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Town of Smyrna approves demolition of Historic House
 
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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 12:51 am
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Do we have a amen, for what, I have no idea what any of them said.  But I am sure it made alot of sense to you all.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 12:31 am
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Amen

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 08:24 pm
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Smyrna 1 wrote: Gene,

I understand your comments, but the house was in great shape.  I agree that society does not need to tell you what to do with your property.  But this structure was on the historic register.  The fact I was relating to is that the town building official did not follow the ordinance.  Is this the first?  There was no documentation, no pictures, no measurements, nothing done.  He did not contact the town manager for approval, and did not have the planning department review the structure.  All of these are in the town's ordinance.  One official can only say "I didn't know it was in the ordinance for so long, didn't Dover have any historical houses".  If we have ordinances they need to be followed, if someone would have had grass in the street out front, or a loose shutter, or wanted to change the paint color, could they just look at the ordinance and say I won't follow it, and play stupid ?  With yourself and Councilman Pressley missing from the council I don't believe anything will be done.  We'll all just to have wait another 10 months !

I will 100% agree with your comment that if we have an ordinance then it needs to be followed until changed. My point is why do we have an ordinance that restricts someone from doing something with their own property that doesn't affect anyone else. I don't subscribe to the notion that everything old has to  be preserved. somewhere along the line common sense and personal rights must kick in. But this the world we live in now. 

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 02:11 am
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NativeDel wrote: The council person that asked the question should resign due to incompetence or being just plain stupid.
That would be Mrs. Mayor, and you are so right!

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 01:50 am
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We all have our opinions and some like me like to express it sometimes, as long as we are civil. Some have proven they are not, which is typical to anonymity.
The worst part of all this is that some politicians, I am speaking about Smyrna Town Council members, take these opinions as a true measure of what their constituents want. That is so wrong and those politicians should not be in office, which is why we have problems now. Those politicians do not appear to have their own opinion; they get direction from the anonymous cry babies. They were put in office because of their character, beliefs and promises.
I raise my hand if you ask me my vote in council chambers, but maybe I am not a voter or even a citizen of the town. Maybe it is not how I feel, but I am being pressured by the people sitting around me. The chances are that the majority of hands are not the belief by the majority of Town of Smyrna Citizens. The hand raisers might just be a group of people that a council person stacked in the chambers that night. What is even scarier is that the other council members could not figure this out. The council person that asked the question should resign due to incompetence or being just plain stupid.

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slow n easy wrote: You people need to get a dam grip !Let me try to put them in order for you.This week crying over house. Two weeks ago you were crying about the Main Street project not being done and with the road being too rough.Three weeks ago you woke up to a Tree being cut down what's wrong with Smyrna not wanting to save trees. (That was in the Sun-Times) Four weeks ago town cutting down the Dear Old Sugar Maple Tree.Five  weeks ago Lake Como don't have any lifeguards.Six Weeks ago the Library don't got the right hours of operation.Oh and let's not forget the about the Months,Weeks,days,hours and minutes you have been talking about Baldwin.  Why don't you and your little peers all get chains and tie yourselves around the things you think the Town should keep oh I forgot you will b**ch about that too. Blame nobody but the ones that voted to keep the office the way it is.Welcome to the Smyrna/Clayton public forum! :)

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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 03:27 pm
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You people need to get a dam grip !Let me try to put them in order for you.This week crying over house. Two weeks ago you were crying about the Main Street project not being done and with the road being too rough.Three weeks ago you woke up to a Tree being cut down what's wrong with Smyrna not wanting to save trees. (That was in the Sun-Times) Four weeks ago town cutting down the Dear Old Sugar Maple Tree.Five  weeks ago Lake Como don't have any lifeguards.Six Weeks ago the Library don't got the right hours of operation.Oh and let's not forget the about the Months,Weeks,days,hours and minutes you have been talking about Baldwin.  Why don't you and your little peers all get chains and tie yourselves around the things you think the Town should keep oh I forgot you will b**ch about that too. Blame nobody but the ones that voted to keep the office the way it is.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 12:44 pm
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Smyrna 1 wrote: Gene,

