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TruthwillOut
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Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 02:46 pm |
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Lady with a Tramp wrote: What we need to do is line up all the dam Faggots,Gays,Lesbians,Transvestite,Homosexuals and be like Texas have a Firing post and do away with the Aids carrying varmints they are showing the younger generation it is ok to screw the same sex it is Bulls**t.When we were kids it was like when you dated outside your race we would roll you in tire and feather your ass you just don't do things like this.This world has a rude awaking coming.They better get right.
this is the most hateful, bigoted, racist post i have ever seen.
but we do things like kill people over their sexual orientation? Maybe we should start with the homophobic rednecks in Smyrna, that would make the world a better place for everyone.
The bottom line is this: either we have free will, in which case there is nothing we can do that is "wrong" or we dont in which case nothing that God doesnt approve of can happen.
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Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 03:39 am |
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| What we need to do is line up all the dam Faggots,Gays,Lesbians,Transvestite,Homosexuals and be like Texas have a Firing post and do away with the Aids carrying varmints they are showing the younger generation it is ok to screw the same sex it is Bulls**t.When we were kids it was like when you dated outside your race we would roll you in tire and feather your ass you just don't do things like this.This world has a rude awaking coming.They better get right.
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 07:01 pm |
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guitarearl wrote: Zymergy wrote: And the bible is all fact and figures and 100% truth.....if you believe that I have some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you!!
And you are entitled to your opinion. My point was to clarify that many Christians do not recognize the book that was quoted, not to assert that everyone must believe in the Bible's veracity. That previous response also stretched the language contained in other Scripture references in order to fit an agenda, while ignoring others.
The real point is to keep religion out of "Legal" matters. Let the various Religious leaders decide rather you can be "married" in their church. "States" should be concerned with the binding contract between a human couple. Rather that couple is man/woman or man/man or woman/woman should not matter in the eyes of the "law". Notice I italicized human couple which restricts the contract to two persons to keep from hearing from the crazies who like to throw out the multiple wives/husband and animals arguments.
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 05:40 pm |
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TruthwillOut wrote: What a Crock wrote: How do gays consummate a marriage? Definition: Consummate a marriage: To complete it by sexual intercourse between the partners. To copulate: to unite sexually as in the act of mating. To mate: To come together in order that they can breed.
Can a gay marriage be annulled. I think not, you can not annul something that cannot be consummated. Therefore, if it cannot be annulled it never was a marriage. Therefore all gay marriages are illegal.
There is only one reason that I can see clear in my mind for a bill such as this to pass any legislative session and that would be that there are too many gays in the legislature.
You need to look up what illegal and unlawful means cos youve got some ass backwards legal logic going on there. It is crucial to define the difference between legal and lawful. The generic Constitution references genuine law. The present civil authorities and their courts use the word legal. Is there a difference in the meanings? The following is quoted from A Dictionary of Law 1893:
Lawful. In accordance with the law of the land; according to the law; permitted, sanctioned, or justified by law. “Lawful” properly implies a thing conformable to or enjoined by law; “Legal”, a thing in the form or after the manner of law or binding by law. A writ or warrant issuing from any court, under color of law, is a “legal” process however defective. See legal. [Bold emphasis added]
Legal. Latin legalis. Pertaining to the understanding, the exposition, the administration, the science and the practice of law: as, the legal profession, legal advice; legal blanks, newspaper. Implied or imputed in law. Opposed to actual
“Legal” looks more to the letter [form/appearance], and “Lawful” to the spirit [substance/content], of the law. “Legal” is more appropriate for conformity to positive rules of law; “Lawful” for accord with ethical principle. “Legal” imports rather that the forms [appearances] of law are observed, that the proceeding is correct in method, that rules prescribed have been obeyed; “Lawful” that the right is actful in substance, that moral quality is secured. “Legal” is the antithesis of equitable, and the equivalent of constructive. 2 Abbott’s Law Dic. 24. [Bold emphasis added]
Legal matters administrate, conform to, and follow rules. They are equitable in nature and are implied (presumed) rather than actual (express). A legal process can be defective in law. This accords with the previous discussions of legal fictions and color of law. To be legal, a matter does not follow the law. Instead, it conforms to and follows the rules or form of law. This may help you to understand why the Federal and State Rules of Civil and Criminal Procedure are cited in every court petition so as to conform to legal requirements of the specific juristic persons named, e.g., “STATE OF GEORGIA” or the “U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT” that rule the courts.
Lawful matters are ethically enjoined in the law of the land—the law of the people—and are actual in nature, not implied. This is why whatever true law was upheld by the organic Constitution has no bearing or authority in the present day legal courts. It is impossible for anyone in “authority” today to access, or even take cognizance of, true law since “authority” is the “law of necessity,” 12 USC 95.
Therefore, it would appear that the meaning of the word “legal” is “color of law,” a term which Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, defines as:
Color of law. The appearance or semblance, without the substance, of legal right. Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because wrongdoer is clothed with authority of state, is action taken under “color of law.” Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, page 241.
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guitarearl
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 04:25 pm |
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Zymergy wrote:
And the bible is all fact and figures and 100% truth.....if you believe that I have some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you!!
And you are entitled to your opinion. My point was to clarify that many Christians do not recognize the book that was quoted, not to assert that everyone must believe in the Bible's veracity. That previous response also stretched the language contained in other Scripture references in order to fit an agenda, while ignoring others.
