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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 07:16 pm |
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| I have been e-mailing everyone for months now, and they are still doing as Big Oil wishes. In reality we have no say, because they don't listen to us. Christ is secure in his job for another two years and he knows by then most will have forgotten all about it. Besides that he is looking to get promoted to VP out of it.
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| We certainly do have a say. Call,write and email your gov't officals and tell them if they want to keep their jobs they better not go with big oil. Just because Georgie is leaving doesn't means everybody else is. It's also a good time to reflect on what we got the last time we were acting out of anger and resentment.
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| We have NO SAY... It will be done whether we say NO or not. Big Oil gets what they want because their boy is in the White House, The Politicians have convinced their Sheep that this will change things. When was the last time politicians brought about change? It Pure Crap. Bush is on his way out and he wants to get Oil all he can before he leaves. Lets what was it he did before politics,,,oh yeah he was an OIL MAN, what might he return to now that his political life is over?
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I really hope the people of FL will stop and take a good look at the future before the join the "i want oil now" group. Once agian the BIG money, BIG business and BIG gov't people are at work. We the average people will get nothing out of this. Except of course "pretty" oil rigs to stare at off our coasts at the same time wishing we had thought twice before saying ok to oil. The gov't did the same thing when they told us Iraq had chemical and biological waepons. Remember; nothing. If we weren't using millions of gallons of fuel oil a week over there we wouldn't be paying so much over here. Gee maybe they will build a refinery in ST. Pete or FT. Myers! Wouldn't that be nice!!!
George is paying back big oil for putting him in Washington ,period. As far as being free from foreign oil; not in your lifetime baby. Lower prices, not. Maybe higher prices though because they will also need bigger and better refineries. Let's not forget where much of our money comes from ; tourists, fishing, beautiful scenery, etc. We have been set up by our own gov't and big business with fear, greed, selfseeking, ego and money and of course the poor me's and lets not forget anger.Those are all character defects folks. They drill we loose ; your choice. And please think twice because once you say ok there is NO taking it back.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 02:34 pm |
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| It dose not matter where we purchase our oil from, prices will not come down. as long as we let them drill where ever they want, no serious time or energy will be put into alternative energy research. As has been said they have wells full of oil that have been caped, they should open them up before being allowed to drill new ones. I don't just want us to be free from foreign oil We need to free our selfs from oil period. We are killing our selfs, we probably only have 50-100 years left to be able to survive because of what the use of oil in doing to the planet. Letting them go after more in places we set aside from them effecting its counter productive and useless. Its greedy on everyone involves account. Not to mention just down right WRONG. Selling you soul for oil. Last edited on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 02:35 pm by 4string
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| Bush should be in prison? That is the bs. As of yesterday the Drill Now petition had aquired 800,000 signatures and they are going for 1,000,000 by July 4th to declare a new Declaration of Independence, from foreign oil, that is. I believe the price would drop somewhat but we should remember that independence on foreign oil is what we are most trying to achieve. Even foreign oil will decrease in price when they see we are going after our own. No matter the flipflopping of Mcain or whoever, our leaders are being forced to listen to the people. Newt Gingrich claims both Republicans and Democrats are signing the petition. I only hope after they get to drilling they will at the same time be developing alternate fuels. Brazil is a good example of making ethanol. I personnally would like to see them take that oil out of Anwar and capture the natural gas in the process and pipe it on down the line. It has been told there is enough natural gas for us for 200 years. The natural gas I buy is $1.00 a cubic foot. Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 12:05 am by flsr
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| So true we will not see prices ever drop below $3.75 a gallon again no matter how much oil is avalible. It is B/S this should be something We The People should have a say in. It is our natural recorces that they are messing with. Our Public Lands, and Beaches that are threatened. Bush should be in prision for what he has done to the country.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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4string wrote: You can get a locking gas cap from your dealer.
