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Posted: Wed Oct 22nd, 2008 03:06 am |
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Maybe they think that building a church will somehow "save" them from the sin of raping the youth of glades county of the $$$$ left for their benefit. All I can say is they better build a big one My great grandmother used to say that to have a relationship with God didn't mean showing up at church every Sunday so everyone sees you there. "God knows what is in your heart, whether you are in church or at home. Be true to yourself, your family and your values", she said. I hope the JJ Wiggins family knows how transparent their hearts are to all of us, including God. That pile of brick and mortar won't save you, but doing the right thing by the kids of our county could. There is still time. Tick-tock.....
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sltycrkr
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Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 07:10 pm |
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I belive if someone was did into the awarded scholorships (suppost to be for the youth of Glades County), you will see some that were awarded to adults. I bet you cannot guess who the adults were!!!!!!!!!!!!
How much money will a church bring into the JJ Wiggins Fund? Will it finally be the answer to the money problems at the center? If the church is the answer to the problem why don't we have one on every corner? Who is paying for the church?
Who is to blame for padding their pockets? Or, is it the blame on the ones who turn a blind eye?
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Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 12:20 pm |
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When Charlotte Durno made her inquiry into the financial situitation of the J.J. Wiggins Trust, she quietly hushed up after her son-in-law, Greg Bond, was given a job running the Youth Center. What good is a Youth Center when it is only open when the kids are IN school? Now Mrs. Durno's daughter, Mary, has a job there as the secretary. The Bond's were the ones that got the church into the building and if you haven't noticed, the construction out back will be for the Agape Christian School.Everyone involved with the trust over the years has feathered their nests in one way or another. Mike Pressley got the grove lease for $1 per year for 99 years thanks to his late step-father Judge Wells being on the board.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17th, 2008 03:04 am |
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NOW is correct sltycrkr...I agree!
Everyone needs to get involved.
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sltycrkr
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 10:48 am |
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Ask to see who bought the FFA hog last year after it was donated back?
I am not negative at all, just truthful. Alot of the time the truth sounds negative, but I am one of the most positive thinking and truthful people out there.
Believe me I am a volunteer for the schools, sports, 4-H, FFA and alot of other things around the county. I would like to encourage alot more of you to stop writing and do something. The higher ups can not stop you from volunteering.
Terrier Fan, I do agree with alot that you say. But if we want something left for our kids then we all must do something now.!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 04:04 am |
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I don't understand the bit about 4H being non-existent... My child has shown an animal in the pee wee group for two years now. There must have been over 100 kids exhibiting animals..from K through 12th grade. You couldn't ask for better people than our 4H leaders who give their time to help our children. The groups meet at least once a month. Also, the youth livestock not only sponsor the events, they also help out the school organizations and with the sports programs.
Please get involved and see for yourself. Don't base everything on what you've "heard". It is not a closed group and they would welcome your help, unless you are as negative in real life as you are on this forum.
Also, if you care about our youth and want to do something to help, then how about volunteering at the schools. I do believe that there are a number of churches that have youth programs and they could also use volunteers as well. It doesn't take lots of $$, it takes something a lot more valuable and that is your time.
Change starts with You and Me and stop blaming those who are out doing what they can to make things better for our youth. If the few that are doing something get discouraged by your words, then there will be nothing for our kids, NOTHING.
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Gladesres
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Posted: Thu Oct 16th, 2008 03:26 am |
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| Glades County Youth Livestock DOES NOT purchase animals at the show or give add-ons to children. They are the organization responsible for putting on the show and sale, they do not buy animals.
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sltycrkr
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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 07:42 pm |
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The JJ Wiggins will not be used as a youth facility anymore since it is now a church.
I thought that would get your attention. It is supposed to be a youth facility. Did you know that the schools of Glades County cannot book the JJ Wiggins center for a dance or any other event on a Saturday night, due to the fact that it will not be cleaned up in time for church. How much money does dances or other events bring into the schools? Just remember it is for the kids we are looking out for their interests.
It would make to much sense to let a 4-H group use some of the property there to raise animals, horticulture or anything that the youth of the county would need. OH I FORGOT, the FFA chapter has the only rights to the hay field so they can make money for the chapter, we don't need to worry about the 4-H kids.
I am going to throw this out there. I am quoting a few people not to be named. Last year at Chalo Nitka, the Glades County Youth Livestock purchased the FFA chapter hog for a good profit. Did they even bid on the 4-H hog? The way that the shows and sales get operating money is from using 3% of each kids premiums. All shows and sales do this, it does take allot of time and money to put these programs on.
BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE GROUPS MONEY AND BUY AN ANIMAL, THAT IS ONLY THERE TO BENEFIT 1/2 OF THE KIDS (the FFA chapter) AND DON'T EVEN BID OR GIVE AN ADDON TO THE 4-H CHAPTER HOG. What is wrong with the higher powers in the county that they can just turn their heads and not even care???????????
