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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 09:13 pm |
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VoiceReason wrote: I wasn't aware of anything like that happening.
http://www.newszapforums.com/forum58/54742.html
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 08:37 pm |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 08:13 pm |
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VoiceReason wrote: T-BONE wrote: THANK YOU FOR THE INFO FLA GIRL.
I WAS CURIOUS IF THE STUDENTS ARE MADE AWARE OF THIS, AFTER READING SOME PAST POSTS ABOUT TEACHER BEHAVIOR, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION FOR BOTH STUDENT AND PARENT.
I WILL SIT DOWN WITH MY CHILDREN AND READ BOTH STUDENT AND TEACHER CODES TO MAKE SURE EXPECTATIONS ARE CLEAR FOR BOTH.
The teachers in this district are professionals who are also ethical. It's a good idea to read the Code of Ethics, but rest assured that the teachers in this district are all in good standing. Don't believe everything you read. A lot of those negative posts were made by angry parents who allowed their children to get by without doing homework and never took an interest in their children's grades until it was well too late. They then had to blame anyone but themselves, so the teachers are the ones who have to suffer the brunt of the attacks. In actuality, the teachers are the reason the students have the few tools they have. The parents, instead of thanking them, blame them for their own shortcomings. It's a shame really.
yeah, need i remind everyone of a certain dean at the highschool who made sexually inappropriate comments in front of the public...another example of teacher misconduct swept under the rug...
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 07:43 pm |
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VoiceReason wrote:
The teachers in this district are professionals who are also ethical. It's a good idea to read the Code of Ethics, but rest assured that the teachers in this district are all in good standing. Don't believe everything you read. A lot of those negative posts were made by angry parents who allowed their children to get by without doing homework and never took an interest in their children's grades until it was well too late. They then had to blame anyone but themselves, so the teachers are the ones who have to suffer the brunt of the attacks. In actuality, the teachers are the reason the students have the few tools they have. The parents, instead of thanking them, blame them for their own shortcomings. It's a shame really.
THROUGH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I KNOW DIFFERENT. AT LEAST THREE TEACHERS HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY ADDRESSED ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS. THE MAJORITY ARE PROFESSIONALS, AS YOU STATED, BUT A FEW SHOULD NOT BE EMPLOYED. I AM NOT AN ANGRY PARENT, 3.8 GPA UNWEIGHTED, SCORES ABOVE 100 ON THE CPT. I COULD GO ON WITH DETAILS, BUT TO STATE THEM ON A FORUM WOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING, THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES.
MY CHILDREN WILL HAVE CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR CODE OF CONDUCT AND THE TEACHERS ETHICAL CODE. IF THIS LINE IS CROSSED, THERE ARE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED TO THE TEE.
I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY MORE, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. THIS IS NOT ANGER, THIS IS TRUTH!
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Voice of reason,
I believe you are wrong a teacher is and always will be accountable for what a child learns or not learns, yes, parents do get upset about alot of things including but not limited to discipline, I do not agree with you on this, most of the teachers I am sure try there hardest with what they have to work with, but there are also some that should not even teach,
T- Bone has the right idea, explain to the kids what is expected from them and also what is expectedof the teacher.....
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 05:29 pm |
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T-BONE wrote: THANK YOU FOR THE INFO FLA GIRL.
I WAS CURIOUS IF THE STUDENTS ARE MADE AWARE OF THIS, AFTER READING SOME PAST POSTS ABOUT TEACHER BEHAVIOR, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION FOR BOTH STUDENT AND PARENT.
I WILL SIT DOWN WITH MY CHILDREN AND READ BOTH STUDENT AND TEACHER CODES TO MAKE SURE EXPECTATIONS ARE CLEAR FOR BOTH.
