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Posted: Fri Sep 25th, 2009 07:54 pm |
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WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO FIND OUT WHO SOS IS???? i don't get it. Rather than discussing the issue at hand you demand to know who SOS is? Come on now.....
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 11:13 pm |
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SOS wrote: awisewife wrote: SOS,
I have been watching your blogs and noticed you have a lot to say. Anyone can type in secret and hide behind their posts, but are you brave enough to post who you really are? I believe a teacher at SHS. Why are you so concerned about ROTC Tim? Did you know him? Were you his friend and are afraid you to may get caught? Or are you jealous at all the attention students gave him at school? Come on, come clean...we all want to know...If you are a teacher at SHS did you teach on the first floor or the second floor?
Dodododo. . . .You sound as though you have some deep rooted issues and a close tie to ROTC Tim. My concern is not with ROTC Tim but with what he did and what is happening between educators and students throughout the county and country. It is wrong and when it becomes out of sight, it also becomes out of the mind. I also have concerns about how some people make excuses for these sick individuals by saying things like "it is hard when girls dress that way" he's hot", or "she kept approaching me". Excuses for this type of activity is dangerous. Five years in prison is not enough. I don't care, when you are a K-12 student, you are a child and should be protected. All educators should protect children no matter what. These children carry these incidents with them the rest of their lives. Educators should be the good guys. If you are one of the individuals who is making excuses for any the individuals who have had inappropriate involvement with a student, then I truly feel sorry for you. Many of us do not like living in a sick world or having our profession tarnished by this behavior. There were a series of things that destroyed Rome, and morality was one of the variables.
You just joined and seemed to have a lot to say or demanded a lot. Where did you go?
Come out, come out, wherever you are. . .
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 05:57 pm |
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awisewife wrote: SOS,
I have been watching your blogs and noticed you have a lot to say. Anyone can type in secret and hide behind their posts, but are you brave enough to post who you really are? I believe a teacher at SHS. Why are you so concerned about ROTC Tim? Did you know him? Were you his friend and are afraid you to may get caught? Or are you jealous at all the attention students gave him at school? Come on, come clean...we all want to know...If you are a teacher at SHS did you teach on the first floor or the second floor?
Dodododo. . . .You sound as though you have some deep rooted issues and a close tie to ROTC Tim. My concern is not with ROTC Tim but with what he did and what is happening between educators and students throughout the county and country. It is wrong and when it becomes out of sight, it also becomes out of the mind. I also have concerns about how some people make excuses for these sick individuals by saying things like "it is hard when girls dress that way" he's hot", or "she kept approaching me". Excuses for this type of activity is dangerous. Five years in prison is not enough. I don't care, when you are a K-12 student, you are a child and should be protected. All educators should protect children no matter what. These children carry these incidents with them the rest of their lives. Educators should be the good guys. If you are one of the individuals who is making excuses for any the individuals who have had inappropriate involvement with a student, then I truly feel sorry for you. Many of us do not like living in a sick world or having our profession tarnished by this behavior. There were a series of things that destroyed Rome, and morality was one of the variables.Last edited on Sat Jun 20th, 2009 06:00 pm by SOS
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 02:49 am |
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SOS,
I have been watching your blogs and noticed you have a lot to say. Anyone can type in secret and hide behind their posts, but are you brave enough to post who you really are? I believe a teacher at SHS. Why are you so concerned about ROTC Tim? Did you know him? Were you his friend and are afraid you to may get caught? Or are you jealous at all the attention students gave him at school? Come on, come clean...we all want to know...If you are a teacher at SHS did you teach on the first floor or the second floor?
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 12:30 am |
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| Any updates on the status of ROTC Tim? Its been quiet.
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 06:05 pm |
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SeafordParent wrote: when I said fun, fun watching him get arraigned in the court where I work! very satisfying!
Again, I still do not see how it could have been fun. Now as a member of the IR school district, you should have viewed it as a sad day for you and your colleagues because someone casted a dark shadow over all of you again.
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 02:10 am |
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| when I said fun, fun watching him get arraigned in the court where I work! very satisfying!
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SeafordParent wrote: despite this incident, we here in seaford have at least one thing to be thankful about. we are not sussex central hs!
that was fun to watch this morning in georgetown.
How could watching another educator doing harm to a student fun to watch. The world is made of a lot of sick people, and it sounds like you have just joined the ranks of sickos. This is not a game or a competition. Why would any school district wish something horrible on another school district. Parents and guardians should feel that they can send their children to school each day and they will be in front of people who will teach and guide them through high school. The goal for teachers is to assist in preparing young people to be independent and strong members of the community. What is sad is that these two young teachers were following the lead from their principal. We all need to pray that there are no more teachers involved in the same situation. Yes, Seaford has had its share of this type of abuse. Each time this has happened, children, families, teachers, and the entire community have been harmed. It is sad that children have to be on guard about the people that should protect them. This goes for several professions: educators, priests, ministers, law enforcers, doctors, and sometimes their own family members. We live in sad times.
