley’s pants”. Sometimes they change hourly. Because they are not in writing, it is hard for him or anyone else to remember, so we get new ones.
I said earlier he can dance and that is just what he does for the school board. He does the talk, but we all know he can’t do the walk. What kind of grade should the school board and the community give Curley?
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 02:57 am |
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"But I have read in the paper a couple of times from students who were the big cheese at Seaford, but only to find out in college how difficult college work is. I wouldn't buy into letter written by disgruntled students. My youngest daughter was in classes with that girl who wrote that letter and let me tell you, she was not the most dilligent student. "
I.M.O. She had to be somewhat diligent in order for her to meet the criteria of college. You don't get into college on looks alone. I read her opinion and a couple of others that made it to the local papers. They have valid reasons for not being college prepared, it did not sound like a disgruntled student; more like one giving a wake up call to the school and other students in her shoes.
This all boils down to one thing......either you "accept" Seaford for what it is OR you "accept" Seaford for what it isn't. Those that accept "what it isn't" ends up moving on. That includes students, teachers and administrators.
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 08:04 pm |
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| Why isn't there any support for the band like that today?! WHY???
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 07:58 pm |
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"If you want a certificate of attendance or want to go into a production type job there's Seaford. Sorry, the state test scores support this. This makes no sense!"
The test scores do not meet the state standards. (Reading and Math). So what happens to the students who do not do well in these tests? The majority go into production type jobs. Maybe someone should take the graduates of Seaford and find out what they are doing as adults. I would like to know if any statistics are available. Does any one know?
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 03:55 am |
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The band went down hill after Mark Benson left and Curley's buddy took over and destroyed all the work Mr. Benson put into that band. Mr. Benson had a working parent support group that any school would have killed to have. The parents hand-sewed costumes and flags for the band's performances when they competed in the T.O.B. They took care of the uniforms, fed the band, and basically did what needed to be done. You don't see that kind of support in the school now.
SOS wrote: Excuse me. The band director at Tech is Curley's buddy. The last good band director was Mark Benson. Curley couldn't even keep his buddy at Seaford.
It was asked earlier what can Curley do well - he can dance and that is all.
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 01:55 am |
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Excuse me. The band director at Tech is Curley's buddy. The last good band director was Mark Benson. Curley couldn't even keep his buddy at Seaford.
It was asked earlier what can Curley do well - he can dance and that is all.
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 10:55 pm |
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SecondConcernedCitizen wrote: If you want a certificate of attendance or want to go into a production type job there's Seaford. Sorry, the state test scores support this. This makes no sense! But I have read in the paper a couple of times from students who were the big cheese at Seaford, but only to find out in college how difficult college work is. I wouldn't buy into letter written by disgruntled students. My youngest daughter was in classes with that girl who wrote that letter and let me tell you, she was not the most dilligent student. all of today's kids struggle when they go to college cause they take it lightly not because of high school. they pay for what they get and not all of them work that hard. believe me, my oldest is proof of that! took her a year to figure it out!
How come Seaford's Band is small? You would think that Curly's experience in that area would've made Seaford a stand out band. Why did the band go down hill under his leadership? Are there any things that stand out that makes him a great principal? What about the assistant principal (s)? What are they known for? What kind of marks are these leaders going to leave when they're gone? What makes a great principal and assistant principal? the band is small because the last good band director we had is the band director at tech. case closed!
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 04:10 am |
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I don't think any schools "STEAL" students. Parents and students together try to do well, and if it means getting into a great recognized school, then the student works harder with the parent's support to get in.
If you want a certificate of attendance or want to go into a production type job there's Seaford. Sorry, the state test scores support this. However, there are students who manage to do very well in Seaford and go on to college. But I have read in the paper a couple of times from students who were the big cheese at Seaford, but only to find out in college how difficult college work is.
How come Seaford's Band is small? You would think that Curly's experience in that area would've made Seaford a stand out band. Why did the band go down hill under his leadership? Are there any things that stand out that makes him a great principal? What about the assistant principal (s)? What are they known for? What kind of marks are these leaders going to leave when they're gone? What makes a great principal and assistant principal?
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 11:12 pm |
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well from what I know about these kids today, it is not easy to reach them, they want the easy way out and dont want to work hard for anything. even my last one was that way. my niece is not that much far off. i certainly will not defend her on everything she can be lazy and I have heard her complain about having to do work for certain teachers. but that is how i know they are good teachers! used to be that way with teachers like Mr. Cannon. everyone complained about him but he taught us well!
you know the teacher is a good teacher if your kid complains about having to work for them. think of all those other teachers who give many inches!