The teachers in this district are professionals who are also ethical. It's a good idea to read the Code of Ethics, but rest assured that the teachers in this district are all in good standing. Don't believe everything you read. A lot of those negative posts were made by angry parents who allowed their children to get by without doing homework and never took an interest in their children's grades until it was well too late. They then had to blame anyone but themselves, so the teachers are the ones who have to suffer the brunt of the attacks. In actuality, the teachers are the reason the students have the few tools they have. The parents, instead of thanking them, blame them for their own shortcomings. It's a shame really.
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 02:09 pm |
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THANK YOU FOR THE INFO FLA GIRL.
I WAS CURIOUS IF THE STUDENTS ARE MADE AWARE OF THIS, AFTER READING SOME PAST POSTS ABOUT TEACHER BEHAVIOR, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION FOR BOTH STUDENT AND PARENT.
I WILL SIT DOWN WITH MY CHILDREN AND READ BOTH STUDENT AND TEACHER CODES TO MAKE SURE EXPECTATIONS ARE CLEAR FOR BOTH.
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http://www.fldoe.org/edstandards/code_of_ethics.asp
This is the website for the State of Florida Dept of education, you will find all you need or want to know here with their code of ethics, some counties may vary from this with certain requirements , but over all they all must abide by this....Hope this helps
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 08:11 pm |
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flteacher wrote:
..................Also, the statements regarding preferential treatment of certain students with the "right" family ties is troubling. In a public high school all students should be treated the same regardless of who their parents or grandparents are. Both the quality of the education and consequences for misbehavior should be equal for all!
INCLUDING THE EDUCATOR.
I WAS READING THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT ON THE HIGH SCHOOL WEB SITE, BUT COULD NOT FIND THE TEACHERS CODE OF CONDUCT/ETHICS.
THE STUDENTS/PARENTS SHOULD ALSO BE AWARE OF WHAT IS REQUIRED OF A LICENSED EDUCATOR.
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flteacher wrote: Chobee buckeye my two children also enjoyed your class when you taught at OMS. You are a dedicated teacher who obviously still goes above and beyond for your students.
At no time did I find fault with individual teachers at the high school. Individual teachers can do wonderful things in the most dysfunctional schools (I am not calling OHS dysfunctional). What is of concern is the parents who have posted complaints about calls not being returned by teachers and counselors. Parent involvement is key to a student's educational success, as you too have stated.
Also, the statements regarding preferential treatment of certain students with the "right" family ties is troubling. In a public high school all students should be treated the same regardless of who their parents or grandparents are. Both the quality of the education and consequences for misbehavior should be equal for all!
Thank you flteacher. As per previous messages between the two of us, I agree that preferential treatment should NEVER be tolerated. Most who know me know that that is one thing that "bugs" me more than any other. Again, OHS is a work in progress. I think we will see the fruits of our labors soon. There are some new testing policies that may be coming in to effect soon. One of them is moving the short and extended response items to 9th grade. I think this would be a good change. One of the reasons that it is so hard to show growth in 10th grade is because so much growth is made in 9th. In 8th grade, students have to do the short and extended response items. But, in 9th it is a completely multiple choice test. As educators, I think we can agree that the odds are much better for a correct answer when choices are given as opposed to having to prepare, organize, and respond to reading selections. It's not an excuse just one of the many variables that goes in to play when they test in 10th grade.
It's nice to know that I have taught your children.
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flteacher wrote: Chobee buckeye my two children also enjoyed your class when you taught at OMS. You are a dedicated teacher who obviously still goes above and beyond for your students.
At no time did I find fault with individual teachers at the high school. Individual teachers can do wonderful things in the most dysfunctional schools (I am not calling OHS dysfunctional). What is of concern is the parents who have posted complaints about calls not being returned by teachers and counselors. Parent involvement is key to a student's educational success, as you too have stated.
Also, the statements regarding preferential treatment of certain students with the "right" family ties is troubling. In a public high school all students should be treated the same regardless of who their parents or grandparents are. Both the quality of the education and consequences for misbehavior should be equal for all!
Amen.
