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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 02:14 pm |
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They are all the same wrote: Two and a half cents wrote: Two Cents----Try calling the mayor. Did you get voice mail? No problem leave a message she will call you back. NOT!
Try Raynor, Thornton, Evans. Raynor once did call back and it only took 3 weeks. Let me know how these calls work out for you.
To tell you the truth the only council member who ever returned my phone calls and went so far as to give his cell number in case of more problems was Mark Schaffer.
I have said this on more than one occasion. Schaeffer always made himself available. He made his home and cell numbers available. In the event I had to leave a message, he always always returned my call.
Probably because you are married to him
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:25 am |
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Two and a half cents wrote: Two Cents----Try calling the mayor. Did you get voice mail? No problem leave a message she will call you back. NOT!
Try Raynor, Thornton, Evans. Raynor once did call back and it only took 3 weeks. Let me know how these calls work out for you.
To tell you the truth the only council member who ever returned my phone calls and went so far as to give his cell number in case of more problems was Mark Schaffer.
I have said this on more than one occasion. Schaeffer always made himself available. He made his home and cell numbers available. In the event I had to leave a message, he always always returned my call.
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 02:13 pm |
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Passing Time wrote: most of you are so off the hook it is not funny. you don't care what happens to the town you care about complaining on this "forum" if you attended meetings you would have correct info instead of mouthing off incorrect info, if you attended the sub-committee meetings you would know how the Council gets their info. I have attended some sub-committee meetings and more Council. Now that the election is over you are still not happy because everyone does NOT agree with Pat. This is government and that is how it works. Pat's way is not the only way.
I somewhat agree with you. Some posters do use this forum to get their information (right or wrong) and to b***h and moan about what is wrong or right with the Town. I do attend meetings and I have attended committee meetings. I care very much about this town and the neighborhood I live in. I do not agree with everything Pat does, sometimes she hems and Haas too much or demonstrates the lack of ability to "get along" with others on council. She along with some other council members need to leave personal agendas or "oneupmanship" at home and work together as a body for the good of the town. This is after all why they ran in the first place.
Pat is the mayor like it or not. She was voted in by the people who did make it out to vote. We need to respect the office and so do the council members seated with her. At the last meeting, everything she suggested was voted down. You did not need to be a rocket scientist to know this was a preplanned response to anything she offered.
I don't know how we can get people to attend meetings or get out and vote. I do agree some just don't care.
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 01:35 pm |
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| most of you are so off the hook it is not funny. you don't care what happens to the town you care about complaining on this "forum" if you attended meetings you would have correct info instead of mouthing off incorrect info, if you attended the sub-committee meetings you would know how the Council gets their info. I have attended some sub-committee meetings and more Council. Now that the election is over you are still not happy because everyone does NOT agree with Pat. This is government and that is how it works. Pat's way is not the only way.
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 12:35 pm |
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Someone wrote: Folks I was just trying to point out, you just don't get the people to do it. They don't vote, in most cases they even know we have an election, let alone who and what is at stake.
You are so right on the mark.
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 10:54 am |
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| Folks I was just trying to point out, you just don't get the people to do it. They don't vote, in most cases they even know we have an election, let alone who and what is at stake.
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 05:26 am |
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Two and a half cents wrote: Someone wrote: Now the problem with that, we would still only have about 300 folks out to vote for it. Maybe letting the folks who go to the meetings make the call. They seem to be the only ones who care, maybe not the right care, but care.
Did you know that at that same meeting someone spoke about raising the real estate taxes and lowering the electric and most of the people in attendance stood up and applauded for that? Look up the minutes of the last meeting and you will see who suggested that. Does this now mean the hand full who attend meetings should also make this call?
I have attended Council meetings for many years. A very good friend, the late George Caley muttered one evening after Council, "This Town is run by the minority."
He was not happy about a vote that took place after a few people came to state their opinions. It has been this way ever since I can remember.
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 10:36 pm |
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| WELL, AS USUAL THIS FORUM IS WAY OFF TOPIC, WHAT THE HELL DOES WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE POSTING HAVE TO DO WITH "BILL PRESSLEY-THE NORTH CAROLINA REDNECK FOR MAYOR" ????
