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Thank you - I have passed this info on and we are all watching. PLEASE be careful.. DO NOT PUT YOURSELF AT RISK, THAT IS OUR JOB... Detective Saum
keepitreel wrote:
Bill,
For what it's worth I saw something the other night you might be interested in. It was a Chevy truck white in color long bed newer stly maybe a 2000 or later regular cab two wheel drive. "This was a work style truck, very plane jane looking" pulling a lawn mower trailer that was empty. It was on se 35th terr behind everglades and was definitely 13v. This was around nine o clock. then approx fifteen min later i saw the same vehicle 441 n turn west onto 6th there at okeetantie title. Bill this vehicle was creeping the neighborhood and was definitely 13v and up to no good. driving about five mph looking. couldn't tell what the occupants were nor could I get a 28. If I see this vehicle again bet your but I will get it and let you know. This has got to stop there killin us.
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Firefly1958 wrote: Miss Kitty wrote: whats a 13v
I was thinking the same thing also a 28 ?a tag number?
If they are talking 10-28 it means .a tag #
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Miss Kitty wrote: whats a 13v
I was thinking the same thing also a 28 ?a tag number?
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 12:04 am |
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Bill,
For what it's worth I saw something the other night you might be interested in. It was a Chevy truck white in color long bed newer stly maybe a 2000 or later regular cab two wheel drive. "This was a work style truck, very plane jane looking" pulling a lawn mower trailer that was empty. It was on se 35th terr behind everglades and was definitely 13v. This was around nine o clock. then approx fifteen min later i saw the same vehicle 441 n turn west onto 6th there at okeetantie title. Bill this vehicle was creeping the neighborhood and was definitely 13v and up to no good. driving about five mph looking. couldn't tell what the occupants were nor could I get a 28. If I see this vehicle again bet your but I will get it and let you know. This has got to stop there killin us.
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Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2009 01:31 pm |
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To all residents,
You know I am constantly remind prople to lock your stuff up... We all know the thieves are out there. Yesterday two people I personally know had outbuildings burglarized. All the locks, alarms, dogs and window bars in the world won't always stop a determined thief. SO:
1. DOCUMENT: Use your digital or 35mm camera - take photos of the overall shed or garage interior and then separate photos the most expensive items, ESPECIALLY THE SERIAL NUMBERS or VIN NUMBERS. Take a video of your stuff. Always have someone ready to turn that item around so you can document the serial number. If you have to use a note pad and write it down -DO IT... Then know where that list is.
2. ALWAYS report thefts. We cannot get back what we do not know is stolen.
DOCUMENT ALL SERIAL NUMBERS
3. Insure your stuff. Make SURE your insurance company has insured what you have now - not what you had 7 years ago. Much of that stuff no longer exists. KNOW WHERE YOUR POLICY IS AND THE NUMBER TO YOUR AGENT. Mine is combined with my vehicle insurance and my monthly insurance payment.
DOCUMENT ALL SERIAL NUMBERS
4. If you rent get renter's insurance. I had it when I rented and as of 8 years ago it was relatively inexpensive.
DOCUMENT ALL SERIAL NUMBERS
I hope you all have a great day...
Detective Bill Saum
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Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2009 12:14 pm |
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Thanks for the attaboy. I will pass it on to the troops.
FYI - The Chief reads all the reports every morning from the entire day before... He is constantly over in the Squad Room and in the Detective Bureau checking on the progress of y'alls cases... He knows about them because he reads the cases...
I've worked for three Chiefs. Denny, as he wants his men and women to call him, is a great Chief, a brave man and a good friend.
Bill Saum
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opdbillsaum wrote: Mitch3 wrote: opdbillsaum wrote: Meems wrote: opdbillsaum wrote: So the public knows........ Several weeks ago the OPD went to every store in the city limits with controled beer buys... Not one clerk would sell to our purchaser...
Detective Bill Saum
I think this is wonderful but this just means that someone of legal age is purchasing alcohol for the minors in our county and if they are found or should I say when they are found they should have the book thrown at them.
There are several possibilities:
1.) As stated, legals is buying for the illegals.
2.) The clerks did not like our buyer looked too young.
3.) All those clerks were simply great people who read right through our buyer and realized the buyer was too young.
