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Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2009 03:29 pm |
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One who cares wrote: Where is the forum?
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One who cares wrote: Has anyone seen the mustangs that someone dumped out in the back of Montura? I can't believe the BLM is having another "auction" this weekend in Palm Beach County! Why not just send some more horses out into the public and not keep tabs on them either!?!?!
You are so right, it is sickining on how these animals look, they have a forum going about it right now, firefly, posted the article out of the paper for all to read.. the BLM should be held responsible for these horses,
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Has anyone seen the mustangs that someone dumped out in the back of Montura? I can't believe the BLM is having another "auction" this weekend in Palm Beach County! Why not just send some more horses out into the public and not keep tabs on them either!?!?!
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Sick of animal abuse and neglect! wrote:  I totally understand why you wouldn't want anyone to take their pets to a "kill" shelter, but what you may not know is that even "no-kill" shelters have to put animals to sleep. It is not the shelter that is at fault with the whole 'no-kill' movement, it is the breeders that endlessly breed animals that WILL end up in shelters, whether it be a 'no-kill' or 'kill' shelter.
The shelters that put animals to sleep more often need your help, they need your support so they don't have to euthanize. If no one supports them, they have to euthanize more because of the lack of funds to keep them longer periods of time. So in effect, by not supporting them you are actually making it more necessary to euthanize.......
Volunteer to work on transfering animals from high-kill shelters to lower-kill shelters. That makes a huge difference! I know that is what the labelle shelter does. They send large amounts of animals to the shelters along the cost where adoption numbers are higher so they don't have to euthanize to make room for all the animals they take in every month.
Anyway, off subject.
off to clean the barn!
With our economic hard times to more zoo's and shelters are and have closed there doors leaving once again the animals to pay the ultimate price. I don't like the idea of breeding any more animals until all the animals in every shelter find homes. I want to save every animal I see or find and have been known to bring home many , test, do shots, worming and find good homes. I commend those on the front lines and opening their personal doors to rescuing a poor soul in need. Where is the Labelle shelter located? I just moved here and am having a wonderful time exploring the west coast. I'm sure that no one that runs a shelter wants to euthanize any animal unless there suffering and yes it's so sad there lives to to that. I stopped at I think the " Hess " station down town and saw a young maybe 6 month old female beautiful cat on the wall, she was a bit wet from the rain and looked hungry, I went into the store looking for a can of food for her but they said they didn't sell any. I thought ok, meat, what can I give her. I spyed a LARGE slim jim, man I didn't know they made um that huge lol. I said you have a cat out side and she looks hungry. The woman said yeah she's been hanging around here and many have tried to catch her but she's to wild. I said lets see, so out I went with this huge slim jim, I called to her, The girl said wow she meaows loud, I looked at her and said no that was me calling to her lol. She came up cautious and took some off the wall, then closer, and closer. She turned her back to eat and ( I'm to slow now) I reached for her, got my hands on her back but she slipped away. She didn't turn with claws out so that was good. After that she was very skittish but I'll go back and try it again. She needs fixed before more kittens will be born feral there.
Any how, If I can ever help with an animal issue, question or resolution please ask. Barn hun,, do you have horses? lol My granddaughters coming for the summer and she loves horses. There's a few down the road and I thought of getting some apples and walking down to road with her when she comes and letting her give them an apple. Also were going to horselovers so she can ride Royal and I get to see my friend Horselover again.
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I totally understand why you wouldn't want anyone to take their pets to a "kill" shelter, but what you may not know is that even "no-kill" shelters have to put animals to sleep. It is not the shelter that is at fault with the whole 'no-kill' movement, it is the breeders that endlessly breed animals that WILL end up in shelters, whether it be a 'no-kill' or 'kill' shelter.
The shelters that put animals to sleep more often need your help, they need your support so they don't have to euthanize. If no one supports them, they have to euthanize more because of the lack of funds to keep them longer periods of time. So in effect, by not supporting them you are actually making it more necessary to euthanize.......