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 10:25 pm |
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Barney Rubble wrote: cottoncandy wrote: If you choose not to be a part of the public who show up to give an opinion nor call the Mayor and Councilmen, then your opinion in this forum should carry no weight with the Town's decision.
In the final partagraph, the mayor seemingly invites input from the public. She did not seem to rule out opinions expressed in these forums as unacceptable. In fact, if I wanted to devote the time to do so, I believe that I could find her direct invitation to the public to use these forums to do just that.
If you can find a quote where the Mayor asks opinions from this forum, then I would respectfully disagree with her. I would not want an opinion from other than those who live in Smyrna, and from what I read here, IMO most of those who post here do not live in Smyrna.
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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cottoncandy wrote: If you choose not to be a part of the public who show up to give an opinion nor call the Mayor and Councilmen, then your opinion in this forum should carry no weight with the Town's decision.
The material pasted below is from a post alleged to have been published by Pat Stombaugh on Saturday, November 29, 2008 at 11:57 A.M. I have edited out parts of it. In the final partagraph, the mayor seemingly invites input from the public. She did not seem to rule out opinions expressed in these forums as unacceptable. In fact, if I wanted to devote the time to do so, I believe that I could find her direct invitation to the public to use these forums to do just that.
... I didn't want our citizens to be ashamed to tell people they live in The Town of Smyrna. I have kept many issues out of the news media, trying to cooperate and solve them behind the scenes, so that our difficult times would not be smeared all over the state.
I believe you deserve answers and you need to know my views to make informed decisions, therefore, I have decided to answer some of your concerns.
... My opinion, I do not believe we should borrow any more money when we do not know where we will get the revenue to pay it back (unless the town continues to raise taxes).
5. The Town of Smyrna's revenue is based mainly on taxes and electric. If this is the only revenue we can depend on, than the only answer is we must cut expenses. I have expressed this for my entire term. I am told I am wrong, the Town of Smyrna is different than the rest of the country, the TM's words "there is plenty of spendable money in our town".
What you, our citizens, need to give us (mayor and council) is direction for what you want and do not want. We do need to hear your voice so we know how the majority of our citizens (at least the ones that take the time to express their views to us) want us to vote. Without this information, we can only vote the way we think you want us to vote and there are 7 very different opinions on council.
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 07:54 pm |
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Barney Rubble wrote: --- just like she was fixin to do for the $6,000,000 loan the town might get.
Actually that was for the $6,300,00 wastewater loan and did not include the $3,700,000 drinking water loan. That totals about $10,000,000 of additional debt. That means about $400,000 per year additional cost to be collected from residents per year for 40 years to pay off the loan.
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 05:40 pm |
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Someone wrote: Now the problem with that, we would still only have about 300 folks out to vote for it. Maybe letting the folks who go to the meetings make the call. They seem to be the only ones who care, maybe not the right care, but care.
Did you know that at that same meeting someone spoke about raising the real estate taxes and lowering the electric and most of the people in attendance stood up and applauded for that? Look up the minutes of the last meeting and you will see who suggested that. Does this now mean the hand full who attend meetings should also make this call?
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 04:51 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: cottoncandy wrote: To complain in this forum and to dress down the Mayor because she asked for the people's opinion, because they will ultimately pay the bill when it comes due, is really what is "childish".
The mayor asked and received the opinion on an additional $6,000,000 of debt for the town from the handful of people present at that council meeting and effectively said that unless those with a different view make it their business to contact her, she is going to be favorable toward it. I do not recall that the town gave official public notice that the mayor intended to take a "show of hands" vote to gather information on which to predicate a decision involving an additional $6,000,000 of debt, to be repaid by not just those in attendance, but by every property owner in the town.
If you had attended the Public Hearing that was advertised, you could have been counted (or not). The decision was not made based on a show of hands but to get the public's opinion. If you choose not to be a part of the public who show up to give an opinion nor call the Mayor and Councilmen, then your opinion in this forum should carry no weight with the Town's decision.
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 01:47 pm |
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cottoncandy wrote: To complain in this forum and to dress down the Mayor because she asked for the people's opinion, because they will ultimately pay the bill when it comes due, is really what is "childish".
