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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 06:08 pm |
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Thanks for the link to the Superfund sites. Here is a link to the superfund site in Smyrna. I had the name wrong it is NOT Metal Masters. It IS Tyler Refrigeration. Here is the direct link
http://www.epa.gov/reg3hwmd/super/sites/DED980705545/index.htm
It will also allow you to pull up a map to see where it was located for all the new people in town.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 04:08 pm |
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| GP what difference does it make who. In those days they could. I just want to know is it safe there now. Just how hard is that, well I guess hard. Really don't need all this other stuff on here. Is it safe there now, there might have not even been a problem. But there could be.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 04:09 am |
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"Someone" knows the names of these big chemical companies and what? Keeping it a secret or what "Someone"? If so, why post? 
To see a list of EPA Delaware Superfund sites go to this url:
http://www.epa.gov/reg3hwmd/super/de.htm
Someone wrote: OK folks i put this up here again. I know of BIG Chemical companys that use to bring there waste CHEMICALS here and Middletown. Not some town cleaning company. Now big 55 gal drums. You all seem to be missing what is written, you think you know and your replies are in left field.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 12:59 am |
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Someone wrote: OK folks i put this up here again. I know of BIG Chemical companys that use to bring there waste CHEMICALS here and Middletown. Not some town cleaning company. Now big 55 gal drums. You all seem to be missing what is written, you think you know and your replies are in left field.
Sorry. I guess I misread. What big chemical companies? How did they get away with this? Not sure if this is true but is this why one of the sites next to metal masters (not sure of the exact location) but not far from one of the wells that we use as drinking water was supposedly flagged as a superfund site. I have heard this over the years from neighbors and such but is it true about a superfund site within town limits? Or was that actually the dump site?
A lot of unanswered questions. These all may just be conjecture also. Who knows?
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 12:22 am |
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| OK folks i put this up here again. I know of BIG Chemical companys that use to bring there waste CHEMICALS here and Middletown. Not some town cleaning company. Now big 55 gal drums. You all seem to be missing what is written, you think you know and your replies are in left field. Last edited on Thu Aug 14th, 2008 12:24 am by Someone
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 12:01 am |
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| They used the chemical and solvents to start the fires.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 11:17 pm |
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Someone wrote: All right can't get an answer. So will let out a little, now all you newbys won't know this, and maybe most of the oldies won't remember, but so many years ago, the TOS found traces of Dry Cleaning chemicals in the water supply, now on some of the drums that were put in that dump, and I mean drums, not 4oz cans, was just that stuff. Now that made me think back then and as you can see still making me still think. Now that wasn't the only thing put there. So I will ask again, does the TOS know what's there, please don't bring up the state on this. I really think the TOS should know. Have a nice healthy day.
I knew alot of stuff was emptied there but never new there were chemicals. Looks like the weeds and stuff seem to still grown tho. I know you dont want to ask state but did town own this dump. I thoght it was the state dump.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 09:48 pm |
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| I'm concerned about the old junk yard that is being developed right now, the Juanita court deal in Spruance city. My friends worked there and dumped car battery acid and oil and antifreeze into the ground. I know the EPA was called to investigate but the report "got lost". I sure hope that report said that the ground was clean for building on it.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 06:39 pm |
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If there were huge barrels or containers of dry cleaning fluid emptied there that is bad. There have been warnings about clothing stored in the dry cleaning bags when brought home from the cleaners. They recommend leaving the clothing outside of the bag and hang in garage or other protected outdoor area until the fluid residue and odors dissipate. I would hate to think how the actual cleaning fluid that was? dumped there has polluted our underground aquifers.
What dry cleaners were in town at that time? Who owned them?
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 05:38 pm |
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| All right can't get an answer. So will let out a little, now all you newbys won't know this, and maybe most of the oldies won't remember, but so many years ago, the TOS found traces of Dry Cleaning chemicals in the water supply, now on some of the drums that were put in that dump, and I mean drums, not 4oz cans, was just that stuff. Now that made me think back then and as you can see still making me still think. Now that wasn't the only thing put there. So I will ask again, does the TOS know what's there, please don't bring up the state on this. I really think the TOS should know. Have a nice healthy day.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 11:04 am |
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| Well it's after 1 AM and the bars are closing and GP is posting. What you think.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 05:27 am |
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yeah right - puke me out a window
Approximately 8 of these posters are from the same hillbilly family....get over it..go shoot rats in Lewes if that's what turns you on.... 
Old Smyrna wrote: Taats - I remember the dump being further east than the school. I think it would be just east of the walking trail, between the trail and N Main Street. Looking from the Glenwood development, it'd be on the north side of Greens Branch, almost straight off the end of N School Lane.
