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Helen here
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Posted: Thu Aug 3rd, 2006 09:47 pm |
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So Buzz
Does this mean someone was tooting their own horn instead of whistle blowing?
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Posted: Thu Aug 3rd, 2006 09:27 pm |
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In a 21 December 2005 Dover Post article, Ed Ryan's attorney gave this reason for Ryan's termination as Town Manager:"He was exposing governmental corruption and cronyism. He was reporting all sorts of things and starting to look under rocks, speaking out about these things that deal with fiscal affairs. That’s why he was fired," Neuberger said.
Now, in a 26 July 2006 News Journal article, the attorney gives a new reason:Ousted Cheswold Town Manager Edward J. Ryan Jr. has dropped his federal lawsuit against the town after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that the First Amendment does not protect public employees who expose wrongdoing as part of their jobs.
However, his attorney said Tuesday that Ryan will sue the town in state court for breach of contract.
Breach of contract is not the same as government whistle blowing, so why has Neuberger changed his story and why should anyone believe it is any more credible than the old story?
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Helen here
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 07:30 pm |
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| Has Ryan filed any thing yet or is he waiting until September?
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 06:40 pm |
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Use common sense. Of course that wouldn't apply within reason.
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 03:30 am |
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| Untagged - tow? What if you are in the process of building a car. I help build drag cars and have never been told the car in my driveway has to be towed.
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 02:53 am |
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Luna Eclipse wrote: How about this Miss Know it All:
How come Ryan complained about all the junk arround town but never Peter's property, trashed and having all those untagged cars sitting around?
I HAVE NO IDEA BUT IF CARS ARE ON HIS PROPERTY NOT TAGGED THE CHESWOLD POLICE SHOULD BE TOWING THEM AWAY.
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 01:49 am |
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| You're funny Someone, keep posting!
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 01:37 am |
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| I just got the word from Newszap, the people of Cheswold just set the record for most posts in a 3 hour period. Congratulations Cheswold see you all can do something right. I am sure we will see the story in the paper tomorrow. Last edited on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 01:39 am by Someone
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 12:58 am |
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How about this Miss Know it All:
How come Ryan complained about all the junk arround town but never Peter's property, trashed and having all those untagged cars sitting around?
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 12:12 am |
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| I have noticed you do NOTHING but play.
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White Knight
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 12:00 am |
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I don't play or haven't you noticed.
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 11:32 pm |
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| You certainly weren't playing the part of Dorothy!
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White Knight
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 11:05 pm |
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I haven't seen that since I left the yellow brick road.
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 09:33 pm |
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Isn't that what you are looking for - a peaceful and harmonious life for all.
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White Knight
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 09:30 pm |
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I'll bet you do.
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 09:29 pm |
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I want for nothing but peace and harmony amongst everyone here 
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White Knight
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 09:28 pm |
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The wait for what you want will be beyond your lifetime.
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 08:27 pm |
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| Nine lives? We can wait it out.
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Helen here
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 06:48 pm |
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| poor earl has been wiped out three times this year and once last year
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 06:33 pm |
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Earl MUST die 
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Helen here
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 06:30 pm |
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WK so i wonder are you tring to get this topic closed again
Guess earls gotta die heh heh heh
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 06:28 pm |
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White Knight wrote: White Knight wrote: I'M JUST STARTING SO SHUT THE HELL UP!
This can be defined as "classic"
That can be defined as childish.
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 03:57 pm |
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White Knight wrote: I'M JUST STARTING SO SHUT THE HELL UP!
This can be defined as "classic"
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Luna Eclipse
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 03:38 am |
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Someone wrote: I see the classic Ms. Knight reply,,, HUH???
By the way I lost track, are we coming on that time of the month yet??
Classic!
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 11:22 pm |
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| Better get ready for the BIG meeting.. Sorry can't come to see how well you all get a long, but I am sure i will read about it. Have a good night and don't hurt one another.
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 11:19 pm |
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No dear, of course not. I enjoy your postings.
