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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:45 pm |
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To the kind people of this little town of Smyrna; you are all being made fools of by the current council, the town manager, and the Mayor. WAKE UP PEOPLE !!! Did you not learn anything for the last several years. Every one of the block heads has issues in their past, by you stepped right up and elected all of them. Gene and his rant to be the best mayor several years ago, (NOT) Cherv was to be a workhorse for the township ( NOT) Julia and Pat her mud slinging husband were to be the best politaco sounding board for the commminty ( NOT) and then there is Fuzzy for peaceful Smyrna, slinging BS in every breath. O then there is Hot flash, voted Miss Congenility ( what a crock of BS) She has the most to say and is the most bitter of them all on this little site of deceit. WOW you folks have alot to learn about the friends you choose and the company you keep. All twelve of you, and yes there are 12 of you, I can name them all, run around in this little town, to CVS , Acme, and the local pizza joints and the local bar and tavern, trying to keep it all in secret and confide in the very people that hate your freaking guts, and your all to stupid to know what you say to whom and how that travels right back to the hive to start the entire process all over again. I love to sit back and watch you all tear each other and the town apart. You think you might have learned something in the past several years, you HAVE NOT LEARNED SQUAT!! Try this, see if you can come together as enemies and place a moratoruam on this little den of hate for a couple of weeks so that Smyrna can not be the laughing stock of the entire east coast in a very nasty , pubic display of the internet. Your all are so wrapped up in your personal agendas, you cant do it, it is a fact, your just to stupid to see your own falts and weakness. It will destroy this little town and all of the residents if you do not stop. its your challange to make. Get "R" Done!
Long live the KING ( Elvis I mean) roflmao You have the nerve to anyone selfish racist or redneck. LQQK at all the posts on this site, WOW
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 01:46 pm |
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cottoncandy wrote: You can't win the argument about leadership, since the citizens voted Mayor Pat as their leader and most of the Councilmen have chosen to ignore the will of the people to advance their own agenda.
No -- the town citizens elected her mayor, but she is not the leader. She is also not a leader.
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 04:44 am |
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Observant wrote: Hot Flash -- If I correctly understand the composition of that committee -- mayor, 2 council members and 2 citizen members, it would seem to me that only the council member chairman has to be overcome or neutralized by the mayor.
How can you be "observant" when you can't read that the Councilmen on the Finance Committee at that time were Mullen, Thornton, and White? Mayor Pat was not a member, so the 3 Finance Committee councilmen needed only 1 vote to get their agenda passed. The town manager was able to convince the Finance Committee that a major portion of the property tax increase would be offset by a decrease in electric rates. This did not happen as evidenced by the posted utility rates in effect in early 2008 have not changed. Mullen and Pressley voted for the 2008 tax increase along with 4 other councilmen, and the absence of Mayor Pat at that meeting is a non-issue.
BTW, thanks for the opportunity to reiterate the facts. You can't win the argument about leadership, since the citizens voted Mayor Pat as their leader and most of the Councilmen have chosen to ignore the will of the people to advance their own agenda.
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 03:33 am |
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The TM probably is the one that presented it to the Finance Com. Chair. Apparently the chair has some of his followers on the committee. Whatever the mayor has said, it is always voted down because she is told she only has one vote and that is it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:43 am |
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Hot Flash -- If I correctly understand the composition of that committee -- mayor, 2 council members and 2 citizen members, it would seem to me that only the council member chairman has to be overcome or neutralized by the mayor. I take it that the town manager is not a comm. member and therefore has no vote. Then to get 2 others out of the remaining 3 to vote her way should not be an impossible assignment for one with leadership ability. Especially where it concerns a 50% tax increase. Mr.Mullen was evidently able to convince them to vote his way, so ......
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:33 am |
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Observant wrote: They are all the same wrote: Good job observant for coaxing the answer out of cc. As usual it was like pulling teeth to get the answer wasn't it? Whether her vote was negated or not, it was the fact that she did NOT take a stand on the issue and chose to play sick in order to avoid it.
I cannot take credit for obtaining the answer you refer to -- that was the question of "Another Opinion." However, I will offer that a mayor with leadership qualities should have been able to derail that tax increase in committee, thus preventing it from going to the council.
I don't think so because the Chairperson of the Finance Com. and the TM will not let anyone stand in their way.