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Chobee buckeye my two children also enjoyed your class when you taught at OMS. You are a dedicated teacher who obviously still goes above and beyond for your students.
At no time did I find fault with individual teachers at the high school. Individual teachers can do wonderful things in the most dysfunctional schools (I am not calling OHS dysfunctional). What is of concern is the parents who have posted complaints about calls not being returned by teachers and counselors. Parent involvement is key to a student's educational success, as you too have stated.
Also, the statements regarding preferential treatment of certain students with the "right" family ties is troubling. In a public high school all students should be treated the same regardless of who their parents or grandparents are. Both the quality of the education and consequences for misbehavior should be equal for all!
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Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Now that's the kind of post I like to see here.
No, THANK YOU, okeegator. You have the reputation for being one of the best in your field. I've heard you really bring the material to life for your students and apply it to real world situations so they can understand the concept/application. Teachers like you and chobee buckeye and so many others are why I wouldn't have my children anywhere else.
Okay, where did my name leak out? Or do you have me confused with someone else?  Your affinity for the Florida Gators and your knowledge of previously posted subject area has given you away, I'm afraid. Your secret is safe with me.
There are more than one of us you know.
Yes, I know, but there are stark differences albeit many similarities.
I guess I was more transparent than I had hoped.
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okeegator wrote: Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Now that's the kind of post I like to see here.
No, THANK YOU, okeegator. You have the reputation for being one of the best in your field. I've heard you really bring the material to life for your students and apply it to real world situations so they can understand the concept/application. Teachers like you and chobee buckeye and so many others are why I wouldn't have my children anywhere else.
Okay, where did my name leak out? Or do you have me confused with someone else? Your affinity for the Florida Gators and your knowledge of previously posted subject area has given you away, I'm afraid. Your secret is safe with me.
There are more than one of us you know.
Yes, I know, but there are stark differences albeit many similarities.
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FLA GIRL wrote: Okee,
being a well known and liked teacher is not a bad thing, its actually good, I am glad to see a few teachers do take pride in their school and the kids, I just know a few that need some guidence by the good ones
We all need some guidance from time to time.
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Okee,
being a well known and liked teacher is not a bad thing, its actually good, I am glad to see a few teachers do take pride in their school and the kids, I just know a few that need some guidence by the good ones
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Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Now that's the kind of post I like to see here.
No, THANK YOU, okeegator. You have the reputation for being one of the best in your field. I've heard you really bring the material to life for your students and apply it to real world situations so they can understand the concept/application. Teachers like you and chobee buckeye and so many others are why I wouldn't have my children anywhere else.
Okay, where did my name leak out? Or do you have me confused with someone else? You're affinity for the Florida Gators and your knowledge of previously posted subject area has given you away, I'm afraid. Your secret is safe with me.
There are more than one of us you know.
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okeegator wrote: Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Now that's the kind of post I like to see here.
No, THANK YOU, okeegator. You have the reputation for being one of the best in your field. I've heard you really bring the material to life for your students and apply it to real world situations so they can understand the concept/application. Teachers like you and chobee buckeye and so many others are why I wouldn't have my children anywhere else.
Okay, where did my name leak out? Or do you have me confused with someone else? You're affinity for the Florida Gators and your knowledge of previously posted subject area has given you away, I'm afraid. Your secret is safe with me.
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Hoopla wrote: okeegator wrote: Now that's the kind of post I like to see here.
No, THANK YOU, okeegator. You have the reputation for being one of the best in your field. I've heard you really bring the material to life for your students and apply it to real world situations so they can understand the concept/application. Teachers like you and chobee buckeye and so many others are why I wouldn't have my children anywhere else.
Okay, where did my name leak out? Or do you have me confused with someone else?
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okeegator wrote: Now that's the kind of post I like to see here.
No, THANK YOU, okeegator. You have the reputation for being one of the best in your field. I've heard you really bring the material to life for your students and apply it to real world situations so they can understand the concept/application. Teachers like you and chobee buckeye and so many others are why I wouldn't have my children anywhere else.
