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Servenvolley wrote: Equal- you're concern for Ayers is a justifiable one. But after reading a Washington Post atricle.
The only hard facts that have come out so far are the $200 contribution by Ayers to the Obama re-election fund, and their joint membership of the eight-person Woods Fund Board. Ayers did not respond to e-mails and telephone calls requesting clarification of the relationship. Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:
Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
Do you think Barack is a sleeper who may secretly be planning the mother of all terrorist plots with William Ayers?
Certainly not a sleeper by any means. It is just the fact that Obama exhibits poor judgment and immaturity and a naivete by maintaining a close relationship with Ayers. More than that, he claims him as a friend. There are many hard facts that the Washington Post failed to print. The age of Obama bears no relevance as to when Ayers committed his acts of destruction and violence. He remains to this day unrepentant but yet Obama chose to remain in a relationship with Ayers all these years.
Bixby wrote: Despite all the controversy surrounding barrack Obama’s friendship with onetime “Weatherman” militant Bill Ayers, the Democratic nominee’s most powerful political ally in Chicago again refused to disavow or criticize Ayers. Obama himself maintained a relationship and a friendship with Bill Ayers even serving on a community board with him. This despite the facts that he was aware of Ayer’s past and unrepentant activities.
“No, I know Bill Ayers and he’s a good man,” Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of the infamous Richard J. Daley) told the press. (John Gizzi)
Bill Ayers was a major figure in the anti-war movement (that now resides in the Democratic Party) and radical left in the 1960s. He was the militant leader of the Weatherman faction (sometimes referred to as the Weather Underground) of the far left Students for a Democratic Society. He, with his also radical leftist wife, Bernadine Dohrn decided to duck underground in 1969 and then resurfaced one year later. Ayers admitted his part in the bombings of the NYC Police Headquarters building in 1970, blowing up a statue honoring Chicago police casualties in 1970, also a participant in the Days of Rage riots in Chicago in 1970, blowing up the Capitol building in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972. Ayers is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois in Chicago. To this day he remains unapologetic for his past actions and even declared “that he regrets not having done more.” Obama now rejects Ayers’ past actions but refused to disavow his friendship. And you lefties find anything about Sarah [palin to talk about like teen daughter's pregnancy or her stance on the "bridge to nowhere" or her ability to perform her job because she has a large family. Now here is something important about the relationships of a guy you want to give the keys to the White House to.
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| Interesting take on the Ayers relationship. I don't think anyone is suggesting that Barry O helped Bill carry bombs when he was eight years old. The eyebrows are raised over the fact that he knew the man's unrepentant past and , as an adult, chose to associate with him.
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Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2008 06:48 pm |
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Equal- you're concern for Ayers is a justifiable one. But after reading a Washington Post atricle.
The only hard facts that have come out so far are the $200 contribution by Ayers to the Obama re-election fund, and their joint membership of the eight-person Woods Fund Board. Ayers did not respond to e-mails and telephone calls requesting clarification of the relationship. Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:
Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
Do you think Barack is a sleeper who may secretly be planning the mother of all terrorist plots with William Ayers?
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OnlyMe wrote: How kind of you to equate liberal and nasty. Did I say Republicans were buttheads? No. I did not.
This has ME lying awake at night...
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
You sure are lying.... Well, we didn't have to wait too long to expose the rationale behind Anne Kilkenny's letter to the editor. Even the leftward biased CNN brought out that Kilkenny is a Democrat and therein lies the reasoning for her post.
WASILLA, Alaska (CNN) -- It was the night before Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was to accept the Republican vice presidential nomination in a nationally televised speech, and Becky Moore couldn't sleep a wink. She paced around her room and prayed before sending Palin an e-mail wishing her good luck.
"I was so nervous for her," said Moore, a dietitian who lives in Palin's hometown of Wasilla. "I felt like she was my relative, like she was about to prove herself to the country."
As much as Moore was hoping for the best, there was a part of her that didn't want to share her governor and former mayor with the lower 48, a term Alaskans use to refer to their distant countrymen with a mix of playfulness and disdain.