4.) The stores selling to the kids are not in the city.
What I know is that NONE SOLD TO OUR BUYER.... For that I am thankful. To the officers who worked this detail.... ATTA BOYs and GIRLs
Detective Saum
Thanks for doing this! I can't tell you how many times I have heard from young kids working at these places tell there friends "yea, come on in and I will sell you some beer".
Glad to see you guys are keeping everyone on there toes!
If any of you get a chance, call Chief Davis and let him know you are thankful.
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If Chief Davis glanced at the forum every once in a while, he would see how much your posts are appreciated, and the work that the department does. 
If your a long time poster here you will see that there is little if any complaints about the City Police, the County is a whole different matter.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 06:52 pm |
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Mitch3 wrote: opdbillsaum wrote: Meems wrote: opdbillsaum wrote: So the public knows........ Several weeks ago the OPD went to every store in the city limits with controled beer buys... Not one clerk would sell to our purchaser...
Detective Bill Saum
I think this is wonderful but this just means that someone of legal age is purchasing alcohol for the minors in our county and if they are found or should I say when they are found they should have the book thrown at them.
There are several possibilities:
1.) As stated, legals is buying for the illegals.
2.) The clerks did not like our buyer looked too young.
3.) All those clerks were simply great people who read right through our buyer and realized the buyer was too young.
4.) The stores selling to the kids are not in the city.
What I know is that NONE SOLD TO OUR BUYER.... For that I am thankful. To the officers who worked this detail.... ATTA BOYs and GIRLs
Detective Saum
Thanks for doing this! I can't tell you how many times I have heard from young kids working at these places tell there friends "yea, come on in and I will sell you some beer".
Glad to see you guys are keeping everyone on there toes!
If any of you get a chance, call Chief Davis and let him know you are thankful.
763-5521
bsaum
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Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 02:58 am |
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opdbillsaum wrote: Meems wrote: opdbillsaum wrote: So the public knows........ Several weeks ago the OPD went to every store in the city limits with controled beer buys... Not one clerk would sell to our purchaser...
Detective Bill Saum
I think this is wonderful but this just means that someone of legal age is purchasing alcohol for the minors in our county and if they are found or should I say when they are found they should have the book thrown at them.
There are several possibilities:
1.) As stated, legals is buying for the illegals.
2.) The clerks did not like our buyer looked too young.
3.) All those clerks were simply great people who read right through our buyer and realized the buyer was too young.
4.) The stores selling to the kids are not in the city.
What I know is that NONE SOLD TO OUR BUYER.... For that I am thankful. To the officers who worked this detail.... ATTA BOYs and GIRLs
Detective Saum
Thanks for doing this! I can't tell you how many times I have heard from young kids working at these places tell there friends "yea, come on in and I will sell you some beer".
Glad to see you guys are keeping everyone on there toes!
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Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 02:24 am |
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Ciphered wrote: opdbillsaum wrote:
Please please please please please
STOP LEAVING YOUR EXPENSIVE CELL PHONES, GUNS, PC's AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT COSTS A LOT IN YOUR UNLOCKED VEHICLES.
Det. Saum,
Any leads on the recent car burglaries in the SW section? I have a friend in that area who had things stolen from his car a couple of weeks ago. He lives in the county. But we saw the OPD investigating at a house on 5th Ave the next day.
Good advice to lock cars and take valuables inside.
Detective Zeigler, 763-5521, is working those cases... I am assigned to the stolen ATVs and Wave Runners. Having the information about your friend may create a lead that will help him with the case. Please call him or have you friend call him.
Detective Saum
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Meems wrote: opdbillsaum wrote: So the public knows........ Several weeks ago the OPD went to every store in the city limits with controled beer buys... Not one clerk would sell to our purchaser...
Detective Bill Saum
I think this is wonderful but this just means that someone of legal age is purchasing alcohol for the minors in our county and if they are found or should I say when they are found they should have the book thrown at them.
There are several possibilities:
1.) As stated, legals is buying for the illegals.
2.) The clerks did not like our buyer looked too young.
3.) All those clerks were simply great people who read right through our buyer and realized the buyer was too young.
4.) The stores selling to the kids are not in the city.