Guess Christ wants to be a real Republican after all, he must be trying to move to the top of McCains short list for VP
totally what I was thinking.......Crist seemed almost a Dem. he has been so quiet since coming into office, and now this? It totally goes against what he has said in the past, all of a sudden McCain comes up with some total BS press conference, to DRILL to help with the gas prices when in reality it will NOT help at all..........and Crist jumps all over it?
Talk about desperate for the VP nomination
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You can get a locking gas cap from your dealer.
Guess Christ wants to be a real Republican after all, he must be trying to move to the top of McCains short list for VP
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 07:55 pm |
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| Well, Crist has now done an about face, and caved into to drilling off the coast.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 05:06 pm |
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| You can't just put a locking gas cap on the newer vehicles because it can mess up the computer in the vehicle. This should be done at the dealers.
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| Okay. I bought the tornado over the weekend. I had my husband install it on Sat. I will let you guys know exactly what type of milage I get later this week.
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Firefly1958 wrote: You know they make a siphon hose with a little crank on it so you don,t get gas in your mouth,and it's much faster
LOL... Oh yea I love the taste of Gas
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 11:20 pm |
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JimmyBuffett wrote: We do not have a shortage of Oil Supply, drilling new hole will not lower our gas prices. Who remembers the gas crunch of the 70's (gas prices doubled, gas station tanks ran dry, odd and even gas days, compact cars, gas saving gimmicks, run your car on water) we were all told that there was a oil shortage while tankers sat off our coasts just waiting for the prices to go up before coming in to unload. BIG OIL...
Most people relate fuel cost to automobiles because this is were you see the effects on a daily basis but it effects much more than just the fuel for you car. Just take a look at your electric bill, fuel cost is passed directly on to the customer and it doesn't stop there.
Fuel Diversity will probably effect fuel cost more than anything but lets face it no one likes nuke's or coal and wind or solar is just not going to cut it. Plus everyone wants cheaper electricity as long as it doesn't effect there ocean view or country scenery! Florida utilities are starting to mostly depend on natural gas which is supplied to us by two major gas lines coming from the north, Anyone thinking about that saying (we are placing all our eggs in one basket). Lets wait and see what happens next time a hurricane hits up in the pan handle and half of our natural gas supply is shutdown.
I think it is going to get much worse before it gets better!
PS: While we are talking about it, I would like everyone to know I have a special deals on Siphon Hoses and Gas Tank Locks.
You know they make a siphon hose with a little crank on it so you don,t get gas in your mouth,and it's much fasterLast edited on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 11:55 pm by Firefly1958
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We do not have a shortage of Oil Supply, drilling new hole will not lower our gas prices. Who remembers the gas crunch of the 70's (gas prices doubled, gas station tanks ran dry, odd and even gas days, compact cars, gas saving gimmicks, run your car on water) we were all told that there was a oil shortage while tankers sat off our coasts just waiting for the prices to go up before coming in to unload. BIG OIL...
Most people relate fuel cost to automobiles because this is were you see the effects on a daily basis but it effects much more than just the fuel for you car. Just take a look at your electric bill, fuel cost is passed directly on to the customer and it doesn't stop there.
Fuel Diversity will probably effect fuel cost more than anything but lets face it no one likes nuke's or coal and wind or solar is just not going to cut it. Plus everyone wants cheaper electricity as long as it doesn't effect there ocean view or country scenery! Florida utilities are starting to mostly depend on natural gas which is supplied to us by two major gas lines coming from the north, Anyone thinking about that saying (we are placing all our eggs in one basket). Lets wait and see what happens next time a hurricane hits up in the pan handle and half of our natural gas supply is shutdown.
I think it is going to get much worse before it gets better!
PS: While we are talking about it, I would like everyone to know I have a special deals on Siphon Hoses and Gas Tank Locks.
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I'm for solar the sun is free and no other state has more sun year round than Florida
Solar powered homes are a little out of our reach at the moment I think, I was reading about a 3 million dollar home here in Flordia that is completely generated by solar power...for about 4 hours after sundown. Then the generators kick in. I like the windmill ideas though, my brother is even spouting off about some sort of wind-powered vehicle. Who knows, it certainly sounds better then the situation were in now!