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 09:16 pm |
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despite this incident, we here in seaford have at least one thing to be thankful about. we are not sussex central hs!
that was fun to watch this morning in georgetown.
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Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 09:49 pm |
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| It is great to hear from a former student at SHS, ROTC or not. Images can be ruined by opinions and I have witnessed the positives that have come from this program. Congrats on your success, whereever you may be.
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I know that this forum has been idle for some time now but I just recently found out about it. After reading every post that has been made on here, I feel that as a former student at the high school and cadet in the NJROTC program there are a few things that I need to say.
- As a soon to be officer in the United States Navy and a person who personally knew Tim I was shocked as well as disgusted with the incident at hand. I in no way condone what he did, but at the same time I know that the blame in not only on him. As the adult in the situation yes he should have put a stop to it, and that's his fault. However, nothing that the female involved did was forced.
- For those of you parents on here that think the girl is not to blame you really need a reality check. I don't claim to know how things were back in "your day" but I know how things are now. If you think that your kids are innocent and that the school or program is to blame for something happening to them, get real. In reality as somebody who knows from experience, you do whatever you want to prevent "Sexual Acts" or things of the sort from happening, but if somebody or in certain cases two people want something bad enough there's nothing you can do to stop it from happening. For everybody who talked about people getting caught doing bad things on ROTC trips; look at it from this point of view. They got caught because of the people that were there to catch them, and as somebody personally involved with at least one of the incidents mentioned, they were caught and the situation was immediately taken care of by the senior cadets on the trip, while chaperons were being informed of what had happened. Name one other program in the high school where students take control of a situation like that and chose to do the right thing.
- This brings me to my next point; the ROTC program at Seaford high school is one of the best things that a student can be a part of. The program focuses on building students as better citizens, helps them to get involved in the local community, and teaches them values that they can live by their whole life. The in the past couple of years the Seaford NJROTC unit has done more for the community than I thought was feasible. I know people that went into this program with no structure in their life at all and turned their life around. The program re-enforces the importance of higher learning after high school and different ways to achieve this education. I've seen people that I never would have expected to go to college, people who didn't want to go to college, get scholarships through ROTC and have a college education because a possible thing.
- Also as somebody who knew the former gunner Lang and the current gunner, what Rick Norman has done in the last 4 years cannot be matched in the history of the program. He took a unit that was falling apart and turned it into one of the largest programs in the school. He involved the unit in the community more than it has ever been and should be commended for that. If you think that running this program is an easy task then you obviously don't know how complicated things really are. Trying to please the school, the navy, the parents, the community, and the students, is no easy task. I feel that Gunner has done an outstanding job.
- I know this has deviated from the original topic of the incident that caused this "conversation", but I tried to address everything that was brought up by others and I feel that there has been enough about that incident mentioned that everybody probably already has an opinion about it. If you took the time to read this I welcome all responses good or not, you won't hurt my feelings. This is all my personal opinion so take from it what you will. For those of you parents that have a student in the high school, female or not, I would recommend that you talk to your children about joining the NJROTC program it is truly one that will make a difference in their life.
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I have been reading all of the blogs on here… WOW! I would like to put in my comment. I am not a minister, or a deacon of a church, so I will not be putting any specific scripture in here for you to read. If you want to know if I am speaking the truth, get your Bible out and do your homework. I am a Christian and a wife.
To begin with the tragedy that started all of this, I do not condone. The Lord gives us all “FREE WILL”. What we do with this “free will” is up to us, and if we do wrong, then we will suffer the consequences, either here on earth or when we meet our Lord one day. You can ask forgivness for your deeds. The Lord forgives, man don’t!
It is my understanding that Mr. McDorman’s wife is standing by her husband. I commend Mrs. McDorman; she seems to be a woman of God. She took a vow before God to love and honor, in sickness and in health, for better or for worse, forsaking all others. Though all of this must be hurting her, she is not forsaking her husband. She is standing by him. I do not think a woman should be controlled or used as a doormat, like some of these women libbers believe. But when you are not standing by your man, you are out of the will of God! That is one place I, as a Christian do not want to be.
I just wanted to commend Mrs. McDorman. I will pray for all that are affected by this tragic situation.
God Bless!
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ThinkStraight wrote: When you are convicted of these felonies, you will no longer enjoy your monthly retirement pension from your past military service.