"No matter what happens, we win. If she becomes vice president, the rest of the country will see what a great leader she is. If she loses, we get her back," Moore said.
The night after Palin's speech, Moore and friends from her book club gathered at Wasilla's Pandemonium bookstore to discuss the Jeffrey Eugenides novel "Middlesex."
But instead, the conversation centered on the poise and bravura with which Palin explained her views on resource development -- another Alaska term for oil and gas drilling -- family values, fighting corruption and reducing the role of government in private lives.
"As a longtime Alaskan, she makes me proud. She's sophisticated and intelligent. She can wear bunny boots and high heels and be comfortable in both," said Paula Esche, a retired teacher who moved to Alaska from Wisconsin in 1963.
Indeed, with each proverbial crack Palin has made in Alaska's political landscape, the story of her rise from hometown girl to political upshot has been retold over and over again in the Alaskan press and some national publications, including Vogue.
To many, Palin's iconic status is well-deserved, considering that the high school basketball star, former beauty queen and television journalist rose from Wasilla City Council member to Alaska's first female governor in less than 14 years.
In Wasilla, a railroad town nestled among the mountains of south-central Alaska, she has earned a reputation for pursuing agendas with such doggedness that critics and supporters alike are compelled to acknowledge her fighting spirit.
Palin's family moved to Alaska in 1964, when her father took a teaching job in Skagway. She was 2 months old. Her parents settled in Wasilla a few years later.
Family friend and Matanuska-Susitna Borough Mayor Curt Menard said he would have never guessed that Palin's tenacity would bring her this far. Nevertheless, he is not entirely surprised by her success.
"She has always gone after what she wants with great intensity and careful judgment. She works for what she feels is right," said Menard, who is willing to take some credit for Palin's winning smile as her childhood dentist. A table in Menard's sunroom is littered with family photos and high school yearbooks that bear testament to the local folklore surrounding Palin.
"We did a lot of hunting and hiking together when the kids were little," said Menard, gesturing to a picture of Palin as a young teen with her sister and Menard's sons, surrounded by moose carcasses in a room for curing big game.
Menard's collection of Wasilla High School yearbooks contains pictures of Palin on the honor society, student council, cross-country team and, most notably, as co-captain
and point guard of the 1982 championship basketball team.
In high school, Palin also met her future husband, Todd, who moved to Wasilla in his senior year. In a story that has also charmed its way into the hearts of Palin's constituents, they married at the courthouse in nearby Palmer in 1988 under the eyes of two witnesses they pulled from a nearby senior center.
Palin entered local politics as a Wasilla City Council member in 1992, serving two terms before she campaigned against incumbent Mayor John Stein on a platform of fiscal responsibility and pledges to break up the "good old boys" network.
During her mayoral campaign, many residents of Wasilla fondly recall that she knocked on doors to introduce herself and talk about their concerns. After becoming mayor, she often held community forums in coffeehouses.
Within her administration, however, controversy flared up. After she took office in November 1996, she asked for letters of resignation from six department heads based on allegations that they were still supporting the former mayor. She also fired Police Chief Irl Stambaugh, who unsuccessfully sued her for wrongful termination, according to court records.
Though many favored her no-nonsense attitude and open door policy, Wasilla substitute teacher Anne Kilkenny compared the atmosphere surrounding Palin to a popularity contest. Kilkenny, a registered Democrat who moved to Wasilla from Seattle, Washington, in 1981. This weekend, Kilkenny, one of the few identifiable Palin critics in Wasilla, wrote an e-mail to friends criticizing Palin's track record that rapidly spread to blogs and Web sites. (And Only Me bought it and ran with it!)
Praise and criticism followed Palin's ascendance to the governor's office after she won the state Republican primary against incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski and took the general election in 2006.
Earlier this year, when Palin signed off on a contract for a Canadian company to construct a gas line linking Alaska with the lower 48, she earned accolades from Alaskans who favor the development of natural resources. Others, however, said they believe Palin rushed the application process in an effort to win over voters.
"We're giving away finite resources when we should be trying to get the maximum value for them," said Jay Cross, a retired Alaska Guardsman who is a volunteer for Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama's campaign. "Why the rush to create a pipeline that's not going to Alaska tidewaters and creating jobs for Alaskans?"