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flsr wrote: Crist wants to be McCains vice president. McCain said in an interview he would not allow drilling in Anwar. Don't remember what he said about other off-shore drilling. George wanted to drill off Florida but Jeb didn't.
Drilling our own oil may not make it cheaper, although I think it would, the main object is to become less dependent on foreign oil. We need to be drilling our own and at the same time developing solar, wind mills etc. Oh wait, people don't like the looks of windmills. Maybe they don't like solar panels either. If the sun shone 364 days instead of 365 it wouldn't be worth it would it? There is always some objection to anything that would make our life more affordable.
Supply is what is going to make the cost of oil go down.I agree with windmills ,I saw a documentary on it and they power a entire town and sold their surplus back to the power co.,their surplus was enough to power a town the same size as theirs .I'm for solar the sun is free and no other state has more sun year round than Florida.The up start is the killer on these two.If you was handy sorta person I suppose you could do it yourself.But, I'm not a handy gal.Last edited on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 07:15 pm by Firefly1958
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Crist wants to be McCains vice president. McCain said in an interview he would not allow drilling in Anwar. Don't remember what he said about other off-shore drilling. George wanted to drill off Florida but Jeb didn't.
Drilling our own oil may not make it cheaper, although I think it would, the main object is to become less dependent on foreign oil. We need to be drilling our own and at the same time developing solar, wind mills etc. Oh wait, people don't like the looks of windmills. Maybe they don't like solar panels either. If the sun shone 364 days instead of 365 it wouldn't be worth it would it? There is always some objection to anything that would make our life more affordable.
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| Big oil & the Busch administration are behind this propaganda b/s. Big oil wants to literally drill everywhere and is putting FEAR into everyone. George did the same with his false propaganda about Iraq. If we weren't waisting so much fuel oil in Iraq the speculators would have nothing to speculate on. If you want to stop this b/s then send a message to Washington and FL polaticians that we just won't stand for this anymore. Put the fear in the politicians lap that unless they change things they won't be around long and just watch. It won't happen overnight but it will happen if we stay together. Drive the least you can; let the store managers know your cutting back on your spending because of high costs;write or email politicians about your concerns and keep it up. The only way they will change is if we change and keep the pressure on. Drilling off the coast; in Alaska; or anywhere else won't bring the cost of gas down one penny. Big oil will then say they need new refineries because they aren't taking care of what they have because their too busy being greedy and grabbing every dime they can. Just say no!
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4string wrote: Well so far Govener Christ has said no to drilling off our coast. Is he really a republican? Saying no to Big Oil? Bet he looses his secret decoder ring over this one.
For a Republican, he's not all that bad, so far 
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Offshore drilling off the table -- for now
A House subcommittee rapidly shot down a proposal to open Florida's coastline to drilling -- by a 9 to 6 vote along party lines. (Republicans for, Democrats against.)
The push behind the effort: Rep. John Peterson, R-Penn., who has long sought to lift the decades-old ban that prevents drilling off the Outer Continental Shelf.
Peterson pledged after the meeting to try again with the full committee -- and the full House if need be.
"While the American people continue to endure the pain at the pump - begging Washington for relief - Democrats on the House appropriations interior subcommittee voted to keep the status quo, and continue with 27 years of failed policy that restricts domestic production of oil and natural gas offshore," Peterson said.
But subcommittee chair Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Wa., said opening up more of the OCS is "unnecessary." He said that proponents of opening additional lands to oil and gas leasing say that "vast quantities of oil and gas are closed to energy development," but that the federal government says 82 percent of the known OCS reserves of natural gas are already "fully open" for drilling.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 10:11 pm |
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| Well so far Govener Christ has said no to drilling off our coast. Is he really a republican? Saying no to Big Oil? Bet he looses his secret decoder ring over this one.