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 06:52 pm |
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SeafordParent wrote: well despite your rambling reply, yes it is wrong to blame tech for the problems but they make it too easy!
one teacher told me once that curley said a few times there have been years when the high school could have passed the dstp score requirements if only one student had done better. that could have been the one straight A student that tech stole!
and yes i realize there are other issues. my niece is glad she is graduating this year. she does not want to be in classes with kids who do not care give teachers a hard time and act stupid. i understand the excuses too in that issue. you have to work with what you get but really some kids just dont want to be taught so get rid of them and make them realize how hard their life is going to be without an education. quit trying to fix them!
The stats from the DSTP results are more difficult than just stating one student. The results are calculated from cells (units) of categories. The cells that we need are the areas of special education and male minorities. Until we can figure out how we can reach these students, our numbers will not move. The direction of state testing is going to measure individual students and their individual growth. This will give all schools a clear picture.
We lose a lot of students to other schools, but no one addresses the problem of why we are losing students in general. Why are so many people in the area choosing to send their children to christian based private schools? Why are so many people sending their children to private schools in Maryland? There are some families in the Seaford School District that are carpooling and taking their kids to schools in Middletown and Wilmington.
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 04:46 pm |
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well despite your rambling reply, yes it is wrong to blame tech for the problems but they make it too easy!
one teacher told me once that curley said a few times there have been years when the high school could have passed the dstp score requirements if only one student had done better. that could have been the one straight A student that tech stole!
and yes i realize there are other issues. my niece is glad she is graduating this year. she does not want to be in classes with kids who do not care give teachers a hard time and act stupid. i understand the excuses too in that issue. you have to work with what you get but really some kids just dont want to be taught so get rid of them and make them realize how hard their life is going to be without an education. quit trying to fix them!
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 11:34 pm |
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SeafordParent wrote: SOS wrote: I regret to inform you and others, but Seaford Parent you are wrong. To ay's tech schools train for careers. Careers that need training at the high school level, and for careers that need college. The problem with most of the careers is that our country needs more skilled workers which means they need solid basic educational skills (reading, writing, science & math). Social studies courses should not be increased at the high school level because they actually do not create better skilled workers. SHS is deficient in numbers. We need to look at the individuals in our community who are reproducing. It only takes a couple of generations where dropping out of school is acceptable or individuals being passed along because of athletic abilities to catch up with the current situation of the school. (We also need to stop blaming DuPont).
There are serious issues with major corporations opening up in our area. Look at Loews. It was difficult for them to staff and the opening was delayed. The same thing is going to happen up north with the old GM plant. The prior (skill /academic abilities)employees may not be able to support the new electric car industry. There will be jobs, but not for all of the prior GM employees.
In reference to the Tech Schools. Don't blame them, it is not their fault. The Tech school system is a state structure.
A side bar: this blog is focused on confused administrators. We got a little off track.
none of this makes any sense. we didnt get off track, you brought up the blame sussex tech thing. lowes cant staff because sussex tech doesnt put out enough students who know anything about what lowes sells, carpentry supplies! you made my point for me!
and dont bash social studies those are the better classes at the hs with the better teachers that seem to do their job right. i heard cp was retiring. that will be a big loss for the high school. you cannot argue any type of course does not prepare a student for a career. all classes require the basic things any person looking for a job needs to have.
Sussex Tech was brought up because of a statement that Big Puppet made on Wednesday. I did not bash social studies or the social studies teachers. My reference is made in the direction of new curricula (4 of each core). Social studies is the one area of the four that I would decrease to 3 and it leaves opportunities for career related electives. Lowes was not depending on Sussex Tech to staff their operation. There are all kinds of positions that require basic reading, writing, math skills in addition to being drug freeat Lowes. Most of the trades now require an associate degree and all students from our can area can go to DTCC.
The high school will not go anywhere until it gets off the "blame train". Sussex Tech pulls students from all of the counties' schools. SHS cries the most. Our school leaders have more excuses than they do remedies.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 10:46 pm |
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SOS wrote: I regret to inform you and others, but Seaford Parent you are wrong. To ay's tech schools train for careers. Careers that need training at the high school level, and for careers that need college. The problem with most of the careers is that our country needs more skilled workers which means they need solid basic educational skills (reading, writing, science & math). Social studies courses should not be increased at the high school level because they actually do not create better skilled workers. SHS is deficient in numbers. We need to look at the individuals in our community who are reproducing. It only takes a couple of generations where dropping out of school is acceptable or individuals being passed along because of athletic abilities to catch up with the current situation of the school. (We also need to stop blaming DuPont).