For those without strong political allegiances, the mere presence of an Alaskan on a major party ticket is enough to raise interest. "I just think it's cool that someone from a small town like Wasilla can get as far as being nominated for vice president of the United States," said T.J. Montanez, 22. "Maybe now the lower 48 will stop thinking we all live in igloos. Last edited on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 08:53 pm by Bixby
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I don't know why Democrats choose to put the Obama/Ayers association on the "back burner", since this is much more disturbing then anything that has been "dug up",so far, on McCain or Palin.
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Hot Flash wrote: Apparently Palin has foot-in-mouth also, she got money for the "bridge to no where" from the federal government, then changed her mind and spent it on other things. Now she says she was against the bridge. Can't be both ways or is it now I am for it, I want money, now I am against it, I want money for something else.
A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for 4 more years of what we have, and my opinion is that it has not been good years. GWB has already promised so much money to Georgia, I say what about the US, there is plenty of need here. Now what you say is totally untrue. You are propagating a Democratic lie. She never obtained any money for the bridge. She was initially for the idea but when she found out what the true costs were, she rightfully rejected it. Do you have a problem with that? BTW, exactly what was the "something else" that the alleged money was spent on? I'm sure you'll find an answer by logging onto the DailyKOS or some other leftist blog.
While you are complaining about politicians obtaining money for needless projects, have you complained about Obama obtaining public funds for unrepentent terrorist William Ayers and his organization whose board of directors Obama sat?
And as for Georgia. America sends money to dozens and dozens of countries. You specifically pointed out Georgia. Would you rather have the money sent to Russia so Putin can re-establish the Soviet Union under Communism? Even Obama supports (to a limited degree) aid for Georgia and containing Russian expansionism. Where do you get your material?
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| Biden / Palin Debate: Thursday, Oct 2nd
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| Proud to be a Joebama Mama!
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Ah. The "Vetting" prospect, which before today was an unknown in smyrna let alone in delaware. you know, the democrats invented it to piss you off. How are they doing? An I love the fact that I can do this from where I am. In fact, I am saddened that you have no idea, or any children -- where I am now. give it a shot, and are you in a BED tonight? best wishes.
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Smyrna Mom wrote: I do not think that Biden is a good senator or a nice person. He is lacking in honestly and integrity. I think it is abhorent that he knowly repeats lies in order to gain sympathy for his wife's death 36 years ago.
I loved Palin's speech. Her children were adorable. Yes even the pregnant daughter who had the misfortune to get pregnant out of wedlock. Palin is fiesty, experienced, intelligent, and, I think that she will prove to have those qualities that Joe Biden lacks which are honesty and integrity.
A breathe of fresh air. A beautiful family. My confidence in our political system to somehow find the right candidate has been restored.
Apparently Palin has foot-in-mouth also, she got money for the "bridge to no where" from the federal government, then changed her mind and spent it on other things. Now she says she was against the bridge. Can't be both ways or is it now I am for it, I want money, now I am against it, I want money for something else.
A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for 4 more years of what we have, and my opinion is that it has not been good years. GWB has already promised so much money to Georgia, I say what about the US, there is plenty of need here.
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OnlyMe wrote: How kind of you to equate liberal and nasty. Did I say Republicans were buttheads? No. I did not.
This has ME lying awake at night...
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
You sure are lying.... Well, Kilkenny's assessment must mean more than the reality of the electorate. How have you vetted this story that you take it as gospel? Curious.
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How kind of you to equate liberal and nasty. Did I say Republicans were buttheads? No. I did not.
This has ME lying awake at night...
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
You sure are lying....
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80% approval rating in Alaska. Your friend must be in the liberal, nasty 20% who don't like her. Oh well. The population of Alaska is approximately 700,000, so that means that she has the approval of 560000 people.
Biden ran for presidental spot on democratic 2008 and only got about 8000 votes. No comparison
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| Ironic. I just heard from a friend who lives in Alaska and he said he knows Ms. Palin and thinks she is a nasty person and a horrible governor.