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:26 am |
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They are all the same wrote: Good job observant for coaxing the answer out of cc. As usual it was like pulling teeth to get the answer wasn't it? Whether her vote was negated or not, it was the fact that she did NOT take a stand on the issue and chose to play sick in order to avoid it.
I cannot take credit for obtaining the answer you refer to -- that was the question of "Another Opinion." However, I will offer that a mayor with leadership qualities should have been able to derail that tax increase in committee, thus preventing it from going to the council.Last edited on Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:27 am by Observant
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:23 am |
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Observant wrote: cottoncandy wrote: Observant wrote: Tracker wrote: Each Committee must be chaired by a Councilman with 2 other Councilmen as members. Most Committees have 5 members, leaving 2 spots for non-Councilmen. Mr. Mullen is the Chairman of the Finance Committee and Utility Committee. IMO, he takes orders directly from the TM. When Mayor Stombaugh asks questions that the TM does not want to answer, he convinces Messrs. Mullen and Thornton that it is too expensive and time consuming to get the information.
If the questions raised by the mayor are of genuine interest or consequence, doesn't one have to wonder why the other council members and the public members on the committee don't desire to have those questions answered, as well? Is everybody afraid of or beholden to the town manager?
That is a very astute question, and I'm sure many of us have wondered why the Finance Committee does not challenge more of the expenses incurred. I know that Mayor Pat does not fear nor is she beholden to the town manager or anyone else. But, to be fair, the Finance Committee makes judgments on the information that it is given just as auditors do. That's why it is important to ask questions if it appears that important information may be missing.
Well, I agree that it is important to ask questions and to insist on complete and accurate responses to those questions, which seems to be exactly what is not being done! Heck, one's questions that produce no meaningful answers are a waste of breath, as if no question was even raised. Why do the committee members not insist on meaningful responses?
Helloooooo!!!! Is the mayor or any of the finance committee members going to respond to this question?? Probably not. Not even cottoncandy.
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:12 am |
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cottoncandy wrote: Extra Extra Read All About It wrote:
cottoncandy wrote: But, she was effective in rallying the citizens to protest increased property taxes in 2009.
Everyone follows the leader.
Since you have stated that you feel Mayor Stombaugh is not a leader and has been an ineffective Mayor, give your position on the leadership qualities of Mullen and Pressley, and what they have accomplished as Councilmen and in their leadership responsibilities on the Committees to which they chair.
Okay "Extra Extra Read All About It" you and your family members have not answered "cottoncandy" as to what Mullen & Pressley have accomplished and their leadership responsibilities on the Committees to which they chair.
As usual, you don't respond with true facts.
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Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:05 am |
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Another Opinion wrote: cottoncandy wrote: Another Opinion wrote: cottoncandy wrote: I'm glad you admit that this was an earth-shattering accomplishment. If you had your property taxes increased 50% in 2008, and facing a possible job loss in this economy, you would be extremely grateful that Mayor Pat saved you from a 20% increase in 2009. I know I am.
Who was the mayor that presided over a 50% property tax increase in 2008?
I believe it was Councilman Chervenak that presided over the Council meeting which enacted the 50% property tax increase in 2008. Mayor Stombaugh had voiced her objections to the Finance Committee, but she was ill and could not attend the Council meeting to cast her "no" vote, which would not have negated the six "yes" votes.
OK. Thank you for correctly identifying Ms. Stombaugh as the mayor when property tax rates were increased by 50%.
Good job observant for coaxing the answer out of cc. As usual it was like pulling teeth to get the answer wasn't it? Whether her vote was negated or not, it was the fact that she did NOT take a stand on the issue and chose to play sick in order to avoid it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 11:38 pm |
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cottoncandy wrote: Another Opinion wrote: cottoncandy wrote: I'm glad you admit that this was an earth-shattering accomplishment. If you had your property taxes increased 50% in 2008, and facing a possible job loss in this economy, you would be extremely grateful that Mayor Pat saved you from a 20% increase in 2009. I know I am.
Who was the mayor that presided over a 50% property tax increase in 2008?
I believe it was Councilman Chervenak that presided over the Council meeting which enacted the 50% property tax increase in 2008. Mayor Stombaugh had voiced her objections to the Finance Committee, but she was ill and could not attend the Council meeting to cast her "no" vote, which would not have negated the six "yes" votes.