Hartlyboy - I agree, a .22 was much more sporting that shotgunning 'em. They're quick little buggers!
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 02:30 am |
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| DENREC would be the ones to ask.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 02:08 am |
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| I know it was open to the public, who owned it, doesn't make a difference, but thanks for the info. Who owns it now also doesn't make a difference, do I ask the school district, what's in there and is it safe. I am sorry to keep this up, but as I keep saying I know some bad stuff went in there, and as I said it wasn't bad in those days, but today you can't even have it. Now maybe enough wasn't put there to make a difference, not sure about that, but as I said i know weekly trips there, and it wasn't paper they brought. So who does get to answere this? State, Town or school. If there is still some bad stuff there, I think everyone should care. And if no problem, even better, but who is going to tell me that.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 01:38 am |
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Someone wrote: I not saying that is the problem. I don't know, but we don't seem to get any info from the town. And we did have ms mayor say that she would answer things. And as i said before, she most likely doesn't know, but my question is she trying to find out.
I hope someday I don't have to say, didn't I bring this up way back when. That will be after they find out there is something real bad in there.
FYI it's not the old town dump, it's the old state dump, which was open to the public. Now it belongs to the Smyrna School District.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 12:22 am |
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I not saying that is the problem. I don't know, but we don't seem to get any info from the town. And we did have ms mayor say that she would answer things. And as i said before, she most likely doesn't know, but my question is she trying to find out.
I hope someday I don't have to say, didn't I bring this up way back when. That will be after they find out there is something real bad in there.
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 08:53 pm |
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| This is why so many people in Smyrna have cancer I bet.
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 07:16 pm |
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| Well there ya go! Big chemical companys from upstate. Whole different bunch of people up there. Wa-a-a-a-y too snooty to shoot a rat. It's much more efficient to go chemical on them instead. Hey, it worked for Saddam and his buddy Chemical Ali for a while there, didn't it? Why "one bullet, one rat" when you can pollute the whole dump and get 'em all? For years to come. And what's a little cancer or other nasty stuff among friends?
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 11:00 am |
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| hartly, now I know you must be thinking what could be so bad from all us folks taking our trash to the dump. Without getting into the who's and what's that went in there, I will say some real big chemical companys use to bring there waste chemicals to the dumps of Middletown and here in Smyrna. They were weekly runs. But I don't think they shot any rats.
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 06:30 pm |
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| You are obviously het up about 'bad stuff' that went into the old dump so tell us what it was and who put it there. Might be useful in tracking some answers for you.
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 12:54 pm |
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Well no answer. Ms mayor this is just from something you wrote this morning "We try to stay on top of things and your comments are very helpful". I had a question, now I guess most of you folks don't give a damn, but as I said I know of some of the suff put in there, and not good. Now everything may be all right now, maybe there really wasn't enough to be bad, but tell me.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 11:15 am |
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| I seem to have missed the folks of the TOS answer. Must be under another topic. But this might be one of those ignore it, it will go away. I am sure they don't know, but somebody does, I hope.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 02:23 am |
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Taats - it is BIG. It's that whole corner from the walking path to N Main and from Duck Creek Pkwy to Greens Branch. It's right up to the back of the house on N Main. Most of that "jungle" on the corner is the old dump area. That probably explains why it's never been developed or at least cleaned up. Wonder what people think when the're traveling to the middle or high school, or to the ballfields, when they see that mess? Houses on the corner about to fall down, and across the street a jungle. Coming into town on N. Main, at the intersection with Duck Creek Pkwy, look at that downed tree on the right. At that height and angle, imagine going off the road and into that! It'll be one quick stop for somebody.
Someone - I know we tap danced all over and around your question, but shootin' rats was fun! I doubt the town wants to claim any glory for this one, you'll probably end up FOYA-ing DNREC to find out what's really down there. Hope you get a straight answer and let us know what you find!!!
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 12:06 am |
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| Really glad I have brought back all those good menories, yes the good old days in the town dump, now you couldn't get any better then that, right boys, but I still haven't gotten an answer about what still is in the ground. I do know what some things were put there, and they weren't from the local folk, so just how is it down there. Town that's a call on you here, you answered some questions here, try this one. How about it Ms mayor, or Mr Mullen, since you do post, not picking on you two, but you seem to put your name to your posts, so why not. Last edited on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 12:13 am by Someone
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 11:00 pm |
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Old Smyrna wrote: Taats - I remember the dump being further east than the school. I think it would be just east of the walking trail, between the trail and N Main Street. Looking from the Glenwood development, it'd be on the north side of Greens Branch, almost straight off the end of N School Lane.
Hartlyboy - I agree, a .22 was much more sporting that shotgunning 'em. They're quick little buggers!