Chief
Not so - Military retirees are dropped from retirement rolls only when convicted for national security violations under the Hiss Act (5 U.S. Code, Section 8311-8322.)
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 08:15 pm |
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Young men:
If you have not had a good male role model growing up I am very sorry, if you haven't, then you should listen to what your grandmother and mother have taught you....women/girls should ALWAYS be given 100% respect. If you respect others, you will enjoy respect from them. Next time you see your grandmother, mother, sister or girl friend...tell them they you love them and respect them. Start building a respectful relationship. Young men and women from the school, pray for all parties invovled. You all are young, you must lead by example and always do the right thing even if no one is watching you.
I will pray for the young girl and her family and Tim's wife and boys....these are the people that need the prayer and support today.
For the E-8:
Tim, you have heard the saying "Once a Chief, Always a Chief"...Unfortunately for you, that is not the case. You should be ashamed of yourself. You have disgraced the uniform that you have worn for 20 years. "Out of my mess, and stay out" . When you are convicted of these felonies, you will no longer enjoy your monthly retirement pension from your past military service.
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| I AGREE UNKNOWN SOILDER! I AM SURE THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE MAKING THESE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN JUDGED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER... AND IT DOESNT FEEL GOOD ....DOES IT? JUST LEAVE EVERYONE THE YOUNG GIRL AND THE MCDORMAN FAMILY ALONE! THERE ARE WORST THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE FIGHTING FOR! HOW ABOUT THE LITTLE GIRL 4YEARS OLD WHO WAS "RAPED" HER INNOCENCE GONE? OR HOW ABOUT A 8 YEAR OLD WHO'S FATHER SOLD HER TO PAY OFF A DEBT AND MARRIED TO A MAN WHOM SHE WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH FOREVER! I AM NOT STICKING UP FOR THIS MAN ALL I AM SAYIN IS THAT WHEN I WAS HER AGE I WAS TALKING TO MEN WHO COULD OF BEEN LOCKED UP BECAUSE OF AGE! NONE AS OLD AS TIM BUT THE POINT IS IT WAS IILEGAL! I KNEW AND DIDNT CARE...I AM SURE SHE WAS NOT FORCED TO ANYTHING SHE DIDNT WANT TO! IT WAS UP TO HIM TO KNOW THAT IT WAS WRONG AND SHE WAS 16!
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| Just like any sexual harassment situation, the individuals involved should be put on notice. These kids are confused and a sick adult just add to the confusion. In any of the situations that have taken place at SHS or any other school or organization in this country, the adult should do the right thing. The first time this man was approached, called, or texted; he should have reported it immediately. If he did not know who to report it to, he should have talked to someone that he trusted. Hiding it is the first clue that he wanted to participate. The man should have never returned a text message. This man also thought that he would never get caught. In his sick world, did he think he had a future with this child? In the last few weeks, texting and the ability to trace texted threats has been the focus of DE news. What does he do, he sends a text. The young woman is the victim (no matter what she did). The adult or adults should have stopped her. Yes, it would have been messy. This is not what a parent wants to hear about their child and when someone brings a situation like this one to light; an investigation is conducted. Investigations are not fun either, but a lot less stressful than this situation. This situation has made several people victims. All it took was one adult doing an adult thing. This child needs hep and help now. She is already at risk with her entire life ahead of her. She might not finish her education, and she might not ever have a healthy relationship. What is wrong with NO or STOP; that is all he had to do. Educators receive training in how to handle situations like this one.
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| Jou know what, why dont jou just let dis one go, ok? he gone now, he arrested, he going to court, probably going to jail. it over, leave it be pendejos!
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tired19973 wrote: I have heard about enough! Unlike MOST of you people I know both people. Have you folks ever thought about what all he comments and remarks are doing to this young lady? Did you ever stop to wonder what she is feeling? I THINK NOT! You all are "voicing" your opinions not thinking about her! TIM you are going to HELL but, before you get there Bubba is gonna prepare you for HELL so, don't drop the soap! Knowing the parents of this young lady I'm suprised you haven't meet your maker personally (Satan) and, all you so called followers if you think Tim is the victim maybe you should look in the mirror and really take a long look at yourselves!
I trusted you to guide me on the path of the Lord but, I sure am glad I didn't follow cause I'd have fallen like you and thats a HELL of a long way down! I shared personal things with you and looked up to you as a Pastor. I am deeply hurt by your actions and hope that you understand what you have done. So don't sit around blaming her and telling everyone she seduced you cause your about 150lbs heavier than her! She is a third of your age and half your size! I'm sure you fought her off real hard!!!!!! Do you see the problem yet? Tim you were wrong and its time to pay!
