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rewsi67 wrote: Time to stock up on the ammo folks cause bad times are heading our way.
Funny you should mention that. A friend of mine who works in a nation-wide sporting good store in Texas says that they are selling at least 50 guns a day, and as many as 226 on one day. I guess these people do not believe Barack Hussein Obama's and Joe Biden's campaign rhetoric about supporting the Second Amendment and being opposed to restrictive gun controls.
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| Time to stock up on the ammo folks cause bad times are heading our way.
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butterflystar25 wrote: Totally agree! Voters better be paying attention to what our Presidential nominees have said or done in the past (recently brought to light, comments made by Obama, falsely accusing our soldiers/heroes of atrocities in Iraq that never happened (for an attention getter?)). By the way what album was that cover from. Thanks!
Please clarify. What "false" accusations did Obama make? What atrocities didn't happen?
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 03:34 pm |
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| Totally agree! Voters better be paying attention to what our Presidential nominees have said or done in the past (recently brought to light, comments made by Obama, falsely accusing our soldiers/heroes of atrocities in Iraq that never happened (for an attention getter?)). By the way what album was that cover from. Thanks!
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Bilgerat wrote: okeegator wrote: Bilgerat wrote: Meems wrote: Palin may not be ready to be president but neither is Obama.
They are both going to have to learn. I personally would rather have Palin learning to become VP and President than to have a president learning to be president after he is in office like Obama is going to have to do.
Well let's just ask Sen. Biden.
Sen. Biden, do you think Sen. Obama is ready to be President?
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."
Said in Aug. 2007
I guess he has changed his mind.
Politics makes strange bedfellows 
Yeah, like all of these conservative talking heads who now have to support John McCain after disparaging him during the primaries.
Limbaugh on Mccain http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/limbaugh-mccain.html
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/15494956.html
McCain tangles with conservatives
CNN) -- GOP front-runner John McCain is cruising into Super Tuesday with a hefty lead in the polls, but he's drawing a backlash from some top conservatives who say he is too liberal to carry the Republican nomination.
Sen. John McCain has come under attack from conservatives who say is he too liberal.
Radio hosts Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, Hugh Hewitt and Lars Larson are among the conservative voices speaking out against the Arizona senator.
The rest of the story:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/05/conservative.backlash/
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Obama’s leadership has inspired me to sharpen my warrior spirit. Obama’s plan for change will allow all enemies, foreign and domestic, access to this country’s jugular, and unfettered access to our destruction.
Time to stock up on the ammo folks cause bad times are heading our way.
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okeegator wrote: Bilgerat wrote: Meems wrote: Palin may not be ready to be president but neither is Obama.
They are both going to have to learn. I personally would rather have Palin learning to become VP and President than to have a president learning to be president after he is in office like Obama is going to have to do.
Well let's just ask Sen. Biden.
Sen. Biden, do you think Sen. Obama is ready to be President?
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."
Said in Aug. 2007
I guess he has changed his mind.
Politics makes strange bedfellows 
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okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: As Sarah Palin clearly demonstrated last night, she does not require any defending. She can capably do so herself.
That's no answer, that's a dodge.
As to whether or not Sarah Palin is qualified, there are only two qualifications:
#1: She meets the constitutional requirements of age and being a natural born citizen; and,
#2: Be elected by the people, and that will be decided on November 4.
No defense of Palin? No response to my posts? Can no one here give a direct response?
Aaa.................What was the question again?
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Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: As Sarah Palin clearly demonstrated last night, she does not require any defending. She can capably do so herself.
That's no answer, that's a dodge.
As to whether or not Sarah Palin is qualified, there are only two qualifications:
#1: She meets the constitutional requirements of age and being a natural born citizen; and,
#2: Be elected by the people, and that will be decided on November 4.
No defense of Palin? No response to my posts? Can no one here give a direct response?
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Bilgerat wrote: Meems wrote: Palin may not be ready to be president but neither is Obama.
They are both going to have to learn. I personally would rather have Palin learning to become VP and President than to have a president learning to be president after he is in office like Obama is going to have to do.
Well let's just ask Sen. Biden.
Sen. Biden, do you think Sen. Obama is ready to be President?
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."
Said in Aug. 2007
I guess he has changed his mind.
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Meems wrote: Palin may not be ready to be president but neither is Obama.
They are both going to have to learn. I personally would rather have Palin learning to become VP and President than to have a president learning to be president after he is in office like Obama is going to have to do.
Well let's just ask Sen. Biden.
Sen. Biden, do you think Sen. Obama is ready to be President?
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."
Said in Aug. 2007
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Palin may not be ready to be president but neither is Obama.
They are both going to have to learn. I personally would rather have Palin learning to become VP and President than to have a president learning to be president after he is in office like Obama is going to have to do.
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Concerned Taxpayer wrote: As Sarah Palin clearly demonstrated last night, she does not require any defending. She can capably do so herself.
That's no answer, that's a dodge.
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| Oh I see. You can't respond to my posts about Palin so you bring out a red herring? No defense of Palin? No response to my posts?
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year event maybe bedding down with Islam was a little strong As Barack Obama's candidacy comes under increasing scrutiny, his account of his religious upbringing deserves careful attention for what it tells us about the candidate's integrity.