I understand your comments, but the house was in great shape.  I agree that society does not need to tell you what to do with your property.  But this structure was on the historic register.  The fact I was relating to is that the town building official did not follow the ordinance.  Is this the first?  There was no documentation, no pictures, no measurements, nothing done.  He did not contact the town manager for approval, and did not have the planning department review the structure.  All of these are in the town's ordinance.  One official can only say "I didn't know it was in the ordinance for so long, didn't Dover have any historical houses".  If we have ordinances they need to be followed, if someone would have had grass in the street out front, or a loose shutter, or wanted to change the paint color, could they just look at the ordinance and say I won't follow it, and play stupid ?  With yourself and Councilman Pressley missing from the council I don't believe anything will be done.  We'll all just to have wait another 10 months !
How do you know it was in "great shape"? Are you a certified building inspector? Did you go inside and deem it structurally sound? Maybe there were foundation or other structural issues with the house that were too costly to repair? Also, how do you know the town official didn't go by the book? It takes the town so long to tear down these eyesore houses, I'm sure there is a lot of red tape to go thru to get things done. They don't just ride over there with a demo crew and start smashing things.

On another note- I see they finally tore down the abandoned house on Delaware St on the corner of Cummins. One more piece of junk down, how many more to go?

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 Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 12:30 pm
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Gene,

I understand your comments, but the house was in great shape.  I agree that society does not need to tell you what to do with your property.  But this structure was on the historic register.  The fact I was relating to is that the town building official did not follow the ordinance.  Is this the first?  There was no documentation, no pictures, no measurements, nothing done.  He did not contact the town manager for approval, and did not have the planning department review the structure.  All of these are in the town's ordinance.  One official can only say "I didn't know it was in the ordinance for so long, didn't Dover have any historical houses".  If we have ordinances they need to be followed, if someone would have had grass in the street out front, or a loose shutter, or wanted to change the paint color, could they just look at the ordinance and say I won't follow it, and play stupid ?  With yourself and Councilman Pressley missing from the council I don't believe anything will be done.  We'll all just to have wait another 10 months !

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 Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 12:19 pm
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Playing the Game wrote: Smyrna 1 wrote: Riding by Friday morning, I noticed that they were demolishing the large yellow house on North Main Street.  Saturday on my way home, I stopped along with 5 or 6 cars that were taking pictures of the old beams that were out back.  An older gentleman that was there taking pictures said that the house was on the National Historic Register, and that it was as old as the Lindens across the street.  Is the Town of Smyrna completely lost its mind?  Heads should roll into the same dumpster that they are putting the house into.  The man that bought the property said last year that he was going to keep the house for the employees to live in that were going to work in his wife's office, which is going to be built on the site.  Maybe the citizens of Smyrna could issue a permit to demolish town hall,  just make sure it is on a week day from 8 to 4 p.m., and maybe some of our problems would be solved!

And exactly what right does the Town have to tell some one they cannot improve their property. Maybe the house was too far gone to warrent repairs. Just because something is old doesn't mean it's worth anything. Just my opinion

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 Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 01:17 am
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Smyrna 1 wrote: Riding by Friday morning, I noticed that they were demolishing the large yellow house on North Main Street.  Saturday on my way home, I stopped along with 5 or 6 cars that were taking pictures of the old beams that were out back.  An older gentleman that was there taking pictures said that the house was on the National Historic Register, and that it was as old as the Lindens across the street.  Is the Town of Smyrna completely lost its mind?  Heads should roll into the same dumpster that they are putting the house into.  The man that bought the property said last year that he was going to keep the house for the employees to live in that were going to work in his wife's office, which is going to be built on the site.  Maybe the citizens of Smyrna could issue a permit to demolish town hall,  just make sure it is on a week day from 8 to 4 p.m., and maybe some of our problems would be solved!

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 Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 09:21 pm
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Riding by Friday morning, I noticed that they were demolishing the large yellow house on North Main Street.  Saturday on my way home, I stopped along with 5 or 6 cars that were taking pictures of the old beams that were out back.  An older gentleman that was there taking pictures said that the house was on the National Historic Register, and that it was as old as the Lindens across the street.  Is the Town of Smyrna completely lost its mind?  Heads should roll into the same dumpster that they are putting the house into.  The man that bought the property said last year that he was going to keep the house for the employees to live in that were going to work in his wife's office, which is going to be built on the site.  Maybe the citizens of Smyrna could issue a permit to demolish town hall,  just make sure it is on a week day from 8 to 4 p.m., and maybe some of our problems would be solved!


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