Are we 10 years old people? Do we understand what we are doing to this girl and her family? She has her whole life to look forward to so, LEAVE HER ALONE!
Oh, please… it is my opinion that she knew full well what was taking place. What rock is your head under? I am sure that many currently posting on this board know both parties involved.
Yes, Delaware law will prevail and consequences will be paid by Mr. McDorman. He was the adult in the situation and should have known better. Teenagers/Children are not the innocent ones that we, as adults and even as parents, want them to be. Unfortunately our fast paced, reality show society does not allow for them to be children, ignorant of the despicable, for long. It is my personal opinion that she should share some culpability in this situation. From my understanding, in reading the various published articles to date, that this particular situation was not forced, physically or in a situation of duress, but a consensual act(s). Unfortunately, the laws of consent vary throughout our states. Some of them have appallingly low ages. However, they simply address physical age - not mental maturation.
I am in no way defending Mr. McDorman for his actions. Just merely making my opinion known - that I believe that both should have consequences for their actions. I have also read that he solicited photos of a “minor exhibiting a sexually prohibited act”. Does this mean that the minor victim had to send them? Was there not a choice? What defines them as "sexually prohibited acts"? Perhaps the minor should have asked a parent(s), guardian or another adult they felt comfortable with "is this is a normal request, what should I do?” Please… do I think he intimidated her toward making these decisions? Nope, not for a New York minute.
But again, you’ve heard enough and are concerned for her because I/we am permitted to express my/our thoughts and opinions on the web. I don’t believe that I have been cruel. Afraid she will read it? I’m not. It’s an unfortunate, difficult situation - just maybe she needs to know what community members are thinking – and not just about Mr. McDorman. Some choices in life can lead to some pretty grim consequences.
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One thing is so true (Godly) God is all over this. Just not the way you might think. Do you people really think you have the right to judge someone? I hardly think so, the Bible says "Judge not lest you be judged, and what judgement you use that's how you'll be judged". For you Bubba when you opened your mouth we knew you were devoid of understanding. I sure am glad that my day of judgement will be before Christ and not before man or woman. Jesus said in John: 8:7 "He who is without sin among you, let him (or her) throw a stone at her (or him) first"
Bubba, Godly, and anyone else that thinks he speaks so truthfully about adultery again the scripture says in Matt:5:28 "BUT I say to you , that whoever looks at a woman (or man) to lust for her has already committed adultery with her, (or him) in his heart" Why is it that when a tragedy happens that every one has an opinion to share not thinking what both families are going through. The 16 yr. girl I'll pray for and hope that God will help her get thru this with no effect on the latter years of her life. As for Tim, I'll be praying for him, that he will be able to endure the consequences of his actions. As for Reene' and and the boys I'll pray that God will help them get through the difficult days ahead. The church will survive, that's a promise!!! Tim is still my brother and I am compelled by scripture to love him, sin I hate, but the person we are to forgive, if we expect to be forgiven ourselves.
I'll finish with another scripture I John 2:16-17 "For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father but is of the world. And all the world is passing away, and the lust of it, but he who does the will of God abides forever."
(Oh by the way I'm from the South)
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i too support the rotc, have not said anything but good about it in recent years and it is ashame the admins have not been as helpful. the current rotc commander is better than the last who was drunk on the job all the time.
and now i wish i hadnt supported dr edd since i did not realize who it was. youve been bashing the school since your oldest was there with my middle girl. you went after just about every teacher they both had. you are never happy unless things are the way you want them!
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| As a member of the SHS staff......there are more of us who support you! We will continue to assist you and the members of the JROTC, in any way necessary.
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| I have nothing but contempt and disgust for the ROTC officer who would do this to a 16 year old teenage girl and feel he should and know he will be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I also know he has a higher power to deal with and will one day. My confusion is why was this 16year old girl sending nude pictures to him on the cell phone? Are people saying she was made to do that, I can't see how. Can someone explain?
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I think that we All trusted in Pastor Tim. We all looked up to him and thought we were learning. Honestly, at one point he was a very good Pastor, he just starting "backsliding" as the Pastor would say.
Very good point, Everyone wants to point their finger at the victim when in fact, having a teenage child of myself I couldn't imagine how hard it would be.
Children are children! Adults are Adults!
A child is defined as: an immature childish person
An Adult: a fully developed person from maturity onward.
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I have heard about enough! Unlike MOST of you people I know both people. Have you folks ever thought about what all he comments and remarks are doing to this young lady? Did you ever stop to wonder what she is feeling? I THINK NOT! You all are "voicing" your opinions not thinking about her! TIM you are going to HELL but, before you get there Bubba is gonna prepare you for HELL so, don't drop the soap! Knowing the parents of this young lady I'm suprised you haven't meet your maker personally (Satan) and, all you so called followers if you think Tim is the victim maybe you should look in the mirror and really take a long look at yourselves!