What I know is that NONE SOLD TO OUR BUYER.... For that I am thankful. To the officers who worked this detail.... ATTA BOYs and GIRLs
Detective Saum
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opdbillsaum wrote: Please please please please please
STOP LEAVING YOUR EXPENSIVE CELL PHONES, GUNS, PC's AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT COSTS A LOT IN YOUR UNLOCKED VEHICLES.
Det. Saum,
Any leads on the recent car burglaries in the SW section? I have a friend in that area who had things stolen from his car a couple of weeks ago. He lives in the county. But we saw the OPD investigating at a house on 5th Ave the next day.
Good advice to lock cars and take valuables inside.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2009 12:43 pm |
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opdbillsaum wrote: So the public knows........ Several weeks ago the OPD went to every store in the city limits with controled beer buys... Not one clerk would sell to our purchaser...
Detective Bill Saum
I think this is wonderful but this just means that someone of legal age is purchasing alcohol for the minors in our county and if they are found or should I say when they are found they should have the book thrown at them.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2009 04:03 am |
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If anyone has any information about recent crimes in the county call ------ 763-3117 and asked for their Detective Bureau
In the city call 763-5521 and ask for the Detective Bureau
Det Saum
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Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2009 03:46 am |
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So the public knows........ Several weeks ago the OPD went to every store in the city limits with controled beer buys... Not one clerk would sell to our purchaser...
Detective Bill Saum
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Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 12:12 am |
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Please please please please please
STOP LEAVING YOUR EXPENSIVE CELL PHONES, GUNS, PC's AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT COSTS A LOT IN YOUR UNLOCKED VEHICLES.
IT'S GOING TO MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR
If any of you have any information please call the
Police in the city at 763-5521 and tell someone.
We don't need your name. You might think about leaving your phone numbers just in case we need questions answered. Please leave a description of WHO did WHAT - WHEN they did it - HOW they did it and if you know --- WHY OR WHAT FOR (i.e. to trade for drugs)
Thanks,
Bill Saum
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To all the DADS out there...
Happy Father's Day and thanks for all you do.. Hug your Dad even if it's in your thoughts, on the phone or in person.
Bill Saum
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My Father was my hero and the reason I do what I do and have done so for 27 years. He was a WWII hero who saved an unknown amount of lives. Daddy was one of the very best shots the Army Air Corp had, so instead of allowing to get his wings on B-17 Flying Fortesses, he trained thousands to shoot correctly, saving thousands... Thanks Pop!!! You're what made us winners!!!
His name was JOE SAUM JR and he was my Dad. He died at 82 years old on June 6th 2007... I miss you and love you dearly Daddy... Tell Mom I love her too...
Bill
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Nothing since June 3rd... Everything is nice and quiet... And peaceful... Y'all watch out for each other and that's cool...
This world is too synical, too non-caring, but y'all care enuff to argue things out and make things good and safe... Be proud and go USA
Bill
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Thedesigndiva wrote: Mitch 3 wrote....
Don't know if I would have the nerve to leave my kid in jail though to teach them a lesson .
Oh yes you would !!! It's called TOUGH LOVE and sometimes some "kids" need to have the .....scared out of them.... Sometimes it's also the BEST thing a parent can do for their kids and the future......
Diva 
I think I know myself well enough to realize that I would run over there crying hysterically and get her out...........but i also know if there was a second incident, it would kill me but she would have to suffer the consequences.
I've said before, my dad is a police officer (retired now) I got in trouble twice as a teenager, once for lying about what time I got off work and did not come home till 2 in the morning. There were about six Metro Dade Police Officers parked in my front yard........scared the crap out of me, but the look on my parents face was the worst.
lol...there were allot of good times being a cops daughter also our house was pretty huge, the bedrooms were all on one side of the house and one night my boyfriend was suppose to come over, my parents knew about it, there was no sneaking any guy in at my house! Any who, the boyfriend did't show up and it got late and I got tired......so I went all the way to the other side of the house to watch tv for some reason and fell asleep. Next thing I know......I hear this loud voice......I was half asleep and running to the front door........went out and there was my dad.....not a d**n thing on but his BVD's.........and his gun! The stupid boyfriend was at my window whispering thinking I was in my room. That was pretty much the end of that boyfriend
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Mitch 3 wrote....