Lets see if that will get them talking.
On a better note, 4-H does offer allot of great things, such as; bar-b-que clubs, poultry clubs, dog clubs, sewing clubs, etc. for our youth. The scholarships that are available through 4-H is almost endless. 4-H is not just steers, hogs, and dairy.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 06:19 pm |
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I discovered a long time ago how hard it is to find decent things for kids to do around this county. Unfortunatly this county has forgotten our youth, and it will regret it in the end. All 4-H is almost non-existant, there are no other barn or ranch groups here for kids, even sports is so poor here it is beyond belief. I inquired about 4-H just a year or two back and was bascially told they send out a book and will see you at the festival, wow...thats a lot of help for kids. The sports is driven by those insane parents you see on TV who kill each other over whos kid is better, I have seen this with my own eyes. I do not understand why Glades county is like this. If I had the money, and people around here did not feel the swamp land was made of gold, I would sure put something together for the children. They are ALL of our future! I know it requires a drive, but most people just do what I have done, and join 4-H in other counties. I go to Lee county for ours and the kids love it, and the people truely care.
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 09:30 pm |
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| Well well well -- let me see here where do we live oh that's right BEAUTIFUL GLORIOUS NATURAL GLADES COUNTY where if you ain't a nth generation rooted in the muck ya-ll don't count for nothin. Again build it and they will come but please don't maintain it let it go back to the earth. One must ID who is really in charge here and if that individual could have monetary gains or the generic equivalent they just might entertain outside input. Remember at all times that they are in absolute control of everything that happens not the kids.
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Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 07:49 am |
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| well if that is the case what waste of a whole lot of land that many could benefit from if it were open to others to use..there is more than enough land out there for it to be broken down into smaller pastures. Students could learn to understand the the importance of good pasture management and being good stewards of the land...
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 11:47 pm |
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| Thanks for the clarification
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 11:04 pm |
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| No, that pasture is used by the FFA's herd of animals for teaching and an agribusiness operation. No member's animals are there, only those owned by the chapter.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 08:08 pm |
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Isn’t the FFA comprised of youth? Wouldn’t that make it youth pasture? Wouldn’t hey just need to join the FFA to use it?
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Gladesres
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 11:48 pm |
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| Actually, that pasture in muse is for the Moore Haven FFA Chapter only. No youth pasture there even.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 09:34 pm |
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| That's very nice! And what percentage of Glades County students that are old enough to participate in such things, attend the Muse school?? And are the students in Moore Haven supposed to walk there after school or will the parents have to drive them there, wait on them to tend their livestock, and then drive them home? That's assuming the parents are off work and can afford the extra gas! Muse is even more of a burden than J.J.
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Taterbo
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 06:05 am |
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| There is a 'youth pasture' already by the new school in Muse...There is a sign there and everything already. It says it is the FFA pasture...
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:50 am |
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The J.J. Wiggins foundation is nothing more than a "Mock" center for the youth of Glades County. It was built in the most inopportune place and provides a minimum of activities for the youth. What is really interesting is the income received for the lease of the land which is used as orange groves. You should really find out for yourself just how much is paid for that lease, you will be amazed!
If they really wanted to help the youth, they would have built it adjacent to the schools on the vacant land that "was" available at the time, but then, that would not have been convenient for the orange grove lease because there was not enough land. But, the kids would not have had to travel so far to get there and the usage would have increased dramatically which is not the way it was intended. This was only built as a memorial to J.J. and never intended to be heavily used. Instead of leasing the land for orange groves, it could have been well used for FFA, Youth Livestock, and the likes. Perhaps the "foundation" should be approached and petitioned for such use since it is "supposed to be" used for the youth of Glades County, and not Private Enterprise.
You can thank Commissioner Durno that there is anything left of the foundation that was nearly depleted by its' guardians.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 01:29 am |
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Why doesn't Glades County have a community 4-H Pasture where kids that don't live out of town can have animals to show in 4-H? It's amazing to me that Glades County is all about Agriculture, and does not try and involve the children in Ag. for future generations...What is up with that?
Is it only the kids of farmers and ranchers that can do this? Do you want to keep it in only certain families...? I do know that some concerned parents let others keep animals in their pastures...Now, I don't have a child that wants to do this, but know there are some out there...I have found out that other counties have 4-H pastures where the kids can have access to housing and feeding their animals...They also have horse clubs, rodeos, etc. Come on, lets do something about this. How, you say? Well, here we go again, back to JJ Wiggins and what they are SUPPOSED to do. They probably won't. They think that if you can get the kids into church (have they not heard of cowboy church?) then that is all they have to do... It's for KIDS not adults... Well, it's something to think about anyhow...Oh by the way, this was brought up to me by my children who are adults.
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