I trusted you to guide me on the path of the Lord but, I sure am glad I didn't follow cause I'd have fallen like you and thats a HELL of a long way down! I shared personal things with you and looked up to you as a Pastor. I am deeply hurt by your actions and hope that you understand what you have done. So don't sit around blaming her and telling everyone she seduced you cause your about 150lbs heavier than her! She is a third of your age and half your size! I'm sure you fought her off real hard!!!!!! Do you see the problem yet? Tim you were wrong and its time to pay!
Are we 10 years old people? Do we understand what we are doing to this girl and her family? She has her whole life to look forward to so, LEAVE HER ALONE!
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I got a phone call tonight from a parent in the ROTC program about the chatter on this website. I am not going to get into name calling or pointing fingers with the exception of one. All I can say is I cannot believe the number of people that have all of a sudden come forward with issues regarding the ROTC program. For S.O.S. and other members of SSHS staff I am ashamed that you, an obvious fellow staff member have never came to me and shared your concern for the ROTC program. In the 4 years I have been here as a part of your team I have worked hard to improve the relationship with ROTC and the rest of the departments in the high school, district and community. I took over a program that was a shambles and have brought pride back to SSHS and the NJROTC program. Have we made mistakes yes I am sure we have but until now we/NJROTC have never done anything to harm a child. Dr. Edd aka (Gene McMillen) you have once again called me out. We did the lawyer thing and you lost. Move on my friend you once were an officer and a gentlemen and I hope you can find a way to remember your core values as a service member. You can throw all the stones at me that you want but do not bash this program. I wrote several letters of endorsement for your daughter and never crossed the line as an officer and a gentle and I would expect the same from you.
For those of you that profess to be christians please back off on our disrict and the McDorman family. Tim McDorman has made his choices and the law and god will judge him, not us.
For those of you that claim to care for the district/students If you would have attended the voluntary staff meeting regarding this matter you would know my stance but I am sure that those of you that continue to bash do not know all. Do I feel some sense of responsibility? Your d**n right I do! I am the senior officer and shoud have seen something but we can all be arm chair quarterbacks and think we could do better? yes we do. My concern is for the 164 remaining cadets and their familes I have in this program.
I will not post again so I ask that you please move on. My door is open to any staff member or adminstrator including Dr. V. who would like to come and discuss their suggestions for improvements to this program. As a society we learn from our mistakes and I too will learn from this.
Lastly, Gene it is time for both of us to move on and do what is best for the remaining cadets and our families. I am proud and happy that your daughter is doing well. She is definately deserving of her accomplishments and position. From one officer to another and one fellow veteran to another we have greater battles to fight in our country and world than this one.
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Mae,
I agree with you. Noone could imagine the feeling that this wome must be going through unless they have to suffer through it themselves. Plus the battle is not about his wife, she needs to go on and worry about her family and getting her house back together. Mistakes are done everyday! A sin is a Sin no matter what size it is, God will intervene! I am recently learning "communcation" In my ministry classes and we really need to know that stereotyping is not good and judgement is only for Our Heavenly Father. I am not vouching for what Pastor Tim did is correct and I feel for the parents and the young lady that this happened to, but he will have to face the Lord.
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| THANK YOU! GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN JUDGE THIS MAN! TRUST ME HE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER ON JUDGEMENT DAY! I JUST THINK THAT IT IS PRETTY LOW TO TALK ABOUT THE WIFE! MOST OF YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BUT ACTUALLY U DONT! AND TO CALL HER DESPERATE THAT IS JUST WORNG! u DONT KNOW WHAT SHE IS OR WHAT SHE ISNT DOING! SHE DID NOTHING WRONG AND WASNT INVOLVED IN ANY OF THIS! I AM SURE SHE IS DEALING WIHT ALOT RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW THE FAMILY IS READING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND THIS LIKE THAT HURT! SOME OF YOU PEOPLE JUST NEED TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF CAUSE THEY ARE PLAIN RUDE....WHAT IS DONE IS DONE AND HE WILL HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE BOTTOM LINE! I BET THE HALF OF YOU THAT KNO THIS FAMILY CALLED ON THIS FAMILY FOR HELP WHEN YOU NEEDED IT AND THEY WERE THERE?! PEOPLE MAKE STUPID MISTAKES AND VERY BAD ONES AT THAT... LIKE I SAID GOD IS THE ONLY ONE HE IS GOING TO ANSWER TO!
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| We all have our own opinions, but you know, God is the ultimate one to answer to.