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I do not think that Biden is a good senator or a nice person. He is lacking in honestly and integrity. I think it is abhorent that he knowly repeats lies in order to gain sympathy for his wife's death 36 years ago.
I loved Palin's speech. Her children were adorable. Yes even the pregnant daughter who had the misfortune to get pregnant out of wedlock. Palin is fiesty, experienced, intelligent, and, I think that she will prove to have those qualities that Joe Biden lacks which are honesty and integrity.
A breathe of fresh air. A beautiful family. My confidence in our political system to somehow find the right candidate has been restored.
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Talk about a typical Republican talking point! "worldwide failed policies of socialism" Great way to try to throw off the scent but it's not working. Likening Democrats to socialists is akin to likening Republicans to facists.
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Hot Flash wrote: A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for more failed GWB policies. The people of this Country are tired of the failed policies of the republican administration. It is time for change folks and it will not happen with McCain/Palin leading the US. Same old Democrat talking points. Please explain how the worldwide failed policies of socialism will help all of America? I'm interested in your viewpoints.
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A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for more failed GWB policies. The people of this Country are tired of the failed policies of the republican administration. It is time for change folks and it will not happen with McCain/Palin leading the US.
VOTE DEMOCRATIC ON NOV. 4TH 2008! GWB had 6 years with a republican congress and failed the people of the US.
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Joe Biden on the front page of News Journal. For some reason he still can't get is facts straight. Read the article 1972 Crash Still Haunts Driver's Family http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS02/809040379&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL
Joe Biden in 2007 was still insisting that his wife and baby daughter were killed by a drunk driver. According to Joe's own newspaper, The News Journal, Joe Biden is lying. The truck driver, who died in 1999, was never found to have done anything wrong other than be at the wrong place at the wrong time. It is speculated that Biden's wife just did not see the truck that he was driving. It was also stated that he absolutely had NOT been drinking.
This came as a shock to me, as I have heard Biden repeat his lie many times over the years. He seems to love embelishing his truly tragic story as reported in the News Journal article which quotes: The New York Times reported the 2007 crowd at the University of Iowa grew silent as Biden gave his version of what happened that day.
"Let me tell you a little story," The newspaper quoted Biden as saying. "I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly -- and I never pursued it -- drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.
Biden told a similar story when addressing an audience at the Bob Carpenter Center at the University of Delaware a few days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
"It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them," Biden said, according to a transcript archived on his Senate Web site.
I guess Joe Blow just loves to put on a show no matter how he hurts other people and familes who also suffered emotionally in this tragedy.
Joe Biden is not someone that represents my values. I say vote McCain and PALIN! Sarah Palin is quite the package. She has got it all. Experience, Looks, charisma, Looks, family values, LOOKS, scrappiness, LOOKS. She obviously has grit. The liberal media tried to destroy her confidence by attacking her family (quite the low blow). Well, they only spurred her on. She came out swinging. As she said, the only difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull is lipstick. Watch out Joe.
So her daughter is pregnant. This happens in a lot of families. So, she has a child with special needs and is seeking a demanding job. Joe Biden had children with critical needs and who now had no mother, yet that did not stop him from being sworn in at the children's hospital bed two days after the accident.
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Hot Flash wrote: As I said before PTG, my how you Repuks like to twist things!
Just to make this EQUAL, the Democrats should have a nickname too, don't you think. How about Dem-Asses, i.e., donkey? Democrats do believe in equal rights, don't they? Huh!
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Equal Rights wrote: Hot Flash wrote: I still would not vote for someone that has different beliefs than I have. The VP Candidate Palin has a 4 month old bably with special needs, as well as other children, apparently raising them is not in her book. There is no way she could be home raising her children and doing a good job in politics.
This is my opinion of course!
What if her husband were to stay home with the children or any other responsible individual that they know or hire? Would that be a problem for you, also. After all, why shouldn't the mom be able to go out and work and leave the father or a nanny at home with the kids if the family is approving of what she is doing and the responsibility that she would be taking on. Do you realize how many mother's, nowadays, are not able to stay at home and raise their children because of the need to go out and work? Do you want to start criticizing them too? If any American Citizen feels like they will be good for America and they and their family are willing to make sacrifices for their beliefs and their country to do this then I say go for it. And Hot Flash what exactly are your beliefs? Do you still believe that a woman's place is only at home to suckle the kids and bow down to her husband's every wish and command?