Obama asserted in December, "I've always been a Christian," and he has adamantly denied ever having been a Muslim. "The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country [Kenya]. But I've never practiced Islam." In February, he claimed: "I have never been a Muslim. … other than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for 4 years when I was a child [Indonesia, 1967-71] I have very little connection to the Islamic religion."
"Always" and "never" leave little room for equivocation. But many biographical facts, culled mainly from the American press, suggest that, when growing up, the Democratic candidate for president both saw himself and was seen as a Muslim.
Read "Barack Obama's Muslim Childhood," by noted authority on the Middle East and Islam, Dr. Daniel Pipes. Dr. Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum and Taube/Diller distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution of Stanford University.
A second article by Dr. Pipes, "Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam." 1997 Obama introduces "Islamic Community Day" bill -- Synopsis of Bill as introduced: Declares November 1, 1997 to be South Shore Islamic Community Center Day. 2001 Beyond the visits to his Muslim relatives in Africa, Obama had little to say about Islam and Muslims until the events of 9/11. After that date, Obama begins to become more public in his support of Muslims and their cause. 2001 Obama is protective of civil rights for Muslims in the U.S., saying, "In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging," he laments. "I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." 2001 Obama sponsors Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the "Halal Food Act," providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.
Islamization -- here's how it works and why Halal food plays a role. 2003 Obama calls the Iraq war "a botched and ill-advised U.S. military incursion into a Muslim country." 2006 In August, Obama took a taxpayer-funded trip to Africa. While he was in northern Kenya, he was photographed in full Muslim regalia.

The photo appears in the February 4th, 2008 edition of "The Examiner," under the caption, "Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is dressed in Muslim attire while on a trip to Kenya." (Click source image to enlarge)
Gateway Pundit has uncovered what is probably the original posting of the photograph at Han-Geeska Afrika Onlline.
[Geeska Afrika caption:] U.S. Senator Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali Elder by Sheikh Mahmed Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya, near the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia. The area is at the epicenter of a severe drought that has hit the Horn of Africa region, after erratic and insufficient rains during the April-June season.
2/27/07 Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent."
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim's complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.
Obama knows this from his Quranic studies -- and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the Islamic world.
Regardless of Obama's religion, what message is he sending the world's 1.2 billion Muslims?
I suppose it's easy for Obama to remember the Shahada for the 35 years since he left Indonesia -- and in 'first-class' Arabic -- especially since he believes the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."
The fact that Obama can recall the Shahada after 35 years and the fact that he believes that the daily call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth" say that those Muslim prayers run through his head often -- what does that make him?
Original New York Times source -- has been deleted by the New York Times -- HERE is the Kristof article on another site. 4/8/07 Obama shows his Muslim/Palestinian solidarity and sensitivity, by telling Muscatine, Illinois Democratic party activists that he supports relaxing restrictions on aid to the Palestinian people.
He said they have suffered the most as a result of stalled peace efforts with Israel. "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people." 4/30/07 In an interview with the New York Times, Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half sister, told the Times, "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." (Alternate link)
I assume Maya thinks of her brother, Obama, as a member of her family?
Although Anna Dunham is often described as an atheist, I assume Maya thinks of her mother as a member of her family, as well.
How else would one interpret that statement? 1/31/08 Obama told a French magazine in an interview that if he wins office, he will hold a summit with Muslim countries to better the United States' image in the world.
"Once I'm elected, I want to organize a summit in the Muslim world, with all the heads of state, to have an honest discussion about ways to bridge the gap that grows every day between Muslims and the West." 2/20/08 Firas Ahmad comments on "Our Obama Problem" at altmuslim.com.
"But for many reasons, Muslims are one constituency Obama does not want to court. With a wink and a nod, Obama's Muslim supporters continue to work for a candidate who cannot afford to wink back at them. Given his perceived "closeness" to Islam, and the fact that he shares a name with a former Iraqi dictator, it could be strategic suicide for the Obama campaign to vocally acknowledge organized Muslim support. At a time when endorsements are worn like badges of honor, no major candidate is looking for the Muslim vote."
Falsehoods told to prevent the denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned in the Qur’an and Sunna, including lying under oath in testimony before a court, and deceiving by making distorted statements to the media such as the claim that Islam is a "religion of peace." A Muslim is even permitted to deny or denounce his faith if, in so doing, he protects or furthers the interests of Islam, so long as he remains faithful to Islam in his heart.
Like many Islamic practices, taqiyya was formed within the context of the culture of Arab tribalism, expansionary warfare, Bedouin raiding and inter-tribal conflict. Taqiyya has been used by Muslims since the 7th century to confuse, confound and divide "the enemy." 3/4/08 Obama said that America, under his Presidency, will stop being a "bully." (Video)
He also said an Obama presidency would work to regain the trust of Muslims worldwide with Washington-led aid programs in Muslim countries. 3/5/08 Most Arab-Americans support Obama and many feel a kinship with the Democrat, who they say can repair America's reputation abroad.
"The American image in the outside world has been damaged, and we want someone who will reach out to others and say, 'Let's sit at the table and talk,'" said Saleh Mubarak, who emigrated from Syria in 1981. "That's what attracted me to Obama. He said, 'I will sit with Iran, I will sit with anyone.'"
"The biography, the empathy factor, they feel Obama understands the community," said James Zogby, a senior analyst for Zogby International and founder and president of the Arab American Institute, a Washington, D.C., organization that researches politics and policy in the Arab-American community.