Volunteer to work on transfering animals from high-kill shelters to lower-kill shelters. That makes a huge difference! I know that is what the labelle shelter does. They send large amounts of animals to the shelters along the cost where adoption numbers are higher so they don't have to euthanize to make room for all the animals they take in every month.
Anyway, off subject.
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| Well congrats again for your efforts to help the ones with no voices. I love all animals and it's heart breaking to know that so many wonderful animals are killed daily thought shelters simply because no one wanted them any more. How heartless is that? I do not support any kill shelters and never will. I have sent letters and encouraged others not to give there animals to the death sentance that awaits them with in the walls of the prison. I love the resuces that are real rescues that open there homes to keeping the fur babies in there care close to them to socialize them, bond, care and teach them love and trust. People that will take the time to foster , home check and insist on paper work not simply hand over a fur baby to any one whom might do it harm or worse. I go to great lengths when I adopt to make sure that furbaby is going to the proper home that can best care for the baby and not end up back in the system in which it came from. I commend any and all of these rescues that honestly care and screen potential parents. Please help a starving abdondened animal today. Last edited on Sat Feb 21st, 2009 08:31 am by Luna
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there is a rescue in fellsmere, that can really use someone to take some of her horses, do you know anyone who is in need of just a pasture horse, she has a few of them, she has 13 soon to be 16 horses in total...,she also has some rideble ones,
let me know if you would,
I dont take in alot , due to the fact that the more hands on I can give the better the horses recoup, and so I can find them homes faster and better homes, because when they leave they are what I state they are, no matter if its a childs horse or for the experienced rider,,,,cudos to you for what you are doing,
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Posted: Fri Feb 20th, 2009 03:17 am |
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I have a bunch of loving people who help, donating their time and money.
Sorry for any misunderstandings before, but as I said, I may have misunderstood you.
We will be working a group of horses soon, so.........here we go again! lol
Keep up the good work n keep your boots stomped!
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Posted: Thu Feb 19th, 2009 10:43 pm |
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Congrats!! I adore folks like you that reach out to the helpless voices that with only there sad eyes and boney bodies can tell us their horriffic tales. Keep up the excellent work doing what you love. I can't imagine not rescueing animals. I know horse lover would do any thing as well to help in any way she and her family can to. With the animals you've rescued last year which is a LOT, what became of them all? Did you keep the dogs and cats in your home or placed with other fosters? That's 50 dogs and cats per month which is a lot. Who buys all the food? I know I did rescueing for years and know what it cost me and our rescue it adds up fast plus vet bills and quarintined rooms becase you can't take new inkakes and put them with the gp until blood work, fecal examine, and for cats flv/ FLP and other tests done before they can be released with others.
Goddess Blessings,
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Well, now that you have asked......
in 2008
23 horses
over 400 dogs
over 200 cats
2 hedgehogs
4 ferrets
28 parrots
Not kidding either, but I understand why u asked. Keep up the great work you are doing as I will be continuing my work. Maybe if more folks could there wouldn't be such a great need.
