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FLA GIRL
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 08:25 pm |
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As for parenting I take pride in it, BUt when you ask the teachers for weekly reports and out of 7 teachers you get one, Ok what are the teachers problems, Its there responsibility with kids that have issues to do as they are asked by the counselor, So again I am raising my own child, He is 18 and I have tried all the below and more ,
I was raised in these school systems and I know how they are, I have seen teachers that should have never been teachers,or even that close to kids for they act like kids themselves.. So you explain why the high school received a D as a grade, do I have to say anymore,
Razor I finally went to the school as you, but again nothing happened, My issues was weekly progress reports asked for by the school board for a 501 student, this shows how much the teachers care about the kids, not saying all are like this, I gave my email address, cell number,home number and 2 alternate numbers they could contact, but when I came to a behavioral issue they found the time to call me,
You can stick up for the teachers all you want, but the grade proves what is happening,
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 07:02 pm |
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| I have to agree with the comment about the counselor. Apparently my kid is even less popular than FLA Girl's because I called four or five times and none of my calls were even returned. I finally went to the school guidance office and sat there until someone would talk to me. I know a counselor has a whole class -- around 300 students or more -- to take care of. But all of them should be treated equally. And all of their parents should be treated equally. It should not matter what your last name is.
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 05:51 pm |
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chobee buckeye wrote: Amen ciphered, Amen!
Seconded.
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 05:11 pm |
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| Amen ciphered, Amen!
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 04:41 pm |
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chobee buckeye wrote: Imagine that raising my child myself and not expecting the schools to do it for me... what a novel idea! Boy, you really are behind the times. Don't you know that parents aren't expected to raise their children today. It takes a village.
Your reply gives me hope for this country. But anyone, such as one of the earlier posters, who would let a child get away with writing nothing in their agenda and never doing homework, without contacting their teacher if they "had no clue" what was going on with their child's schooling, is simply failing as a parent. No responsible parent would wait 4 days for a school counselor to call them back. It's YOUR child. But the most telling comment was: "enrolled in this school with below a 2.0." And then threatening to get thrown off campus for speaking their mind "NEXT YEAR" is a great response to the problem. This kid needed some parental guidance long before this school year! Forget the school's grade. We ought to start grading parents!
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 04:23 pm |
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| Thank you ICare. As a highschool teacher, I try not to interfere too much with parental "venting". But, it is not my or any of my colleagues job to make sure a 16, 17, 18, or 19 year old young adult has written his assignment down. I know that if my son comes home without something written in his agenda for the day, then he loses his TV, computer, or cell phone. It's my responsibility as his parent to make sure that he is doing what he's supposed to do in school. And, if he's not giving me acceptable answers, then I call, email, or go to the school myself. Imagine that raising my child myself and not expecting the schools to do it for me... what a novel idea!
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 03:54 pm |
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FLA GIRL wrote: Bilgerat wrote: FLA GIRL wrote: This will tell you how bad the High school, is my son enrolled in this school with below a 2.0, I have never seen him do homework or the homework he did get was done during the school day, what happened to hours of studying that we did in school, my 6th grader brought home more homework in a week that my son that is a junior brought home in a month... Just because he didn't bring home work doesn't mean you can't sit his butt down and give him some  The issue is you never have an idea of what they are doing because the teachers do not make them write down there assignments...so you have no clue, I do make my 6th grader do x-tra thats why she is honor roll Why are YOU as the parent not making the child write the assignment down? The teachers have 150 students to keep up with, you only have your 1 or 2 or 3. YOU make the child write the assignment down, and if he doesn't, then hold him accountable. Stop trying to get the teachers to solve your problems for you. Do some parenting yourself and quit relying on the teacher to parent your child. Their job is to teach, and your job is to follow through and make sure they get it. I personally think this F-CAT is BS if an adult cant pass it how in the hell do they expect a child to pass it. How do you think the adult got to where he is? If you don't have some type of "control" testing how do you measure ? I would bet most of the teachers cant pass the test either, in fact I know several teachers who are against it themselves.....Teachers have to pass the Florida Teacher's Certification Exam in order to be teachers. It is much more rigorous than the FCAT--a high school leveled test. what happened to old fashioned teaching, not teaching just for a test, that's foolish, the state is to blame for this, give the SAT once a year to see the childs progress not to see if they go to the next grade like this other stupid test, I would bet have of the teachers cant pass it with out their books... So, once a year, and if they fail do you advance or keep them back? Wouldn't you want to "know" where your child stands before that situation occurs? If they did like they use to, they gave ssat at begining and end of year which shows the progress of the kids as well as the teachers along with report cards, also if your child is 18 in school they have the right to keep you from any and all due to being of legal age I have seen this more than once....