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FLA GIRL wrote: OKEEGATOR<
Are you a history teacher by chance?? with the initials WW If you are you had my son this year in your class
No, but I know who you are talking about.
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chobee buckeye wrote: FLA GIRL wrote: chobee buckeye wrote: Flagirl,
You talk about teachers' kids being at school. Is this during the time that they are teaching? I don't think that's allowed by the district. That would be a valid concern if they are having to deal with their own kids during class. I know that the middle schools in particular have had to make arrangements for teachers' kids that are elementary school-aged. But, they house them together in a room with an adult until the regular school day is over. This is to prevent them from being in their parents' rooms. At the highschool, we can't have them there - not even on teacher work days.
I have been in 2 classes during regular hours, not planning time where there was a 4.5 year old in one and a new born in another, I had questioned it but, I really did not get a straight answer from anyone, also my daughter had come home one day and said the baby in the class was making so much noise she could not understand the teacher, If this child is so young the mother should be home with it not bringingit to school where it disturbs others, atleast the older child was very quite and colored why her father taught class
Wow~ I've never heard of that happening. Interesting. Just curious what class you teach?
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OKEEGATOR<
Are you a history teacher by chance?? with the initials WW If you are you had my son this year in your class
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FLA GIRL wrote: chobee buckeye wrote: Flagirl,
You talk about teachers' kids being at school. Is this during the time that they are teaching? I don't think that's allowed by the district. That would be a valid concern if they are having to deal with their own kids during class. I know that the middle schools in particular have had to make arrangements for teachers' kids that are elementary school-aged. But, they house them together in a room with an adult until the regular school day is over. This is to prevent them from being in their parents' rooms. At the highschool, we can't have them there - not even on teacher work days.
I have been in 2 classes during regular hours, not planning time where there was a 4.5 year old in one and a new born in another, I had questioned it but, I really did not get a straight answer from anyone, also my daughter had come home one day and said the baby in the class was making so much noise she could not understand the teacher, If this child is so young the mother should be home with it not bringingit to school where it disturbs others, atleast the older child was very quite and colored why her father taught class
Wow~ I've never heard of that happening. Interesting.
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chobee buckeye wrote: Flagirl,
You talk about teachers' kids being at school. Is this during the time that they are teaching? I don't think that's allowed by the district. That would be a valid concern if they are having to deal with their own kids during class. I know that the middle schools in particular have had to make arrangements for teachers' kids that are elementary school-aged. But, they house them together in a room with an adult until the regular school day is over. This is to prevent them from being in their parents' rooms. At the highschool, we can't have them there - not even on teacher work days.
I have been in 2 classes during regular hours, not planning time where there was a 4.5 year old in one and a new born in another, I had questioned it but, I really did not get a straight answer from anyone, also my daughter had come home one day and said the baby in the class was making so much noise she could not understand the teacher, If this child is so young the mother should be home with it not bringingit to school where it disturbs others, atleast the older child was very quite and colored why her father taught class
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I know many good teachers at the high school who are dedicated to their profession and who really want what's in the best interest of the students.
I really appreciate the effort the administrators are making to improve the school. They all work so hard everyday to support the faculty, staff, and teachers. I'm impressed with their devotion to their jobs.
I'm fully confident the grade will improve next year due to the steps the principal, assistant principals, teachers, and staff are taking. Rome wasn't built in a day, and it just takes a little time to see results.
Keep up the hard work, and thank you for all you do for our children. I'm proud of the Okeechobee County School District.
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bballmom28 wrote: I completely agree with chobee buckeye let's not blame it all on OHS or its teachers we as parents and our children are responsible also!! The teachers or parents do not take the FCAT and we can only do our best to hopefully make the conditions the best as possible for our students/children.
My husband is a teacher in a non FCAT tested subject but he still tries to incorporate skills in his classroom that are needed for FCAT prep and still teach the needed material for his class which is sometimes more difficult than you can imagine.