Don't know if I would have the nerve to leave my kid in jail though to teach them a lesson .
Oh yes you would !!! It's called TOUGH LOVE and sometimes some "kids" need to have the .....scared out of them.... Sometimes it's also the BEST thing a parent can do for their kids and the future......
Diva
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opdbillsaum wrote: CrystalC wrote: I have a question about underage drinking. Recently a party was "busted" that was FULL of underage drinkers. Time and again these kids are told to pour out their drinks and they do not get in trouble. A drink here and there underage, while illegal, i think most of us can admit to doing at that age, however a lot of these kids go out several nights a week to drink and get drunk. That is their only goal. The party I am talking about was full of people like this.
Honestly, I dont know if it was the city or the county that broke the party up, but I think this "pour it out and go home" rule is ineffective. The same people from the party were out the very next night, drinking. Isn't there some sort of collaborative effort the city, county, and county prosecutors, can do that will at least put a dent in this problem. Obviously our jail is packed already, but I have seen big cities use mobile booking vehicles and the majority of these people are released that very night. Instead of sentencing these kids to jail time, a deal can be reached with the prosecutor for community service.
I know it seems like a lot of work, however this is a HUGE problem here in Okeechobee, and I have seen it cost a LOT of lives. After a couple of these events, I would assume that these kids would think a lot more about drinking underage. It could even possibly save lives. And how exactly are these kids getting SO much alcohol?
Crystal, to make the deal for community service, the "kids" would have to be arrested and then we all take the chance that the deal you talk about is struck. It is NOT a sure thing. What else would you advise law enforcement could do ti the kids?
The kids buy from stores or have "of age" friends buy for them. We, county and city, conduct raids on stores that sell to kids - prosecution happens and the stores are still in business.
Bill Saum
Well, obviously they would have to be arrested, that is the point, they are doing something illegal. As for the "deal" I may have used the wrong term. For that type of offense, the way I understand it is that their sentence is determined by their criminal record, and age, and offense - so it really isn't something all parties would have to agree to, just the Judge and the Prosecutor, which shouldn't be too hard, since I believe the most first time offenders get are fines, suspended license, and maybe drug/alcohol classes. Obviously, if they have an extensive criminal record they deserve more.
I think it is pretty bad in this county when you tell a 15 year old that they can't drink, and they say "Why? Says who?". They know the law isn't enforced, and they use that as a justification to themselves.
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It's summer and you may be going on vacation. Call law enforcement for close patrols. Let us know.
Sheriff @ 763-3117 and Police @ 763-5521
Tell a trusted neighbor to get you newspapers and mail or temporarily cancel both.
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okee24 wrote: Why do you want to ruin some young kids life by throwing them in jail and giving them a record?? They possibly wont get a good job, or get into the military, etc...... You didn't drink when you were young???? I don't condone them drinking and driving but let them be kids let them live and learn. Older people tell me stories of how it was when they were young and it sounds a lot better than today. They knew the cops in town personally. Cops used to let you off on a lot of stuff. Now they wont let you off because they are afraid of you getting killed and them getting sued. Any more if some one gets killed there family fights for some kind of new law or something in there name. Don't get me wrong some of the laws are good but others are just ridiculous. Every one wants justice and to blame some one else???? People die every day it is life, if it is some ones time then it is there time. You can try and prevent it all you want. Not to long ago there was and example the cop told him to go home instead off arresting him (which i would have thanked the cop) and he got hit. First words it's the cops fault.
I think the difference is that there are a hell of allot of teenagers in this town who drink and drive on a regular basis.
Giving your kid a drink is illegal............does it happen? yea it does. Does it make a difference if you KNOW that you kid is not driving, is at home and has no access to leave the home.........I don't know but I do know of parents who KNOW there kids are drinking and driving.
As for that party.........the police pretty much called every single parent and discussed the situation with them. I just spoke to a mother today, who's daughter was there...her daughter was not one that was drinking, the police knew this but still called the parent. I KNOW there is stuff my child does that I don't know, and I would totally appreciate a call from the police if I EVER found out she was drinking and had access to a vehicle!