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 11:16 pm |
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| Some day i will, but while you keep writing, i will. But do i need to check with you if i can write here?
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 11:08 pm |
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I'M JUST STARTING SO SHUT THE HELL UP!
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 10:46 pm |
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I see the classic Ms. Knight reply,,, HUH???
By the way I lost track, are we coming on that time of the month yet??
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Helen here
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 01:05 am |
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| HUH??????
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Helen here
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 12:46 am |
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White Knight wrote: White Knight wrote: Please post the truth not insinuations that you cannot prove - Helen does enough of that - or perhaps you ARE Helen????????????
I should read this more ( did i say something that didn't happen in town hall with in the past year that can not be back up by records or another person) does that explain betterLast edited on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 01:17 am by Helen here
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Bugger Face wrote: My mom said that was not helen posting. she said someone else wrote what she said. She said helen knows all about nose rings ha ha
ah what wise child you are to listen to your mother's words ! but my thing is tatoo heh heh heh ( the rub on kind !
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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 12:13 am |
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My mom said that was not helen posting. she said someone else wrote what she said. She said helen knows all about nose rings ha ha
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White Knight wrote: helen, stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know d**n well nobody has won anything. Quit insinuating there is some secret lawsuit lurking in the wind. That is just not so and you know it.
key word you missed is yet!
I didn't say a new secret law suit was lurking in the wind, I was reminding all that there is one more that will give the answer to where and when most of the town's trouble began and who were the main persons responsible.
Most already know the when ( 2003 to 2005)
Is it true the rumor about you being Peter ? if so you may wish to read section 4 of the towns charter and 6.4.3 also !
But I would be totally shocked if it you were for the Peter I knew would never be led by a nose ring ! He would admit he was wrong and try to do what was right ! or at least work with the council to help fix any deficiency that needed to be address.
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Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 03:46 pm |
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helen, stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know d**n well nobody has won anything. Quit insinuating there is some secret lawsuit lurking in the wind. That is just not so and you know it.
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Helen here
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Posted: Sun Jul 30th, 2006 07:40 am |
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Helen here wrote: looks like 2 for 2 and 1 more to go now if the police are right then who is wrong !heh heh heh heh
So you still think Ryan was leading you down the road to righteousness
Ahh yes two cases that were the slimmest have prevailed the one case that has the most merit then of the others ones has not come to light yet ( and it it is not the Ryan action will show the truth about what evil lurks with in the minds of others. Remember he Ryan was a paid employee and he can be sued privately for any actions that he personally caused harm Last edited on Sun Jul 30th, 2006 10:22 pm by Helen here
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Posted: Sat Jul 29th, 2006 03:00 pm |
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RED HERRING ALERT!
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White Knight wrote: The Town Council knew from the very beginning that the renegades wanted Vann back. Don't blame Ryan. This is not over with Vann until the fat lady sings.
not this one
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Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2006 01:36 pm |
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I just knew Candyman could not go a day without screwing something up! When asked by Miller for comments regarding the Vann situation he stated the situation "was a bag of worms" Now I ask you folks....Is that an appropriate remark for the mayor of a town who is being sued to make about the case???????????
Once a renegade always a renegade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2006 12:37 pm |
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The Town Council knew from the very beginning that the renegades wanted Vann back. Don't blame Ryan. This is not over with Vann until the fat lady sings.
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Helen here
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Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2006 04:20 am |
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looks like 2 for 2 and 1 more to go now if the police are right then who is wrong !heh heh heh heh
So you still think Ryan was leading you down the road to righteousness
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Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2006 03:57 am |
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Luna Eclipse wrote: WK thinks she is a representation of what the whole town thinks and feels, the truth is, it is farther from the truth. Many, many residents agree Ryan needs to go down!
Many, many???? How about 6 or 7????????
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Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2006 03:30 am |
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Very interesting. You have never met Mr. Ryan and you know nothing about what he has accomplished, nothing about the circumstances of his contract, nothing about the legal theories of the case yet you claim Mr. Ryan will not be cast in a favorable light at trial. Well, my friend it will not be Mr. Ryan who is cast in a bad light but the Cheswold Town Counsel. Mr. Ryan is not my hero but I do think he got shafted and I would love to see him win his case based on the merits of his lawsuit.