Arab-Americans also remember a line in Obama's speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, "If there's an Arab-American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties." 3/10/08 Obama, is seeking, once again, to validate, embolden, and encourage the followers of Osama Bin Laden and other terrorist groups by removing our soldiers from a battlefield where we have never known defeat. Worse still hundreds of thousands of craven unthinking Americans are more than willing to allow Obama-mania to permit Americas enemies to survive another day, replenish their strength, and strategize again how best to harm the United States. 3/12/08 Whose Fault Is It? The Barack Hussein Obama flap, that is. Who was the one who started this mess? Which bigoted, anti-Islamic right wing nutjob was responsible for initially using Barack’s incendiary middle name as a clever political device?
Well, uh … that would be Barack Hussein Obama.
Sometime before Barack Obama’s middle name slipped into the realm of the unmentionable, it was supposed to be a selling point of his candidacy. "Well, I think if you’ve got a guy named Barack Hussein Obama, that’s a pretty good contrast to George W. Bush," Mr. Obama told PBS’s Tavis Smiley on October 18, 2007. "If you believe that we’ve got to heal America and we’ve got to repair our standing in the world, then I think my supporters believe that I am the messenger who can deliver that message."
Somehow, that was supposed to make him better than George W. Bush, but seeing as George W. Bush’s middle name is actually "Walker," as in Walker, Texas Ranger, it's hard to make that argument with a straight face. Walker beats Hussein hands down. In fact, if he could have beat the real Hussein, he probably would have, except that our government preferred that Saddam go down after a fight, not with a clean blow to the jugular.
We think this means his name is now fair game for anyone. 3/12/08 Was Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King on the mark last week when he asserted Islamic terrorists would rejoice if Obama becomes the next U.S. president?
What do the terrorists think about these policies? Well, journalist, Aaron Klein, recently asked them:
Ramadan Adassi, leader of the Al Aqsa Brigades terror group in the West Bank's Anskar refugee camp, pointed to Obama's rise to stardom as "an important success. He won popularity in spite of the Zionists and the conservatives."
Abu Hamed, leader of the Al Aqsa Brigades in the northern Gaza Strip, explained the Democrat candidates' anti-war positions "prove that important leaders are understanding the situation differently and are understanding the price and the consequences of the American policy in Iraq and in the world."
Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel "proud."
"As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk," he told me for my book. "Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal."
Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas' military wing in the Gaza Strip, was more direct: The policy of withdrawal, he stated, "proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation."
What about dialogue with America's enemies, such as sit-downs with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Obama has so fervently advocated?
Muhammad Abdel-Al, spokesperson and a senior leader of the Popular Resistance Committees terror group, recently explained to me U.S. willingness to negotiate and initiate dialogue "shows the Islamic resistance is bringing the giant [America] to is knees."
"It would be a great achievement complemented by more and more dead American soldiers they will carry in coffins to the U.S.," said Abdel-Al. 4/3/08 Obama '08 promotes the end of Israel
Post from Tony Wicher's Blog for Peace
(Hosted by the official Obama '08 website)
A different relationship with Israel: key to Middle East peace
By Tony Wicher - Feb 16th, 2007 at 11:09 am EST

The current treatment of the Palestinians is worse than South African apartheid ever was -- it combines the worst features of apartheid and military occupation. The purpose of it is simply to drive the Palestinians out. There has never been any serious intention of allowing a Palestinian state. Israel is the product of a 19th century ideology, Zionism, that combines good old-fashioned colonialism with good old-fashioned segregationism. In the time of Theodore Herzl this was considered normal, but times have changed. Israel will not be able to complete the colonial project. It will have to make an accommodation with the Palestinians. But a Palestinian state is not the way. The "Green line,"”, the 1967 line, etc. must be regarded as temporary armistice lines. They cannot be the basis for a permanent political settlement. The only way to settle this conflict is reunification, not partition. Israelis and Palestinians must agree to live together as equal citizens in a democratic state -- whether they like it or not. There is no real alternative, other than endless war.
The treatment of the Palestinians by Israelis is the number one cause and justification for terrorism. As long as it goes on the terrorists can justly claim moral equivalence. As long as the United States continues with its current unqualified support of Israel and Israeli apartheid, it makes itself the object of terrorism as well. This must stop. Only the United States can make Israel do the right thing. The next U.S. administration must understand that this is the key to Middle East peace and to defeating terrorism.
4/3/08 Islamic Support For Obama Coming Into The Open In California
Outside this mosque (see photo at link) in Anaheim, California (State College Drive) we finally got definitive evidence of two things:
1. Word has been out in the Islamic community worldwide for some time (specially Indonesia and Malaysia) to begin overt support for Obama.
2. We heard rumors of the Islamic Republic of Iran also passing the word to their American agents and clerics to support Obama but had nothing tangible till now.
3. The photo above was taken during the last week of March, 2008 by an AntiMullah person who happened to see this woman and was delighted to have a camera on hand.
4. Don't be misled by there only being one person. Mosques have been told to get the message across effectively rather than to hold demonstrations, since there was no protest involved where numbers rather than a "bilingual" sign become important.