There are serious issues with major corporations opening up in our area. Look at Loews. It was difficult for them to staff and the opening was delayed. The same thing is going to happen up north with the old GM plant. The prior (skill /academic abilities)employees may not be able to support the new electric car industry. There will be jobs, but not for all of the prior GM employees.
In reference to the Tech Schools. Don't blame them, it is not their fault. The Tech school system is a state structure.
A side bar: this blog is focused on confused administrators. We got a little off track.
none of this makes any sense. we didnt get off track, you brought up the blame sussex tech thing. lowes cant staff because sussex tech doesnt put out enough students who know anything about what lowes sells, carpentry supplies! you made my point for me!
and dont bash social studies those are the better classes at the hs with the better teachers that seem to do their job right. i heard cp was retiring. that will be a big loss for the high school. you cannot argue any type of course does not prepare a student for a career. all classes require the basic things any person looking for a job needs to have.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 06:22 pm |
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| Ooooohhhhhhh......tell me what Bib Puppet's plans are...please. I missed it!
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 05:35 pm |
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SecondConcernedCitizen, you hit the nail on the head when you pointed your finger to lack of leadership in the high school. Yesterday, "Big Puppet" decided to do something that is appropriate and expected of a leader of an organization. As usual, occassionally when he does the right thing, he advertises it to the entire audience (mass media).
He does not have to tell us what he is going to do; we should see it.
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I regret to inform you and others, but Seaford Parent you are wrong. To ay's tech schools train for careers. Careers that need training at the high school level, and for careers that need college. The problem with most of the careers is that our country needs more skilled workers which means they need solid basic educational skills (reading, writing, science & math). Social studies courses should not be increased at the high school level because they actually do not create better skilled workers. SHS is deficient in numbers. We need to look at the individuals in our community who are reproducing. It only takes a couple of generations where dropping out of school is acceptable or individuals being passed along because of athletic abilities to catch up with the current situation of the school. (We also need to stop blaming DuPont).
There are serious issues with major corporations opening up in our area. Look at Loews. It was difficult for them to staff and the opening was delayed. The same thing is going to happen up north with the old GM plant. The prior (skill /academic abilities)employees may not be able to support the new electric car industry. There will be jobs, but not for all of the prior GM employees.
In reference to the Tech Schools. Don't blame them, it is not their fault. The Tech school system is a state structure.
A side bar: this blog is focused on confused administrators. We got a little off track.
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If Sussex Tech gets the BEST, it's because they EXPECT the BEST! You only get what you expect.
thats right they expect the best and guess what, if you are not the best, they can throw you out and send you back to your home school. they dont help kids either! and they dont have to worry about that with kids from Seaford since they only take our good 8th graders. ask the ms principal she will tell you how to tries to keep them away from her academic students to no avail
Technical Schools aren't what they were labeled as 20 - 30 years ago.
FALSE! Polytech and all of the NCCO schools are still TRUE vo-tech schools teaching purely trade courses. they are not a charter school exclusively for whoever they chose!
And let me add a few meaningful stats...
Vocational programs at Sussex Tech - 15 (and actually there are 2 or 3 I wouldn't count as truly vocational)
At Delcastle Tech - 22 (ALL real vocational trade programs)
At Hodgson Tech - 19 (ALL real vocational trade programs)
At Howard Career and Tech - 13 (ALL real vocational trade programs)
At St. Georges Tech - 15 (ALL real vocational trade programs)
At Polytech - 20 (ALL real vocational trade programs)
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No, I would never blame another school (sussex tech) for taking another's assistant principal. Just as I would never blame another school for taking some of the best teachers. No one wants to work in a place that's designed to fail from the get go. Perhaps that asst. principal knew inside information that he saw first hand how Seaford's lack of leadership was causing the school to fail. Seaford's quality of management has consistently brought down the school over the years. Now my question is this....who is to "blame" for poor management? Doesn't the Seaford Community have a vote in to who is on the school board and who elects these officials and is that's so...why isn't the school board taking responsibility instead of pointing fingers at the school's staff? Why isn't the superintendant more involved in the school itself? Sounds like someone's passing the buck here. A bit disheartening.