But on the other hand chobee buckeye teaches a FCAT tested subject and is probably one of the best teachers I have ever met! Not only have I worked with her but she has taught one of my children and was "always and I do mean always" concerned/consumed with his progress not just for FCAT purposes but for everyday life and what he may need to know for his next six years of school. She is not only a great teacher but the kids know that they can depend on her to be genuinely concerned about the rest of their school schedule and so much more beyond that!!
Speaking of teachers not communicating with the students or parents about their progress I thought that was my job as a parent to find out either from my child or if I don't like that response contact the teacher!! But do you want to know how concerned chobee buckeye really is? How many teachers do you know that are genuinely excited about their students EVERY moment of EVERYDAY? I know for sure that chobee buckeye is and we as parents and the administrators of OHS should thank their lucky stars for people like her and my husband!!
I take my hat off to techers that actually care, my son had one I believe she was a math teacher, her name slips my mind right now, I believe it was Ms Joyner, If more teachers had her attitude there would be a big improvement, she is the only one that actually to the time to send a note by email stating progress, yippy for her
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Flagirl,
You talk about teachers' kids being at school. Is this during the time that they are teaching? I don't think that's allowed by the district. That would be a valid concern if they are having to deal with their own kids during class. I know that the middle schools in particular have had to make arrangements for teachers' kids that are elementary school-aged. But, they house them together in a room with an adult until the regular school day is over. This is to prevent them from being in their parents' rooms. At the highschool, we can't have them there - not even on teacher work days.
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bballmom28 wrote: As for you okeegator you were also an awesome addition to the OHS staff!! You in your first year at OHS made my "I don't really care about school" senior actually enjoy school and excel his senior year and I never got to thank you for that!! I'm sure that when you have my junior next year he will feel the same way about you also.
Thanks for that. The check is in the mail. I just don't know who to make it out to (bad grammar, I know).
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Icare wrote: [code][/code]FLA GIRL wrote: Icare wrote: FLA GIRL wrote: As for parenting I take pride in it, BUt when you ask the teachers for weekly reports most teachers post their grades weekly. Instead of asking the teacher to make special arrangments for your child, why don't YOU make YOUR child resposible for writing down his grade and his own weekly progress. If he doesn't do it, then make him by holding him accountable. If you can't do it, then how do you expect the teacher to when they have fewer recourses then your do. Teachers can't spank your child's butt, but you can. Parent him, Mom.and out of 7 teachers you get one, Ok what are the teachers problems, Its there responsibility with kids that have issues to do as they are asked by the counselor, So again I am raising my own child, He is 18 and I have tried all the below and more ,
I was raised in these school systems and I know how they are, I have seen teachers that should have never been teachers,or even that close to kids for they act like kids themselves.. So you explain why the high school received a D as a grade, do I have to say anymore,
Razor I finally went to the school as you, but again nothing happened, My issues was weekly progress reports asked for by the school board for a 501 student, It's a 504 plan, which proves you're not that involved if you don't even know what type of plan your child is on. this shows how much the teachers care about the kids, not saying all are like this, I gave my email address, cell number,home number and 2 alternate numbers they could contact, but when I came to a behavioral issue they found the time to call me,
You can stick up for the teachers all you want, but the grade proves what is happening, The grade is indicitive of how YOUR child performed on the FCAT.