Note the "bilingual" aspect uses English lettering for Persian (not Arabic) words to reach a broader audience than writing it in Farsi (Persian) fonts. 4/9/08 Tom Bevan expresses puzzlement over a passage of the keynote speech given by Minnesota Fifth District Rep. Keith Ellison at the Muslim Youth Leadership Symposium this past weekend in Illinois. According to a report of his speech, Ellison touted the virtues of Islamic illumination for an enlightened understanding of current events: Ellison went on to say if more people knew of what Islam had to teach, the controversy created by statements from presidential candidate Barack Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, might not have occurred. Without more in the way of a direct quotation, it would be imprudent to make too much of this passage. But it's interesting to see Ellison speaking on events related to the Obama campaign. In "Louis Farrakhan's first Congressman," I took a look at Ellison's troubling public record and past associations before his election to Congress. Ellison's record and associations previewed similar issues that have begun to emerge in the course of Obama's campaign. 4/9/08 A group of young men in Gaza gather before each primary in support of Senator Barack Obama. These well-dressed young men, looking vastly different from the street photos of the poor and depressed we usually see, meet in an internet cafe and make random phone calls to American voters, urging a vote for Obama. They believe he can bring peace to the Middle East.
And, who is paying for these phone calls and for the online-time? And when was the last time Gazans were involved in American politics?
2008  Welcome to Obama Youth, a website for young supporters of Barack Obama. The purpose of this site is to provide both individuals and groups a central place to share ideas, locate resources, organize events and communicate about supporting the candidacy of Senator Obama. While many of us may not yet be old enough to vote, we still have the ability to make a difference, spread the word, and shape Obama's platform.
Why do you think the Islamic crescent was chosen by this organization to symbolize "Obama Youth?"
And be sure to watch the short video (at link) that calls for the end of the "useless war."
NOTE: Click the link -- a BRAND NEW LOGO!
Here is another example of the Obamalytes scrubbing the Internet of content that reflects negatively on the "anointed one."
In this case they have removed the original Islamic crescent, displayed above, and replaced it with a less controversial, modified campaign logo.
Haven't got a clue about the video?
4/10/08 It was a celebration of Palestinian culture -- a night of music, dancing and a dash of politics. Local Arab Americans were bidding farewell to Rashid Khalidi, an internationally known scholar, critic of Israel and PLO operative, who was leaving town for a job in New York.
A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.
Obama's presence at such events, as he worked to build a political base in Chicago, has led some Palestinian leaders to believe that he might deal differently with the Middle East than either of his opponents for the White House.
"I am confident that Barack Obama is more sympathetic to the position of ending the occupation than either of the other candidates," said Hussein Ibish, a senior fellow for the American Task Force on Palestine, referring to the Israeli presence in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that began after the 1967 war. More than his rivals for the White House, Ibish said, Obama sees a "moral imperative" in resolving the conflict and is most likely to apply pressure to both sides to make concessions.
"That's my personal opinion," Ibish said, "and I think it for a very large number of circumstantial reasons, and what he's said." 4/10/08 Obama: Al-Qaeda is not -- where?
Barack Obama has a problem when he gets off script. In Gary, Indiana, Obama wants to make the point that al-Qaeda needs to be pursued, but in Pakistan. Unfortunately, Obama almost makes a big mistake, and the walk-back isn’t exactly effective:
Note the problem Obama creates for himself in this stumble. He stopped just short of saying that al-Qaeda isn’t in Iraq. He wanted to say it, but he stopped himself, and for good reason -- al-Qaeda is in Iraq. Saying otherwise would have made him look ill-informed, and he knows it. He corrects himself to say that AQ senior leadership isn’t in Iraq.
Given that, and given his buildup of warning how great a strategic danger AQ presents to the US, then why does Obama want to retreat from Iraq? We’re trying to take down the whole network. An effective strategy would have us fighting them in Iraq and in the Pakistan/Afghanistan theater -- which we’re doing now. We managed to fight two wars simultaneously in 1941-1945 on much larger scales than we face today. If he can’t walk and chew gum at the same time, should he really be Commander in Chief? (via Jim Geraghty)
4/11/08 Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said on Friday it was not his place to criticize former President Jimmy Carter if he were to meet with Hamas. 4/16/08 While Sen. Barack Obama sought to improve his relationship with the Jewish community today by meeting with leaders Philadelphia, comments by a Hamas political adviser this weekend could potentially hurt the Democratic presidential candidate.
During an interview on WABC radio Sunday, top Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef said the terrorist group supports Obama’s foreign policy vision.
"We don’t mind -- actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance," Yousef said in response to a question about the group’s willingness to meet with either of the Democratic presidential candidates. 4/22/08 Democratic White House contender Barack Obama could not hide his irritation Monday when asked by a reporter what he thought about former president Jimmy Carter's meeting with Hamas last week.
"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" the Illinois senator said as he ate breakfast in Scranton, Pennsylvania, according to MSNBC television pictures.
Pressed again for an answer, he replied: "Just let me eat my waffle."
Adding insult to...insult, a fellow customer of the Glider Diner in Scranton has put Obama's waffle plate -- the one on which he was focused when rudely interrupted by reporters -- on eBay. 4/23/08 Two years ago, Hatem El-Hady was the chairman of the Toledo, Ohio-based Islamic charity, Kindhearts, which was closed by the US government in February 2006 for terrorist fundraising and all its assets frozen. Today, El-Hady has redirected his fundraising efforts for his newest cause -- Barack Obama for President.