Have you ever tried to contact a counselor at the High School you would have a better chance pulling your own teeth, than speak to one.. I wont mention any names but the 11th grade counselor needs to be replace with one that cares for all the students not just the popular ones, I have a friend that her daughter ius a cheer leader and her son a ball player, we both called the school at the same time she received a call in a matter of hours, mine was returned 4 days later , what a good bunch we have , just because the student is not popular you push them to the side NOT, wanna bet I get throwed off campus this year for speaking my mind if this happens ....... I cannot answer to this Rather than complaining about someone, why don't you contact the counselor and set up an appointment? You can get more accomplished that way.
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FLA GIRL
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 11:22 pm |
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Bilgerat wrote: FLA GIRL wrote: This will tell you how bad the High school, is my son enrolled in this school with below a 2.0, I have never seen him do homework or the homework he did get was done during the school day, what happened to hours of studying that we did in school, my 6th grader brought home more homework in a week that my son that is a junior brought home in a month... Just because he didn't bring home work doesn't mean you can't sit his butt down and give him some The issue is you never have an idea of what they are doing because the teachers do not make them write down there assignments...so you have no clue, I do make my 6th grader do x-tra thats why she is honor roll I personally think this F-CAT is BS if an adult cant pass it how in the hell do they expect a child to pass it. How do you think the adult got to where he is? If you don't have some type of "control" testing how do you measure ? I would bet most of the teachers cant pass the test either, in fact I know several teachers who are against it themselves..... what happened to old fashioned teaching, not teaching just for a test, that's foolish, the state is to blame for this, give the SAT once a year to see the childs progress not to see if they go to the next grade like this other stupid test, I would bet have of the teachers cant pass it with out their books... So, once a year, and if they fail do you advance or keep them back? Wouldn't you want to "know" where your child stands before that situation occurs? If they did like they use to, they gave ssat at begining and end of year which shows the progress of the kids as well as the teachers along with report cards, also if your child is 18 in school they have the right to keep you from any and all due to being of legal age I have seen this more than once....
Have you ever tried to contact a counselor at the High School you would have a better chance pulling your own teeth, than speak to one.. I wont mention any names but the 11th grade counselor needs to be replace with one that cares for all the students not just the popular ones, I have a friend that her daughter ius a cheer leader and her son a ball player, we both called the school at the same time she received a call in a matter of hours, mine was returned 4 days later , what a good bunch we have , just because the student is not popular you push them to the side NOT, wanna bet I get throwed off campus this year for speaking my mind if this happens ....... I cannot answer to this
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 11:06 pm |
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FLA GIRL wrote: This will tell you how bad the High school, is my son enrolled in this school with below a 2.0, I have never seen him do homework or the homework he did get was done during the school day, what happened to hours of studying that we did in school, my 6th grader brought home more homework in a week that my son that is a junior brought home in a month... Just because he didn't bring home work doesn't mean you can't sit his butt down and give him some I personally think this F-CAT is BS if an adult cant pass it how in the hell do they expect a child to pass it. How do you think the adult got to where he is? If you don't have some type of "control" testing how do you measure ? what happened to old fashioned teaching, not teaching just for a test, that's foolish, the state is to blame for this, give the SAT once a year to see the childs progress not to see if they go to the next grade like this other stupid test, I would bet have of the teachers cant pass it with out their books... So, once a year, and if they fail do you advance or keep them back? Wouldn't you want to "know" where your child stands before that situation occurs?
