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Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2009 03:09 pm |
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| I know. My question was completely rhetorical. I wish that he was still here, but only for the most selfish of reasons. I have no doubt that Texas is better off for having him and his family -- he is a genuinely good man.
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Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2009 02:54 pm |
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| Buzzbait did his job, he's now enjoying his life in Texas, far away from Smyrna's absurdities. He's still watching, though.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2009 03:11 pm |
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| Where, oh where was Buzzbait when he was needed the most??
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 02:57 am |
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| Maybe the council and mayor adjourned to Sheridan's bar to take care of a powerful thirst that has built up like it does when people are getting in the wheat crop.
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 02:19 am |
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| Well I would have thought the town council meeting would have adjourned by now. I suppose that no news is still good news. Probably sat there looking at one another again tonight. Oh well ---- maybe they didn't waste any tax dollars tonight.
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Barney Rubble wrote: It was you -- not I -- who made the statement that in your opinion thats why some of the council people will not vote for him. I have no way of determining if thats the reason or if there are other reasons.
Unfortunately, you selected the incorrect clause for my reasoning. It has nothing to do with his merits but with the shameful actions of others. IMO, since Mr. DeFeo is now in a position to know who is manipulating whom, the alleged ethics violators do not want him on Council.
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 01:18 am |
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| It was you -- not I -- who made the statement that in your opinion thats why some of the council people will not vote for him. I have no way of determining if thats the reason or if there are other reasons.
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Barney Rubble wrote: Tracker wrote: Anyone who has taken the time to get to know Mr. DeFeo will immediately realize he is an honest person with the highest integrity, especially since he would not accept any monetary assistance from others who asked him to run against the mayor. IMO, this is why they won't vote for him now.
Could this be the reason the council has a problem with his appointment? Maybe he would not be such a good fit.
Could it be that you are suggesting that we have a Council with members who lack honesty and integrity?  Since "he would not be such a good fit", you seem to imply that those Councilmen who voted against him have no desire to work with someone who has these qualities. What a mockery of their sworn promises to the people of Smyrna!
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 07:15 pm |
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| I might have to say the Buzz, might say this town hasn't learned much.
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Why would anybody ask Mr. DeFeo to run against the mayor, especially since she had two challengers? It would be interesting to know who offered him money to do that.
Where, oh where -- when the town needs him desparately right now -- is BUZZBAIT??
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 06:50 pm |
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Tracker wrote: Anyone who has taken the time to get to know Mr. DeFeo will immediately realize he is an honest person with the highest integrity, especially since he would not accept any monetary assistance from others who asked him to run against the mayor. IMO, this is why they won't vote for him now.
Could this be the reason the council has a problem with his appointment? Maybe he would not be such a good fit.
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yun1095 wrote: Hey Fuzzy, nice avatar 
Thank you Yun!
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Tracker wrote: ... Mr. DeFeo ... would not accept any monetary assistance from others who asked him to run against the mayor. IMO, this is why they won't vote for him now.
Maybe you are correct. Welcome to the reality of politics.
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fuzzy wrote: Hey Ruby......I mean Extra, Barney, 2 cents, and the list goes on.........this conversation with yourself is really getting old.
Fuzzy -- I am here to guarantee that you are at a minimum, partially incorrect about who is whom. I don't know or care who the others are or aren't, but I know who I am not.
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Hey Fuzzy, nice avatar
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Barney Rubble wrote: I was really kind of thinking this --- maybe --- only maybe, if he made it known in public that he would neither seek or accept that nomination ------- mayyyyybe the council would be able to move forward in selecting somebody else. If mr De Feo truly has the towns best interest at heart ---- maybe he will do that.
The person who really needs to step forward to announce that he will not seek nomination this year is Mr. Montejo. He was given the opportunity to run for Council in April but chose not to do so. Word on the street is that his mother came to Town Hall to get information for him about running for Council "because he needed something to do".