If Seaford has low GPA and problem students why isn't the school making changes to better this? If they are, why aren't these changes working? If Sussex Tech gets the BEST, it's because they EXPECT the BEST! You only get what you expect. Technical Schools aren't what they were labeled as 20 - 30 years ago. These tech schools aren't just providing "work shops" they are providing medical, dental and other college bound studies. Not like in the past where they pumped out almost skilled laborers.
Personally, Seaford has a lot of administration problems and is frowned upon by other schools. The testing scores backs this up. You're only as good as your school board allows you to be.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:38 am |
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| well you can blame sussex tech, for taking our better assistant principal, taking our best 8th grade students and defying the purpose of its mission which is to provide a vocational education to students who wish to work right out of high school, usually the students who dont always have that much ambition and drive! my niece has friends whod rather be learning cosmotology but cant because they were turned down. i dont think a school should require a minimum gpa, no discipline problems and such unless you are applyingand paying to attend
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| Thank you! I am so glad to see that there are people who understand and also can think creatively.
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Okay. Let me see if i got these cast of characters correct. Are you saying the Puppet Master is Dr. K? The Big Puppet is Curley? Because if so, that makes a lot of sense.
Now that Van Sciver has left, Billy the Jigsaw aka Curley aka Big Puppet will have to let go of the tricycle and learn to ride his bicycle with training wheels. Can he do it? Or will he continue to let his strings be pulled by Puppet Master and let the school continue failing and hurt the rest of the cast? Meanwhile blaming Sussex Tech for all the failures. Where does Griffith fit in? Or is he one hurt puppet, that lies down, strings all in a bunch until he's called to act (ion)?
I feel so sorry for the true teachers who teach from the heart and want the school to succeed. To have their strings cut while laying in a pile of the Puppet Master's and the Big Puppet's tangled strings. It's like a festering sore, only now someone has to take responsibility for all those long days in the cafeteria where Larry, Moe, and Curley were having manly togetherness, when they should've been coming up with a plan to "save" Seaford. Now the whole school will have to pay for their irresponsibility and bad decisions. No wonder VanSciver left......did he leave because he "jumped a sinking ship" or did he leave because the Puppet Master cut his strings?!
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| Oops! Possibly you are showing your age or you were not in the audience today.
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| yeah you have totally lost me, really!
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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 11:38 pm |
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Puppet Master must have given “Big Puppet” the wrong script for this afternoon’s matinee` or was he just confused? As “Big Puppet” approached the epilogue, his demeanor shifted into Billy the Jigsaw with the following quote; “He was sick and tired of everyone blaming Sussex Tech”. Billy the Jigsaw must be confused because “Big Puppet” always blames Sussex Tech for our failures.
The next Billy the Jigsaw moment was when “Big Puppet” presented to the audience, “Do you really think that if my walking out of this building right now would change the students’ test scores, that I wouldn’t walk out.” My interpretation of his statement is that he would leave the school if it would improve students’ performance.
Do you think he said this because it was option #2 on the state guidelines for reorganization?
Last year, “Big Puppet” made several appearances where he made the following statement, “I’m here to stay and no one is going to run me off”. I think the recent roast at the board meeting was to reveal “Big Puppet’s” inner-self: Billy the Jigsaw!
Puppet Master will not let Billy bring his tri-cycle to school.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 03:41 am |
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| Apparently they don't have a soul either....
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 07:52 pm |
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| The problem with our school district is that puppets do not have brains; they have strings.
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 09:58 pm |
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SecondConcernedCitizen wrote: Middle School Success??!!! Can you tell by the ninth graders entering into high school that these students will be successful and graduate? Where are the problem students coming from if the middle school is so successful? Isn't Knorr ahead of the Middle School also?
Why is it the high school is having difficulties while the middle school isn't, but still has the same person running the show? I don't know if any one person is to blame here. It's a combination of no one taking the responsibility of the failure of their school. It's all finger pointing and no one but teachers are coming up with ways to help the school be successful. WHY DOESN"T SOMEONE LISTEN to these teachers who first hand know solutions that will help?
the middle school is only barely getting by. they got lucky on dstp tests when they didnt have certain groups of kids in that testing age at the time. it was in the paper. my question is, with the high school down on things at the state level, how long is it before they replace "Curley" as you call him.