Excuse me, ICARE guess I am not perfect as you try to be, it was a type-o on my part, and how dare you tell me i am not involved in what my children do or dont do, I can tell you where my children are 24-7 can you, we dont drink, or fight, our children have a loving caring home, unlike most in this county,
As for the teachers, I think we pay enough in school taxes that the teachers can afford to pay asitter for their children and not baby sit them on our dime I have seen this numerous times at the middle school, as for my children they are both honor roll students because I put forth the effort, and as for my son being on a 504 he is still part of the ESE program in which means that the teachers ARE required to update the parents on the childs progress, so unless you know me ,d ont judge me with my parenting, I have children that teachers wish they could dupicate, well mannered, quite, respectful , I could name several teachers that should not be teaching in the school system just because of their attitudes and the way they dress coming to school, grown ladies dont wear mini`s where there are young impressionable men,
This school system sucks Yes, this school system did fail you as evidenced by your command of the English language, or lack thereof. compared to alot in florida, we are very behind times with alot, for a school to get rated a D that tells me the teachers are not working hard enough to make the students comprehend what they are trying to teach, and yes I will say that some kids do carry bagage from home to school, which is a shame , if the school was paying attention they can do something about that, Again with the school being responsible for the baggage the children carry...why don't they just take them off your hands and raise them for you? child abuse and neglect should be reported to the proper people, instead of turning the other cheek an pretending not to see it,
I have given all of my childrens teachers, my email,fax, & all numbers to contact myself or my husband, again 1 out of 7 teachers made use of my email These teachers are trying to raise their own children. Why would any of them want to communicate with a you...a whiny, ungrateful, non-parenting, has trouble with their kid, always in their face lady???? Get a life lady and do your job...teach your child...better yet, why don't you homeschool. Of course, you'd probably teach him everything you knew in two weeks and then try to enroll him again. , yes you are correct it does make life easy , inwhich at the high school all is on computer anyway so how hard is it to print and fax or send an email once a week saying , good, bad or in different, FL teacher has a point look how many teachers and how many websites there are its a shame flteacher you can tell gets involved with her students and thats the kind of teachers this county needs, not ones that are in a popularity contest, real old fashioned teachers
You know Icare, I do believe I have seen better manners out of the rear end of a donkey compared to you, I also graduated with honors and went on to college, I am not being graded on my paper so get a life, I guess your goal in life is to see how pissed you can get people, maybe thats why your such a miserable person. I guess a dummy like me could not be self made, oops wrong, I dont have to work due to the fact that I am smart, an recieved a good education and made my money in the first 10 years away from home, Thats why at 40 I have all the toys I could ever want land in 3 different states paid for and I only work because I like doing it, not because I have to, are you that smart? I am not on here for popularity, I am on here as a concerned parent, I do not blame the school system for all the faults but the ones I see , I do blame them for, Guess you have no problem with teachers bringing their children to school, while trying to teach ours, I thought that was what a daycare was for!!!! MY child has a learning disability that was no cause of his own, he was hit at a young age at a school cross walk by a old man that did not have a license because his vision was bad, so unless you know all the issues butt out!!!! as FLTEACHER stated , the plan he is on makes the teachers and the school accountable for what is being done for him, also I gave the teachers no time frame, this was requested by the counselor and the ESE department, I just followed up with the request when I recieved nothing from his teachers, Maybe you need to get a little more involved with whats going on around you before blabbering about it,
ICARE, guess your not perfect either, noone is not a word, figured I would point out your fault as you have pointed out so many others, remember the old saying a leopard can hide its spots, but they will always come back
Yes, I was accused of also being Voicereason. Noone ever accused me of being thisthat. Yes, I did hijack MSF's name.
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| Thanks for believing in him!! You have always been one of his biggest fans and we appreciate it!!
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I think it's awesome that some positive light is being shed on the good teachers that do exist at the highschool. And, okeegator and I aren't the only ones. So, again, thank you parents for appreciating us.
And bballmom, your son will love okeegator too. But, with a son like yours it's easy to do our jobs well.
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As for you okeegator you were also an awesome addition to the OHS staff!! You in your first year at OHS made my "I don't really care about school" senior actually enjoy school and excel his senior year and I never got to thank you for that!! I'm sure that when you have my junior next year he will feel the same way about you also.
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I must also add that she is awesome!
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chobee buckeye wrote: Icare, sportsnut, and bballmom - thank you so much for your kind words of affirmation. As many of you know me, you also know how much pride I have in my school and my students.