OK. Thank you for correctly identifying Ms. Stombaugh as the mayor when property tax rates were increased by 50%.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 09:01 pm |
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Extra Extra Read All About It wrote:
cottoncandy wrote: But, she was effective in rallying the citizens to protest increased property taxes in 2009.
Everyone follows the leader.
Since you have stated that you feel Mayor Stombaugh is not a leader and has been an ineffective Mayor, give your position on the leadership qualities of Mullen and Pressley, and what they have accomplished as Councilmen and in their leadership responsibilities on the Committees to which they chair.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 08:45 pm |
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Another Opinion wrote: cottoncandy wrote: I'm glad you admit that this was an earth-shattering accomplishment. If you had your property taxes increased 50% in 2008, and facing a possible job loss in this economy, you would be extremely grateful that Mayor Pat saved you from a 20% increase in 2009. I know I am.
Who was the mayor that presided over a 50% property tax increase in 2008?
I believe it was Councilman Chervenak that presided over the Council meeting which enacted the 50% property tax increase in 2008. Mayor Stombaugh had voiced her objections to the Finance Committee, but she was ill and could not attend the Council meeting to cast her "no" vote, which would not have negated the six "yes" votes.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 08:36 pm |
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cottoncandy wrote: I'm glad you admit that this was an earth-shattering accomplishment. If you had your property taxes increased 50% in 2008, and facing a possible job loss in this economy, you would be extremely grateful that Mayor Pat saved you from a 20% increase in 2009. I know I am.
Who was the mayor that presided over a 50% property tax increase in 2008?
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 08:06 pm |
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cottoncandy wrote: Observant wrote: Tracker wrote: Each Committee must be chaired by a Councilman with 2 other Councilmen as members. Most Committees have 5 members, leaving 2 spots for non-Councilmen. Mr. Mullen is the Chairman of the Finance Committee and Utility Committee. IMO, he takes orders directly from the TM. When Mayor Stombaugh asks questions that the TM does not want to answer, he convinces Messrs. Mullen and Thornton that it is too expensive and time consuming to get the information.
If the questions raised by the mayor are of genuine interest or consequence, doesn't one have to wonder why the other council members and the public members on the committee don't desire to have those questions answered, as well? Is everybody afraid of or beholden to the town manager?
That is a very astute question, and I'm sure many of us have wondered why the Finance Committee does not challenge more of the expenses incurred. I know that Mayor Pat does not fear nor is she beholden to the town manager or anyone else. But, to be fair, the Finance Committee makes judgments on the information that it is given just as auditors do. That's why it is important to ask questions if it appears that important information may be missing.
Well, I agree that it is important to ask questions and to insist on complete and accurate responses to those questions, which seems to be exactly what is not being done! Heck, one's questions that produce no meaningful answers are a waste of breath, as if no question was even raised. Why do the committee members not insist on meaningful responses?
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 06:30 pm |
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cottoncandy wrote: But, she was effective in rallying the citizens to protest increased property taxes in 2009.
No effectiveness there. It was self preservation that caused the few people to attend. They did not want higher taxes as it affected their pocketbooks in a negative way. If she had been effective, as you state, there would have been hundreds of people attending.
If the mayor says and thinks everyone is against, what good is she as a leader? She is not. Everyone follows the leader.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 05:28 pm |
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Another Opinion wrote: cottoncandy wrote: But, she was effective in rallying the citizens to protest increased property taxes in 2009.
Well, that would certainly be a huge undertaking, now wouldn't it -- getting a dozen or so residents to come to a council meeting and squaking about a tax increase. OMG, a huge accomplishment, indeed! I can feel the earth trembling.
I'm glad you admit that this was an earth-shattering accomplishment. If you had your property taxes increased 50% in 2008, and facing a possible job loss in this economy, you would be extremely grateful that Mayor Pat saved you from a 20% increase in 2009. I know I am.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 05:16 pm |
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Observant wrote: Tracker wrote: Each Committee must be chaired by a Councilman with 2 other Councilmen as members. Most Committees have 5 members, leaving 2 spots for non-Councilmen. Mr. Mullen is the Chairman of the Finance Committee and Utility Committee. IMO, he takes orders directly from the TM. When Mayor Stombaugh asks questions that the TM does not want to answer, he convinces Messrs. Mullen and Thornton that it is too expensive and time consuming to get the information.