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Copy this and send it to everyone on your Email list
http://www.americansolutions.com/
You want to do something about the high cost of gasoline. NOW YOU CAN.
Sign the petition called Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less
Newt Gingrich has started a petition drive to ask Congress to allow oil companies to start drilling for oil in the US and off of our shores. If Congress does this now OPEC will think real hard about oil prices and will lower them. I encourage all of you who want to pay less at the pump to go to the following web sites and sign the petition. You can also sign up for a Free weekly news letter from Newt Gingrich that will keep you posted on what is happening in Washington DC.
We must get the cost of oil down or we will see a full blown depression in our country which will not be a pretty sight. Please send this out to all of your friends and family.
United we can make a difference.
http://www.americansolutions.com/
I would not sign that petition on my death bed.
United THEY get rich
Our oceans can't afford any more, espically drilling.
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| They don't need to drill off the coast or anywhere new. They have plenty of wells already as you have said why let them drill for new? Again why cave into them, they are using this situation to get what they want and have not been able to get yet. It will not effect the price at the pump if they do get to drill. They are greedy, and will slime their way into what they want.
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Firefly1958 wrote: 4string wrote: the problem with them now is that they need to go and uncap all the existing wells that was capped in the 80s and 90s if they did that maybe we wouldn't have to drill in the park but I see no reason for not drilling off the coast.
That would be one heck of a start!!
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4string wrote: No I have no portfolio, I will have to work all my life. I have no insurance because it is unaffordable, I only drive to work and back, and make sure any thing I might need I get durring that trip, because of gas prices. My groceries do not magically appear, I have to be very careful and have cut out allot of things due to the prices.
At the same time I would rather see a tree in a national park than an oil well, I'd rather have a nice clean beach than one covered in tar. I'd rather see oil company's make less than record profits than give them something we have been denying them for good reason. Other country's pay 2-3 times as much for gas than we do. They survive we can too. We just got to get over our selfs and get out of these big SUVs, and trucks we don't need. We need to quit making a token effort at other sources of energy and really invest into it. we don't need to go caving into oil company's because we are inconvenienced right now.
4string after the rig comes down a oil well pump isn't large at all they aren't going to rape the forest, they aren't going to destroy the parks.We do need to go to a different form of energy but for now it's fossil fuel .I don't want China and Venezuela or Mexico drilling off our coast I want a Americans. I have cut my running around and try to make things in one trip ,I drive a small truck.Other countries do pay more in gas than we do ,do I feel guilty because Great Britain is paying 10.00 a gallon no and they wouldn't be if they had their own oil wells pumping ,but if it make you feel better our gas prices might rise that high.And the trucks won't be rolling to put products on the shelf ,Then you can pat yourself on the back because you rallied for no drilling.And one other thing 4string I am not taking side with Big Oil,personally I think the problem with them now is that they need to go and uncap all the existing wells that was capped in the 80s and 90s if they did that maybe we wouldn't have to drill in the park but I see no reason for not drilling off the coast.Last edited on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 02:57 pm by Firefly1958
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No I have no portfolio, I will have to work all my life. I have no insurance because it is unaffordable, I only drive to work and back, and make sure any thing I might need I get durring that trip, because of gas prices. My groceries do not magically appear, I have to be very careful and have cut out allot of things due to the prices.
At the same time I would rather see a tree in a national park than an oil well, I'd rather have a nice clean beach than one covered in tar. I'd rather see oil company's make less than record profits than give them something we have been denying them for good reason. Other country's pay 2-3 times as much for gas than we do. They survive we can too. We just got to get over our selfs and get out of these big SUVs, and trucks we don't need. We need to quit making a token effort at other sources of energy and really invest into it. we don't need to go caving into oil company's because we are inconvenienced right now.
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| ABOBST I will check into the tornado. Never heard of it, but if I can do anything to cut down on my gas consumption I will. As usual I am all about the quick fix without thought to the repercussions. My parents scolded me for that. Slow learner I guess.