I think families everyday have to make tough decisions as it relates to how they will raise their kids. Most families need to be dual income households because of their fiscal responsibilities. In choosing a political candidate, I feel it is imperative that each person choose a person who is more aligned to their view of the issues than whether or not a spouse made the decision to work for a living. I wish my wife didn't have to work, but math is pretty easy.
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Hot Flash wrote: I still would not vote for someone that has different beliefs than I have. The VP Candidate Palin has a 4 month old bably with special needs, as well as other children, apparently raising them is not in her book. There is no way she could be home raising her children and doing a good job in politics.
This is my opinion of course!
What if her husband were to stay home with the children or any other responsible individual that they know or hire? Would that be a problem for you, also. After all, why shouldn't the mom be able to go out and work and leave the father or a nanny at home with the kids if the family is approving of what she is doing and the responsibility that she would be taking on. Do you realize how many mother's, nowadays, are not able to stay at home and raise their children because of the need to go out and work? Do you want to start criticizing them too? If any American Citizen feels like they will be good for America and they and their family are willing to make sacrifices for their beliefs and their country to do this then I say go for it. And Hot Flash what exactly are your beliefs? Do you still believe that a woman's place is only at home to suckle the kids and bow down to her husband's every wish and command?
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SmyrnaGuy wrote: I think the point of the pregnant 17 year old is that if Palin can't manage her own household, how will she help manage our country? Any other parents in the spotlight like this take all kinds of heat when one of their kids makes a mistake. Why is this any different? Throw in the ultra conservative spin, now her 17 year old is going to be forced to marry an 18 year old. Neither of them are ready for that. They made a mistake and shouldn't be forced to live with it for the rest of their lives. There are other options even if you don't approve of abortion. Put the baby up for adoption and let the kids put it behind them. Now that's dumb. Real dumb. It's like saying that Hillary couldn't handle her own household because of all the affairs that husband Bill had, maybe the worst of which was having a young woman sitting under his desk. Now how do you know that the marriage is being "forced?" Do you have any specific inside information or do you rely on leftist spin, like Keith Olberman or Mark Shields? You failed to mention the option of loving and raising that child as countless others have done.
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| Obama's mother was also pregnant at age 17, he was raised by his grandmother and he turned out to be fine gentleman and politician. Hopefully he will be elected our next president. Give the Palins the respect that they deserve.
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| I'm sure the Palins and all the other working parents are grateful for your concerns about whether their kids are getting enough attention because of their outside committments....
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| Can Palin do the job, sure she can. You can do anything as long as you put your mind to it. Right? However, I fear this will be done at the expense of her husband & children.
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| The bigger question is; how does any of this have a bearing on whether she will be a good VP? So what if her daughter got pregnant. That doesn't mean she failed as a parent. And it has little to do with the way the child was raised. Things like this do happen. Young girls have been getting pregnant forever. Who cares? With all the crooked stuff politicians do, this is an insignificant issue and should be left alone.
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I think the point of the pregnant 17 year old is that if Palin can't manage her own household, how will she help manage our country? Any other parents in the spotlight like this take all kinds of heat when one of their kids makes a mistake. Why is this any different? Throw in the ultra conservative spin, now her 17 year old is going to be forced to marry an 18 year old. Neither of them are ready for that. They made a mistake and shouldn't be forced to live with it for the rest of their lives. There are other options even if you don't approve of abortion. Put the baby up for adoption and let the kids put it behind them.
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iBlog wrote: yun1095 wrote: iBlog wrote: Just seen on CNN that Palin's 17 year old dght is 5 mos pregnant. Palin says she is very excited to be a grandparent! Hope she has time to fit all this in...
http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=839564461&pl=840152210.xml&plc=840152210&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml
Obamas mother was also pregnant at age 17....
Did Obama's mother run for Vice President? No, he ended up being raised by his grandparents!