Have you ever tried to contact a counselor at the High School you would have a better chance pulling your own teeth, than speak to one.. I wont mention any names but the 11th grade counselor needs to be replace with one that cares for all the students not just the popular ones, I have a friend that her daughter ius a cheer leader and her son a ball player, we both called the school at the same time she received a call in a matter of hours, mine was returned 4 days later , what a good bunch we have , just because the student is not popular you push them to the side NOT, wanna bet I get throwed off campus this year for speaking my mind if this happens ....... I cannot answer to this
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FLA GIRL
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 11:00 pm |
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This will tell you how bad the High school, is my son enrolled in this school with below a 2.0, I have never seen him do homework or the homework he did get was done during the school day, what happened to hours of studying that we did in school, my 6th grader brought home more homework in a week that my son that is a junior brought home in a month... I personally think this F-CAT is BS if an adult cant pass it how in the hell do they expect a child to pass it. what happened to old fashioned teaching, not teaching just for a test, thats foolish, the state is to blame for this, give the SAT once a year to see the childs progress not to see if they go to the next grade like this other stupid test, I would bet have of the teachers cant pass it with out their books...
Have you ever tried to contact a counselor at the High School you would have a better chance pulling your own teeth, than speak to one.. I wont mention any names but the 11th grade counselor needs to be replace with one that cares for all the students not just the popular ones, I have a friend that her daughter ius a cheer leader and her son a ball player, we both called the school at the same time she received a call in a matter of hours, mine was returned 4 days later , what a good bunch we have , just because the student is not popular you push them to the side NOT, wanna bet I get throwed off campus this year for speaking my mind if this happens .......
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 10:30 pm |
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T-BONE wrote: What are the honors classes all about? .......... Need an educated answer. I don't know the answer to that, since my children are out of high school. But I could find an answer pretty easily. And there are a couple of teachers on this forum who are at the high school. They may answer for you. My question, though, is how does this relate to the topic of the first post? The "school grades" are based upon the overall school performance on standardized tests.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 08:43 pm |
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What are the honors classes all about? Consider honors algebra - They use the same book as the regular Algebra class, start at the first chapter and end with the last chapter, yet they get weighted grades. It is said they go deeper into the math, why not teach all the same.
My son took the CPT for dual enrollment and scored around 100 in all three subjects, he wasn't in honors classes. Several honors class students could not score well enough to have dual enrollment.
On the IRCC dual enrollment application they requested an unweighted gpa. Most of the students on the gold honor roll were honors students, would they have made the same list if their gpa was not weighted?
I guess my question is, do the honors classes benefit the students or somehow benefit the school system?
Need an educated answer.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 07:53 pm |
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Ciphered...right on the money!
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 06:08 pm |
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I agree with the person who recently said on national television that taking kids out of classes 40 of 180 school days just for testing them to see where they stand has about the same result as taking plants out of the ground every few days to look at the roots to see how they are doing. The plants would never flourish and neither will our kids. These tests like FCAT and Kaplan, and the teaching of their content instead of the regular curriculum, is going to be devastating to our children's education.
A D grade at the high school is embarrassing. But the problem lies with parents who do not keep up with what their children are doing or not doing in school, with parents and school administrators who do not demand respect, acceptable behavior and reasonable effort from students, and with the migrants and illegals who are here only for a short time, not enough for the school to have an impact, but long enough to have to be tested with the whole school.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 03:05 pm |
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Central: B
North: B
Everglades: C
Seminole: B
South: A
YMS: A
OMS: A
OFC: B
OHS: D
Not bad overall, but it looks like the high school did it again - more than half of the lowest 25% of readers did not show reading gains. When that happens the state knocks the school down a letter grade - so for the high school it was from a "C" to a "D". In some ways the scores were higher in reading and particularly for math, yet science and writing scores went down. Now the state will be taking a closer look.
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