Those of you who think other wise are going to be in for a total shock - and I'll leave it at that.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2006 02:59 am |
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White Knight -- I am responding to the portions of your post that were dircted toward myself. You are nothing but a half-assed bully who likes to beat people, whose expressed views differ from your own, into submission with your surly remarks as to their background and intelligence level, which you really like to portray as being significantly beneath your own. You are wrong!
I can only guess as to why you are blindly standing out there essentially alone in your unending support and defense of Mr. Ryan, unless you are Mr. Ryan or somebody with a vested interest in the outcome of this case beyond that of an ordinary cheswold property owner/resident. You have missed the boat completely with your suggestion that I dislike Mr. Ryan. I have never talked to him, never been in his company at any time, and really have no axe to grind with him.
I also have no proof of any wrongdoing on his part, except for his entering into an employment agreement with cheswold for the town manager position, which may have been in violation of the town charter, and perhaps constituted an abuse of the public trust by him and two then-council members.
I reject your suggestion that I study world history or that of cheswold. The old saying you repeated is exactly that -- an old saying that has no relevance in the present circumstances. Concerning that, I am completely prepared to leave the law up to the lawyers, and recommend that you do the same. While you like to profess to be all-knowing, all-seeing, on every subject you appear to the remainder of the universe to be completely qualified to obtain a reflective white cane with a red tip.
I submit to this forum my opinion that Mr. Ryan, obtained $1,000 per week from the public funds as the town manager in return for having accomplished near nothing but to create trouble for town citizens and the town government which began with his entering into an employment agreement that the then-effective town charter prohibited him from doing. Because he was a council person up until that point in time, he knew of the charter prohibition and, with the then-mayor and then-treasurer, essentially thumbed their collective noses at the charter prohibition by executing the agreement.
I find it so very interesting that Mr. Ryan deems it appropriate to retain the services of a high-powered attorney in an effort to further enrich himself in resolving a problem that he was a central figure in creating for the town. You go right ahead and continue to support and defend your hero, Mr. Ryan. The decision rendered at trial may not cast such a favorable light on him. All the above is, of course, only my humble opioion.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26th, 2006 10:19 pm |
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Both of you are wishful thinking. I wonder why you dislike Mr. Ryan so much. I'll bet you never even have talked to him and I know you have no proof of any wrongdoing. So why don't you like him and why do you think he will lose his lawsuit. Observer, you apparently are not a student of history or you would never make such a uninformed statement that past history has nothing to do with the present. Past history has everything to do with the present. Study your history of the world and you will discover that fact.
Have you never heard the old saying "If you always do the things you always did then you will always get what you've always got." And there is the reason Cheswold will always lose their lawsuits. They always do what they have always done.
You sweeties better leave the law for the laywers. You both are making fools out of yourselves by giving opinions about something you know nothing about.
You must be two of the Renegades because those are the only people I have met who would like to see Mr. Ryan lose his case. All of the more educated people in town are pulling for Mr. Ryan.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26th, 2006 08:51 pm |
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| WK thinks she is a representation of what the whole town thinks and feels, the truth is, it is farther from the truth. Many, many residents agree Ryan needs to go down!
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Posted: Wed Jul 26th, 2006 08:49 pm |
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White Knight -- It really doesn't matter that the cheswold fire company has not won its case in court. Your question as to why cheswold has never won a lawsuit is best answered in this manner: Historical performance should not be used as guidance for future results. Each case is unique, and the Ryan v town case is much different. The town will prevail in that case, hands down, thus the Ryan team offer to the town for a settlement.
Some people (non-residents of cheswold) are wishing that there was pari-mutuel betting permitted on the Ryan case. The town residents have already placed their bets. Some of those bets were taken under mis-management by the 2005 town council.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26th, 2006 06:58 pm |
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Post a link, I will give it a look.
I just could not resist visiting.
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