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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 08:41 pm
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urallposers wrote: The sad face in the last post is for those who make the wrong choice.

American Psychological Association,  My question to you is, who are these people anyway??? Have they ever made a person out of the dust of the Earth. Oh, you know what? They never created an Earth, so they don't own any dust to make a human out of. What do they know? Don't you think our creator knows what is best for us?? Just something to think about....


 

Oh come on,  we all make wrong choices,  that includes you,  to think otherwise is so arrogant it is blasphamey.  Yes,  I  do know that our creator know's what is best for us.  All of us. That includes homosexuals. Obviously these people are Phychologists,  of the American Phycological Association.  That should be pretty elementary.

 

IMO There are Real christians and then there are people who call themselves christians. I can tell the difference by the behavior towards differnce.  There is one thing that I know God looks down upon and that is INTOLERANCE!  Just something to think about.

 

any way back to Foxx's comment,  I simply do not see how it is racist.  It is a fact,  Mike is a black man so what is the big deal?  I do not get it?





 



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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 08:37 pm
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urallposers wrote: First of all I do not ASSume to know what your talking about secondly you do not have to reprouce to stay alive. They do if they don't want their species to go on:shock:....humans becoming extinct, interesting. Many couples cannot reproduce,  your point is moot. You are obviously mistaken.  Thirdly I never CLAIMED it was a double standard for you to agree with racism. 

You my dear are the one who is misconstuing ( misconstruing) words. :shock:

Agian could you please provide some back up that being a honosexual (homosexual) is a choice.

You know what I think? It is clear that we are never going to agree. You read my last post and my response to homosexuality being a choice is in it. I AM a Christian, I DO believe EVERYTHING the bible says. I DO believe it is THE WORD OF GOD. I DO NOT believe God would have people born homosexual if He was going to call them an abomination and let them go to hell. I DO NOT believe He makes mistakes. I DO believe He loves us all and gives us the choice.   :(

 

No,  Iam not mistaken,  many couples cannot reproduce,  FACT!   Iam  a christian and You are 100% correct,  were not going to agree. ;)  I do not throw stones at homosexuals.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 08:30 pm
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The sad face in the last post is for those who make the wrong choice.

American Psychological Association,  My question to you is, who are these people anyway??? Have they ever made a person out of the dust of the Earth. Oh, you know what? They never created an Earth, so they don't own any dust to make a human out of. What do they know? Don't you think our creator knows what is best for us?? Just something to think about....

 

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First of all I do not ASSume to know what your talking about secondly you do not have to reprouce to stay alive. They do if they don't want their species to go on:shock:....humans becoming extinct, interesting. Many couples cannot reproduce,  your point is moot. You are obviously mistaken.  Thirdly I never CLAIMED it was a double standard for you to agree with racism. 

You my dear are the one who is misconstuing ( misconstruing) words. :shock:

Agian could you please provide some back up that being a honosexual (homosexual) is a choice.

You know what I think? It is clear that we are never going to agree. You read my last post and my response to homosexuality being a choice is in it. I AM a Christian, I DO believe EVERYTHING the bible says. I DO believe it is THE WORD OF GOD. I DO NOT believe God would have people born homosexual if He was going to call them an abomination and let them go to hell. I DO NOT believe He makes mistakes. I DO believe He loves us all and gives us the choice.   :(

 

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urallposers wrote: American Psychological Association released a Statement on Homosexuality in 1994-JUL. Their first two paragraphs are:


The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals.

Nor is homosexuality a matter of individual choice. Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early in the life cycle, possibly even before birth. It is found in about ten percent of the population, a figure which is surprisingly constant across cultures, irrespective of the different moral values and standards of a particular culture. Contrary to what some imply, the incidence of homosexuality in a population does not appear to change with new moral codes or social mores. Research findings suggest that efforts to repair homosexuals are nothing more than social prejudice garbed in psychological accouterments.

As for this, are you aware that in the bible those who turn away from God, deny him and continue such practices as these, are then turned over to a reprebate mind? ( Notice the change of mind) If not, there's something for you to look up. Could it be that this explains the difference in those people? They chose that life and so God let them have it. We are free moral agents, free to make our own choice on who our God will be and choose where we will spend eternity....heaven or hell. He loved us enough to send His ONLY son to die for us. He tells us what is right and wrong, He isn't going to beg.


You also realize in the bible it say's that you are to have a personal relationship with GOD?  To keep your eyes on yourself. The Bible says nothing about homosexual people being sent to hell. In God's eyes all sin is the same.  that includes your sin.  Iam sure right now God is not happy with your attitude toward's  "homo's" and who you claim he will choose to survive on a island.  Only He knows that.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 08:04 pm
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Here is a fantastic article form Canada news....