El-Hady has his own dedicated page on Barack Obama's official website, chronicling his fundraising on behalf of the Democratic Party presidential candidate. Not only that, but he has none other than Barack Obama's wife, Michelle Obama, listed as one of his friends and one of her 224 listed friends.

But his leadership of Kindhearts is not the only thing that has brought him scrutiny by federal law enforcement officials. Last summer, El-Hady was questioned by the FBI concerning his knowledge of possible conspirators in a UK-based terror plot.
The Department of Justice had a very different version of events. According to the DOJ, Kindhearts assumed the role of lead terrorist fundraising in the US after the government had closed other such Islamic "charities."
"KindHearts is the progeny of Holy Land Foundation and Global Relief Foundation, which attempted to mask their support for terrorism behind the façade of charitable giving," said Stuart Levey, Treasury Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.
Not only was Kindhearts engaged in providing funds for HAMAS in Lebanon and the West Bank, it had hired as a fundraising specialist the man identified as the designated HAMAS bag man in the US, Mohammed El-Mezain.
And as investigative reporter Joe Kaufman revealed in "The Black Hearts of Kindhearts," a number of other Kindhearts officials were tied to terrorist fundraising and support, as well.
Not any more -- the Obamalytes have removed her name from Hatem's friend's list -- busy little beavers are scrubbing away at the web. -- Update: Now the entire page has disappeared????
4/23/08 Iranians root for Obama.
Commenting on the Iranian preference for a Democrat in the White House, Sergei Barseghian, a columnist for the reformist Etemad Meli newspaper noted that in Farsi, the words "Oo ba ma" would translate as "He's with us."
The sympathy his candidacy has aroused among many Iranians stems from a variety of factors, including his African heritage, his Muslim family ties, and a belief that Obama would move to end Washington's 30-year Cold War with Tehran -- or at least reduce the prospect of a U.S. military attack on the Islamic Republic. "I think people want him to win," said Shi'ite cleric Mehdi Karroubi, the reformist former parliament speaker defeated by Ahmadinejad in Iran's 2005 presidential contest.
It's Obama's declared willingness to engage in "aggressive personal diplomacy" with the Iranian leadership that has generated the most interest among senior officials in Tehran.
"Obama is a man of engagement, a man of negotiations," one Iranian official said. Amir Mohebbian, an analyst close to Iranian conservative politicians, argues that "the mentality of Iranian decision makers is ready for that." 4/26/08 Yesterday's blogger call with John McCain contained a remarkable exchange in which McCain, noting the fact that Hamas has endorsed Obama for President, said:
"It's very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States. So apparently has Danny Ortega and several others. I think that people should understand that I will be Hamas's worst nightmare.... If senator Obama is favored by Hamas I think people can make judgments accordingly." 5/4/08 May 4th -- On "Meet the Press" this morning Obama mistook Iran for Israel when talking about defending them against an Iranian attack.
He said, "Israel is an ally of ours, it's the most important ally we have in the region and there is no doubt that we would act forcefully and appropriately on any attack against Iran, nuclear or otherwise" 5/11/08 It's no surprise that the media are in the tank for Barack Obama, but the willingness of the New York Times to simply misrepresent the facts -- while pretending to act as a fact-checker! -- is pretty breathtaking. You may think the Times is an outlier, if not a joke, but I suspect that many more news outlets are prepared to follow the Times' lead in flat-out misreporting the facts, if that's what it takes to get Obama elected.
The Times story is "On McCain, Obama and a Hamas Link." It takes John McCain to task for pointing out that Hamas has endorsed Obama. The Times reporter, Larry Rohter, says that John McCain has "again portrayed the Democratic contender as being the favorite of Hamas, the militant Palestinian group." Of course, this is not McCain's "portrayal;" it is an indisputable fact that Hamas has endorsed Obama and has said that it hopes he will be elected. But the paper's most egregious error, in its campaign "fact check" column, is yet to come.
Rohter notes that charges and counter-charges have gone back and forth between the McCain and Obama campaigns, but Rohter judges that McCain is mostly at fault:
But important nuances appear to have been lost in the partisan salvos, particularly on Mr. McCain’s side. McCain, Rohter writes, is guilty because he says that Obama has advocated "unconditional" meetings with Iran's President:
n a fund-raising letter sent out in April, a spokesman for Mr. McCain wrote: "We need change in America, but not the kind of change that wins kind words from Hamas, surrenders in Iraq and will hold unconditional talks with Iranian President Ahmadinejad."
That, the Times says, is wrong.
But, who you gonna believe -- well, here's the video -- is the Times lying -- is Obama's Campaign lying -- you decide.
Not good enough? How about the fact that Obama's web site contains this statement:
Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. 5/12/08 NY Times Admits Obama's Muslim Birth.
After relentlessly labeling anyone who brings up the issue of Barack Obama’s Muslim origins as a bigot, a racist, or a lunatic, suddenly this morning the New York Times publishes an op-ed that actually admits Obama was born a Muslim -- and that it might cause serious problems in an Obama presidency. 5/14/08 PowerLine blog observes that Obama and his legion of supporters in the MSM may not like the fact that Hamas supports his candidacy, or that John McCain and his supporters mention this fact. But it's not difficult to understand why Hamas favors Obama. Consider this statement by Obama regarding Lebanon:
"This effort to undermine Lebanon’s elected government needs to stop, and all those who have influence with Hezbollah must press them to stand down immediately. . . It’s time to engage in diplomatic efforts to help build a new Lebanese consensus that focuses on electoral reform, an end to the current corrupt patronage system, and the development of the economy that provides for a fair distribution of services, opportunities and employment."