Mr. DeFeo attends all the Council meetings as well as the committee meetings to which he was appointed. Anyone who has taken the time to get to know Mr. DeFeo will immediately realize he is an honest person with the highest integrity, especially since he would not accept any monetary assistance from others who asked him to run against the mayor. IMO, this is why they won't vote for him now.
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| Hey Fuzzy, nice avatar
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| Hey Ruby......I mean Extra, Barney, 2 cents, and the list goes on.........this conversation with yourself is really getting old.
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 09:37 pm |
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| I was really kind of thinking this --- maybe --- only maybe, if he made it known in public that he would neither seek or accept that nomination ------- mayyyyybe the council would be able to move forward in selecting somebody else. If mr De Feo truly has the towns best interest at heart ---- maybe he will do that.
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 08:17 pm |
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| Maybe he just wants to have a position of some importance and likes "Councilman" before his name. Or he could truly want to serve the town's best interest. Fact is that we really don't know what his motivations are. The towns people were led to believe that Mullen and Stombaugh had the town's best interest at heart. This is debatable. Thusly, we are very suspect when someone is adamant about acquiring a seat on council.
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tspong wrote: Mr. DeFeo, 57, who campaigned on a platform of being an independent voice on council, said Tuesday he’ll leave his hat in the ring for a fifth vote if that’s what it takes.
"I’m a patient man. If I get on there, it won’t be to serve the other six members, but to serve the people of the town," he said.
Am I the only person on this forum that wonders what underlies this man's great interests, to be defeated in fair council elections twice and still hanging around wanting to get on the council through nomination? If he were so independent and honorable, why would he be sucking up to gain a nomination? Why not be really honorable and announce that he will not accept a nomination, even if nominated and elected by the council?
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Extra Extra Read All About It wrote: That is a good one.
Sure was!
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| That is a good one.
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| 2 1/2 cents -- are you suggesting that Mr. DeFeo can be "molded" to fit the pattern that the mayor and 2 others desire? But evidently the remaining 3 don't like that particular shape? Maybe the Smithsonian Institute would be willing to make a wax figure of Mr. DeFeo to sit at the council table? They do very good work.
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SmyrnaGuy wrote: Two Cents wrote: Two and a half cents wrote: Jeff Montajo (sp) ran in the 2008 race. This was a 6 man race. Bill raynor won with 100 votes, Charles Hall came in 2nd with 86 votes, Rodney Slaughter came in 3rd with 82 votes,DeFeo came in 4th with 64 votes
So what is the huge thing about appointing DeFeo --- because he has failed twice to win elections? That's nice -- appoint those who cannot win elections. Some of us actually thought that was what elections were about --- seating those who win, not about appointing those who lose.
I think the point is, he's willing to step up and serve the town.
Then why did Jeff choose to not run for Mullen's seat when the town told him he could run for either that seat or the mayor's. DeFeo has stepped up and no one had to convince him or offer him anything to do it. I am sure you know what is really going on here. We need someone on council we can "mold" to fit in. Just like alwqays we don't want change, so each election the council and the mayor (sometimes together, sometimes not) go out looking for the candidates who they think will vote as they want no matter what, We have seen this time and time again.
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Two Cents wrote: BS -- just wondering -- did you ever vote for any of the people on council who are now voting NO on the nominated people?
Yes I voted for one of them, and they change when they get into office. You think you get rid of the others who act like this, and the ones you endorsed portray the same attitudes when they get in. Where are the people who are sincere and have the town's best interest instead of exploiting their big egos? This has to stop. The council people who are acting like the 3 stooges are just that and not council persons. This is my opinion.
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 04:57 am |
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| This whole thing is silly. The person appointed will only hold the seat for 8 months as they will have to run in the election in 2010. What is the big deal over appointing someone. Mr. Defeo has shown interest and attended meetings, committees, etc. Are the 3 council persons who won't appoint him afraid that he may know more than they know? They sure are making themselves look dumb! Do the right thing and get this over and done with, appoint Mr. DeFeo!