If the questions raised by the mayor are of genuine interest or consequence, doesn't one have to wonder why the other council members and the public members on the committee don't desire to have those questions answered, as well? Is everybody afraid of or beholden to the town manager?
That is a very astute question, and I'm sure many of us have wondered why the Finance Committee does not challenge more of the expenses incurred. I know that Mayor Pat does not fear nor is she beholden to the town manager or anyone else. But, to be fair, the Finance Committee makes judgments on the information that it is given just as auditors do. That's why it is important to ask questions if it appears that important information may be missing.
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cottoncandy wrote: But, she was effective in rallying the citizens to protest increased property taxes in 2009.
Well, that would certainly be a huge undertaking, now wouldn't it -- getting a dozen or so residents to come to a council meeting and squaking about a tax increase. OMG, a huge accomplishment, indeed! I can feel the earth trembling.
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 04:46 pm |
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Extra Extra Read All About It wrote: Let's move on and choose another mayor who may be more effective. Can't be worse can it?
Oh, boy, can it ever. Mullen = unquestioned loyalty to a TM who pulls his every string. Pressley = loyalty to the builders and the former Mayor. Mayor Pat has been stonewalled by Mullen and Thornton in many of her efforts to help the citizens. But, she was effective in rallying the citizens to protest increased property taxes in 2009. We can be sure that our taxes will increase next year if she is not re-elected. AND our electric rates will stay the same as they did in 2008 even though Mullen, as chairman of the Finance Committee, promised to decrease the electric rates. TM convinced the Finance Committee (Mullen, Thornton, and White) that the savings would be passed on through the PPCAC. What a joke! How can anyone prove that the citizens saved any money based on a fluctuating rate?
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 04:21 pm |
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Tracker wrote: Each Committee must be chaired by a Councilman with 2 other Councilmen as members. Most Committees have 5 members, leaving 2 spots for non-Councilmen. Mr. Mullen is the Chairman of the Finance Committee and Utility Committee. IMO, he takes orders directly from the TM. When Mayor Stombaugh asks questions that the TM does not want to answer, he convinces Messrs. Mullen and Thornton that it is too expensive and time consuming to get the information.
If the questions raised by the mayor are of genuine interest or consequence, doesn't one have to wonder why the other council members and the public members on the committee don't desire to have those questions answered, as well? Is everybody afraid of or beholden to the town manager?
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Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2009 03:38 pm |
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| As usual it is always the 'blame someone else game.' If Ms. Stombaugh cannot garner votes for her cause or be assertive enough to gain a consensus, what good is she as Mayor. A mayor needs to be able to persuade members of committees or council to vote in order to assist her in her cause. If she cannot do this, then she is ineffective. AND, she has been ineffective as our mayor, so why vote for her? Two years was enough of a stress test and she flunked the stress test. Let's move on and choose another mayor who may be more effective. Can't be worse can it?
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Barney Rubble wrote: Ourtown wrote: I saw a list of items that Mayor Stombaugh was questioning during the budget process which was submitted to the finance committee. It was pretty interesting and I must agree, I think some of the items could have been eliminated or reduced.
Please let me jump in. Ms. Stombaugh is on , maybe the chairperson, of the finance committee. At least 2 other council members are on the comm. If she really had ideas to present that would result in cost or spending reductions for the town, why were they ignored? If she has leadership abilities and any mayoral ability, shouldn't one be able to expect her to have substantial influence with those comm. members? Yet her recommendations are ignored? What gives?
Each Committee must be chaired by a Councilman with 2 other Councilmen as members. Most Committees have 5 members, leaving 2 spots for non-Councilmen. Mr. Mullen is the Chairman of the Finance Committee and Utility Committee. IMO, he takes orders directly from the TM. When Mayor Stombaugh asks questions that the TM does not want to answer, he convinces Messrs. Mullen and Thornton that it is too expensive and time consuming to get the information. From the moment Mayor Stombaugh was elected, it was widely rumored that a couple of Councilmen were dedicated to making life on Council miserable for the Mayor so that she would quit. I admire her tenacity under extremely difficult circumstances.