The naivety of this statement is staggering. As Noah Pollak asks: "Does Obama understand that the people who 'have influence with Hezbollah' happen to be the same people on whose behalf Hezbollah is rampaging through Lebanon?" And does he really believe that Hezbollah and its sponsors can be pacified or neutralized by electoral reform, an end to corrupt patronage, and "fair" distribution of services?
Obama may well fail to comprehend the first point and believe the second, just as naive leftists of an earlier generation thought that Ho Chi Minh was, at root, an agrarian reformer. In any case, Pollak is correct that "Obama is rhetorically cornered; since his only prescription for the Middle East is diplomatic engagement, every disease gets re-diagnosed as something curable through talking."
No wonder he's Hamas' man. 5/17/08 John McCain, speaking in front of the National Rifle Association had some advice for young Mr. Obama:
"I have some news for Senator Obama: talking, not even with soaring rhetoric, (unconditional)... in unconditional meetings with a man who calls Israel a 'stinking corpse,' and arms terrorists who kill Americans, will not convince Iran to give up its nuclear programs."
"It is reckless, it is reckless to suggest that unconditional meetings will advance our interests."
"You know, it would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we don’t have enemies. But that’s not the world we live in. And until Senator Obama understands that reality, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment, and determination to keep us safe." 5/17/08 Debbie Schussel wants to know why Barack Obama claims he's against HAMAS and Hezbollah, but is meeting with one of Hezbollah's most important imams and agents in America, Imam Hassan Qazwini?
And wants to know why is this open anti-Semite and supporter of Israel's annihilation getting to discuss "the Arab-Israeli conflict" in a private, one-on-one meeting with Obama? What was said? I think we can do the math.
 Qazwini is an agent of the Iranian government, spreading its propaganda. He was sent to the U.S. by Iran to help radicalize his mosque, the Islamic Center of America, which -- at the time -- was becoming moderate with women not covering their hair and mixing with men. All that has changed, under Qazwini.
Qazwini is very open about his support for Palestinian homicide bombings, HAMAS, and Hezbollah, and he's a good friend of Hezbollah spiritual leader, Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah -- the man who issued the fatwa to Hezbollah terrorists to murder over 300 U.S. Marines and U.S. Embassy civilians in cold blood. Qazwini's mosque has held rallies and celebrations in support of Hezbollah, and many of Hezbollah's biggest money-launderers and agents in America are his congregants.
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5/20/08 Hamas leader Ahmed Yousef has been quoted saying, "We like Mr. Obama and we hope that he will win the election."

A controversy unfolded last month when Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef told Aaron Klein, author of "Schmoozing with Terrorists," and WABC radio, his group hopes Obama will win the presidential election and change America's foreign policy. 5/20/08 Obama displays profound ignorance of asymmetric warfare.
By stating that Iran isn't a threat because they spend much less on defense than the US, Obama displays a complete ignorance of how asymmetric warfare operates. The AQ "defense budget" for pulling off 9/11, was by comparison to the US, essentially zero.
An analysis of the Iranian order of battle and where they've been spending their defense dollars over the past 10 years would show that they are a serious threat in certain specific areas. They've been investing heavily in coastal batteries, anti-ship missile systems, silent diesel electric subs, and such. They could turn the narrow strait of Hormuz into an un-navigable scrap yard faster than the US Navy could stop them or the US Air force could neutralize those batteries and missiles.
Are the Iranians going to bomb NYC or invade Chicago? No. Can they be a major pain in the ass to the rest of the world if they decided to suicidally squeeze oil shipments through the straight? Absolutely! 5/23/08 Obama was grilled on his ties to the Pro-Palestinian Professor Rashid Khalidi.
A persistent questioner at a campaign stop Thursday grilled Barack Obama on his ties to a professor with pro-Palestinian views, prompting Obama to speak at some length against "guilt by association" and about his support for the Jewish community.
The at-times heated exchange occurred during a town hall event held at a synagogue in Boca Raton, Fla. The questioner focused on Obama’s relationship to Rashid Khalidi, a professor of Arab studies at Columbia University who has drawn fire for some of his criticisms of Israel.
Obama responded by saying he has met Khalidi and spoken with him in an academic context, when Obama was teaching at the University of Chicago. In the 1970s, when Khalidi taught at a university in Beirut, he often spoke to reporters on behalf of Yasser Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organization. In the early 1990s, he advised the Palestinian delegation during peace negotiations. Khalidi now occupies a prestigious professorship of Arab studies at Columbia
"He is not one of my advisers. He’s not one of my foreign policy people," Obama said. "He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel’s policy."
Obama then objected to the suggestion that his contacts with Khalidi mean he shares Khalidi’s views.
"Part of my philosophy … is I believe in listening to people even when I disagree with them," Obama said. "And part of the reason that the Jewish community in Chicago is so close to me is because they know that on many occasions I’ve spoken out vigorously against anti-Semitism, even in my own community, even when it’s not convenient.
Yo! Obama, exactly when is anti-Semitism convenient? When the media is absent? When it's just you, Michelle, Wright and Farrakhan?
5/25/08 Is Iran gunning for a victory by presidential candidate Barack Obama?