The mayor asked and received the opinion on an additional $6,000,000 of debt for the town from the handful of people present at that council meeting and effectively said that unless those with a different view make it their business to contact her, she is going to be favorable toward it. I do not recall that the town gave official public notice that the mayor intended to take a "show of hands" vote to gather information on which to predicate a decision involving an additional $6,000,000 of debt, to be repaid by not just those in attendance, but by every property owner in the town.
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Two Cents wrote: NativeDel wrote: Who asked for a show of hands at a council meeting? That is ridiculous; the council represents all the people in Smyrna, not just who is at the meeting. They have to vote what is good for the entire town, vote their conscious. That is so childish; ......
From the Sun-Times:
At the close of the hearing, Stombaugh asked the people in the audience who supported the loan to raise their hands, and then asked those who opposed it to do the same. A clear majority of those in attendance raised their hands in support of the proposed loan.
After the meeting, Stombaugh said she plans to do what the people want concerning the loan.
“Everyone that was here raised their hand for it,” she said. “If people are against it, they better get a hold of me.”
Why do we consistently suggest that you come to the Council meetings to let your opinions be known? As I have said before, the 2008 tax increase passed because no one came forward to object. To complain in this forum and to dress down the Mayor because she asked for the people's opinion, because they will ultimately pay the bill when it comes due, is really what is "childish".
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 12:52 pm |
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NativeDel wrote: That is so childish; maybe we should put every council vote up for referendum. It sounds like someone cannot make up their mind and is unfit to be a council person or mayor.
Eenie, Meenie, Miney .... Hey, we elected her .... AGAIN????Last edited on Sun May 17th, 2009 12:53 pm by Barney Rubble
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 12:03 pm |
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NativeDel wrote: Who asked for a show of hands at a council meeting? That is ridiculous; the council represents all the people in Smyrna, not just who is at the meeting. They have to vote what is good for the entire town, vote their conscious. That is so childish; maybe we should put every council vote up for referendum. It sounds like someone cannot make up their mind and is unfit to be a council person or mayor.
Here is the "show of hands" item posted on the "Smyrna Town Government" topic, copied to here.
Geezzzzzz!!! Is this really how the town business is conducted? Do a count of hands shown by the relatively few people who are in attendance at the meeting to determine whether to borrow $6 million? What have you folks elected as mayor & council?
From the Sun-Times:
At the close of the hearing, Stombaugh asked the people in the audience who supported the loan to raise their hands, and then asked those who opposed it to do the same. A clear majority of those in attendance raised their hands in support of the proposed loan.
After the meeting, Stombaugh said she plans to do what the people want concerning the loan.
“Everyone that was here raised their hand for it,” she said. “If people are against it, they better get a hold of me.”
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 11:52 am |
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| Now the problem with that, we would still only have about 300 folks out to vote for it. Maybe letting the folks who go to the meetings make the call. They seem to be the only ones who care, maybe not the right care, but care.
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| Who asked for a show of hands at a council meeting? That is ridiculous; the council represents all the people in Smyrna, not just who is at the meeting. They have to vote what is good for the entire town, vote their conscious. That is so childish; maybe we should put every council vote up for referendum. It sounds like someone cannot make up their mind and is unfit to be a council person or mayor.
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 06:58 pm |
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Ourtown wrote: Barney Rubble wrote: Sounds like all the residents had better attend the council meeting on Monday. The mayor may decide to do a "show of hands" of the public vote for council nominations - just like she was fixin to do for the $6,000,000 loan the town might get. I don't know - maybe that is good enough for Smyrna.
What would you suggest?
Oh, I dunno--- a show of hands of those present doesn't seem fittingly mayoral. Maybe something just a bit more mayoral for Smyrna's mayor --- let's see here ---- Eenie, Meenie, Miney, ....
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 03:45 pm |
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Anyone who is keeping an ear out in town knows that Pressley wants his council seat back. Is it a given that he will get it back? Ask Valerie White, Larry Thornton, Memphis Evans (you may have to wake him) and maybe Riddagh.
Hold on tight folks this is going to be another interesting but non productive 2 years for our town.