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Ourtown wrote: I saw a list of items that Mayor Stombaugh was questioning during the budget process which was submitted to the finance committee. It was pretty interesting and I must agree, I think some of the items could have been eliminated or reduced.
Please let me jump in. Ms. Stombaugh is on , maybe the chairperson, of the finance committee. At least 2 other council members are on the comm. If she really had ideas to present that would result in cost or spending reductions for the town, why were they ignored? If she has leadership abilities and any mayoral ability, shouldn't one be able to expect her to have substantial influence with those comm. members? Yet her recommendations are ignored? What gives?
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Two Cents wrote: Ourtown wrote: I believe Mayor Stombaugh has the right answer, cut expenses.
You're right --- all units of government should be doing exactly that --- cutting expenses. However, mayor Stombaugh may like to talk about that, but what initiatives has she proposed or implemented which would steer the town toward reaching that objective?
I saw a list of items that Mayor Stombaugh was questioning during the budget process which was submitted to the finance committee. It was pretty interesting and I must agree, I think some of the items could have been eliminated or reduced.
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Ourtown wrote: I believe Mayor Stombaugh has the right answer, cut expenses.
You're right --- all units of government should be doing exactly that --- cutting expenses. However, mayor Stombaugh may like to talk about that, but what initiatives has she proposed or implemented which would steer the town toward reaching that objective?
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Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2009 11:24 pm |
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Y'all aint never gonna git lower electric rates because that thar carbon tax and all them other Obama feller's "excess energy" use penalties is gonna keep y'll like po folk.
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Doesn't the Mayor appoint the committee members, confirmed by council, at the organizational meeting? I believe most of the people on the committees are different than the ones that were appointed by Schaffer so that would mean there were new members appointed over the past two years. It seems to me that the same people post on this blog and no one new stepped up to run for the mayor seat. I hear the one guy was talked into running by a present councilman. If no one new would step up to run for the council positions, do you think there are going to be people willing to step up for the committees?
Also, seems to me that there are only a few ways for the town to receive revenue. If the past council and present council couldn't find new ways what on earth do you think someone else can do? I have heard Mullen say the only way is to raise taxes and Pressley wants to bring in more houses and business. I agree with Stombaugh, if the people can not support the business because of the lack of household funds, how will the businesses survive?
I believe Mayor Stombaugh has the right answer, cut expenses.
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| I had a chance to talk to the Mayor recently as she campaigned and I must admit she's more convincing when you can talk to her face to face. My problem is that I just don't away with the feeling that she is or can be an effective leader. Her ideas are good, but not much different than Mullen's or Pressly's. They all want the same things, more business, lower electric rates, lower taxes, more efficient town services. I know Mullen from past exposure to him with Little League and I'm glad that it looks like he's going to go. I don't Pressly but he got my sympathy and interest when I saw how some people were trying to sling mud by calling him a redneck racist. As a long-time Smyrna resident who is proud to hunt and fish and value my friends and community, I might be called a redneck from some of these newcomers to town. Unlike Big Dog I'm not privy to all of the "accurate" information he has so I can't comment on specifics, but it just seems that Pressly might be the best of the three running. Mayor Stombaugh might be a sincere person, but we don't need an ineffective leader at this time in the town's history.
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| I absolutely agree with you on this one. If you look at the committees, these are the same people who have been on there for awhile. I think that they are out of fresh ideas themselves and that is why, when some people push their wants on them, they dole out our taxpayer monies to appease them. Get Real. Either come up with new ideas on how to SAVE our money, or RESIGN from the committees and let someone else have a chance to do the job for us. It seems that these committees meet and most of their AGENDA's are taken up with fundraising ideas for themselves and little to no discussion or thought is given on what to actually do to improve the quality of life for town people.
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 07:57 pm |
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Thank You,
It's not just the finance committee's but all of them. Safety, Downtown, Historic they all need new faces new ideas. I'm not trying to argue with anyone on here but let's just take a step back, look at the whole picture and keep who ever gets elected accountable for their promises. If half of anyone who gets on this blog would step up come to council meetings and get involved in our town. We are the tax payers and we need to have a say.
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Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 06:19 pm |
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Yep. Here is your Finance Committee People. These are the ones to remove if they are not spending our money properly.
Gene Mullen, Ruth Bower, Arthur Ricker, Larry Thornton, Valerie White. Got it right off of the website.