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 08:44 pm |
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Middle School Success??!!! Can you tell by the ninth graders entering into high school that these students will be successful and graduate? Where are the problem students coming from if the middle school is so successful? Isn't Knorr ahead of the Middle School also?
Why is it the high school is having difficulties while the middle school isn't, but still has the same person running the show? I don't know if any one person is to blame here. It's a combination of no one taking the responsibility of the failure of their school. It's all finger pointing and no one but teachers are coming up with ways to help the school be successful. WHY DOESN"T SOMEONE LISTEN to these teachers who first hand know solutions that will help?
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 08:36 pm |
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After reading about the puppet master and his puppets along with Curley and Griff and Dr. Knorr; I've come to one conclusion. You just can't "pretend" to have a good school, eventually it all catches up. Maybe it took years in the making, but this Dr. Knorr and his puppets have destroyed what Seaford High School was at one time and what could be again. Perhaps this new woman board member has seen this and is trying to get the changes made, even if it means making a laughing stock of poor Curley. Doesn't Curley have any of his leadership qualities left? You would have thought making the presentation in front of the school board he would have shined.
One last question....why is Griff in the position he's in if he can't do his job?
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 05:03 am |
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SeafordParent wrote: SOS wrote: A new individual has been added to the cast, nonadministrative, but he does not live in the school district either.
who might this be? my sister in law told me carey was not coming back right away anywhere. is this person the so called dean of students?
Yes it is the Dean of Students. I guess they did not want any middle school success filtering over to the high school or maybe they did not want a spy in the high school. The "Big Puppet" would not like the SMS principal to know his daily behavior because she would know how many times a day his nose grows in length.
Unfortunately, the middle school had the best candidate.
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 02:20 am |
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SOS wrote: A new individual has been added to the cast, nonadministrative, but he does not live in the school district either.
who might this be? my sister in law told me carey was not coming back right away anywhere. is this person the so called dean of students?
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Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 05:38 am |
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SecondConcernedCitizen wrote: I wouldn't put all the blame on VanSciver. Who is his boss? Knorr? I blame him too. He should certainly be aware of the problems VanSciver brought on and should be taking steps to correct it. Problems as in low test scores, no vocational programs, behavior of staff and students. As for "Curley", now we get to the the real deal. Can he handle the heat? Makes you wonder how this infamous band man got where he is. Was he VanSciver's lackey or Knorr's? just wondering out loud here. As for Griffith, you know....the one with the great personality that hides behind "Curley" making the decisions, what will happen to him? Doesn't some of this mess reflect on him too? I heard the saying "you're only as good as your front office" . AMEN!
You are correct. The captain is responsible for the sinking ship and the pitcher is responsible for the game. The reason the district's super is not held accountable is because he endorses people that look to him for knowledge and guidance. There is a new kid on the block and this board member will not fall in line and follow. We finally have a bright individual who is stakeholder in the community. "Curley" cannot bluff his way through school life in front of this board member. "Griff" is in a tough situation. He was just excited to get the opportunity to be in a leadership role and get out of the classroom, but he does not have anyone to help him grow. He has not had any offers out of the Seaford School District, so he is basically stuck. The district loses their best teachers and administrators to other districts. The puppets do not care. The people who leave make the polite excuses of why they are leaving, but they leave because they cannot tolerate the deterioration of their careers. Curt Bunting and Doug Brown had to leave in order to grow and developed. These guys were not puppet material. What happens when you have puppets leading a school, the curtain will never rise and there will never be a show. The puppets just keep confusing people and running them off.
The real problem at the HS is constant confusion and lack of direction. Most of the teachers have a stronger knowledge base than the puppets. It is discouraging to be directed to do things incorrectly. It is depressing to do things wrong to just keep from receiving consequences. Most of us stay because we have invested several years, we are embedded in the community, and we have refused to let the puppets run us off.
A similar situation happened in one of our elementary schools. It is difficult to lead people who have more knowledge than you do. It never works.
It is hard to swallow the puppets' directions when you know in your heart they are incorrect. T he puppets are all talk and no show or maybe they just do not get it. The HS does not have one administrator that lives in the school district. A new individual has been added to the cast, nonadministrative, but he does not live in the school district either. In a small community like Seaford, the puppets should live in the district and their children should attend the district public schools. They should feel comfortable with the district providing the education of their children then maybe it would be safe for all children.The school cannot recover under the regime that is in place.
Our country voted for "Change"! Why can't we have the same opportunity?