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Barney Rubble wrote: Sounds like all the residents had better attend the council meeting on Monday. The mayor may decide to do a "show of hands" of the public vote for council nominations - just like she was fixin to do for the $6,000,000 loan the town might get. I don't know - maybe that is good enough for Smyrna.
What would you suggest?
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 01:48 am |
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Two and a half cents wrote: To tell you the truth the only council member who ever returned my phone calls and went so far as to give his cell number in case of more problems was Mark Schaffer.
Mayor Schaeffer was probably the only elected official in town since Biff Newnam who had a clue about municipal government and affairs, and would actually provide service to the people. He was often vilified, usually unfairly, but things got accomplished in the town during his terms in office. Notwithstanding that, there are fringe elements in the town who today still would like to lay at his feet blame for things that don't please them. Never lay it in the lap of the present mayor and council -- it just HAS to be mayor Schaeffer's fault. Superior intelligence, I would suppose.
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 01:23 am |
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| Sounds like all the residents had better attend the council meeting on Monday. The mayor may decide to do a "show of hands" of the public vote for council nominations - just like she was fixin to do for the $6,000,000 loan the town might get. I don't know - maybe that is good enough for Smyrna.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 11:51 pm |
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Ourtown wrote: Ourtown wrote: IMHO Only wrote: I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
If I remember correctly, DeFeo had almost as many votes as Pressley and way over the number of votes as Mullen. I know he was running for a council seat and they were running for mayor, but the man did receive a large number of votes, which shows a large number of the citizens feel he would represent us well.
It was disgusting to see two of them take an oath to represent the people and act in the best interest, then sit down and do just the opposite. Grow up councilmen & woman and act in the best interest of the people and town. Because a few of you have a vendetta against the mayor, you shouldn't take it out on us!! Regardless of your personal feelings, please uphold your oath of office or step down and let someone responsible step up.
All of our citizens that feel DeFeo should represent us need to show up at the council meeting Monday night, May 18, 7:30pm and make their voice heard. You can certainly make your voice heard in 3 minutes. Each of us need to call as many of our friends, family and neighbors. How about starting a petition that can be presented. Now that is pulling together. I hear the petition has been started. It is time for the citizens to let council know our choice and time for council to act on the citizens choice. After all, it is our town.
I agree. Tony for Council!!! I will talk to my friends, and sign the petition.
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Two and a half cents wrote: The great thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid.
~ Art Spander
Now, it appears that Art Spander was a very wise man.
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The great thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid.
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Now 2, did you read all of mind. I think I said something like that with the rest I said. Grasp it all.
And Ms cat, if things didn't change, I guess we can keep on the same road. One new person isn't going to make this better. Kind of get my drift,need to get a wash of all. Back to they are good people, before you get into me being some hate person. I say they are just not up to THIS job. And m other point the bad news on all this, is we can't seem to get anyone out to vote for. maybe the one new person might og been a good change, but I guess we will not know. And I will go back to Clayton, I guess you did see how many ran in that SMALLER town.
Hey how about that down town, really made some nice improvements, Yea i know give it time. May I bring up Middletown again, I think they did about the same thing and it should didn't look like this. But what do I know, there I go again.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 08:17 pm |
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Someone wrote: 2¢ Are you sure you follow this town's posts. You say reccomend to the council. Now since when will our council listen to anyone in town.
well, that seems to be a different issue. When the town has one council position unopposed for election, reelects an inept mayor who has not a clue about bringing the council closer together, YET -- the council listens to nobody in town, every voter should look at themselves in a mirror to see why. Very few eligible voters bothered to express their wishes a couple of weeks ago, so everybody deserves exactly what the town "government" is.
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| Wow that sure did not take long for the new council to be dissed.... Not a few weeks and hte massses complaining already..... Good luck to the new council they are going to need it.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 06:49 pm |
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Ourtown wrote: Ourtown wrote: IMHO Only wrote: I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
I noticed that Councilman Riddaugh voted for Raynor on the first round and against him on the second round. When asked why he changed his vote, the answer - "because the others voted against him", (which is not true, the 1st vote was 3 to 3) Didn't his flyer say he was not going to be influenced?
