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bigbear from the north
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 04:46 am |
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| LOL, point well taken. Though I think tacky is still best word. Chrome on the cars was great, but I'm still partial to stainless steel for the diners.
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Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 01:53 pm |
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| Some of us have fond memories of chrome. On cars, and diners, especially.
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bigbear from the north
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Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 03:22 am |
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| LOL- that actually did occur to me.
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Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 02:03 am |
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| Maybe that's why the Smyrna Diner was sent back for restoration.
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bigbear from the north
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Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 12:57 am |
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| Unless there is going to be a tacky chrome diner at each of these circles, I'm afraid it simply will not be anything like Jersey.
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Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 07:09 pm |
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Someone wrote: I think I figured it out about the state putting in these traffic circles. Now, the state knows we are getting a lot of Jersey folks moving here, so I think they want them to feel at home by putting these in. Now since all these folks are moving here and now the local areas can't keep up with the up keep of the state and towns, they will then have to add the sales tax and higher state taxes, so as to make feel more like home.
All you got to do is look across the former soy bean and corn fields and see the Monopoly game board style houses and can see that someone from New Jersey would feel right at home.
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Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 11:29 am |
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Duncan Idaho wrote: "Blessed are they that travel in small circles for soon they shall be called big wheels." (Author unknown) This may be more truthful than one would think!
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Posted: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 10:43 am |
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| I think I figured it out about the state putting in these traffic circles. Now, the state knows we are getting a lot of Jersey folks moving here, so I think they want them to feel at home by putting these in. Now since all these folks are moving here and now the local areas can't keep up with the up keep of the state and towns, they will then have to add the sales tax and higher state taxes, so as to make feel more like home.
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 03:04 pm |
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Well we cant have anyone build just to suit the locals and loose money, can we? That kinda defeats the profit motive. Profit is the engine that keeps the economy going. Would you build a business that's gonna loose money just so you can please the local residents idea of something purdy to look at? Gotta have both, I say.
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 11:51 am |
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The developers of these shopping centers do not seem to care about the shoppers.
It is all about how much they can squeeze into one area, it is all about the mighty
dollar. Take the Camden Walmart for instance. Once they developed all the surrounding pads and those businesses opened, the congestion and manuevering
in and out of Walmart lot is horrendous!
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Old Smyrna
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Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 04:53 am |
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| I bet if those circles were ovals, and a little bigger, the complainers could compare them to NASCAR and have nothing but praise for them. Or maybe not. But it is interesting watching a tractor trailer try to get around them. But I agree, somebody wasn't thinking when they made them that small. Gonna be a lot of money spent on landscaping and road signs when that shopping center gets going full speed.
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Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 07:51 pm |
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"Blessed are they that travel in small circles for soon they shall be called big wheels." (Author unknown)
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Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 11:10 am |
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killercharlie wrote: I think the circles are a good idea..........unless you're a truck driver trying to make deliveries. I watched a couple of small semis trying to enter the circles and it was a major curb hopping experience. Maybe as the development gets further along they'll add a service road to/from the rear for trucks.
I am beginning to think the developers designed the circles to be small and
narrow because they knew gas prices were going through the roof and we
would all be traveling in small cars, motorcycles, scooters and bicycles!!
However, KC, they did not take the poor delivery guys into consideration,
I agree 100%
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Posted: Sat Aug 2nd, 2008 02:30 am |
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| I think the circles are a good idea..........unless you're a truck driver trying to make deliveries. I watched a couple of small semis trying to enter the circles and it was a major curb hopping experience. Maybe as the development gets further along they'll add a service road to/from the rear for trucks.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 09:49 pm |
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| Rent that movie- It's a classic! They would love it, I know mine do!
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 09:31 pm |
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| I want to say that so bad everytime I have my kids in the car and we go through a circle, but I know they wouldn't get it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 08:50 pm |
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| We already have our own "Wally World" Distribution center. The Griswolds would be at home here.
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| I can just imagine the Griswalds visiting Smyrna. Rusty falls for a clerk at the Wawa, and Clark goes to Mike's and knocks over a row of Harleys.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 11:52 pm |
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I was totally gonna do that but figured nobody would get it. This is a hip crowd.
-c
OnlyMe wrote:
JN- Great reference, thanks for the laugh!
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 11:46 pm |
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Right now you have a convenience store, a liquor store, and a bank. Wait til it expands and tell me the same thing. BTW, which one are you at several times a week?
eastbounder wrote:
I go through the circle several times a week and don't have any problem with it. It seems like a pretty good idea to keep the traffic moving. Its also one less stop sign to deal with. As far as being dangerous, well its a crap shoot out there anyway. You might get it there or get creamed in your own driveway.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 11:21 pm |
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| JN- Great reference, thanks for the laugh!
