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Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 04:40 am |
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cottoncandy wrote: Just go to the next Council meeting, nominate Cottoncandy, and wait for the 4 votes needed. I will be honored to serve the great Town and People of Smyrna  .
I have already been instructed in this forum somewhere that only a council person and the mayor have the capability to nominate somebody. However, I believe that the mayor and some of the council members may welcome your offer to be nominated and to serve if apponited. Give them a call.
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Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 04:36 am |
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cottoncandy wrote: A speaker asked that the Councilmen who voted against Mr. DeFeo at least give a reason for their "No" vote. There was silence.
Certainly you don't really believe that responding to that question could be productive. Failing to respond might be some of the more intelligent things done by any of the council members in a long time. An answer would do nothing but provoke debate and more dissent than presently exists.
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 08:25 pm |
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Smyrna 1 wrote:
"Councilwoman White has every right to vote as she has." I agree.
"Defeo got out voted by someone else." For a different seat- there has not yet been an election for the seat we would like to see him fill.
(Are we starting our own "BLUE "hair club) It appears that you advocate age discrimination.
"Councilwoman White has the best interest of the town at heart with her comments and votes." I disagree. I have watched her many times vote against something which made no sense. It's happening now. A speaker asked that the Councilmen who voted against Mr. DeFeo at least give a reason for their "No" vote. There was silence.
"Our current Mayor can't seem to even figure out her home address." Why would she list her businesses as her home address even if they were within Town limits?
"so who is someone who does not even have a vested interest telling us what we are going to do, and who is going to represent us" You have just disenfranchised all those who rent and those who live with their relatives, as Mark did. He lived at his wife's property on Kates Way.
"Mark could do a better job running our town from his vacation home in Lewes, but maybe that is for the next election !" That's what we are trying so hard to prevent. Do we want a mayor who is on vacation 365 days a year?
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Smyrna 1 wrote: Councilwoman White has every right to vote as she has. The majority of the people voted for another person. Defeo got out voted by someone else. That means the majority of the people wanted someone other than him, get over it. With 10,000 people in the Town of Smyrna, can't our mayor come up with someone else. She can't even get the committee seats filled with people that our ELECTED officials will vote for ! With the support of the newest, uninformed councilman, and the older one who is near a vegetable state she will never get the support of staff or the remainder of council. (Are we starting our own "BLUE "hair club) Our Mayor has made Smyrna a joke with businesses trying to come to our area.
Councilwoman White has the best interest of the town at heart with her comments and votes. She thinks about items before she jumps to make a rash decision. Our current Mayor can't seem to even figure out her home address. Checking with the Kent County Web Site our mayor does not even own property in the Town that she is Mayor. She had a building north of town, that she has just sold, and also has one with her business south of town, again, OUT OF TOWN LIMITS, so who is someone who does not even have a vested interest telling us what we are going to do, and who is going to represent us. Mark could do a better job running our town from his vacation home in Lewes, but maybe that is for the next election !
And your point is? Where does it say that you have to own property in order to run for office? It just says that you must be a resident in order to run for office. As for Mark thank god he is gone let him stay in Lewes, and by the way Mark's house was owned by his wife and not him so why should he be allowed to run for office?
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 03:18 pm |
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Ms. White was previously elected. Nobody chose to run in her district this time....so technically I doubt that you can say she was elected this time.......she won by default.
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 03:08 pm |
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| S 1, WHAT?
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 03:06 pm |
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Councilwoman White has every right to vote as she has. The majority of the people voted for another person. Defeo got out voted by someone else. That means the majority of the people wanted someone other than him, get over it. With 10,000 people in the Town of Smyrna, can't our mayor come up with someone else. She can't even get the committee seats filled with people that our ELECTED officials will vote for ! With the support of the newest, uninformed councilman, and the older one who is near a vegetable state she will never get the support of staff or the remainder of council. (Are we starting our own "BLUE "hair club) Our Mayor has made Smyrna a joke with businesses trying to come to our area.
Councilwoman White has the best interest of the town at heart with her comments and votes. She thinks about items before she jumps to make a rash decision. Our current Mayor can't seem to even figure out her home address. Checking with the Kent County Web Site our mayor does not even own property in the Town that she is Mayor. She had a building north of town, that she has just sold, and also has one with her business south of town, again, OUT OF TOWN LIMITS, so who is someone who does not even have a vested interest telling us what we are going to do, and who is going to represent us. Mark could do a better job running our town from his vacation home in Lewes, but maybe that is for the next election !