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TruthwillOut
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 04:08 pm |
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What a Crock wrote: How do gays consummate a marriage? Definition: Consummate a marriage: To complete it by sexual intercourse between the partners. To copulate: to unite sexually as in the act of mating. To mate: To come together in order that they can breed.
Can a gay marriage be annulled. I think not, you can not annul something that cannot be consummated. Therefore, if it cannot be annulled it never was a marriage.
Therefore all gay marriages are illegal.
There is only one reason that I can see clear in my mind for a bill such as this to pass any legislative session and that would be that there are too many gays in the legislature.
You need to look up what illegal and unlawful means cos youve got some ass backwards legal logic going on there.
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Posted: Tue May 26th, 2009 04:05 pm |
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What a Crock wrote: yun1095 wrote: guitarearl wrote: Just for the record, my Bible doesn't seem to have a book of Judith. Sometimes it's better to read it rather than to Google for cherrypicked information that's half-true.
The Book of Judith is a deuterocanonical book, included in the Septuagint and in the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christian Old Testament of the Bible, but excluded by Jews and Protestants. It has been said that the book contains numerous historical anachronisms, which is why many scholars now accept it as unreliable history; it has been considered a parable or perhaps the first historical novel. 
So, then, the Book of Judith is considered to be a "fairy" tale. Pardon my pun, yun.
And the bible is all fact and figures and 100% truth.....if you believe that I have some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you!!
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Posted: Sat May 23rd, 2009 01:53 am |
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yun1095 wrote: guitarearl wrote: Just for the record, my Bible doesn't seem to have a book of Judith. Sometimes it's better to read it rather than to Google for cherrypicked information that's half-true.
The Book of Judith is a deuterocanonical book, included in the Septuagint and in the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christian Old Testament of the Bible, but excluded by Jews and Protestants. It has been said that the book contains numerous historical anachronisms, which is why many scholars now accept it as unreliable history; it has been considered a parable or perhaps the first historical novel.
So, then, the Book of Judith is considered to be a "fairy" tale. Pardon my pun, yun.
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Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 11:46 pm |
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guitarearl wrote: Just for the record, my Bible doesn't seem to have a book of Judith. Sometimes it's better to read it rather than to Google for cherrypicked information that's half-true.
The Book of Judith is a deuterocanonical book, included in the Septuagint and in the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christian Old Testament of the Bible, but excluded by Jews and Protestants. It has been said that the book contains numerous historical anachronisms, which is why many scholars now accept it as unreliable history; it has been considered a parable or perhaps the first historical novel.
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Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 12:16 pm |
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| Just for the record, my Bible doesn't seem to have a book of Judith. Sometimes it's better to read it rather than to Google for cherrypicked information that's half-true.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:30 pm |
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Wow Yun I didn't know I joined a church what time is all the meetings.. Oh you must be a Penisest oh I meant a Priest. I didn't know you would get so bent over or should I say bent out of shape.
And Smyrna is full of Quacks with you being the ring Leader you should of applied at the Circus when it was in town you missed you dam break Ring Master
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yun1095
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 05:27 pm |
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LOL....Adam and Steve , thats the best you got?  hypocrites!!!! The bible is full of lesbians, and homosexual activities
Genesis:
"And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him." What did Ham do? Did he just look at his naked father or was there something more to it than that?
Jesus himself never married nor had children! Other parts of the Bible simply can't be forced into the "family values" obsession of the Fundamentalists, for example:
The Book of Ruth sensitively portrays bonding and devotion between two women. Also don't miss Book of Judith for a surprising overturning of male/female roles: Judith sneaks into the enemy camps, cuts off the head of Holofernes, the leader of the enemy army, returns and receives a hero's welcome, and then lives out the remainder of her days with her maidservants, rejecting all male suitors!
The "friendship" between David and Jonathan. The relevant passages: 1 Samuel 18:1-4; 20:3-4, and especially, 20:41 and 2 Samuel 1:25-26, quoted here: "And as soon as the lad had gone, David rose from beside the stone heap and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed three times; and *they* (David and Jonathan) KISSED ONE ANOTHER, and wept with another, until David recovered himself" (1 Sam. 20:41
New International Version).
"(David speaks 'Jonathan lies slain... I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant have you been to me; YOUR LOVE TO ME WAS WONDERFUL, PASSING THE LOVE OF WOMEN'"
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 02:42 pm |
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slow n easy wrote: God Made Adam and Eve Not Adam and Steve You dug deep for that one didn't you!
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 01:43 pm |
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:44 am |
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What a Crock wrote: How do gays consummate a marriage? Definition: Consummate a marriage: To complete it by sexual intercourse between the partners. To copulate: to unite sexually as in the act of mating. To mate: To come together in order that they can breed.
Can a gay marriage be annulled. I think not, you can not annul something that cannot be consummated. Therefore, if it cannot be annulled it never was a marriage.
Therefore all gay marriages are illegal.
There is only one reason that I can see clear in my mind for a bill such as this to pass any legislative session and that would be that there are too many gays in the legislature.
What a Crock!
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:28 am |
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How do gays consummate a marriage? Definition: Consummate a marriage: To complete it by sexual intercourse between the partners. To copulate: to unite sexually as in the act of mating. To mate: To come together in order that they can breed.
Can a gay marriage be annulled. I think not, you can not annul something that cannot be consummated. Therefore, if it cannot be annulled it never was a marriage.
Therefore all gay marriages are illegal.
There is only one reason that I can see clear in my mind for a bill such as this to pass any legislative session and that would be that there are too many gays in the legislature.
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