Old, I know that the dump was not too far on the left after turning left on to Duck Creek Prkwy from N. Main Street. Middle School, but I thought that some of the school land had once been dump at one time. I think that a portion of at least the new Middle School was built on dump lands. I could be wrong though. I just remember that it seemed like that dump was huge. Of course, that was a long time ago.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 11:27 pm |
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| Never did do any riding in the borrow pits but I do recall doing some shooting down in there. Paper target stuff and an occassional can. Walls seemed to contain the noise well and made a safe backdrop but I recall it got hot because there wasn't much of a breeze down there. Man, that was a long time ago. The kid I used to shoot with is a retired grandfather now [kinda like me, but younger].
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 04:51 pm |
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WHOOP-A DE FRICK A-LICKIN' DO! Somebody finally agreed with something I said on here. Damn, it's a good day! Now all we need is go shoot a few rats (4-legged) to round out the day.
Hey Hartlyboy - did you ever ride a bike (or motorcycle) in the old borow pits where the softball and baseball fields are now? That was a blast, too!!!
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 11:09 pm |
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| Taats, I agree with Old Smyrna. The dump was further east of where they built the school.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 10:07 pm |
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Taats - I remember the dump being further east than the school. I think it would be just east of the walking trail, between the trail and N Main Street. Looking from the Glenwood development, it'd be on the north side of Greens Branch, almost straight off the end of N School Lane.
Hartlyboy - I agree, a .22 was much more sporting that shotgunning 'em. They're quick little buggers!
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 02:07 am |
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Someone wrote: Here is one from the past, need a town update on ground water in and around the old town dump. Why I ask, i do know many years ago when it was open there were companys from up north bringing chemicals there and dumping them in the old dump, at the time don't think the chemicals were considered bad, but I know now they are. For you new folks the old dump was just east of the new middle school, where all the trees are and no houses. Just like to know if things are Ok there.
I thought that at least a portion of the school was built over the old dump. I can remember my dad taking us there to dump our trash. It was not unusual to see people walking over the garbage and picking through it. It was a smelly place.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 03:57 am |
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Yeah, the place was frequently burning . The smoke made target aquisition more difficult some time but it was generally just papers and trash burning. I never saw chemicals or anything on fire and don't remember any drums or other containers of stuff we didn't recognize.
someone, you are correct that some bad stuff will allow vegatation to grow but the really bad sites I've seen don't. Supposedly DNREC or it's predecessor would have done some tests before it was capped. Perhaps that would be a starting place to ask about how it was tested [or if it was]. There were many of those sites around the County and I ones I saw as they closed them down generally involved bringing in dump trucks of fill and then putting in a monitoring well like the site they closed down on the Kenton-Hartly Road. That used to be be a County dump for the residents of that area.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 12:38 am |
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| I remember seeing the plumes of smoke that came from that dump. I would guess that alot of stuff was burned. Before that the dump was on N. Main at Duck Creek Bridge which also caught fire ocassionally.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 11:15 pm |
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| hartly, that doesn't say a thing, trees and grass grow at all the sites. I know of some of the chemicals that were dumped, again back then they weren't considered bad, but are on the list today as you don't want to mess with. I asked a question has it been checked out and if so what does it say. Trees on the site, doesn't answer anything.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 10:17 pm |
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Ah, I found a kindred spirit. I used to shoot rats and bottles down there at night, too. What a different world we have today. We'd probably be thrown in jail now for sitting on the hood of an old Ford with a .22 and a cold brew and waiting until you heard a rustle before pulling the lights on... Those critters were quick and it wasn't sporting to use shotguns and anyway that would probably have had someone calling the law and they'd have tough questions about who bought the beer...and they'd confiscate it , too by gum...
Someone, I think the fact there are trees growing there now is an indication that whatever was dumped wasn't all that deadly.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 09:22 pm |
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| I think that is a sewage pumping station.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 09:13 pm |
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| I remember going there to shoot rats (yeah, I know, redneck, huh!) when I was MUCH younger and there were buckets of plastics and vinyl being dumped there, but I thought it was from the old Leeds Travelwear. It was leaching out and getting into the Greens Branch stream all the time. Now, what's right downstream from the old dump right on that stream? Isn't that a Town of Smyrna pumping station? That dump wasn't cleaned up, it was capped over. That crud is still in the ground, and if it's in the ground it's in the water.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 05:40 pm |
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| Here is one from the past, need a town update on ground water in and around the old town dump. Why I ask, i do know many years ago when it was open there were companys from up north bringing chemicals there and dumping them in the old dump, at the time don't think the chemicals were considered bad, but I know now they are. For you new folks the old dump was just east of the new middle school, where all the trees are and no houses. Just like to know if things are Ok there.
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