Monday, June 08, 2009
More Proof That God Loves Homosexuality

From Canada's CBC News:
Keepers at Germany's Bremerhaven zoo couldn't get two penguin parents to take care of their egg, so they're trying an experiment — they gave the egg to a gay male penguin couple.
The biological parents "always rolled the egg out of their nest, they kicked it out again and again," zoo veterinarian Joachim Schoene said.

"Then we made the decision not to give it up and instead try to give it two fathers."

So far, the experiment has been a success. The two foster dads incubated the egg for 30 days until it hatched and have continued to care for the newborn chick.

You know, I just love stories like this. Despite all of the scientific progress that has taken place over the years, there are still a lot of people in the United States who argue that homosexuality is unnatural. Organizations like the innocuously-named "Family Research Council" are still actively preaching this idea. It's not enough for them to simply claim that their religion forbids it. They take it about a zillion steps further and go on to assert that science backs their beliefs. On their website you can find statements like this.

Family Research Council believes that homosexual conduct is harmful to the persons who engage in it and to society at large, and can never be affirmed. It is by definition unnatural, and as such is associated with negative physical and psychological health effects. While the origins of same-sex attractions may be complex, there is no convincing evidence that a homosexual identity is ever something genetic or inborn.
Sadly, many people just aren't educated enough to be able to refute homophobic, pseudo-scientific declarations like this. We can't stop homophobes like the FRC from spreading their hateful message, but people can work to spread the truth that will allow others to see through them. Cute stories like this one where the gay penguins saved the life of a baby penguin that the heterosexual couple didn't want are undeniable evidence that homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. Not only that, homosexuality plays a very important role in nature. If there is a God who is responsible for the creation of the universe, science shows that are very good reasons why he'd be so fond of homosexuality.

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urallposers wrote: Of course when you take what I say completely the way I expected you would....If they are couples, you could assume that they are about 20 years old....after 75 years, with no chance of reproduction, it is safe to say that all the homosexuals would be dead and they would have no way of keeping the cycle going. Which is why it is obvious that the natural order is ONE MAN & ONE WOMAN !! :dude:

As for the comment about being a homophobe....I have two men in my family that play a big role in my life and they are both homosexual. I love them very much. I despise the sin in their lives. I do not accept it and I pray that one day they will turn from that life and be who they were truely meant to be.:)

It is absolutely not a double standard for me to not agree with racism....we are to LOVE one another ALL the time, no matter what the race is. :cool:I merely said that racism is REDICULOUS!! GET OVER IT ALREADY!! If you harbour hatered, you will surely die and go to hell. I do not hate homosexuals...I despise their sin.:(

 LOVE THE PERSON, NOT THE ACTION!! :D

Now, misconstrue those words, like I know you will.;)

 

 

First of all I do not ASSume to know what your talking about secondly you do not have to reprouce to stay alive.  Many couples cannot reproduce,  your point is moot.  Thirdly I never CLAIMED it was a double standard for you to agree with racism. 
i said it is a double standard for you to preach negativley about homosexuals but then whine about racism.  If you cannot see the connection you are blinded with ignorance.
You my dear are the one who is misconstuing words. :shock:

Agian could you please provide some back up that being a honosexual is a choice with fact not opinion from conservative christians.

 

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American Psychological Association released a Statement on Homosexuality in 1994-JUL. Their first two paragraphs are:


The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals.

Nor is homosexuality a matter of individual choice. Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early in the life cycle, possibly even before birth. It is found in about ten percent of the population, a figure which is surprisingly constant across cultures, irrespective of the different moral values and standards of a particular culture. Contrary to what some imply, the incidence of homosexuality in a population does not appear to change with new moral codes or social mores. Research findings suggest that efforts to repair homosexuals are nothing more than social prejudice garbed in psychological accouterments.

As for this, are you aware that in the bible those who turn away from God, deny him and continue such practices as these, are then turned over to a reprebate mind? ( Notice the change of mind) If not, there's something for you to look up. Could it be that this explains the difference in those people? They chose that life and so God let them have it. We are free moral agents, free to make our own choice on who our God will be and choose where we will spend eternity....heaven or hell. He loved us enough to send His ONLY son to die for us. He tells us what is right and wrong, He isn't going to beg.

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Of course when you take what I say completely the way I expected you would....If they are couples, you could assume that they are about 20 years old....after 75 years, with no chance of reproduction, it is safe to say that all the homosexuals would be dead and they would have no way of keeping the cycle going. Which is why it is obvious that the natural order is ONE MAN & ONE WOMAN !! :dude:

As for the comment about being a homophobe....I have two men in my family that play a big role in my life and they are both homosexual. I love them very much. I despise the sin in their lives. I do not accept it and I pray that one day they will turn from that life and be who they were truely meant to be.:)

It is absolutely not a double standard for me to not agree with racism....we are to LOVE one another ALL the time, no matter what the race is. :cool:I merely said that racism is REDICULOUS!! GET OVER IT ALREADY!! If you harbour hatered, you will surely die and go to hell. I do not hate homosexuals...I despise their sin.:(

 LOVE THE PERSON, NOT THE ACTION!! :D

Now, misconstrue those words, like I know you will.;)

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I never said your comment was racist this is what i said.