Depends on whom you ask. But, yeah. It is.
Despite the official line that it won’t make any difference who wins the U.S. presidency (after all, they say, America is totally under the thumb of "Zionists"), Iranians are watching the U.S. elections closely and rooting for a victory by the Illinois senator, who has said he's willing to agree to unconditional talks with Iran.
"I should say, he is a phenomenon, based on what he has said so far," Sadegh Kharazzi, a former Iranian diplomat squarely in the reformist camp now out of power, said. "Unless he is drawn into traditional Democratic Party ways, his election as a president will be welcomed in Iran."
Wrote the conservative daily Hamshahri on May 7:
Obama has adopted the friendliest strategies regarding Iran, because he believes that America should change its policy in dealing with Tehran, while other candidates have more hostile policies. 6/6/08 On Wednesday, Obama, appearing in front of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, said Jerusalem should be Israel's undivided capital, saying, "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."
Well, on Thursday, Palestinian leaders reacted with anger and dismay to this statement, so Obama immediately flip-flopped on his support for Israel's stance on Jerusalem, saying Palestinians and Israelis had to negotiate the future of the holy city.
Two positions in two days -- this guy is very confused -- and let's be very clear about this -- under pressure from Palestinians and terrorists, Obama caved in on one of Israel's most fundamental issues.
Not a good sign for those meetings with Ahmadinejad that Obama keeps talking about. 6/7/08
Another Terrorist In Obama-Land -- Rashid Khalidi -- Anti-Israel Agenda? (06:03) 6/11/08 I almost don't believe what I just read in The New York Times -- and from Thomas Friedman, no less:
"This column will probably get Barack Obama in trouble, but that’s not my problem. I cannot tell a lie: Many Egyptians and other Arab Muslims really like him and hope that he wins the presidency."
Requires Log In . . . 6/11/08 The MEMRI Blog reports that an editorial, the Saudi paper Al-Watan stated that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is more capable than anyone else of bringing about change in U.S. policy, particularly in all things connected to the Middle East.
The paper added that in light of Obama's intent to conduct a dialogue with Iran, the Middle East countries should launch a dialogue with him and help him better understand what is going on.
One can only imagine what change the Saudis what kind of change the are hoping for.
 6/16/08 FReeper, "GovernmentIsTheProblem," comments on this Obama quote, "Sometimes this is a difficult road being in politics. Sometimes you can become fearful, sometimes you can become vain, sometimes you can seek power just for power’s sake instead of because you want to do service to God. I just want all of you to pray that I can be an instrument of God in the same way that Pastor Ron and all of you are instruments of God . . . We’re going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."
HE IS TALKING ABOUT JIHAD!!!!!
The first part of this statement is the INTERNAL struggle.
"Sometimes this is a difficult road being in politics. Sometimes you can become fearful, sometimes you can become vain, sometimes you can seek power just for power’s sake instead of because you want to do service to God."
The SECOND part is about the EXTERNAL struggle.
"I just want all of you to pray that I can be an instrument of God in the same way that Pastor Ron and all of you are instruments of God . . . We’re going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."
There are 2 jihads, he talks about them both in this paragraph. 6/19/08 Yesterday, while Obama advisers Sen. John Kerry and ex-White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke were praising the Supreme Court ruling that bin Laden can appeal to U.S. courts, Obama was wrapping up his trip to Michigan by meeting with a group of "community leaders."
One of those so-called leaders has been identified as Osama Siblani, publisher of the Arab American News, and an agent of Hezbollah. Siblani,, an open supporter of the terrorist group, was handpicked for the meeting by the Obama campaign and Obama spoke one-to-one with Siblani.
Siblani's brother works for Al-Manar a/k/a Hezbollah TV in Lebanon, and Siblani's newspaper is Hezbollah's house organ in America. Sources say Hezbollah has funneled money to the paper. Siblani was at a small 2006 Dearborn meeting identified in the Kuwaiti newspaper, Al-Seyassah, as a meeting of Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah's American Hezbollah agents.
Nasrallah has been a member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, the class="text14"commander of Hezbolla troops in Bekaa, and a member of the Shura Council, Hezbollah’s highest institution.
Siblani has openly praised Hezbollah, the group that murdered over 300 U.S. Marines and U.S. Embassy employees, as "freedom fighters" everywhere from Hezbollah rallies to interviews on National Public Radio to a Detroit radio station which constantly has him on, unchallenged. At a 2006 pro-Hezbollah rally in Dearborn, Siblani called for the participants to "pray for the Hezbollah martyrs."
This video shows Siblani leading a Michigan rally and repeatedly asking, "Who is the terrorist?" -- and the crowd responds, "Bush, George Bush." He then goes on to question the crowd, "Who is the freedom fighter?" -- and they shout "Hezbollah, Hezbollah" -- and this rally takes place in America.
The very fact that Obama invited Siblani to talk with him is yet another sign that Barack Obama has no problem with supporters of terrorists who murder Americans.
Previously, Obama had a private meeting with an imam who is an agent of Hezbollah and the government of Iran. Why is he meeting with one of Hezbollah's most important imams and agents in America, Imam Hassan Qazwini?

Why is this anti-Semite and supporter of Israel's annihilation getting to discuss "the Arab-Israeli conflict" in a private one-on-one meeting with Obama? What was said?