By your theory "Two Cents" that means Pressley and Mullen are out too. So going by your theory, a new person should be recommended. I do have someone in mind; we'll see what council does with this if I can get someone to make the recommendation. If I remember correctly, DeFeo had almost as many votes as Pressley and way over the number of votes as Mullen. I know he was running for a council seat and they were running for mayor, but the man did receive a large number of votes, which shows a large number of the citizens feel he would represent us well.
It was disgusting to see two of them take an oath to represent the people and act in the best interest, then sit down and do just the opposite. Grow up councilmen & woman and act in the best interest of the people and town. Because a few of you have a vendetta against the mayor, you shouldn't take it out on us!! Regardless of your personal feelings, please uphold your oath of office or step down and let someone responsible step up.
All of our citizens that feel DeFeo should represent us need to show up at the council meeting Monday night, May 18, 7:30pm and make their voice heard. You can certainly make your voice heard in 3 minutes. Each of us need to call as many of our friends, family and neighbors. How about starting a petition that can be presented.
Now that is pulling together. I hear the petition has been started. It is time for the citizens to let council know our choice and time for council to act on the citizens choice. After all, it is our town.
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Someone wrote: 2¢ Are you sure you follow this town's posts. You say reccomend to the council. Now since when will our council listen to anyone in town.
Now i do travel to Middletown every now and then, been doing that for a whole lot of years. at one time in life these two towns were about the same, but boy has that changed. But I do know some of the people that have been on council up there, and for some reason they have been doing a better job then what we have here. You know i think I would feel bad if I was one of ours and say to myself I just can't handle this. But we have folks with egos, they might even think they might take a shot at the president next time. Folks get the idea, you can't handle it. But i guess i will have also say, we haven't seen many running to put their names in. Not like Clayton. Boy talk about drifting.
Well said.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 06:28 pm |
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2¢ Are you sure you follow this town's posts. You say reccomend to the council. Now since when will our council listen to anyone in town.
Now i do travel to Middletown every now and then, been doing that for a whole lot of years. at one time in life these two towns were about the same, but boy has that changed. But I do know some of the people that have been on council up there, and for some reason they have been doing a better job then what we have here. You know i think I would feel bad if I was one of ours and say to myself I just can't handle this. But we have folks with egos, they might even think they might take a shot at the president next time. Folks get the idea, you can't handle it. But i guess i will have also say, we haven't seen many running to put their names in. Not like Clayton. Boy talk about drifting.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 05:35 pm |
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| 2 1/2 -- I am certain that the NOMINATION must come from the mayor or a council member, but certainly anybody could talk to their councilpersons or the mayor and recommend that they consider placing the name of your choice into nomination. Last edited on Fri May 15th, 2009 05:35 pm by Two Cents
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 05:32 pm |
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Ourtown wrote: Two Cents wrote: IMHO Only wrote: I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
The voters evidently did not agree - they elected smoebody else. Can the mayor & council really now appoint somebody who just lost an election? I don't think so.
I noticed that Councilman Riddaugh voted for Raynor on the first round and against him on the second round. When asked why he changed his vote, the answer - "because the others voted against him", (which is not true, the 1st vote was 3 to 3) Didn't his flyer say he was not going to be influenced?
By your theory "Two Cents" that means Pressley and Mullen are out too. So going by your theory, a new person should be recommended. I do have someone in mind; we'll see what council does with this if I can get someone to make the recommendation. If I remember correctly, DeFeo had almost as many votes as Pressley and way over the number of votes as Mullen. I know he was running for a council seat and they were running for mayor, but the man did receive a large number of votes, which shows a large number of the citizens feel he would represent us well.
It was disgusting to see two of them take an oath to represent the people and act in the best interest, then sit down and do just the opposite. Grow up councilmen & woman and act in the best interest of the people and town. Because a few of you have a vendetta against the mayor, you shouldn't take it out on us!! Regardless of your personal feelings, please uphold your oath of office or step down and let someone responsible step up.