Are you serious?  You are going to make negtive remarks about individuals being  racist then  YOU turn around and make some negative comment about homosexuality.   I just dont not get people anymore.   What a double standard.

 

I now think you are homphobic and your comments are highly offensive.

 

I think homosexuals are fully capable of planting their own seeds and would thrive on a island for 75 yrs with enough supplies  for that time. 


 You say..."I find it appauling that the freedom of speech we've heard so much about, only applies to certain groups of people."

LOL!! Pot kettle black.  What a huge contradiciton on your part.. 

 

"Homosexuality is not a RACE it is a CHOICE!" 

that is a opinion,  which you are entitled to however,  it is not a fact,  could you please provide some proof to your generalized blanket statement. 


I disagree,  homosexuality it is not a choice being a homphobe is!  here is just some of my back up.

American Psychological Association released a Statement on Homosexuality in 1994-JUL. Their first two paragraphs are:

The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals.

Nor is homosexuality a matter of individual choice. Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early in the life cycle, possibly even before birth. It is found in about ten percent of the population, a figure which is surprisingly constant across cultures, irrespective of the different moral values and standards of a particular culture. Contrary to what some imply, the incidence of homosexuality in a population does not appear to change with new moral codes or social mores. Research findings suggest that efforts to repair homosexuals are nothing more than social prejudice garbed in psychological accouterments.

 




 

 






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granny goose wrote: Are you serious?  You are going to make negtive remarks about individuals being  racist then  YOU turn around and make some negative comment about homosexuality.   I just dont not get people anymore.   What a double standard.

"When you return in 75 years.........Who do you think will be thriving and growing?"
 

Since there is only enough food and water for 75 years for 25 couples I highly doubt when someone  return's in 75 years  that the couples will be thriving and growing,  more than likley they will be starving to death.  I did say provide them with enough for that long, but after all that time, don't you think they would've used what they know already about planting seeds. Besides that, even if you gave them all 50 head of cattle when they left and were able to grow their own food, the homo's would still be DEAD!! Saying something about a gay person is not racist. Homosexuality is not a RACE it is a CHOICE!!


 


 


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I guess I just do not see what is so racist in his comment,  he was born to african american parents he is a black man who wanted to be white, he went as far as bleaching his skin and changing his apperance to look like a white man,  that does make him a white man.   I only see humor in the comment.   Maybe clarify your views to why this is a racist comment,  to you,   and I may understand your point of view better. 

 

 

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"I doubt it but we have to live by the judicial system we have in place and accept their decision."

 

You have got to be kidding me,  what I have to accept is that our judicial system is screwed up.  Next your gonna tell me Oj is innocent also. 

I make a judgement about  Jackson b/c he is a pediphile.  He rapes little boy's.  Then he pay's off the families and the judicial system so he can continue to rape little boy's.  Jamie foXX the COMEDIAN  made some silly remark that is getting everyones panties in wad. I have made a judgment about Foxx,  I do not find his remarks to be racist,  only a comedian being a comedian.  

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granny goose wrote: KuntryGurl wrote: Granny Goose wrote~He is a comedian,  I really do not see any racism in his comment,  only humor. I guess we don't think along the same lines when it comes to humor. Like I said Jackson's wives were white, his children and look at his skin. Do you think he would have found humor in this statement? Jokes of this kind are tasteless. Being a comedian is no excuse to say racist remarks. It is a cop out.  
Your right,  we do not think alike it does not bother me in the least,  he is a black man who wanted to be white and the black community can have him,  I could care a less what "wacko jacko thinks"  he is a black man.  What does having a white wife have to do with it?  how does that make him a white man?  I do not find his remarks racist,  in fact he is right on target.  I give the man NO credit,  being talented does not excuse child molester. remember he was FOUND NOT GUILTY on those charges. Were they right, I doubt it but we have to live by the judicial system we have in place and accept their decision. You say one (Foxx)is humor but judge (Jackson)??

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HavAgr8Day wrote: Remember a few months back Miley Cyrus was a victim of his racist views under the name of comedy. He called her a white B****.
No I  dont recall that,  I do not find that to be a racist comment but a inapropriate comment.  Since Iam not the least racist Im not sure where being black or white play's into the issues.  The word b*** is what is wrong.

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Remember a few months back Miley Cyrus was a victim of his racist views under the name of comedy. He called her a white B****.