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timeforfacts wrote: Nope just a parent of a current and prior student who understand's disgruntled teachers such as yourself who is probably in the english department since grammar, spelling and meaning are so important. Forget the real facts just make sure someone spells it right. P.S. They are looking for teachers in many other places. Send your resume TODAY!
they wouldnt be disgruntled if their leadership wasnt completely against them or bullying them now would they, think before you speak!
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DoctorEdd wrote: You can attack me all you wish but good parents will always have power in numbers.
too bad good parents are in the minority right now
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Hey TimeForFacts…. Thanks for the tirade. Remember, don’t get angry, it clouds your judgment. You can attack me all you wish but good parents will always have power in numbers. I agree with you on one subject, though… that there are many more great teachers and coaches at Seaford SHS than there are bad ones. Thank God!!!! I apologize to this forum for not mentioning this fact in my prior submissions. Also, the NJROTC has been well managed in the past. Long due for improvement in leadership, though, and this is apparently due to these recent alleged crimes against females.
Your union attack-their-character-tactics cannot and will not work on the law abiding good parents of Seaford. Remember that it’s a free country defended by courageous people unlike you. Apparently you forgot your own history lesson that one of the most important American freedoms we enjoy is freedom of speech. This forum is for that. So try to control yourself and STICK TO THE FACTS as your moniker implies.
Finally, I assure you your “facts” personally attacking my daughter are very inaccurate. In fact, you must have the wrong person altogether. Furthermore, names ARE important in a forum when discussing those school officers and administrators who are bound by law to protect the rights of our children. Maybe you should consider this when you speak of people “almost losing their jobs” because I assure you that mine is secure. To read your response in this forum I am not so sure about yours.
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HaveFaith wrote: Wow. It's really sad that some people are so quick to forget FACTS. Some people are trying to "prove" that they know someone's character. But what a shame how SOME PEOPLE use others to get things they want (money for bills they are unable to pay, babysitters, a free handout, etc), then try to spread lies. First of all, Tim is not, was not & has never been the Youth Pastor at ESCC. Those of you "former Church Members' should know that, obviously having attended ESCC. Second, he never "insisted" that church member's children spend the night at his house. Him & his wife were trying to help by babysitting. Have my children spent the night at his house? Yes. Do I trust him with my children? YES. Is he a pedophile like SOME PEOPLE are assuming? HMM...If you had "Bad Vibes" about him from the beginning, like SOME PEOPLE claim, then why did you let your children spend the night at his house??? Lack of judgement on YOUR part, I would say. Second, last time i checked, Hooters is a restaurant that women wear tight shorts and skimpy tops, right? Since when is it a crime to go there? Is it a strip club? Didn't think so. Did he force anyone to go? Was your Husband forced to go? I am so tired of SOME PEOPLE trying to turn the focus away from the facts. Wow, doesn't the BIBLE talk about GOSSIP?? How bout LIES?? If SOME PEOPLE have some problems trying to remember the facts, why don't you call the McDorman household and speak to them directly. I'm sure you know the number...after all, you sure burned his phone up when you were down & out and needed him. Guess there is a good reason you stopped coming to church. Doesn't sound like GODLY comments to me.
we dont have to PROVE anything!!! all we have to do to know his character is judge by his ACTIONS.
... before you go and judge what other peoples opinions are, you better get a reality check.
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SOS wrote: A student is murdered to keep him or her quiet.
Okay Chicken Little, put down whatever you are imbibing in tonight.
A little more than a month ago you said "The teachers in our building are constantly helping the students and they are daily advocates for the students. Teachers in our building buy lunches, gas, clothes, and assist in finding housing and jobs for the students. We have even helped our students' parents find jobs. There is a district policy that teachers cannot give students rides home in their personal cars, so they stay after hours until they can help secure a way home for the students. The teachers also furnish school supplies and recycle end of the year locker trash so that students can have a three-ring binder the next fall. "
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BEANGIRL wrote: GUESS WHAT?!! HE MADE THE FIRST TEN MINUTES ON WBOC NEWS TONIGHT. WBOC ANNOUNCED THEY WERE MADE AWARE OF HIM BEING A PASTOR AT EASTERN SHORE COMMUNITY CHURCH IN GEORGETOWN, DELAWARE. WONDER IF THEY ARE AWARE OF HIM TAKING HIS MENS GROUP TO HOOTERS IN REHOBOTH BEACH, DELAWARE CAUSE THEY HAVE THE "BEST HOT WINGS IN TOWN!!!"
hooters.... of course. y isnt that a surprise to me??? i mean, it should be, BUUUUUUUTTTTTTTT sadly ITS NOT.