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two cents,
I can tell how you got your blog name. Elected officials can raise our taxes. Read my earlier blog where you and me and everyone who lives in town were saved a property increase of 19% because of a small group of towns people fought it. Were you there? Do you care that it wasn't to save us on our electric rates but to finance the pension fund that has been neglected or drained over the years. No you and most of this town wouldn't know this unless you came to the finance meeting the very next day and heard it. This is why we need new faces new ideas. Nothing is perfect in this town or in our state. How many times have you gone up against the town about anything or are you one of the ones who sit and wait for someone else to do it. I'll say it again I don't care who wins, nothing will change without new faces on these committees and more people going to town council meetings. This is where ordinances get twisted and lands get annexed into town (like the ones they are trying to do now).
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 09:35 pm |
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Tracker wrote: If you want to get to know the candidates, come to the candidate forum to be held at
Smyrna Town Hall on Market Street Plaza, 7 p.m. on Thursday, April 16 (tonight).
The three candidates for mayor have been with us for 2 years or more, if we don't know what they are about by this point, then God help us.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 05:33 pm |
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57BIGDOG wrote: They get together and can't figure ways to save money ...
Where did you get the notion that public servants are charged with a responsibility to save money? They have taxation power to raise more money!
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 12:54 pm |
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If you want to get to know the candidates, come to the candidate forum to be held at
Smyrna Town Hall on Market Street Plaza, 7 p.m. on Thursday, April 16 (tonight).
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 06:57 am |
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This goes out to everybody,
Did anybody read today's town paper, notice how each of the candidates are on all of the committees? This what I've said in my earlier blog's, new people , new idea's are needed on these committees, but it's the good ol boy club. They keep the same ones on these committees and it's the same old thing. They get together and can't figure ways to save money, start neighborhood crime watch programs. The Mayor and Council of this town need to remember they work for us, but if no one goes to the meetings nothing is going to change. We need them to replace most of the people that are on these committees and get fresh faces and new ideas. I think that this is something all of us can at least agree on.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 06:47 am |
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To you've done it now
speaking of idiots look in the mirror. I am not even close to any of the candidates! I'm just someone who knows the town ordinance's, and I do my best to watch what goes on, the lies ,the promises. My question to you is were you at the finance meeting,where they wanted to increase our property taxes 19%? If I upset you about what I said about Lexington Ave. I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone who lives there. I know that new people have moved in and my remark was wrong. You are also wrong. You seem to be pretty good at being on this blog spend some time looking up what constitutes a super fund site. As far as Dnrec they don't know,hell they keep jobs open for people who go to jail for child molesting and for vehicular manslaughter so if you want to take their word on their knowledge about what a super fund site is go ahead. As far as your questions I'm not Pressley and no I'm not close to or tied to anyone. I don't think any of the 3 running even know what was there
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57BIGDOG wrote: When are you people going to wake up. for the last time I am not Bill Pressley. My question to you about the junk yard who sent in the soil samples? Also were they done correctly? the samples that were taking were from just the top part of the property. A correct test is to zig zag down the entire property. Records were either lost or mysteriously disappeared. That area could have looked better years ago if those who lived there gave a rats a** on how their property looked.M.S. broke every rule he could ( now does this sound like I'm Bill Pressley? ) He's the one that had truck loads of dirt removed before he was stopped. For all I know your one of the partners on that project who doesn't care,just line your pockets. I know what I am talking about any where there was a junk yard there is a super fund site. oil, anti-freeze and all of the busted up batteries behind the building, the numerous car and tire fires on record with the fire company. If you and your brother are so smart where in the Hell does all of this go? Into the ground, call Dnrec and see if they even have records of the junk yard.As far as my grammar if you don't like the way I tell it then just don't read what I write. I guess that the only thing bothering you is who I really am and just about Lexington Ave. Start looking and worrying about other things that are important. You have done it now wrote: Well 57Bigdog if you are truly Bill Pressley then I will have to say I think you are an idiot. First my brother lives on Lexington not far from your so called 'superfund site'. When he learned that the old junk yard might be a problem he investigated. Turns out that all the hoopla was for nothing. Environmental report came back clean. So don't go running down that area. There are a lot of nice folks that live there and it is actually starting to look nice.