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KuntryGurl wrote: Granny Goose wrote~He is a comedian,  I really do not see any racism in his comment,  only humor. I guess we don't think along the same lines when it comes to humor. Like I said Jackson's wives were white, his children and look at his skin. Do you think he would have found humor in this statement? Jokes of this kind are tasteless. Being a comedian is no excuse to say racist remarks. It is a cop out.  
Your right,  we do not think alike it does not bother me in the least,  he is a black man who wanted to be white and the black community can have him,  I could care a less what "wacko jacko thinks"  he is a black man he was born a black man.  What does having a white wife have to do with it?  how does that make him a white man?  I do not find his remarks racist,  in fact he is right on target.  I give the man NO credit,  being talented does not excuse child molester.  I am not racist I have no problem if you black white hispanic whatever however you are born a race and to deny yourself that race is racist to your own race. 

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flsr wrote: Does anyone recall the reason that Michaels own skin went from black to light? Didn't that start occurring about the time he decided to start drastically altering his appearance in other ways?
Yes,  he bleached his skin,  my grandson has been asking me why and how and what happened to his nose.  He wanted to be white.

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Granny Goose said He is a comedian,  I really do not see any racism in his comment,  only humor. I guess we don't think along the same lines when it comes to humor. Like I said Jackson's wives were white, his children and look at his skin. Do you think he would have found humor in this statement? Jokes of this kind are tasteless. Being a comedian is no excuse to say racist remarks. It is a cop out.  

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Does anyone recall the reason that Michaels own skin went from black to light? Didn't that start occurring about the time he decided to start drastically altering his appearance in other ways?

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He remarked that Jackson was one of them cause he was black and the white people could just borrow him.

 

He is a comedian,  I really do not see any racism in his comment,  only humor.

 

It really does not bother me.  The black community can have him. 

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Are you serious?  You are going to make negtive remarks about individuals being  racist then  YOU turn around and make some negative comment about homosexuality.   I just dont not get people anymore.   What a double standard.

"When you return in 75 years.........Who do you think will be thriving and growing?"
 

Since there is only enough food and water for 75 years for 25 couples I highly doubt when someone  return's in 75 years  that the couples will be thriving and growing,  more than likley they will be starving to death.

 


 

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Do you know what?? I wouldn't have watched those awards, just because he was hosting them!!! :X Frankly, I find it appauling that the freedom of speech we've heard so much about, only applies to certain groups of people. :shock: I agree with you, he has his issues to work out. However, as was shown the last time this issue was brought up, you can't get any intelligent information from this source. Everyone wants to start yelling racism and opression :(. Sad but true. When in reality, the only kind of people being opressed right now are TRUE Christians who believe in what is right and are willing to take a stand and follow the King James Version of the bible. Did you even hear about the bill they are trying to pass that is going to make gay and lesbionism a type of race. That you can be convicted of hate crimes if you speak against them. What about the pastors who preach every week. They preach the TRUTH out of the word of God. God calls these acts an ABOMINATION!! :shock: Now, when my pastor gets up and says, " Gos didn't create Adam and Steve, he created Adam and Eve", is he going to be arrested for speaking the truth. HELLO.....we all need to wake up to the reality of the times and stop letting ourselves be pushed around. I am a United States Citizen and I am tired of having this liberal JUNK of abortion and gay rights shoved down my throat. I pay taxes....I DO NOT WANT MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO FUND ANY OF THIS JUNK!! :X 

I'm sorry for getting off your topic, but racism needs to be a thing of the past, we ALL need to come together and stand up for what is right.  One last thought, if these idiots running around think being homosexual is so natural.......here's an experiment for them.....

Lets put 25 couples on three islands for a total of 3 islands and 150 people.

The first island has 25 gay couples...50 men and give them the food and water and shelter they need to survive for 75 years.

The second Island is 25 lesbian couples...50  women, give them all the food and water and shelter they need to survive for 75 years.

Now the last island should be 25 heterosexual couples, 25 women and 25 men. Give them enough food and water to survive 75 years.

When you return in 75 years.........Who do you think will be thriving and growing?

 "Be ye fruitful and multiply."  Enough said.;) 

  

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Once again  Foxx showed his racist side. He was mc of the BET awards last night. They did a tribute to M.Jackson. He remarked that Jackson was one of them cause he was black and the white people could just borrow him. That was not good enough he had to repeat his thoughts again. I know M.J. was controversial but everyone has to give credit where credit is due. He was a phenomenal singer and dancer. I guess Foxx ignores the fact that M.J. was married twice and both times married white women. Oh and by the way all three children look white:shock:. Not to mention his skin color was whiter than most Caucasian people I know. If a white person had make these remarks they would be on CNN and dragged through the media till they apologized.  


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