All of our citizens that feel DeFeo should represent us need to show up at the council meeting Monday night, May 18, 7:30pm and make their voice heard. You can certainly make your voice heard in 3 minutes. Each of us need to call as many of our friends, family and neighbors. How about starting a petition that can be presented.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 05:15 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: Ourtown wrote: By your theory "Two Cents" that means Pressley and Mullen are out too. So going by your theory, a new person should be recommended. I do have someone in mind; we'll see what council does with this if I can get someone to make the recommendation.
Under my "theory", you are correct -- Pressley and Mullen are out, too. Maybe for different reasons than others would hold. Pressley is out because he voluntarily resigned from a council position his supporters had elected him to, thereby violating a solemn trust they had placed in him to represent their interests. Mullen is out because his council term expired and he did not want to be on the council again.
YOu say you have somebody in mind, but you want for somebody else to make the recommendation. Why would you not make the recommendation yourself, in order to be certain that it is made?
The recommendation must be made by a council person or mayor.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 05:12 pm |
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Two and a half cents wrote: Two Cents wrote: 2 1/2 --- the mayor and each of those council people have telephones. Why would anybody hesitate to call them? They have held themselves forth to be servants of the public. I know that they seem to think that they are something other than that, but you can rest assured that if I have questions, concerns, or legitimate complaints that don't get answered when and where I raise them, those telephones will be ringing.
Two Cents----Try calling the mayor. Did you get voice mail? No problem leave a message she will call you back. NOT!
Try Raynor, Thornton, Evans. Raynor once did call back and it only took 3 weeks. Let me know how these calls work out for you.
To tell you the truth the only council member who ever returned my phone calls and went so far as to give his cell number in case of more problems was Mark Schaffer.
Every time I have called the mayor, she has returned my phone call except the first time I left my name and phone number with town hall. She did not receive that message. Now I call her office number 653-5877. Sometimes I have to leave a message but she has always returned my call. I do not know her personally, only as a citizen with questions or suggestions. Everyone I have spoken to has said she always returned their calls.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 04:49 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: 2 1/2 --- the mayor and each of those council people have telephones. Why would anybody hesitate to call them? They have held themselves forth to be servants of the public. I know that they seem to think that they are something other than that, but you can rest assured that if I have questions, concerns, or legitimate complaints that don't get answered when and where I raise them, those telephones will be ringing.
Two Cents----Try calling the mayor. Did you get voice mail? No problem leave a message she will call you back. NOT!
Try Raynor, Thornton, Evans. Raynor once did call back and it only took 3 weeks. Let me know how these calls work out for you.
To tell you the truth the only council member who ever returned my phone calls and went so far as to give his cell number in case of more problems was Mark Schaffer.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:57 pm |
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| 2 1/2 --- the mayor and each of those council people have telephones. Why would anybody hesitate to call them? They have held themselves forth to be servants of the public. I know that they seem to think that they are something other than that, but you can rest assured that if I have questions, concerns, or legitimate complaints that don't get answered when and where I raise them, those telephones will be ringing. Last edited on Fri May 15th, 2009 03:57 pm by Two Cents
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:53 pm |
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Two Cents wrote:
2 1/2 --- I just have to ask you why it is that you and your neighbors who are so concerned about these issues did not go to the council or talk to the police yourselves. With all due respect to Mr. DeFeo, is he the only instrument through which results are available?
Some of my neighbors did go to council. We were told they would get back to us. We did call police. Sometimes they came, sometimes they didn't. I am not saying DeFeo is the only instrument through which results can be obtained. I was just telling of our experience with the man. Take it for what it is.
I don't know how many times you had occasion to speak to council but you have 3 minutes (the mayor's hand is on her eye timer to make sure you don't go over) after the 3 minutes you are told you will get a call.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:48 pm |
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Ourtown wrote: By your theory "Two Cents" that means Pressley and Mullen are out too. So going by your theory, a new person should be recommended. I do have someone in mind; we'll see what council does with this if I can get someone to make the recommendation.
Under my "theory", you are correct -- Pressley and Mullen are out, too. Maybe for different reasons than others would hold. Pressley is out because he voluntarily resigned from a council position his supporters had elected him to, thereby violating a solemn trust they had placed in him to represent their interests. Mullen is out because his council term expired and he did not want to be on the council again.