Start editing your posts and write and spell like you are at least halfway edumacated. Mullens and Stombaugh have nothing to offer but you sound like you don't have much to offer either. While you have been on council have you voted for a tax or utility increase? Have you voted to try to dismiss Hugg? Have you voted for any of the new positions that have been created over the past 2 years? Just curious as you seem to fly under the radar. Mullens and Stombaugh have been pretty vocal. Exactly where have you stood over the past couple of years?
Big Dog I actually asked you the questions which are in bold black above. I received no answer from you. If you are not Pressley, it sounds like you are close to him so why don't you ask him the questions I asked you before. While you have been on council have you voted for a tax or utility increase? Have you voted to try to dismiss Hugg? Have you voted for any of the new positions that have been created over the past 2 years? Just curious as you seem to fly under the radar. Mullens and Stombaugh have been pretty vocal. Exactly where have you stood over the past couple of years?
For your information I am not a partner and neither is my brother. About Lexington, DNREC and their environmental consulting agency were on the site doing testing. My brother spoke with them personally. You have no facts just presumptions. Quit knocking our area because we have homes near or next to this site. Oh - no dirt was removed until the site was under construction which didn't start until a couple years after DNREC and others did their testing. One other thing. Yes there was a junk yard but not of the magnitude that would be a superfund site. I would suggest that before you post false information regarding a superfund site that you check your facts. Property owners are very concerned about false information affecting their property values and my brother is one of them. Call DNREC if you have questions. I am sure they will be happy to set the record straight instead of distort it like you have.
As far as being Bill Pressley and his bashing Mark - I think you would bash him in a minute if it meant that you might get elected. Anyway I think you just might be Pressley or one of his family. I also think that you just lost my vote.
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 05:42 pm |
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| Here's something else for you to chew on, ask the finance committee about how they were going to refund the pension fund that they either drained over the years or didn't add to it. By raising our taxes 19% and telling us it was to lower our electric rates. The police chief cries for 4 new vehicle's, why purchase a $ 105,000 SWAT vehicle when we don't need it? That money could have bought 3-or 4 new Crown Vics oh I'm sorry you guy's think you look good in the Chargers. Wasteful spending on a Hybrid Ford Escape that the way it's being used the town will be replacing the batteries every couple of years, these vehicle's are made to run not go from the Town hall to Huggs house on South Street.
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Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 05:30 pm |
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| When are you people going to wake up. for the last time I am not Bill Pressley. My question to you about the junk yard who sent in the soil samples? Also were they done correctly? the samples that were taking were from just the top part of the property. A correct test is to zig zag down the entire property. Records were either lost or mysteriously disappeared. That area could have looked better years ago if those who lived there gave a rats a** on how their property looked.M.S. broke every rule he could ( now does this sound like I'm Bill Pressley? ) He's the one that had truck loads of dirt removed before he was stopped. For all I know your one of the partners on that project who doesn't care,just line your pockets. I know what I am talking about any where there was a junk yard there is a super fund site. oil, anti-freeze and all of the busted up batteries behind the building, the numerous car and tire fires on record with the fire company. If you and your brother are so smart where in the Hell does all of this go? Into the ground, call Dnrec and see if they even have records of the junk yard.As far as my grammar if you don't like the way I tell it then just don't read what I write. I guess that the only thing bothering you is who I really am and just about Lexington Ave. Start looking and worrying about other things that are important.
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It is my understanding that this is the agreement they made with each other
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| Once again. Where did you come by this latest post. I noticed it changed but did not answer my question. Are you just slinging hoping it will stick?
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If Pressley does not get elected mayor, Gene (oops! - mayor Mullen) has promised to appoint him to fill the seat he has resigned to be able to run for mayor!!!Last edited on Mon Apr 13th, 2009 03:45 pm by Two Cents
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| That is interesting. How did you come by this bit of knowledge?
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If Gene does not get elected, Pressley(oops-Mayor Pressley) has promised to appoint him to the seat he had resigned to be able to run for mayor.
Vote for Pat on on election day and both of them will be gone!!