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Copy this and send it to everyone on your Email list
http://www.americansolutions.com/
You want to do something about the high cost of gasoline. NOW YOU CAN.
Sign the petition called Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less
Newt Gingrich has started a petition drive to ask Congress to allow oil companies to start drilling for oil in the US and off of our shores. If Congress does this now OPEC will think real hard about oil prices and will lower them. I encourage all of you who want to pay less at the pump to go to the following web sites and sign the petition. You can also sign up for a Free weekly news letter from Newt Gingrich that will keep you posted on what is happening in Washington DC.
We must get the cost of oil down or we will see a full blown depression in our country which will not be a pretty sight. Please send this out to all of your friends and family.
United we can make a difference.
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4string wrote: Are you willing to allow drilling in our national parks because gas is too high?You Betcha I am ashamed of the greed I am hearing.Have you noticed it not just gas its every product that is made by oil,from plastics to tires including transport of food you just don't go to the grocery store and your groceries just magically appear it fertilizer, food stuff that goes into animal feed it's everything. 2 years ago when the mention of drilling in a natural park came up every one was outraged, but now that the oil companys have gotten the gas prices so high you are willing to cave into their wishes and allow it.The oil companies aren't setting the price of oil Why so they can make more money, do you actually think they will lower the price of gas now that they have up this high?If you have a retirement portfolio 4string you might better check and if you are invested in energy or oil you might want to have them to move you out ,sure wouldn't want your stock to go up and make money for you Sure you might see it get back down to $3.75, but thats it. Remember the late 70s, the gas shortage? Once gas got over $1 a gal. there was plenty of gas all of the sudden. We need to stop Big Oil not help them out.Oh yeah I remember that too it was caused not by Big Oil but by OPEC cartel,the middle east cut off our oil because the was mad at us over the Arab /Israeli conflict.Our domestic production was down because US oil companies couldn't compete with foreign oil and when they cut us off ,we had to ration ,we started pumping at a higher capacity to get the domestic oil lets see then Opec put us back in their good graces and started selling us oil at $8.00 a barrel which was a inflated price and the Big Oil couldn't sell domestic oil for that and many ,many many oil men oil companies and wildcatters went bankrupt in the 80s As far as American oil companies drill off shore.Venezuela and China either are or about to drill off the coast of Cuba.I have alittle more confidence in our guys than them Do you really think they give a rats ass if they have a spill ,our guys do.
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Unfortanatly for some trading in your gas guzler will not be an option. Whole sellers and the auto actions are not taking them in on trade right now. So if you owe on your truck or SUV, you are going to be upside down on it.
Trading in isn't really an option, that's true, but I'm just throwing out some gentle reminders to those that are suffering, like my dad heh.
He owns an F350 SuperDuty, Diesel engine, can you say 'I eat money'?
After Deisel nearly hit $5.00 a gallon he went to Baby Auto and bought himself an F250, gas engine, which was much better then his F350 on price (at the time gas still hadn't hit $4.00) which is alot closer to what most of Okeechobee residents drive.
I'm sure many of you have done this, put for those that have not or have no idea, conserving and prolonging your fuel is much easier then trading in your vehicles.
Clean your air filters, replace as necessary.
Tornados! Tornados used to be used for strictly racing performance as they give a horsepower boost, they also give a few extra fuel mileage points! Use them! You can buy these at Autozone and Napa, pretty much everywhere. Their a joke to install, simply slide them in the air filter directly for comubstion, or into the hose between the throttle body and air filter for Fuel-injected engines. (This will particularly help out Okeelori for long distance traveling.)
Keep your tires nice and bouncy, and your saving on drag resistance (which sucks down fuel).
In total it's about...6 minutes of work, and about $70.00 (Tornados are racing performance parts after all, will run you about $56.00.)
The outcome, for my dad, was about 6 more miles tacked on to his MPG. My dad owns a lawn service, so he is travelling constantly, with the stuff I listed here instead of filling up every two days, it's lengthened it to three days. Yeah, this is sort of extreme for those of you that work 8 hour workdays and only drive to work, home, and church, but it's worth a shot, and it might help prevent drilling into our last bit of untouched ecosystems!