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Posted: Mon Oct 12th, 2009 01:26 pm |
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| I wouldn't put all the blame on VanSciver. Who is his boss? Knorr? I blame him too. He should certainly be aware of the problems VanSciver brought on and should be taking steps to correct it. Problems as in low test scores, no vocational programs, behavior of staff and students. As for "Curley", now we get to the the real deal. Can he handle the heat? Makes you wonder how this infamous band man got where he is. Was he VanSciver's lackey or Knorr's? just wondering out loud here. As for Griffith, you know....the one with the great personality that hides behind "Curley" making the decisions, what will happen to him? Doesn't some of this mess reflect on him too? I heard the saying "you're only as good as your front office" . AMEN!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11th, 2009 09:12 pm |
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i would blame vansciver. the idiot was living in another world during his years in that position. he obviously quit to avoid what is happening now no doubt about that. he drove off all of the high school and middle schools better teachers and principals so place all of the blame there.
i would also blame the people at sussex tech too and the state. how that school is still allowed to do what it does pretending to be an academic charter school rather than a vocational school is beyond me! sussex tech is the reason most of the high schools in this county are not performing especially when it steals all of your best students. the state should force them to take students who want vocational training and change the rules for them regarding academic accountability. it would be better if vocational schools could train those kids for the work world directly and not have to worry about the crap that no child left behind has created.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11th, 2009 05:00 pm |
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| This does not happen very often, but I even felt bad or embarrassed for Curley. It was a tough evening. Things that he was attacked about should have been addressed a couple of years ago. It should not have been allowed to go on this long. A major missing link is that he was trained by someone who is no longer in the district, and now he is the only one to take the heat! If the word "fair" really does exist, I guess that his entire situation is not fair. Who do you all think should be held responsible?
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Posted: Sun Oct 11th, 2009 03:26 pm |
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oh boy details details. i have been on vacation. 
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 03:58 am |
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I have to say that I was surprised by last night's board meeting. I was expecting to witness a presentation that was big and bad and with no opportunity for dialogue. To my surpirse, it was better than watching Leno or Letterman. It was definately the Sussex County Roast of the Year. Can we say "sweaty palms"?
Finally, someone is demanding for accountability. Thumbs up Board.
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 01:48 am |
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| i have to say there is nothing my niece loves more than to here the principal barking on the pa system everyday and sometimes in the middle of classes to harp about stuff. why dont you yell at the kids in the halls instead?
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Posted: Sat Sep 26th, 2009 11:24 pm |
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you have to remember, its a good chance the administrators were never really good teachers. i mean, band? come on. the band may have been good, but you also had good kids back then. look at the band now. i do no know what griffith taught but i am sure he was a ray of sunshine when he did. boy talk about personality
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Posted: Sat Sep 26th, 2009 07:56 pm |
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As a staff, we should have the administrators lay out a sample schedule on how to manage our time and then model it for us. The schedule should start with standing at the door. For example:
- 7:25 a.m. - 7:35 Hall duty at door
- 7:35 a.m. - 7:40 Pledge & Announements (We need to listen to announcements because they are not written anywhere)
- 7:40 a.m. - 7:45 Warm-up/Attendance
- 7:45 a.m. - 7:50 Follow-up on warm-up
- 7:55 a.m. - 8:00 Read essential question, standards and objectives for the day (mention Blooms)
- 8:00 - ? interruptions/pull-outs
- 8:05? Start teaching???????????????????
The daily routine is easier for teachers with one or two preps. Teachers who change rooms. teach PE (locker rooms should not be unsupervised) prepare labs or have three or more preps, should not have to be in the halls between classes.
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Posted: Sun Sep 13th, 2009 08:15 pm |
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| What's going on at the high school? As far as I could tell, there was only one administrator in the building this week. The administrator that was in the building - thumbs up! You are working very hard and have a lot on your back. Thank you for carrying the school - we all notice your effort and appreciate your presence in the building.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 11:53 pm |
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| might they be changing their tune because this is going to be their last year? i think so if nothing improves.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 07:15 pm |
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| One week down and there is one noticeable change since Dr. Knorr has taken on the responsiblity of the high school upon Dr. V's resignation. The major change is in the administration. They have been pleasant and treating the faculty in a more professional manner such as speaking, listening, and even acting concerned. This is such a positive improvement from previous years. We all hope this continues.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 11:05 pm |
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| I guess there is no confusion about Tim now! We need to protect our students and hopefully we can stop this type of activity now. Wished it had been more than two years.
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