Is Palins daughter running for vice-president? NO!!! I Guess at the end everybody will be fine...
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I don't care about her 17 year old being pregnant, that's a personal issue for her family to deal with. What I do care about is Mom's a hottie who likes to hunt and fish and ride her snowmobile! Geeze, if she had a bass boat and a nice pickup truck she'd be perfect!!!!!!
As for her having quality time with her famiy if elected, that's a personal issue for her and her family. Vote on her merits (or lack there of), not to try to legislate her family role.
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 03:26 am |
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yun1095 wrote: iBlog wrote: Just seen on CNN that Palin's 17 year old dght is 5 mos pregnant. Palin says she is very excited to be a grandparent! Hope she has time to fit all this in...
http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=839564461&pl=840152210.xml&plc=840152210&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml
Obamas mother was also pregnant at age 17....
Did Obama's mother run for Vice President? No, he ended up being raised by his grandparents!
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For a partial list of multi-lingual countries go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multilingual_countries_and_regions
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I think if you count up all of the countries in the world and discern the % of people in each country who are bi-lingual or multi-lingual, you will find that it is an elite few. I think that you will also find that the majority by % are located right here in the USA. Japan might be the exception.
leapforward2gethelp wrote:
We are one of the few countries on earth whose citizen's do not and are not required to speak more than one language. One language was fine when travel abroad was very uncommon and when we were going through a period of isolationism but the world has changed. Broaden your horizons and learn another language or two if for no other reason than for just plain fun.
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| My grandfather left Spain in 1920, came to America, gave up his Spanish citizenship, just to join the Merchant Marines. He became a Master of all Seas, and died heroically in battle in WWII. The LEAST I can do to honor him and what he did for us, as Americans, is to respect his heritage and mine and know the language. For ME, it's a matter of honor and respect. I never said all Americans HAVE to know more than one language. I think they SHOULD, but I only know how much it has helped ME in my careers.
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Someone wrote: But why did all those folks leave and come here. Maybe we can leave here and go to another place to learn to speak their language
Maybe for the same reason your ancestors left their countries and came here..Last edited on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 09:33 pm by yun1095
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Leap , we are one of the few countries that speak only one language? Not my experience , except for Europe, where you can drive for an hour and be in another country. Even the time I spent in England, I rarely heard anything other than what passes for English over there used. No signs in Spanish or Dutch. In every place except France you could make your way knowing only English and the Frenchies just pretended not to understand you just to be aggravating.
In a country [US] that has survived and prospered on the assimilation of many cultures, the use of our common language has been one of the lubricants to pull us together. To deliberately create Babel is not a recipie for continued greatness, IMHO.
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Posted: Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 09:00 pm |
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| But why did all those folks leave and come here. Maybe we can leave here and go to another place to learn to speak their language
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Posted: Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 08:35 pm |
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| We are one of the few countries on earth whose citizen's do not and are not required to speak more than one language. One language was fine when travel abroad was very uncommon and when we were going through a period of isolationism but the world has changed. Broaden your horizons and learn another language or two if for no other reason than for just plain fun.
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Oldguy wrote: Nothing wrong with speaking multiple languages and foreign heritage. But, this is America!! Speak English!! Read English!! Out of all the different people in this country, why is it that Spanish is the only other language on most of the signs around?
Could be that Hispanics are now the largest minority with 39.9 million people. But could be also commercially:
The steady surge of Hispanics has changed the fabric of life in the United States, from food on grocery shelves, movies and the bedsheets children sleep on to the rosters of professional sports teams:
• Nickelodeon's bilingual Dora the Explorer is the No. 2 pre-school show on commercial TV, leading Anglo as well as Hispanic tykes to sleep on Dora sheets that say Buenos noches. A fraction of the audience for George Lopez, one of ABC's top comedies last season, is Hispanic. And Fox, already the top major network among Hispanics, is adding two Hispanic family comedies this fall.