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No Lori they are not. Big Oil contrbutes to too many politicians and they have got them under their thumbs. I agree having kids myself that scooters can not replace all the uses we have for cars, and are not good in bad weather eaither. It drive me crazy when I see 1 person alone in a large SUV, or truck. Teen agers buying pick ups just because its the style here.
The auto makers are now playing catch up as far as fule efficent cars. Ford is compesating by making some of their europeian cars avalible here in the U.S, but that won't be till 2010. They are also putting turbos on there 4 & 6cyl engines, giving the effecancy of a 4cyl with the power of a 6cyl. these will be avalible in the 2009 modle year. As well as more hybrid modles, but as I have said the hybrids really don't work for rural areas like Okeechobee.
I believe that one of the reasons gas is so high is to try to pressure us into letting Big Oil drill in places they have not been allowed to. It is a shame that we would even concider it.I can't stand those comercials that the Oil Companys are putting on TV trying to get us to feel good about them sticking it to us, and trying to stick it further. I wish the link to this petition would be removed.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 06:10 pm |
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| I agree on the scooter. I thought about that for about 30 seconds before I decided there was no way I could shuttle the kids safely on that. And to the coast and back could prove deadly. Do I want them to drill on our coast? No. Do I see any other options? No. I think that big oil should not be allowed to make the profits that they are making. Is anyone going to listen to me? No.
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Well said Mike all true. Hybrids cost $6k-$10 more than the same modle in a 4cyl, and are not useful in our area anyway because most of us do not do much city driving to get where we need to be.
Unfortanatly for some trading in your gas guzler will not be an option. Whole sellers and the auto actions are not taking them in on trade right now. So if you owe on your truck or SUV, you are going to be upside down on it. I have some whole sellers telling me not to call them if its a Truck or SUV. They can't give them away. So unless you are willing to take the loss in order to get into something smaller your stuck. Everyday I have to see the look on peoples faces when I tell them that the Truck they owe $25k on is only worth $8k right now. Its bad enough that we are just about giving our 08 trucks away right now. Prices are below what we paid for them on both new and used. Their just not moving at all. I can't keep our most fule effecient modle in stock right now. Wish I could order and sell a bunch of scooters.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 06:03 pm |
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Sign the petition, just don't give him your money!
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I don't think Newt Gingrich is the one to follow in any petition drive. Have you forgotten that he resigned as Speaker of the House in a scandal? He has ties to Rupert Murdoch in bribes for political favors totaling $4.5 million that he finally gave back before he was prosecuted.
GOPAC, Newt's longtime political action committee, was the centerpiece of a complex network of non-profit, and mostly tax exempt organizations that Newt has used to support himself and other conservative candidates. In an act of incredible hypocrisy, this crusader against taxes obtained taxpayer subsidies for his personal and political goals, by misusuing these tax-exempt groups.
This is someone who likely is being paid by "Big Oil" to promote yet another scam on the American taxpayer.
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Drilling off the coast "will not" lower the cost of oil one dime. Remember what they told us about drilling in Alaska? Most of that oil is shippted to other countries. If you look at what other countries are paying we have been paying much less for many years. We only make up 5% of the worlds population but we use 25% of it's energy! What we need to do is stop waisting so much. When you get oil/gas as cheaply as we have for soooo many years it makes it hard to stop waisting so much. I just traded in my pickup for a 30 mile plus vehicle and no I'm not rich in fact I survive on SS. At the same time I don't waiste money or gas.
Now think about how much it would cost us if there were a spill off our coast??? And what about our air quality? If you work on the coast and make good money figure out how much you would save by buying a vehicle that got 30 plus miles per gallon. And I'm NOT talking about a hybrid. The cost outwieghs the savings.