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wow bubba pakha wrote: and i thought that he ACTUALLY confessed that he did the crime. AND NOW WHAT?!? hes lieing? what a goof. i can not believe this man.
What do you mean? Lying? About what?
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First off I agree that change is in order and I believe that this forum offers people an opportunity to voice their opinion in a safe enviornment. However, I believe that sticking to the facts is important but naming individuals by name regardless of your feelings is crossing the line if not illegal. The ROTC program is a wonderful program and provides an avenue for children of many different cultures and demographics to rise to the top. Not always the best athlete or the best academic student but maybe the best ROTC student.
It is unfortunate that one P.O.S. who has been there less than 6 months can cause so much damage and harm to a community, school and program that we have people throwing stones at anything to bring change. I am always willing to work towards change but it has to be done without destroying others. Those that are due their punishment shall be rewarded.
P.S. I did not say you are a good teacher I said disgruntled. :-)
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You sure know a lot about the intimate details of a student's school record for a parent. If you are a parent of a former student and a current parent, maybe a little bitter because your child might have lost out to a scholarship because of this young woman. It sounds and smells a little like rumors.
If I am such a good "English" teacher in your opinion, why should I leave the district. Many of our students need quality teachers because they are coming from uneducated parents. Again, I think you might be confused. I am not disgruntled: I am sharing facts, not hear-say!
You have to agree, SSD needs a shake-up. The administration has been failing for several years. We all know things go on in the NJROTC programs and our athletics programs. There have been several incidents where inappropriate language is used and comments about inappropriate behavior. Just recently a coach was released for his language and that only happened because a member of his team illegally recorded his comments. The child that made the recording has a parent employed by the school district. The irony of this situation is that this coach has been released at another time for the same thing. If the child's parent had not worked for the school district, this individual might still be coaching.
I hope for you and your child that nothing happens to him or her. The goal for your child and our other students is to graduate from high school and happy, successful futures.
Until someone hurts your child, you cannot know the hurt and hatred you have for the individuals involved. Be careful when throwing stones at parents who care and love their children.
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i totally agree BEANGIRL. tim had to go and get himself into this situation based on HIS choices. he made them and now hes gonna pay the price. its his own fault
and i thought that he ACTUALLY confessed that he did the crime. AND NOW WHAT?!? hes lieing? what a goof. i can not believe this man.
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| Nope just a parent of a current and prior student who understand's disgruntled teachers such as yourself who is probably in the english department since grammar, spelling and meaning are so important. Forget the real facts just make sure someone spells it right. P.S. They are looking for teachers in many other places. Send your resume TODAY!
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timeforfacts wrote: Dr. Ed or shoud I say Mr. Ed the talking Horses %$@ you have made the choice to come out of the crack you live in or under and again commit defamation of character more than likely from your place of employment. Where you nearly lost your job in the past for similar practices. You can blame the district all you want but your personnnel pathetic excuse of a man and a a parent prohibitted you from facing the truth that your daughter was in danger of the districts referral process and possibly losing her scholarship and you went to any length including attempting to destroy staff and administrators. Maybe something should be brought to the Academy's attention on your daughters less than acceptable character as an officer. Also please in your next post explain your own ntegrity flaws in stating that you have served in all four branches of the military. Canoe clubs do not count! Please sir get a life and move on because you dealing with nothing close to your own paygrade.
Excuse me, I left the "a" out of chaperone. I am confused, are you confusing personal with personnel? They have two totally different meanings.
Unless you were part of Doctor Edd's daughter's situation, why would you suggest contacting the Academy? I think someone else should get a life. Why are so many of you in the business of harming kids instead of helping them. I thought that was the role of an adult.
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The school board is still hand-picked puppets! Look at the people who sit around the table. A couple of them are just caught up on their egos.
Doctor Edd, I understand what you went through and why you did what you did in the end. You had to do it for your daughter so that she could graduate and be safe away at college. Davis' letter to the editor had to be a little hard for you and your family to swallow. "The safety of our students", what a joke. What he did to your daughter is done on a regular basis with other students and staff. He and his administrative team get individuals behind closed doors and will say almost anything to threaten or scare students and staff. Power is gained when there are no witnesses. We have students who think they have been expelled from school, but the truth is they were threatened out of school and then there is no hearing or due process.
Sometimes, as parents, we just want to put these things behind us and help our children focus on the positives in their futures. This situation might make you want fight again for what is right since your daughter is safe, happy, and successful. Criminal charges should be brought to each member of the board, and each of the administrators that you named, and the instructors in the NJROTC program. The state's justice department should do an extensive investigation. If these people knew about this issue or your daughter's case and neglected to do anything about it, it is against the law. It is illegal to not report child abuse. It is illegal to shut the door and trap someone in a room, especially a child. They should lose their jobs and serve time.