Debbie Schlussel has written about Qazwini and his mosque for almost a decade. He is tight with the Government of Iran, and he is an agent of the Iranian government, spreading its propaganda. He was sent to the U.S. by Iran to help radicalize his mosque, the Islamic Center of America, which, at the time, was becoming moderate with women not covering their hair and mixing with men.
All that has changed, under Qazwini.
"I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." -- Barack Hussein Obama
6/19/08 Obama says if Osama bin Laden were captured on his watch, he'd want to ensure he doesn't become a martyr if he were prosecuted. Obama said he's not sure that the terrorist mastermind would be captured alive.
But if he were, Obama said he would want to bring him to justice "in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he's engaged in and not to make him into a martyr."
"I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." -- Barack Hussein Obama 7/4/08 The Obama campaign faces a burgeoning problem: the tendency of certain highly-placed Muslims overseas to declare that he is of their faith. The latest to do so is Libya's Qadhafi, in remarks made marking the anniversary of the U.S. air raid on Libya. MEMRI provides this transcript:
"There are elections in America now. Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama. All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency."
"We still hope that this black man will take pride in his African and Islamic identity, and in his faith, and that [he will know] that he has rights in America, and that he will change America from evil to good, and that America will establish relations that will serve it well with other peoples, especially the Arabs."
Americans believe that Barack Obama has every right to become a Christian as an adult and proclaim his faith in Jesus Christ. Americans understand that true religious identity depends on the faith one accepts. But we deceive ourselves if we believe the rest of the world thinks this way.
The Muslim world sees it differently. A baby born to a Muslim father is a Muslim. One who leaves Islam for another faith is an apostate. It's scriptural.
Facts are stubborn things. 7/17/08 On Sunday CNN aired an interview Barack Obama recently gave to Fareed Zakaria, in which the candidate expressed the opinion that Islamic jihad is a result of U.S. foreign policy failure.
The possibility that the jihad might have arisen not as a reaction to actions of America and the West -- and cannot be ended by our actions, either, with the possible exception of overwhelming military and cultural force -- is something Obama will not admit to.
Obama blames jihad on poverty, even though most of the terrorists we know by name are professionals and college educated -- many are physicians and engineers.
Is Obama really ignorant of the fact that there is an expansionist and supremacist imperative shared by all orthodox sects and schools of Islam? Is he really ignorant of the fact that jihad is the will of Mohammed, is 1,500 years old and for Muslims, there's nothing extreme about it?
Islam divides the world into two parts. Dar al-Islam (Dar es Salaam) is the abode of peace. It is inhabited exclusively by Muslims and Dhimmi. The other is Dar al-Harb, the abode of war. It is inhabited by kuffār, an Arabic word meaning "rejecter." It is usually translated into English as "infidel" or "unbeliever" -- that's you.
Jihad exists for the sole purpose of converting the abode of Dar al-Harb into the abode of Dar al-Islam. It has nothing to do with poverty -- and Obama knows that. 7/21/08 Obama's campaign has hired Hiam Nawas as its Muslim liaison, according to two sources familiar with the move.
Nawas, a Jordanian-American who filled a similar role for the campaign of General Wesley Clark in 2004, has a role complicated by the fact that Obama has been forced repeatedly to deny that he is Muslim, a situation which grates on some Muslim-Americans.
Shades of the NAFTA kerfluffle -- Obama gets to tell us one thing while Nawas tells her constituency something else. 7/25/08  8/9/08 Obama's Muslim Outreach Adviser resigned this week amid questions about his involvement in an Islamic investment fund and fundamentalist groups.
Chicago lawyer Mazen Asbahi, who was appointed National Coordinator for Muslim American affairs by the Obama campaign on July 26, stepped down Monday after an Internet newsletter wrote about his brief stint on an Islamic investment fund's board, which also included a fundamentalist imam.
Mr. Asbahi was brought on in part to bridge to reach out to the Muslim communities in Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia.
"We need Muslim Americans to get excited about the Campaign, and there's a lot to get excited about!" Mr. Asbahi wrote in a statement posted on the campaign blog when he was appointed.
Asbahi served on the board of Al
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Concerned Taxpayer wrote: The Democrats keep harping about the fact that Sarah Palin does not have any foreign policy experience. Exactly what foreign policy experience would any governor have? What foreign policy experience did Bill Clinton have, other than being a draft-dodger in England? What foreign policy experience did Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan or George Bush have? Why the double standard for Palin? Also, it is the president, not the vice president, who determines the foreign policy of the United States.
Funny, because I am a Republican harping about it.
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Concerned Taxpayer wrote: The Democrats keep harping about the fact that Sarah Palin does not have any foreign policy experience. Exactly what foreign policy experience would any governor have? What foreign policy experience did Bill Clinton have, other than being a draft-dodger in England? What foreign policy experience did Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan or George Bush have? Why the double standard for Palin? Also, it is the president, not the vice president, who determines the foreign policy of the United States.
That was the thing about Clinton and 1992. Bush kept running on his foreign policy experience but the big issue was the economy - Remember? - "It's the economy stupid." McCain is running into a similar problem, but his bigger problem is that Obama is much more knowledgeable of foreign policy than Clinton was in '92.
Why the double standard? - She has no friggin clue!
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outside the box wrote: okeegator wrote: outside the box wrote: I would rather have Trig president than Hussein Obama. Ayyyyeeeeee.....BOOM!
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