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 01:01 am |
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| Do the councilmembers who voted against Defeo have another candidate in mind and did the discuss it?
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 12:30 am |
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| What would have been more diplomatic was if Madam Mayor had told council she was looking for qualified candidates for the open seat and committees rather than springing her list on them. It would have made the other members of council feel included in the process and perhaps, stopped this us against them hysteria. The council should have come up with lists of nominees and agreed on it. It appears to me that this is yet another pissing match between two bickering sides. They have NO concern for the town of Smyrna; rather, they want to play playground politics and remain in a deadlock. This will be another do-nothing session of these yokels. Apparently the people of Smyrna elected petty children to be our representatives. It's a sad time in Smyrna when the children at the dias can't see past their own vindictiveness to do the right thing FOR THE PEOPLE. Last edited on Thu May 21st, 2009 12:40 am by Nosy Parker
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:32 pm |
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smyrnaproud wrote: Two Cents...
I guess my big disappointment with the 3 negative votes against Mr. DeFeo stems from the fact that these 3 elected officials are voting NO, but offering NO recommendations for the town to move forward. Seems to me, they are acting childish. If they vote NO for DeFeo, fine - that's their opinion --- however, why aren't they recommending someone?
I know you asked 2c, but IMO, the answer is quite simple. They are miffed that they didn't get the Committee appointments that they demanded for themselves and their supporters. The Mayor has the sole power to appoint, but they can decline to accept them. As a result, there are 3 comittees in limbo. Unfortunately, IMO, they are playing politics with Mr. DeFeo's appointment in order to negotiate with the Mayor.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:11 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: Cottoncandy shirketh public service.
Just go to the next Council meeting, nominate Cottoncandy, and wait for the 4 votes needed. I will be honored to serve the great Town and People of Smyrna .
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 10:51 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: ....... I will always have a philosophical problem with the subject of appointing one who just lost an election to a post that they were seeking. I just don't believe that it would be appropriate to do so, and my remarks about that have absolutely nothing to do with Mr. DeFeo, per se -- I would take this position irrespective of who was being considered.
The issue with your statement is that Mr. DeFeo did not seek election to the seat we would like to see him fill; there was no election for that seat, which Mr. Pressley had vacated. He was the second-place winner for the seat Mr. Mullen held until his term expired.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 09:37 pm |
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| You have asked the question that deserves to be answered. I do believe the members of the council or the mayor need to nominate somebody who will receive the votes necessary for them to bew seated on the council. I will always have a philosophical problem with the subject of appointing one who just lost an election to a post that they were seeking. I just don't believe that it would be appropriate to do so, and my remarks about that have absolutely nothing to do with Mr. DeFeo, per se -- I would take this position irrespective of who was being considered.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 09:07 pm |
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Two Cents...
I guess my big disappointment with the 3 negative votes against Mr. DeFeo stems from the fact that these 3 elected officials are voting NO, but offering NO recommendations for the town to move forward. Seems to me, they are acting childish. If they vote NO for DeFeo, fine - that's their opinion --- however, why aren't they recommending someone?
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 07:12 pm |
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| Cottoncandy shirketh public service.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 06:39 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: Someone -- not personal at all. I said everything that was my reasoning on the appointment of Mr. DeFeo. No hidden agenda. Please do not pick any of my tomatoes yet. In another week, you can have all you want.
Why not, for example, appoint cottoncandy to the vacant council seat, who at least seems capable of stating a case. Maybe cottoncandy would like to be appointed?? How about it, cottoncandy??
Cottoncandy is more than willing, able, and available. But Cottoncandy is pulling for Mr. DeFeo at this time.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 04:33 pm |
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smyrnaproud wrote: I noticed that Councilwoman White won her tenure on Town Council in this past election as she ran unopposed. Congratulations.....
I'm curious to know the benfits our town has received from having Councilwoman White on Town Council -- I mean, to go unopposed, wow.......
I'm seeing she is holding steadfast in voting NO in the appointment of Mr. DeFeo to Town Council. Does she have a reason? Is this vote in alignment with the majority of her constituents?
I honestly do not have much information about this elected official. What I'm trying hard to figure out is why she is trying to block Mr. DeFeo from serving on council. Why would we turn someone down who wants to work hard for our town??
I'm just curious.
I have a questions for Ms. White. I noticed that you had Gene Mullen hold the bible for you when you took your oath of office. I'm a little puzzled. Could you please explain the reasoning behind that choice?