God Bless you
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| No, I didn't misunderstand your post, just doing what I feel is right for me, what you do is up to you. I tend to give to any animal any where and at any time. I have a roof over my head, food in my belly and cloths on my back, these starving animals weather local or in another state don't even have the luxery of food and as you can see in the picture of the horse these animals need our help. Yes I understand local so here's my question to you, if you want to keep it local, what are and have you been doing to rescue a horse lately, dog, cat, puppy, kitten, what foods, blankets or home have you offered a local animal in need. Have you taken a standed, starving animal to a vets this year or last year since we've just started this year and paid for the care of an animal you didn't know? Have you opened your home to take in and foster a local animal in need last year , this year, or any year? I'm just curious. I have personally done all these things for 45 years, Horse lover takes in larger animal because she has the room, I don't so I have to go smaller. I commend any one whom takes the time to reach out to our animal world and save a life. If you see a turtle on the road do you stop right away , get out and put the turtle down the embankment as to not get hit? if you see an injured animal , do you stop put it in your car and take it to the vets? yes I have so many times risking life and limb but it's all in a days work for me. Please give what you can, time and money if even a dollar, it all adds up. Last edited on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 04:09 pm by Luna
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| I personally have seen what horse lover is talking about, there are quit a few places on the coast that will not give a horse away even if the animal needs a home they want from 200 to 1,000 for them, from what I can see you owe Horselover and apology, her statement was most not all and YOU jumped to conclusions and insulted her, that was not nice of you, you should have said, maybe I mis-understood you, what did you mean by your statement, instead of pointing the finger and shaking it, I dont know horselover but from what I have read on other forums, she is a really nice person and does a great job with these horses, you were the one being nasty, so, sick and tired of abuse and neglect, why dont you help her out instead of pointing your finger, or as my dad would have said put your money where your mounth is!! as far as I can tell from reading other forums she has adopted out 25 horses since july of last year with acharge of 0.00 for them, all the feed back I am reading is good nothing bad but yours so please stop and think of the service this lady is providing that is saving hundreds of tax dollars of yours and mine and also able to save these poor defenseless animals from more torture
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horselover wrote: most rescues not all charge an astronomical fee to adopt there horses, I in turn , most go out for free and others for 50 to 100.00 , all my horses get ALL shots needed, not just required ones, most of the rescues I have found are what you would class as a horse broker, they get them in then SELL them they do not adopt them out, unless they are a 501c3, The little girl you see in the picture below has gained about 100 pounds since we have gotten her, she was in alot worse shape than her picture shows, i do not make a living on these animals, I actually lose money, and thats the point I do it for the animal not the money, as witch 33 will tell you all my horses are very cared for at this moment I have 5, in which one is my own personal horse, but he was a resuce that came in at about 900 pounds now look to your left his picture is beside my name, he is now 1400 pounds and 17 hands , I see alot of rescues taking in more than they can handle, i know of 2 right now one has 17 horses on 8 acres and the other has 13 on 5 acres, now this is wrong, way to many, they dont have room to graze at all and very little grass to boot, I will be the first to tell you , I have 5 acres for grazing and 2 stalls, my max is 6 horses at a time, I will only take in the starved or abused I will not take a healthy horse, I will help the owner find a home for it if they plan on giving it away, people dont understand how expensive it is to actually give these creatures the things they need the right way, i will give you an example
this is for one horse average cost
hay per week 15.00 square bale
feed per week 14.00 good complete feed
wormer average 10.00 per month
hooves average 35.00 per month
this is just an average of about 200.00 per horse per month and this is for a horse that is in ok shape not one whos weight is very low,
then you can add beet pulp, and corn oil on top of that,
alot of counties do not have a rescue facility at all okeechobee only has animal control that has a facility and then they go off th auction or a different counties 501 can come in and get them........
If you read my statement it says most not ALL, I think you mis understood what I was saying, let me put this to you straight, I will help as many other organizations as I can with animals, doesn`t matter if its a horse or a dog or cat, alot of counties do NOT have facilities to maintain large animals, so it is people like myself and others that keep these animals from reoccurring torture,, I DO NOT appreciate your comment about me saying I am right and others are wrong, as I stated I do NOT do this as a business I do this for the animals, I also know of caloosa and I think the girls do a wonderful job with there animals, and yes you are right they do charge a minimal fee,and I do believe they are a 501c3, but when a SUPPOSED rescue charges 500 plus to adopt a horse that is being a horse broker, and there are alot of them around, some in FT Pierce and some north of that,
Oh yeah, I did forget one thing.....
Donate local, then if you can, donate elsewhere! That is what is needed in your area.
Check out what your local humane society is doing. They need your support.