• Hispanics represent 15% of movie-ticket sales, higher than their share of the population. The box-office careers of Cameron Diaz (Charlie's Angels), actress-singer Jennifer Lopez (Maid in Manhattan) and director Robert Rodriguez (Spy Kids) are evidence of Hispanics' broadening appeal. The 2002 Academy Awards celebrated the year of the Hispanic, after Latin artists and Hispanic-themed work collected 10 nominations, including six for a biography of Mexican painter Frida Kahlo, played by Salma Hayek, a Mexican.
• Latin radio stations account for 7%-8% of the radio audience, up from 5% five years ago, according to Airplay Monitor editor Sean Ross. More stations are sprouting in places outside Florida, Texas, California and New York. There's a Latin FM station in Raleigh, N.C.
• The Latin explosion in mainstream pop music is evident in the success of Ricky Martin and Marc Anthony, who began their careers as Spanish-language singers. Colombian singer-songwriter Shakira and Jennifer Lopez are multi-platinum sellers.
• Time Inc. launched People en Espanol in 1997. Circulation has since doubled to 414,000 to make it the top-selling Spanish-language magazine in the USA.
• Hispanics are starring in sports they had never been associated with before. The National Hockey League has its first Hispanic, Scott Gomez of Alaska, rookie of the year three years ago. Last year, speedskaters Derek Parra and Jennifer Rodriguez became the first Hispanics to win Winter Olympic medals. Parra is Mexican-American, and Rodriguez is Cuban-American.
Hispanics are also the largest minority in Major League Baseball. Alex Rodriguez, a Dominican-American born in New York and raised in Miami, is the game's highest paid player at $25 million a year. Arturo Moreno became the first Hispanic owner of a team when he recently bought the Anaheim Angels. Moreno has said he doesn't want to be thought of as a minority owner. When asked a question in Spanish at a news conference, the fourth-generation American answered in English. "The first thing is I'm an American," he said. "I'm proud to be a Mexican-American, but as far as being the first minority, I think most of us are immigrants from some place."
• The National Basketball Association this past season became the first major U.S. sports league to offer national TV coverage on Spanish-language stations. Later this year, ESPN will launch a full-time sports channel in Spanish. For the 2008 Summer Games, NBC will carry 134 hours of Olympic coverage in Spanish on its Telemundo network.
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Posted: Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 12:48 pm |
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| Nothing wrong with speaking multiple languages and foreign heritage. But, this is America!! Speak English!! Read English!! Out of all the different people in this country, why is it that Spanish is the only other language on most of the signs around?
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| I may be wrong but I think Only's point is that clearly he speaks English AND Spanish. I never heard him say we should make Spanish the 'one language for the US', just that it's good to know more than one language.
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iBlog wrote: Just seen on CNN that Palin's 17 year old dght is 5 mos pregnant. Palin says she is very excited to be a grandparent! Hope she has time to fit all this in...
http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=839564461&pl=840152210.xml&plc=840152210&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml
Obamas mother was also pregnant at age 17....
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| English should be the lannguage of this country but tell that to Home Depot and Lowe's and the ATM at First National Bank of Wyoming.
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| So you are saying Democrts are staunch defenders of States rights? BTW English is the language in this country. Last edited on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 01:30 am by Playing the Game
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| I will not dignify your jibes as you clearly just want to pick a fight- "Democrats want to abolish states rights?" Sheesh. Go sleep it off and start clear headed in the morning. Last edited on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 12:55 am by OnlyMe
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You don't appear to live in Alaska. I guess you aren't qualified to answer fr Alaskans who make their own rules.
In America, we call it States Rights. Something most Democrats would love to abolish so we could all be vanilla Liberal Europeans.
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You are right- the age of consent is 16 in Alaska. It's 18 in Delaware. I am still uncomfortable knowing MY daughter would be having sex at 16 - there are too many emotionally unprepared children having children out there to add to the problem. I guess espousing abstinence doesn't work.
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 11:19 pm |
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| Concuerdo que respeto su opinons a pesar de nuestras diferencias y está contento que usted está aquí! Es bueno tener a una persona' normal' en esta cosa!
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OnlyMe wrote: Otra vez- "Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence."
Debemos hablar sobre idiomas y la educación. No debemos hablar sobre candidatos políticos. Nuestras opiniones son diferentes. Es aceptable discrepar.
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