The adult of the home was arrested, even thou he did not provide any of the alcohol to any of the miners, he knew they were drinking.
Crystals point is that all the kids know not much happens to them if they are not caught behind the wheel of a car. Her point is that kids are not going to stop if nothing is really done about it. This usually leads to teenagers, when they get there license to have "one drink" at a party, and well you know what happens after a while, they get stupid and think they can drink and drive home. The more they do it, the more they think it's ok. I did it as a teenager and it's just plain stupid........but at 18 and 19 you think you know everything.
As for a teenagers record.........one offense can be explained........not a manslaughter charge or something like that............society knows that teenagers make mistakes, and you can still get into the service with ONE dui, provided time has passed and you have shown that it was a youthful mistake. I kinda think spending one night in jail just might scare the crap out of a kid. Don't know if I would have the nerve to leave my kid in jail though to teach them a lesson .
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okee24 wrote: I have a question for bill. If you get a DUI you are impaired right? Then how can they use what you say at the time you are "impaired" because that is why you are going to jail in the first place, against you? It kinda contradicts it's self don't it? Answer: The law allows it and I do not know why..... I also don't see why they write the law books in a way that you can interpret laws many different ways, it all depends on how the cop that gets you interprets it which is ridiculous. I think I know why. It's so they can take you to jail and let the attorneys fight it out while you lose your house, job, vehicle, family, etc.?.?.? If you are found not guilty I think you should get what the jail got for keeping you in there. Maybe cops would do there jobs a little better instead of taking some one to jail just cause an attitude. If that sounds a little harsh sorry but this is the way I see it. They know what there job is, hey they might get shot at now and then, they might get in fight, they might die, they deal with a lot but if they don't like it find a new job. I was told once that, they have never convicted some one that don't say anything when they get arrested? I know there are a lot of factors that can go with it but I was just curious. Question: Just how long were you a Law Enforcement Officer??? You seem to have a lot of answers about things that must be lived to know them...
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CrystalC wrote: I have a question about underage drinking. Recently a party was "busted" that was FULL of underage drinkers. Time and again these kids are told to pour out their drinks and they do not get in trouble. A drink here and there underage, while illegal, i think most of us can admit to doing at that age, however a lot of these kids go out several nights a week to drink and get drunk. That is their only goal. The party I am talking about was full of people like this.
Honestly, I dont know if it was the city or the county that broke the party up, but I think this "pour it out and go home" rule is ineffective. The same people from the party were out the very next night, drinking. Isn't there some sort of collaborative effort the city, county, and county prosecutors, can do that will at least put a dent in this problem. Obviously our jail is packed already, but I have seen big cities use mobile booking vehicles and the majority of these people are released that very night. Instead of sentencing these kids to jail time, a deal can be reached with the prosecutor for community service.
I know it seems like a lot of work, however this is a HUGE problem here in Okeechobee, and I have seen it cost a LOT of lives. After a couple of these events, I would assume that these kids would think a lot more about drinking underage. It could even possibly save lives. And how exactly are these kids getting SO much alcohol?
Crystal, to make the deal for community service, the "kids" would have to be arrested and then we all take the chance that the deal you talk about is struck. It is NOT a sure thing. What else would you advise law enforcement could do ti the kids?
The kids buy from stores or have "of age" friends buy for them. We, county and city, conduct raids on stores that sell to kids - prosecution happens and the stores are still in business.
Bill Saum
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okee24 wrote: Why do you want to ruin some young kids life by throwing them in jail and giving them a record?? They possibly wont get a good job, or get into the military, etc...... You didn't drink when you were young???? I don't condone them drinking and driving but let them be kids let them live and learn. Older people tell me stories of how it was when they were young and it sounds a lot better than today. They knew the cops in town personally. Cops used to let you off on a lot of stuff. Now they wont let you off because they are afraid of you getting killed and them getting sued. Any more if some one gets killed there family fights for some kind of new law or something in there name. Don't get me wrong some of the laws are good but others are just ridiculous. Every one wants justice and to blame some one else???? People die every day it is life, if it is some ones time then it is there time. You can try and prevent it all you want. Not to long ago there was and example the cop told him to go home instead off arresting him (which i would have thanked the cop) and he got hit. First words it's the cops fault.