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Ourtown wrote: Smyrna Mom wrote: Tracker wrote: How can anyone be a leader who gets up in the middle of a meeting and follows the leader out of the meeting? As far as good common sense, why would someone give up an elected seat on Council to run for another seat, which has the same voting power? Mr. Pressley has been the chairman of the Business Development Committee for several years; so why has he not produced as a leader in that function? As far as leadership, Mayor Stombaugh appointed a separate Board of Adjustment, initiated basic meeting procedures, organized National Incident Management System (NIMS) classes and certification for Town employees and first responders, objected to cash deposits to our electric provider who now accepts a letter of credit, led the people's objection to a property tax increase in 2009, etc. IMO, Mayor Stombaugh is the only candidate without a personal agenda and will definitely stand up for the citizens of Smyrna to the detriment of her popularity with other Council members.
This is leadership. Maybe the "wantabes" are upset because they can't be leaders . Makes sense, they wanted everyone to be equal - WHY? Because they can't live up to what is required, they want to bring the one that can down to their level. Citizens, read between the lines, there is only one leader in this group. The more I hear and read, the more I am convinced. Mayor Stombaugh, hang in there, you have proved yourself no matter what they say.
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Ourtown - I did not write the post above. Please remove my name so that it is not associated with what Tracker or some else may have written. Thank you.
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Posted: Tue Apr 14th, 2009 02:29 pm |
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Tracker wrote: How can anyone be a leader who gets up in the middle of a meeting and follows the leader out of the meeting? As far as good common sense, why would someone give up an elected seat on Council to run for another seat, which has the same voting power? Mr. Pressley has been the chairman of the Business Development Committee for several years; so why has he not produced as a leader in that function? As far as leadership, Mayor Stombaugh appointed a separate Board of Adjustment, initiated basic meeting procedures, organized National Incident Management System (NIMS) classes and certification for Town employees and first responders, objected to cash deposits to our electric provider who now accepts a letter of credit, led the people's objection to a property tax increase in 2009, etc. IMO, Mayor Stombaugh is the only candidate without a personal agenda and will definitely stand up for the citizens of Smyrna to the detriment of her popularity with other Council members.
This is leadership. Maybe the "wantabes" are upset because they can't be leaders . Makes sense, they wanted everyone to be equal - WHY? Because they can't live up to what is required, they want to bring the one that can down to their level. Citizens, read between the lines, there is only one leader in this group. The more I hear and read, the more I am convinced. Mayor Stombaugh, hang in there, you have proved yourself no matter what they say.
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Posted: Tue Apr 14th, 2009 04:45 am |
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Well 57Bigdog if you are truly Bill Pressley then I will have to say I think you are an idiot. First my brother lives on Lexington not far from your so called 'superfund site'. When he learned that the old junk yard might be a problem he investigated. Turns out that all the hoopla was for nothing. Environmental report came back clean. So don't go running down that area. There are a lot of nice folks that live there and it is actually starting to look nice.
Start editing your posts and write and spell like you are at least halfway edumacated. Mullens and Stombaugh have nothing to offer but you sound like you don't have much to offer either. While you have been on council have you voted for a tax or utility increase? Have you voted to try to dismiss Hugg? Have you voted for any of the new positions that have been created over the past 2 years? Just curious as you seem to fly under the radar. Mullens and Stombaugh have been pretty vocal. Exactly where have you stood over the past couple of years?
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I have also seen the Mayor rush into council chambers and downstairs for business meetings (example-finance) and just throw papers on the table and mumble about work and leaving. I know she has to work, then change the meetings to where it's posted in the town paper and give us the towns people notice instead of we'll have one more meeting the next day and then when some of us show up be told by Mr. Mullens it was 30 minute meeting and that was it. The town council has been a mess since MS was around and causing problems about a boat. Get real this town has been destroyed by in proper annexing ( super fund site-Lexington Ave.) Everybody has something to say but don't forget about other issues: are single family rental homes being rented out to more than one family. As a past Rental Home owner the house has to be inspected before new people can rent it and the names of every member of that family listed on the contract. We always made sure the property was kept clean and the only ones living in it were on the contract. look around Commence st, Delaware and other homes that are in our historic district. This runs down the value of everyones homes near these. Our code enforcement officers need to start looking at this instead of riding around smoking in town cars, or being afraid of confrontation when it's your job. make sure permits are bought and posted like they are suppose to. People need to go to council meetings and not just talk over their fences if we stick together we can turn Smyrna back to where we and others will be proud.
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