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Two Cents wrote: Two and a half cents wrote: Jeff Montajo (sp) ran in the 2008 race. This was a 6 man race. Bill raynor won with 100 votes, Charles Hall came in 2nd with 86 votes, Rodney Slaughter came in 3rd with 82 votes,DeFeo came in 4th with 64 votes
So what is the huge thing about appointing DeFeo --- because he has failed twice to win elections? That's nice -- appoint those who cannot win elections. Some of us actually thought that was what elections were about --- seating those who win, not about appointing those who lose.
I think the point is, he's willing to step up and serve the town.
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Two Cents wrote: Two and a half cents wrote: Jeff Montajo (sp) ran in the 2008 race. This was a 6 man race. Bill raynor won with 100 votes, Charles Hall came in 2nd with 86 votes, Rodney Slaughter came in 3rd with 82 votes,DeFeo came in 4th with 64 votes and Montajo came in 5th with 31 votes
So what is the huge thing about appointing DeFeo --- because he has failed twice to win elections? That's nice -- appoint those who cannot win elections. Some of us actually thought that was what elections were about --- seating those who win, not about appointing those who lose.
Makes them both losers then don't it.
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Two and a half cents wrote: Jeff Montajo (sp) ran in the 2008 race. This was a 6 man race. Bill raynor won with 100 votes, Charles Hall came in 2nd with 86 votes, Rodney Slaughter came in 3rd with 82 votes,DeFeo came in 4th with 64 votes
So what is the huge thing about appointing DeFeo --- because he has failed twice to win elections? That's nice -- appoint those who cannot win elections. Some of us actually thought that was what elections were about --- seating those who win, not about appointing those who lose.
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The RUTH in ruthless wrote: I also heard that former Mayor Schaeffer is being considered to fill the vacant seat. Helen Here must have insider information. This is wonderful news.
You must stop this kind of posting. You will have Hot Flash and Fuzzy all in a dither over it.
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Extra Extra Read All About It wrote: 2 cent. Do you know anththin about J. Montejaro? If so, what does he do for a living and where does he live?
Jeff Montajo (sp) ran in the 2008 race. This was a 6 man race. Bill raynor won with 100 votes, Charles Hall came in 2nd with 86 votes, Rodney Slaughter came in 3rd with 82 votes,DeFeo came in 4th with 64 votes and Montajo came in 5th with 31 votes, I forget the name if the last candidate but he got 11 votes.
Looks like the people in that election still went for the long time resident and ex police chief of Skyrna for 1st choice. The people then also favored Defeo with 64 votes, while Montajo got 31 votes.
This election Montajo had a chance to run and did not want to be in a 3 or 4 man race so he choose not to run when told he could run for MUllen's seat or for mayor.
If one of the qualifactions in Thornton's mind is that the right candidate should not atten town meetings then Montajo wins that one.
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| I also heard that former Mayor Schaeffer is being considered to fill the vacant seat. Helen Here must have insider information. This is wonderful news.
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| BS -- just wondering -- did you ever vote for any of the people on council who are now voting NO on the nominated people?
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| I think it is time to take this above the Smyrna level of govt to the AG office-to refuse to allow that seat to be filled is crazy and not running the town in the town's best interest. Let's take those petitions to the AG office.
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| Jeez.....Extra and 2 cents........having a conversation with yourself again. Its getting rather old.......do you not realize that people can see right through your rantings and ravings with yourself????????
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| That's an interesting take on the matter. Have an operative who can control a couple of council members get them to become uncooperative and refuse to agree to any nominated individual until the remainder of the council and interested town residents become completely frustrated with the vacant seat such that nearly anybody would be a welcome appointment. Hmmm ......
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| Two I heard the x mayor is coming back to take the seat
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| No, I really don't.
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| I recognize the name but don't remember him or what part of town he was from. Do you remember who he ran against?
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| I do not know him or anything about him. Wasn't he a candidate for a council position last year or the year prior to that?