A juvenile record is sealed and would not prevent them from having a good life, especially when it is for drinking underage, it is a hell of a lot better than serving a term for vehicular manslaughter or losing their own lives. How will they ever learn if there is nothing there to ever teach them? 1 night in jail vs several years, or death, seems pretty fair to me. What they are doing is ILLEGAL. Yes, we all drank when we were young, a drink here and there...but going and getting drunk every week, and then driving home is not something anybody I knew did. You talk about blaming everyone else, and yet when the possibility of these kids owning up and paying for their OWN actions, you get upset. Some people just want to be able to do what they want whenever they want, that isn't how the world works.
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Pied piper wrote: juvenile who is smoking a cig., which by the way they do because people like you make a big deal about it,
Big deal out of it? Lifelong, since your lifelong, were you also raised in a barn?
It's against the LAW for a minor to smoke, period! What I also know is next
time I see it where it happened at, I will call the law. Now there's the
Big Deal!
listen...I personally started smoking when I was 15 years old. The ONLY reason that myself and several of my friends began smoking was because it was not allowed. And the more attention that we got, the cooler we thought we were and the cooler we looked in the eyes of our naive peers.
call the cops, give the kids the attention that they crave. That'll teach em.
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| I have a question for bill. If you get a DUI you are impaired right? Then how can they use what you say at the time you are "impaired" because that is why you are going to jail in the first place, against you? It kinda contradicts it's self don't it? I also don't see why they write the law books in a way that you can interpret laws many different ways, it all depends on how the cop that gets you interprets it which is ridiculous. I think I know why. It's so they can take you to jail and let the attorneys fight it out while you lose your house, job, vehicle, family, etc.?.?.? If you are found not guilty I think you should get what the jail got for keeping you in there. Maybe cops would do there jobs a little better instead of taking some one to jail just cause an attitude. If that sounds a little harsh sorry but this is the way I see it. They know what there job is, hey they might get shot at now and then, they might get in fight, they might die, they deal with a lot but if they don't like it find a new job. I was told once that, they have never convicted some one that don't say anything when they get arrested? I know there are a lot of factors that can go with it but I was just curious.
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| Why do you want to ruin some young kids life by throwing them in jail and giving them a record?? They possibly wont get a good job, or get into the military, etc...... You didn't drink when you were young???? I don't condone them drinking and driving but let them be kids let them live and learn. Older people tell me stories of how it was when they were young and it sounds a lot better than today. They knew the cops in town personally. Cops used to let you off on a lot of stuff. Now they wont let you off because they are afraid of you getting killed and them getting sued. Any more if some one gets killed there family fights for some kind of new law or something in there name. Don't get me wrong some of the laws are good but others are just ridiculous. Every one wants justice and to blame some one else???? People die every day it is life, if it is some ones time then it is there time. You can try and prevent it all you want. Not to long ago there was and example the cop told him to go home instead off arresting him (which i would have thanked the cop) and he got hit. First words it's the cops fault.
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I have a question about underage drinking. Recently a party was "busted" that was FULL of underage drinkers. Time and again these kids are told to pour out their drinks and they do not get in trouble. A drink here and there underage, while illegal, i think most of us can admit to doing at that age, however a lot of these kids go out several nights a week to drink and get drunk. That is their only goal. The party I am talking about was full of people like this.
Honestly, I dont know if it was the city or the county that broke the party up, but I think this "pour it out and go home" rule is ineffective. The same people from the party were out the very next night, drinking. Isn't there some sort of collaborative effort the city, county, and county prosecutors, can do that will at least put a dent in this problem. Obviously our jail is packed already, but I have seen big cities use mobile booking vehicles and the majority of these people are released that very night. Instead of sentencing these kids to jail time, a deal can be reached with the prosecutor for community service.
I know it seems like a lot of work, however this is a HUGE problem here in Okeechobee, and I have seen it cost a LOT of lives. After a couple of these events, I would assume that these kids would think a lot more about drinking underage. It could even possibly save lives. And how exactly are these kids getting SO much alcohol?
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Pied piper wrote: juvenile who is smoking a cig., which by the way they do because people like you make a big deal about it,
Big deal out of it? Lifelong, since your lifelong, were you also raised in a barn?