I hope that other students and their parents contact Doctor Edd. This time a student was raped, what is next? A student is murdered to keep him or her quiet. Desperate people do desperate things. We see this in the news everyday, Seaford is not any different.
There are several sex offenders in the school district. Have any of the parents checked to see if any are active NJROTC members. I would not want my daughters on weekend trips with these individuals. Do all the chperones have background checks on file for NJROTC? The program seems to have its own set of rules and regulations.
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| Dr. Ed or shoud I say Mr. Ed the talking Horses %$@ you have made the choice to come out of the crack you live in or under and again commit defamation of character more than likely from your place of employment. Where you nearly lost your job in the past for similar practices. You can blame the district all you want but your personnnel pathetic excuse of a man and a a parent prohibitted you from facing the truth that your daughter was in danger of the districts referral process and possibly losing her scholarship and you went to any length including attempting to destroy staff and administrators. Maybe something should be brought to the Academy's attention on your daughters less than acceptable character as an officer. Also please in your next post explain your own ntegrity flaws in stating that you have served in all four branches of the military. Canoe clubs do not count! Please sir get a life and move on because you dealing with nothing close to your own paygrade.
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DoctorEdd wrote: I agree, Two Cents... I wished I would have continued. For the safety of my daughter I walked away. But here are a few bits of additional information; As a result of my calling foul against them, the Seaford administration hired an attorney. Like any amateur attorney they played dirty. Their attorney officially contacted my boss and attempted to discredit my character and integrity. It didn’t work (in fact I was promoted) and we had a good laugh at their expense.
I am not trying to sound condescending, but repeatedly Seaford SHS representatives laughed at me, my wife, and my daughter, meeting after meeting as I followed their parent grievance process. Basically, they dared me to take it further an indicated to me they were above retribution. Davis especially, went out of his way to corner my daughter in his office with the door closed as all this was going on. As you can imagine, my daughter was petrified. She had done nothing wrong. By that time my attorney had issued an order to Davis, and all Seaford SHS representatives (including all NJROTC officers and non-commissioned officers), to contact me before any non-emergency contact was made with my daughter at the school. It was barely 24 hours and Davis called my daughter into his office, out of an important class, to exhibit his authority in defiance of that order.
Of course I was infuriated beyond belief. The issue with McDorman could have been prevented if the leadership of Seaford SHS was honest and professional. The only person I apologize to is to the mother of the female victim of rape. However, I will offer this; anyone wishing to discuss this issue in private with me is welcome to do so. Please contact me via this resource (Newszap.com). Trust me; there are enough parents who have been in the same situation here in Seaford as enraged as I. My daughter is safe at college and maybe now is the time to get rid of the current administration and hire some real academic professionals to run the SHS who truly have our young girls’ best interest in mind.
was any of this ever brought before the school board? if it was, I would guess it wasa few years ago when the board was loaded with rubber stamp people. i would bring it up again now!
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| Yes, Yes, Great Post
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| What I didn't understand is the comment "McDorman" was NO LONGER with the district. And he backed down a Day before he was arrested?
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I agree, Two Cents... I wished I would have continued. For the safety of my daughter I walked away. But here are a few bits of additional information; As a result of my calling foul against them, the Seaford administration hired an attorney. Like any amateur attorney they played dirty. Their attorney officially contacted my boss and attempted to discredit my character and integrity. It didn’t work (in fact I was promoted) and we had a good laugh at their expense.
I am not trying to sound condescending, but repeatedly Seaford SHS representatives laughed at me, my wife, and my daughter, meeting after meeting as I followed their parent grievance process. Basically, they dared me to take it further an indicated to me they were above retribution. Davis especially, went out of his way to corner my daughter in his office with the door closed as all this was going on. As you can imagine, my daughter was petrified. She had done nothing wrong. By that time my attorney had issued an order to Davis, and all Seaford SHS representatives (including all NJROTC officers and non-commissioned officers), to contact me before any non-emergency contact was made with my daughter at the school. It was barely 24 hours and Davis called my daughter into his office, out of an important class, to exhibit his authority in defiance of that order.
Of course I was infuriated beyond belief. The issue with McDorman could have been prevented if the leadership of Seaford SHS was honest and professional. The only person I apologize to is to the mother of the female victim of rape. However, I will offer this; anyone wishing to discuss this issue in private with me is welcome to do so. Please contact me via this resource (Newszap.com). Trust me; there are enough parents who have been in the same situation here in Seaford as enraged as I. My daughter is safe at college and maybe now is the time to get rid of the current administration and hire some real academic professionals to run the SHS who truly have our young girls’ best interest in mind.
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