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| 2 cent. Do you know anththin about J. Montejaro? If so, what does he do for a living and where does he live?
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fuzzy wrote: We heard Thornton's "reason" for not backing Tony....sure would like to hear the "reasons" from the other two people.
It really doesn't matter, now does it? One is not required to provide a reason.
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getagrip wrote: .... we now not only have better, we have the best.
You had better get a grip, indeed! We have the best what? Doesn't take much to satisfy some people, I suppose.
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We heard Thornton's "reason" for not backing Tony....sure would like to hear the "reasons" from the other two people.
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Hey Two Cents/Barney/Extra/2 1/2,RS etc.....don't worry - we now not only have better, we have the best. You're just still so bitter about your husband being tossed out of office aren't you? Nice pathetic try at trying to hold on to power behind the scenes. It is rumored your husband recommended Montejo, who allegedly at first told Defeo he was going to back him, then later made up some lame excuse NOT to put a sign in his yard when asked by Defeo. That certainly wasn't very honorable of him, was it? I don't want a person like THAT on council! Besides, I don't know if this is true, but I heard his momma came down to Town Hall to find out if he had to attend both meetings each month....huh? Come back when you're ready for the big leagues junior (or at least the semi-pros)
Larry Thornton nominated Montejo for the seat
Valerie White allegedly turned in his name to the mayor to serve on the utility committee and another committee He was appointed to the utility committee.
1 + 1 = 3 amigos
Doesn't take a genius to see who is backing Montejo.
Looks like mayor Pat still has some corruption to clean up.
Two Cents wrote: Whatever became of that band of "Smyrna Deserves Better" people? Doesn't Smyrna deserve better than the Stombaugh Gang is able to deliver? It has delivered absolutely nothing but contention and dissent for the last 26 months since the object of their affection was elected. Two more years of this? Why?
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Two Cents wrote: Whatever became of that band of "Smyrna Deserves Better" people? Doesn't Smyrna deserve better than the Stombaugh Gang is able to deliver? It has delivered absolutely nothing but contention and dissent for the last 26 months since the object of their affection was elected. Two more years of this? Why?
"Smyrna Deserves Better" was just a group that supported Mullen when he ran against Mark and then they did fund raising for him before the election and then again after he lost to help him get an atty. Pat Stombaugh was part of that group.
They again formed to help get her elected the first time (they did not help this time, because most of them don't get along with her.)
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| Whatever became of that band of "Smyrna Deserves Better" people? Doesn't Smyrna deserve better than the Stombaugh Gang is able to deliver? It has delivered absolutely nothing but contention and dissent for the last 26 months since the object of their affection was elected. Two more years of this? Why?
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Thanks for making the Town a laughing stock AGAIN.
Again?? Get real. How about STILL!! For the last 10 years!
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Extra Extra Read All About It wrote: Someone wrote: BR, i think it would break the 3 3 tie where nothing gets done.
If there were a 7th member on council such as DeFeo, who is the Stombaugh Gang pick, it stands to reason that the tie breaker would always go in the Gang's favor. Better to have a deadlock. The deadlock scenario would be the best as the issues being voted upon would ONLY get passed if a true majority of council favored or supported the issue in question. I have read that DeFeo is supposedly his own person but he will undoubtedly owe his allegiance to the Gang who supported him. If he chooses to truly vote his own conscience then the Gang would set out to destroy him as they have done with so many who have opposed them. History will repeat itself.
Extra do you have information that we don't have concerning DeFeo. If so let us in on it. What about the Guy Thornton put up at the last meeting. Jeffery Montego, Jeff was running for Presley's seat and then the town found out he could not run for the seat because of some new law by the election board so Jeff was given the option to run with DeFeo and Riddagh or to run for mayor but he choose not to run in a 3 man race. So whose gang is he with? Which do you think would be most easily swayed someone who ran with no help from anyone or someone who dropped out and didn't run at all.Last edited on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 06:12 pm by Two and a half cents
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