I love my job. There aren't a lot of people who can say that about their chosen profession. I don't claim to be perfect or free from criticism. But, I take offense to outsiders passing judgement. It's like the old saying "I can talk about my family but you can't". I know the whole freedom of speech thing and I get it. I have opinions about topics I don't know everything about too. Public education is a concern for the whole community. And it gets my goat when people don't try to be part of the solution. It takes a village...
Again, thank you.
It's nice to see that there are caring people responsible for the children of our community.
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Icare, sportsnut, and bballmom - thank you so much for your kind words of affirmation. As many of you know me, you also know how much pride I have in my school and my students.
I love my job. There aren't a lot of people who can say that about their chosen profession. I don't claim to be perfect or free from criticism. But, I take offense to outsiders passing judgement. It's like the old saying "I can talk about my family but you can't". I know the whole freedom of speech thing and I get it. I have opinions about topics I don't know everything about too. Public education is a concern for the whole community. And it gets my goat when people don't try to be part of the solution. It takes a village...
Again, thank you.
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sportsnut wrote: Amen to that! Chobee Buckeye you're the BOMB! For any of those who are doubters, go to any sporting event and you will see her family there long after the day of teaching 100 plus students is over. She is one of the best teachers you would ever hope to meet.
I can second that. Knowing now that he's a she, I know who she is. She loves her husband and her little boy, and she devotes everything she has to her students. She develops life long relationships with them, often taking them to dinner with her family and lending a listening ear. Her students know they can trust her, and she will always be a professional. She is one of the most committed teachers I know. She taught one of my boys and my daughter. We love you Mrs. S. Thank you for all you do!!!!
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| Amen to that! Chobee Buckeye you're the BOMB! For any of those who are doubters, go to any sporting event and you will see her family there long after the day of teaching 100 plus students is over. She is one of the best teachers you would ever hope to meet.
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I completely agree with chobee buckeye let's not blame it all on OHS or its teachers we as parents and our children are responsible also!! The teachers or parents do not take the FCAT and we can only do our best to hopefully make the conditions the best as possible for our students/children.
My husband is a teacher in a non FCAT tested subject but he still tries to incorporate skills in his classroom that are needed for FCAT prep and still teach the needed material for his class which is sometimes more difficult than you can imagine.
But on the other hand chobee buckeye teaches a FCAT tested subject and is probably one of the best teachers I have ever met! Not only have I worked with her but she has taught one of my children and was "always and I do mean always" concerned/consumed with his progress not just for FCAT purposes but for everyday life and what he may need to know for his next six years of school. She is not only a great teacher but the kids know that they can depend on her to be genuinely concerned about the rest of their school schedule and so much more beyond that!!
Speaking of teachers not communicating with the students or parents about their progress I thought that was my job as a parent to find out either from my child or if I don't like that response contact the teacher!! But do you want to know how concerned chobee buckeye really is? How many teachers do you know that are genuinely excited about their students EVERY moment of EVERYDAY? I know for sure that chobee buckeye is and we as parents and the administrators of OHS should thank their lucky stars for people like her and my husband!!
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flteacher wrote: MSF let's agree to disagree on the issue of posting email addresses in a public forum. We are looking at it from two different points of view. This argument has run its course.
Fair enough.
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MSF let's agree to disagree on the issue of posting email addresses in a public forum. We are looking at it from two different points of view. This argument has run its course.
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flteacher wrote: MSF wrote: Transfer that concept to the IT department at the school. FLTeacher works at the school (Military), just like the IT personnel. But if FLTeacher is not certified in IT, and does not have a broad understanding of IT's capabilities, how can she claim to have credibility with regards to what they can and can not do? Her experience is in the classroom, and her experience in the classroom is not being challenged. Her experience in IT is. FYI my experience in IT starts with a Bachelors of Science degree in Computer Science. Add to that numerous industry certifications, including Microsoft, and round it out with a teaching certification in Computer Science (one of many I hold). I am a second career teacher having spent many years in the IT field prior to switching to teaching. Does that qualify me, in your mind, to speak about the functions of an email server and the knowledge it takes to develop an interactive webpage?