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 01:41 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: Some number of people seem to be hung up on the notion that because Mr. DeFeo is a nice guy, ran a clean election campaign, and lost -- that his desire to be on the council has to be accommodated. He does not deserve any more consideration than any other citizen. Appointing anybody who just lost an election bid is inappropriate. Now, I am going out to pick some tomatoes.
Two Cents no reply is necessary to this post.
I think this subject has been beat to death.
The voter turnout for this election was 721 citizens, of the 721 only 680 voters voted for council members.
Of the 680 who got out and voted 405 voted Riddagh and 275 voted DeFeo.
This breaks down to DeFeo getting 40.4% of the vote.
If 275 of the voters thought enough of him to get out and vote for him why would you not consider that as a pretty good number (considering the turnout) and worthy of consideration.
We need to get business started at town hall, no other nominees have been presented.
The seat is only for one year. And the question is why not stop all this bickering and get down to the business of filling the seat and stop wasting time. Unless this man has some dark hidden secrets I see no reason not to put him in the seat. The only other alternative is to have a special election to find someone else and do we really want council sitting around waiting for that? I suppose they can always just leave the seat open for a year which would not benefit anyone.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 01:16 pm |
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| Best way is to have another election. Then we can find out just who the folks want.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 01:09 pm |
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Someone -- not personal at all. I said everything that was my reasoning on the appointment of Mr. DeFeo. No hidden agenda. Please do not pick any of my tomatoes yet. In another week, you can have all you want.
\Why not, for example, appoint cottoncandy to the vacant council seat, who at least seems capable of stating a case. Maybe cottoncandy would like to be appointed?? How about it, cottoncandy??
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:59 pm |
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| 2¢ kind of sounds personal. See you should stick to gardening, if you got tomatoes now you are one of the best at it, gardening that is
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:51 pm |
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Two Cents wrote: Some number of people seem to be hung up on the notion that because Mr. DeFeo is a nice guy, ran a clean election campaign, and lost -- that his desire to be on the council has to be accommodated. He does not deserve any more consideration than any other citizen. Appointing anybody who just lost an election bid is inappropriate. Now, I am going out to pick some tomatoes.
Why are you hung up on the fact that he "lost" the election? As has been pointed out by reasonable people, he was the second-place winner and a nice guy and ran a clean campaign and has actually helped people during and after his campaign with a strong desire to maintain that relalationship and has declined the monetary help from 2 former councilmen to run against the Mayor and is easily accessible and would be a new face on Council, which they are in dire need of. IMO, we need a man of this integrity, honesty, and character on Council.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:30 pm |
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| Some number of people seem to be hung up on the notion that because Mr. DeFeo is a nice guy, ran a clean election campaign, and lost -- that his desire to be on the council has to be accommodated. He does not deserve any more consideration than any other citizen. Appointing anybody who just lost an election bid is inappropriate. Now, I am going out to pick some tomatoes.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:23 pm |
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Perhaps council should propose a special election to fill the seat.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:51 am |
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Lets weight our options for council:
1) DeFeo (lost a good clean election, new face in Smyrna politics)
2) Presley (relinquished his seat to run for mayor and LOST) or
3) Mullen (taxes, higher electric rates)?
I'll stick with option 1 DeFeo...
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:43 am |
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| 2¢ that was not a very good comeback. If you and she thinks that way, heaven help you. Go back to gardening.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:37 am |
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smyrnaproud wrote: ... why she is trying to block Mr. DeFeo from serving on council. Why would we turn someone down who wants to work hard for our town??
I'm just curious.
Maybe she observed that Mr. DeFeo was not elected by the people who voted. It would be highly unusual to appoint somebody that just lost an election. It really doesn't matter that he wants to be on council or that he may have some good ideas. He lost in the election last month.
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 05:46 am |
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I noticed that Councilwoman White won her tenure on Town Council in this past election as she ran unopposed. Congratulations.....
I'm curious to know the benfits our town has received from having Councilwoman White on Town Council -- I mean, to go unopposed, wow.......
I'm seeing she is holding steadfast in voting NO in the appointment of Mr. DeFeo to Town Council. Does she have a reason? Is this vote in alignment with the majority of her constituents?
I honestly do not have much information about this elected official. What I'm trying hard to figure out is why she is trying to block Mr. DeFeo from serving on council. Why would we turn someone down who wants to work hard for our town??
I'm just curious.
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