YOu say you have somebody in mind, but you want for somebody else to make the recommendation. Why would you not make the recommendation yourself, in order to be certain that it is made?
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:41 pm |
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Two and a half cents wrote: As for Defeo, I met him when he knocked on my door during his campaign. Our neighborhood has been having serious problems with strange looking people walking around at the break if dawn trying windows and fiddling with door knobs. We have quite a few children in the neighborhood so this is really a worry for all of us. We also have an abandoned home which someone is squatting in. I along with some neighbors talked at length to DeFeo about this. A few days later DeFeo came by again and told us that he had brought our problem to the police chief and some members of council. We did see a police presence in our neighborhood after his visit.
2 1/2 --- I just have to ask you why it is that you and your neighbors who are so concerned about these issues did not go to the council or talk to the police yourselves. With all due respect to Mr. DeFeo, is he the only instrument through which results are available?
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:06 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: IMHO Only wrote: I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
The voters evidently did not agree - they elected smoebody else. Can the mayor & council really now appoint somebody who just lost an election? I don't think so.
Pressley and Mullen also both "just lost an election" Can the mayor & council really now appoint somebody who just lost an election?
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:05 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: IMHO Only wrote: I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
The voters evidently did not agree - they elected smoebody else. Can the mayor & council really now appoint somebody who just lost an election? I don't think so.
I noticed that Councilman Riddaugh voted for Raynor on the first round and against him on the second round. When asked why he changed his vote, the answer - "because the others voted against him", (which is not true, the 1st vote was 3 to 3) Didn't his flyer say he was not going to be influenced?
By your theory "Two Cents" that means Pressley and Mullen are out too. So going by your theory, a new person should be recommended. I do have someone in mind; we'll see what council does with this if I can get someone to make the recommendation. If I remember correctly, DeFeo had almost as many votes as Pressley and way over the number of votes as Mullen. I know he was running for a council seat and they were running for mayor, but the man did receive a large number of votes, which shows a large number of the citizens feel he would represent us well.
It was disgusting to see two of them take an oath to represent the people and act in the best interest, then sit down and do just the opposite. Grow up councilmen & woman and act in the best interest of the people and town. Because a few of you have a vendetta against the mayor, you shouldn't take it out on us!! Regardless of your personal feelings, please uphold your oath of office or step down and let someone responsible step up.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:02 pm |
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IMHO Only wrote: curious reader wrote: A few years ago when a certain commercial property owner applied for an historic renovation grant, and received it, Mr. Pressley was hired as the contractor and at the time he was one of the town officials. Wasn't this a conflict of interest?
This should be of concern to all honest people of Smyrna. I just heard a rumor that 2 former councilmen along with a current councilman are meeting at a local restaurant on a regular basis and have decided to support Pressley to return to the empty seat on Council, which he threw away voluntarily to run for mayor.
I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
What a travesty it would be to have Pressley or Mullen just walk back into the seat they gave up to run for Mayor. I don't know about Mullen but I have heard that Pressley has been talking to council members and wants back in. It will probably happen because he has allies on council and he is a "leader". Smyrna will certainly take another step backwards if this happens.
I was at the last meeting when DeFeo was nominated to fill the empty seat. Memphis , Valerie White and Larry Thornton voted against him. The Mayor, Riddagh and Raynor voted for him. They would not give on this and the Mayor said we need to fill that seat and asked if anyone else any any suggestions or nominations for the seat. No one did. Valerie White said something to the effect that we could leave the seat open for a year. I felt for DeFeo sitting there with council arguing back and forth about rather leaving the seat open then having him fill it. It was IMHO a vote to let the Mayor know that she may have won the election but the war was far from over. The council had voted her down when she tried to appoint a vice mayor, and Council Secretary. The mayor did ask Valerie White if she would like to continue on as secretary since she had done a good job and Valerie said "NO".
As for Defeo, I met him when he knocked on my door during his campaign. Our neighborhood has been having serious problems with strange looking people walking around at the break if dawn trying windows and fiddling with door knobs. We have quite a few children in the neighborhood so this is really a worry for all of us. We also have an abandoned home which someone is squatting in. I along with some neighbors talked at length to DeFeo about this. A few days later DeFeo came by again and told us that he had brought our problem to the police chief and some members of council. We did see a police presence in our neighborhood after his visit. We saw him again after he had lost the election. He came by to thank us for our vote and to let us know that even though he did not win the election he would still be available to us and try to help as much as he could by getting our concerns to police and council.