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 09:19 pm |
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| Look kids, Big Ben and Parliment!
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 04:09 pm |
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Circles stink for actual road traffic, but for shopping centers they are ok. The speeds are much less so the danger like there is on a multi-lane road isn't there.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 10:49 am |
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| I go through the circle several times a week and don't have any problem with it. It seems like a pretty good idea to keep the traffic moving. Its also one less stop sign to deal with. As far as being dangerous, well its a crap shoot out there anyway. You might get it there or get creamed in your own driveway.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 04:01 am |
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I doubt traffic circles are the Federal Standard. New Jersey has been spending millions to eliminate them because they are considered dangerous by their DOT.In another dozen years or so they'll tear them all out down here and raise your registration fees to pay for it.....Progress, ain't it grand?
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 12:48 am |
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| Let's see the new turn right only road ways, well I can tell you of these new right turn only they aren't working, let me see how many times have I all ready seen folks making that left, because they wanted too.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 09:39 pm |
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| Most states got rid of circles as a way to control traffic years ago. I guess we truly are lower, slower.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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| I think it's a cultural thing that's going to require some education. Us old timers figure the fastest way from point A to point B is a straight line. Apparently the new math has overtaken us. The wife and I went to Hardee's last night, and some young dipstick was going around and around the circle there, apparently confused about beng able to make a right at any time and leave the confusion behind. He must have gone around 8-10 times before he either got dizzy or figured it out. I guess Forest Gump's Mom was right, "stupid is as stupid does"!
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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 10:27 am |
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The trick here is to get out of the circle somewhere unless of course you forgot something.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 05:04 pm |
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You people do not get out much. The designs of Simons Corner are the new standard for traffic control. Look around the state, all the new shopping centers are basically designed the same to have traffic continue to move (right turns only) and funnel to a light on the main roadway (the reason for circles). It is to avoid situations like the Smyrna Mart (Acme). Look at the new buildings (commercial, medical), not in shopping centers. The entrances and exits are designed for right turn only, to prevent cross traffic (those turning left and crossing oncoming traffic or those leaving the business and turning left, crossing lane traffic). The designs of all traffic, even in commercial centers are approved by DELDOT, to their new standards. It might also be based on federal standards. Regardless, someone loves circles.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 11:44 am |
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Smyrnite wrote: I have seen at least half a dozen cars ignore that light by the Simons corner center and fly out onto Rte. 13 southbound - and I have seen several shoot straight across! The Acme parking lot is also awful - Try to pull out of the Acme gas station and not get hit. The STOP markings on the ground are faded so people ignore them.
I agree, exiting the Acme parking lot is very difficult and down right dangerous. I
would stop in to shop more often but find myself avoiding the place because of
the maneuvering issue. I was almost struck ,not once ,but twice while walking
in that lot !! ( Referring to leaving Acme) People backing up without looking.
The Valero gas station and 7 11 are just as bad for maneuvering and exiting.
A word of caution, when using the PNC drive thru on Main St, be aware of the
kids that zip through that area with their bikes. I almost hit one of them, not
because I was exiting too fast...THEY WERE SPEEDING WHILE RIDING ON THE
SIDEWALK and before you know it they are THERE!!!!! It is near impossible to
see them coming.
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 12:09 am |
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| We all know that the planners and designers are working for the investors/developers, to minimize costs and maximize profits. Where are the plan reviewers?? Who are they?? Whose interest are they representing?? Somebody at the town level is approving these plans.
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 12:03 am |
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| Welcome all these new folks, they have really helped the town, or I will say the so called planners. I still have a problem with the Glenwood and Main light. Yeah but it is better then Wilmington.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 11:34 pm |
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| I have seen at least half a dozen cars ignore that light by the Simons corner center and fly out onto Rte. 13 southbound - and I have seen several shoot straight across! The Acme parking lot is also awful - Try to pull out of the Acme gas station and not get hit. The STOP markings on the ground are faded so people ignore them. Also, coming off Carter Road by the new Rite Aid, you have to go about a half mile to get to the Food Lion. Good luck though, as that light barely allows one car through at a time. Sheesh. Progress.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 11:24 pm |
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Whoever designed the new shopping center needs to have their head examined.
The state of New Jersey and others have been in the process of doing away
with the traffic circles that they have,.
Now for some crazy reason, the state of Delaware has them cropping up everywhere!
The one they put in Rehoboth only made the congestion worst.
I am currently going to the new shopping center, visiting WAWA and
Hardee's, but once the shopping center is complete, with all the pad sites filled,
I will not shop there because the circles will be a nightmare once there is a lot
of stores and more traffic.
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