Give them a call, they will welcome your questions, suggestions, support!
our counties humane society, is run by foster parents, and they have no room for horses, heck, they dont even have a facility for the dogs or cats so they have to turn some away, now that sucks.....
in closing, I would like to say that, I in no way down a TRUE horse rescue, but I do have problems with horse brokers, they are alot of the problem with these large babies,
I took a horse from one of the supposed rescues I was telling you about, now please keep in mind they are to do whats best for the animal, this particular horse is an arabian , really pretty girl now, she was in mud up to her ankles, had not had her feet done in months, nor been wormed, her tail and mane were barely there due to her care, and you could not touch her, now she will love on you, and she has a mane and tail and is a wonderful, girl, she needs a loving home, but I will be very very particular on where she goes due to the past she has had, and thats only one case, I have seen from people that call themselves rescues......so please do not take it as I am saying all are bad they are not but its the few that give the rest of us a bad name and make people sceptical about us
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Oh yeah, I did forget one thing.....
Donate local, then if you can, donate elsewhere! That is what is needed in your area.
Check out what your local humane society is doing. They need your support.
Give them a call, they will welcome your questions, suggestions, support!
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Posted: Tue Feb 17th, 2009 12:41 pm |
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WOW!
As I explained below, I believe you should "keep it local"........Donate local and then give elsewhere! Read the whole post please.
Your concept of what other organizations are or do is NOT CORRECT! You are not sounding very nice, I may be misunderstanding you, but you sound like your saying your rescue is the ONLY rescue that does it right! YOU ARE WRONG! I have adopted from the Caloosa Humane Society and they did not charge an adoption fee for any of the horses they had at the time I adopted, which was about 2 months ago, because they said they had donations to cover the costs of taking care of the horses that they had at that time.
Now they have new horses, and I just found out that 2 of them were just adopted out together at a nominal fee to keep them together and get them into an excellent home.
Again I say, YOU ARE WRONG, and it is very sad to see that you would spread untruths about another rescue(s) just to get money for yours. Very sad indeed!
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I was speaking to my father last night, animal control in the county he lives went in an took 23 horses from a man , they were really bad, now the problem is animal control only has facilities for 5 not 23, they are looking for fosters, but due to the economy, most likely the 5 best will be picked out and the others killed,, this particular person has been in jail now for months and has been sentenced to 3 years in the state pen, I think they should cut off his fingers for what he has done to those animals, keeping it local is not an option, there are horses coming from as far as pensecola to rescues here, if you look at keeping it local, call one of your horse rescues and ask them what they charge to adopt a horse and there list of stipulations, then you will understand keeping it local is NOT and option...
most counties animal control nor humane society is not equipt to maintain such a large animal, and if they are they are put on the auction block and sold to the highest bider, then in turn it may have a good home or end up right back where it started starved, neglected, or abused, and back on the auction block again, poor guys I feel for them.
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Well Witch 33 I didn't say to limit giving to local......ever! I said to give local if theres a need and if you can give elsewhere.
Thats whats wrong with this country. Everyone donating to foriegn entities without ever a thought to whats going on next door. It is very sad that you misunderstood my post because I would have never said to limit giving to local without a thought to elsewhere.
Sorry you didn't understand my post
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I disagree with keeping it local. I believe animals all over weather here or in Ga that need our help and we can give it we should. I have personally left my husband and fur kids to donate my time and money to Hurricane Katrina's animals that were left ownerless, treading water and a horse standing on a front porch because it was the only dry spot. Life is life and local or foreign isn't the issue here, it's responsibilty for the care and protection of our fur kids. Not every sperm deserves a name ( via the late great Carlin). My heart really goes out to all the animals I'm not able to rescue or help. Sue and her families huge heart speaks for it's self and in the most humble of ways. I know you meant well in your thoughts but for me I can't limit my self to local, it has to be global...