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| Are you willing to allow drilling in our national parks because gas is too high? I am ashamed of the greed I am hearing. 2 years ago when the mention of drilling in a natural park came up every one was outraged, but now that the oil companys have gotten the gas prices so high you are willing to cave into their wishes and allow it. Why so they can make more money, do you actually think they will lower the price of gas now that they have up this high? Sure you might see it get back down to $3.75, but thats it. Remember the late 70s, the gas shortage? Once gas got over $1 a gal. there was plenty of gas all of the sudden. We need to stop Big Oil not help them out.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 03:00 pm |
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| Done deal.Thanks!
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| Thanks. Both my husband and I have signed up. I wish there was a way to deny the big gas companies their exorbirant profits. Here I am barely able to pay for my gas to drive to my job on the coast (where I make twice as much as I am able to make in Okeechobee) and their profit margin is growing daily. I am looking for work locally now, but it is hard to beat the deal I have on the coast. As I watched the news last night I decided I didn't care if they dig for oil off our coasts. I would be ready to listen to any suggestion on how to lower the gas prices. I tried for a while to find someone to carpool with, but couldn't with my crazy hours. Oh well, the way I look at it is that God is coming soon so NO WORRIES...
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 01:33 pm |
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Copy this and send it to everyone on your Email list
http://www.americansolutions.com/
You want to do something about the high cost of gasoline. NOW YOU CAN.
Sign the petition called Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less
Newt Gingrich has started a petition drive to ask Congress to allow oil companies to start drilling for oil in the US and off of our shores. If Congress does this now OPEC will think real hard about oil prices and will lower them. I encourage all of you who want to pay less at the pump to go to the following web sites and sign the petition. You can also sign up for a Free weekly news letter from Newt Gingrich that will keep you posted on what is happening in Washington DC.
We must get the cost of oil down or we will see a full blown depression in our country which will not be a pretty sight. Please send this out to all of your friends and family.
United we can make a difference.
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ChobeeLady wrote: Hate to burst your bubble ... but it will never be passed. Although, I agree we need to drill somewhere or do something quickly. However, nothing happens quickly in Washington. We just need to get the powers that be to purchase vehicles from Brazil and we could get free from the Middle East thumb. They're going to destroy us, by killing our economy. We're such a powerful nation but we're too damn dependent.
Americans are slow to rile and even slower to rally as a group and they won't until they get their ass in a bind and things are really hurting their pocketbook will they even start to think in that way .Congress has already had a round of petition presented to them this week .Look how quickly they got the stimulus checks out there.that decision was made in a week.I didn't agree with it but they still got it done .And why would we need to buy vehicle's from Brazil?We need to get off the ethanol kick ,that is a major player in killing the economy and look somewhere else ,more fuel efficient cars,do you really need the government to tell you and make it law to drive 55 to conserve fuel? I am of the mind set that Americans can do anything they want BUT they have to stick together .
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| Hate to burst your bubble ... but it will never be passed. Although, I agree we need to drill somewhere or do something quickly. However, nothing happens quickly in Washington. We just need to get the powers that be to purchase vehicles from Brazil and we could get free from the Middle East thumb. They're going to destroy us, by killing our economy. We're such a powerful nation but we're too damn dependent.
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| Just trying to keep this on top so everyone will see it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 12:06 am |
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Copy this and send it to everyone on your Email list
http://www.americansolutions.com/
You want to do something about the high cost of gasoline. NOW YOU CAN.
Sign the petition called Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less
Newt Gingrich has started a petition drive to ask Congress to allow oil companies to start drilling for oil in the US and off of our shores. If Congress does this now OPEC will think real hard about oil prices and will lower them. I encourage all of you who want to pay less at the pump to go to the following web sites and sign the petition. You can also sign up for a Free weekly news letter from Newt Gingrich that will keep you posted on what is happening in Washington DC.
We must get the cost of oil down or we will see a full blown depression in our country which will not be a pretty sight. Please send this out to all of your friends and family.
United we can make a difference.
http://www.americansolutions.com/
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