This guy is the real deal. I am not related to him, I was not a friend of his. I was and am a citizen who only got answers after he intervened.
I will be at the meeting on Monday only to show my respect for Mr. Defeo.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 02:10 pm |
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IMHO Only wrote: I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
The voters evidently did not agree - they elected smoebody else. Can the mayor & council really now appoint somebody who just lost an election? I don't think so.
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 01:44 pm |
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curious reader wrote: A few years ago when a certain commercial property owner applied for an historic renovation grant, and received it, Mr. Pressley was hired as the contractor and at the time he was one of the town officials. Wasn't this a conflict of interest?
This should be of concern to all honest people of Smyrna. I just heard a rumor that 2 former councilmen along with a current councilman are meeting at a local restaurant on a regular basis and have decided to support Pressley to return to the empty seat on Council, which he threw away voluntarily to run for mayor.
I have talked to Mr. DeFeo, and, IMHO, Smyrna could not have a finer, more honest person to represent them on Council. The recommendation to fill the seat will almost certainly come up on Monday night (5/18) at the next Council Meeting. If you really care about our Town, be there to support Mr. DeFeo.
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eastbounder wrote: Passing Time wrote: Ourtown wrote: I was looking at the town website, they are all listed, in fact more than 60. I did not see where she took credit for bringing them here, her article said "welcomed".
She is our mayor, why don't we all try to do something positive and help our town. Don't you realize, your post are what is hurting our town and stopping businesses from considering us over other towns. It is time to stop and start putting that energy into doing good things for our town, if you are serious and not just another trouble maker!!
I do not beleive their posts hurt the town...they have their opinions..yes her flyer was misleading. She is the Mayor - she does her own hurtful things to the town like always pointing the finger at someone else or changing strides in mid stream. Now she tells the Suntimes no one will work with her and things will "still" be the same. She changed the rules which she made...either way I think that if give the chance and support she needs she will attempt do to what is best for the town. I say attempt because she will need the support of other members.
Its changing horses in mid stream, GEEZ 
oh for shame on me...horses, strides, houses, streets petty spelling errors - it is obvious you knew what I meant if you feel better pointing it out I am happy. Actually, I am happy all the time - pick away LOL
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 08:15 pm |
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Passing Time wrote: Ourtown wrote: I was looking at the town website, they are all listed, in fact more than 60. I did not see where she took credit for bringing them here, her article said "welcomed".
She is our mayor, why don't we all try to do something positive and help our town. Don't you realize, your post are what is hurting our town and stopping businesses from considering us over other towns. It is time to stop and start putting that energy into doing good things for our town, if you are serious and not just another trouble maker!!
I do not beleive their posts hurt the town...they have their opinions..yes her flyer was misleading. She is the Mayor - she does her own hurtful things to the town like always pointing the finger at someone else or changing strides in mid stream. Now she tells the Suntimes no one will work with her and things will "still" be the same. She changed the rules which she made...either way I think that if give the chance and support she needs she will attempt do to what is best for the town. I say attempt because she will need the support of other members.
Its changing horses in mid stream, GEEZ
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 06:24 pm |
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Ourtown wrote: I was looking at the town website, they are all listed, in fact more than 60. I did not see where she took credit for bringing them here, her article said "welcomed".
She is our mayor, why don't we all try to do something positive and help our town. Don't you realize, your post are what is hurting our town and stopping businesses from considering us over other towns. It is time to stop and start putting that energy into doing good things for our town, if you are serious and not just another trouble maker!!
I do not beleive their posts hurt the town...they have their opinions..yes her flyer was misleading. She is the Mayor - she does her own hurtful things to the town like always pointing the finger at someone else or changing strides in mid stream. Now she tells the Suntimes no one will work with her and things will "still" be the same. She changed the rules which she made...either way I think that if give the chance and support she needs she will attempt do to what is best for the town. I say attempt because she will need the support of other members.
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