All this discussion serves to do is completely divert from the original point. There is no need by school administration, nor a requirement by Sunshine, for teacher's e-mail addresses to be posted in public forum where anyone can see them. Parents have every right to request the teacher's e-mail addresses from the school, and the school should be required to provide them, IAW Sunshine. But the concept that the school should have to post them in public does not support any of the current requirements by law, and could serve to compromise or disrupt the school's IT security. Please quote from my posts where I state the Sunshine law mandates posting of teacher emails in a public forum. What I said is for the benefit of parents they should be easy to locate - the Internet allows this simplicity. We are talking about a business email address not their social security number.
The digital age is here to stay. The Internet and email will continue to grow in popularity and use as a communication tool. I for one think it is time our community leaders accept this and join the rest of the world in fully utilizing this inexpensive global method of communication.
I am surprised, with all your certifications, that you are resistant to the idea of protecting the school's IT and servers by protecting teacher's e-mail addresses. It has been my 32 years of experience that led me to question your statement, as it is diametrically opposed to that of the overwhelming majority of IT personnel that have worked for me throughout the years.
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Everybody's privacy is protected. MSF, there is NO privacy when you are talking about any email address or email content when corresponding with a government employee. A school district email address is intended for school related business only NOT personal. It's primary function is for effective communication within the organization. Communicating with parents (customers) falls well within this function.
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The section in blue is the point that you began to bring Sunshine into this. You are talking about the fact that any request made for information by the parents is to be released under Sunshine. That fact is not disputed. My response was that Sunshine does not, at any time, require that the addresses be posted in public, and I cited a Florida website which confirmed that fact. I further agreed with you, that if parents request the information, the school is required to provide it, and should do so. But that, in no way whatsoever, means that the school should post teacher's e-mail addresses in a public forum. I cited several security and IT reasons why it would not be desirable, and your response was that IT staff working for the school would not be qualified to create a simple page. I've further agreed that technology is the way to go, and even suggested several methods that technology could be used to ensure communication. You proceeded to dismiss each and begin your personal attacks. That is where I suggested we take a break from the conversation.
No one has disputed your final point above. It is simply the method of delivering that information that has been contested. I'm not sure why it led to this personal of a fight.
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MSF wrote: Transfer that concept to the IT department at the school. FLTeacher works at the school (Military), just like the IT personnel. But if FLTeacher is not certified in IT, and does not have a broad understanding of IT's capabilities, how can she claim to have credibility with regards to what they can and can not do? Her experience is in the classroom, and her experience in the classroom is not being challenged. Her experience in IT is. FYI my experience in IT starts with a Bachelors of Science degree in Computer Science. Add to that numerous industry certifications, including Microsoft, and round it out with a teaching certification in Computer Science (one of many I hold). I am a second career teacher having spent many years in the IT field prior to switching to teaching. Does that qualify me, in your mind, to speak about the functions of an email server and the knowledge it takes to develop an interactive webpage?
All this discussion serves to do is completely divert from the original point. There is no need by school administration, nor a requirement by Sunshine, for teacher's e-mail addresses to be posted in public forum where anyone can see them. Parents have every right to request the teacher's e-mail addresses from the school, and the school should be required to provide them, IAW Sunshine. But the concept that the school should have to post them in public does not support any of the current requirements by law, and could serve to compromise or disrupt the school's IT security. Please quote from my posts where I state the Sunshine law mandates posting of teacher emails in a public forum. What I said is for the benefit of parents they should be easy to locate - the Internet allows this simplicity. We are talking about a business email address not their social security number.
The digital age is here to stay. The Internet and email will continue to grow in popularity and use as a communication tool. I for one think it is time our community leaders accept this and join the rest of the world in fully utilizing this inexpensive global method of communication.
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| Thanks Icare. BTW - I'm a woman not that it matters .
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