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most rescues not all charge an astronomical fee to adopt there horses, I in turn , most go out for free and others for 50 to 100.00 , all my horses get ALL shots needed, not just required ones, most of the rescues I have found are what you would class as a horse broker, they get them in then SELL them they do not adopt them out, unless they are a 501c3, The little girl you see in the picture below has gained about 100 pounds since we have gotten her, she was in alot worse shape than her picture shows, i do not make a living on these animals, I actually lose money, and thats the point I do it for the animal not the money, as witch 33 will tell you all my horses are very cared for at this moment I have 5, in which one is my own personal horse, but he was a resuce that came in at about 900 pounds now look to your left his picture is beside my name, he is now 1400 pounds and 17 hands , I see alot of rescues taking in more than they can handle, i know of 2 right now one has 17 horses on 8 acres and the other has 13 on 5 acres, now this is wrong, way to many, they dont have room to graze at all and very little grass to boot, I will be the first to tell you , I have 5 acres for grazing and 2 stalls, my max is 6 horses at a time, I will only take in the starved or abused I will not take a healthy horse, I will help the owner find a home for it if they plan on giving it away, people dont understand how expensive it is to actually give these creatures the things they need the right way, i will give you an example
this is for one horse average cost
hay per week 15.00 square bale
feed per week 14.00 good complete feed
wormer average 10.00 per month
hooves average 35.00 per month
this is just an average of about 200.00 per horse per month and this is for a horse that is in ok shape not one whos weight is very low,
then you can add beet pulp, and corn oil on top of that,
alot of counties do not have a rescue facility at all okeechobee only has animal control that has a facility and then they go off th auction or a different counties 501 can come in and get them........
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I know there are alot of horses out there that need our help desperately, however, I also believe in keeping it local....meaning, donate to your local horse rescues and if you have extra, give to other rescues. I don't want to stop or deter anyone from donating to any reputable horse rescue, but if your local humane society is rescuing horses, they desperately need your donations! I know that the Caloosa Humane Society has recently taken in 3 horses and a donkey and they already had a pony that had been severely beaten AND starved!
Please dig deep! The horses are at the mercy of these sick people who either refuse to properly care for them or just don't know what the H*LL they are doing!
I know there are many places that are being investigated within Hendry and Glades Counties that have more than 5 horses each! There is a great need for donations of feed and quality nutritous hay and suppliments like electrolites, weight builders, biotin suppliments etc...
I wish all the horse rescues luck in their work as it is, sadly, an unending reality that horses will need to be rescued.
If you can buy a bag of feed or a bale or roll of good hay, donate what you can
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I have met sue and her wonderful family both fur and human and I will be the 1st to tell you she is doing a fantactic job and service to rescueing these horses that these pictures can't begin to do justice to how bad they are health wise and need the food and care to get them back on track. I know you reading this article have a heart and want to help as much as I do. If you just take the time to call in one bag of food which is about 14.00 once or as often as you can which amounts to no more then one trip to Mc Donalds it would be so appericated. If you can't afford 14.00 which I can certianly understand to with hard economic times, you can simply call in what you can afford and it will go towards supplies that the hourses need now. One dollar plus another plus another dollar all adds up folks so please give what you can. Sue and her family put all their love and care into the horses they had rescued. They are true hero's with hearts bigger then Florida. Keep doing what your doing Sue and David your fantastic people! Sue's rescue donations are at 100.00 right now and she needs 400.00 in dontations to feed the horses right now , every dollar counts and your dontation will help achieve her goal for the horse at this time. Thank you ahead of time.
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Hi mine name is lucy , I am a 20 year old mare that has been put to pasture to starve, I could really use some help from you wonderful people, I need to gain about 300 pounds at the least, I have found a wonderful place that would take me , but due to the economy they are having a rough time caring for us, they adopt us out for free or a minimum fee of 50 to 100 dollars, if you would like to donate you can call glisson feed in sebring 863-471-3333, or you can call miss Sue if you have any old blankets , wormer buckets, halters ,bridles etc, please help us we deserve it,
we appreciate anything you do for us
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