It's against the LAW for a minor to smoke, period! What I also know is next
time I see it where it happened at, I will call the law. Now there's the
Big Deal!
Pied,
I beleive all of us realize the importance of our youth not breaking the law and most of all staying healthy. That obviously includes not smoking and never over doing anything else that would be harmful to their health (Overeating - drugs - alcohol etc.).
As a 27 year Law Enforcement Officer I appreciate all these views and the points made with them. Our Officers know and share your concerns. Most of us have children also. We will handle our part. I have no idea what that particular officer was doing or looking for the night you saw him or her.
As I said before, yours and all other's assistance is greatly appreciated. Anytime you or anyone else sees a crime PLEASE DO call Law Enforcement.
Okeechobee Sheriff is 763-3117
Okeechobee Police is 763-5521
Detective Bill Saum
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juvenile who is smoking a cig., which by the way they do because people like you make a big deal about it,
Big deal out of it? Lifelong, since your lifelong, were you also raised in a barn?
It's against the LAW for a minor to smoke, period! What I also know is next
time I see it where it happened at, I will call the law. Now there's the
Big Deal!
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Pied piper wrote: Here's one for you . Recently I took my kids to the theater. Returned to pick them up and waited in the parking lot for them to come out. While waiting, I noticed a large group of teens just hanging out, smoking and whatever else they were doing. This went on for 20 minutes and a police car drove by and did nothing to discourage them from leaving. Their is a sign out, that says, No loitering, plus they were blowing smoke like a cancer man. Next time, I think I'll take the law in my hands and go knock some cigs out of the teen mouths and tell them to take a hike if the cops haven't the nerve to do it.
If you think the cops around here don't have the nerve to confront a juvenile who is smoking a cig., which by the way they do because people like you make a big deal about it, then see what you can get away with.
TRUST ME...won't be fun.
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ANYONE WHO HAS INFORMATION ABOUT ANY CRIMES may at anytime call me at the OPD (Okeechobee Police Dept) at 863-763-5521. If I am not there I have voice mail as do all our detective. No one has to leave or give a name. I have no doubt I will have questions so please leave a cell phone or regular phone.
Please give: WHO - DID WHAT - WHERE - HOW - WHEN - HOW YOU KNOW (SAW IT HAPPEN OR TOLD BY SOMEONE) and ANY NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO TALK TO US
Our detectives are
Bettye Taylor: General crimes, evidence room, specializes in child abuse, interviews and gangs.
John JP Zeigler: General crimes, fraud, specializes in hand writing analisys and numbers crimes.
Bill Saum: General Crimes, evidence room and processing evidence, interviews, major crimes, specializes in crime scene and latent print examining.
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Mitch3 wrote: Pied piper wrote: Here's one for you . Recently I took my kids to the theater. Returned to pick them up and waited in the parking lot for them to come out. While waiting, I noticed a large group of teens just hanging out, smoking and whatever else they were doing. This went on for 20 minutes and a police car drove by and did nothing to discourage them from leaving. Their is a sign out, that says, No loitering, plus they were blowing smoke like a cancer man. Next time, I think I'll take the law in my hands and go knock some cigs out of the teen mouths and tell them to take a hike if the cops haven't the nerve to do it.
Although my daughter is older now, when we first moved here I was very concerned with the amount of kids just hanging around at the movie theatre. I did speak with the police. At the time, the police have a stronger presence when the movies are letting out, as that is when issues crop up. If you see that an issue is starting, call them, trust me they will be there in less than a minute
As for knocking the cigs out of there mouth, I think that might be assault and battery.
Allot of kids hang out there because frankly, they have no money and nothing to do, most of them are harmless. I think the police have a pretty good handle on the trouble makers and trespass them from the property.
Mitch: Thank you for your committment to your child, being observant and for calling law enforcement. Thank you for your advice to Pied and anyone who reads this. I thought it was interesting that you had noticed just how much busier the Law Enforcement has been in recent years. Complaints have tripled in the last several years.
It is sad but true that due to increasing crime watching over the children cannot be done nearly as much by the Police or Sheriff's anymore. It takes wonderful parents like you and Pied that are willing to take the time investment. Like one of my partners here at OPD used to do, drop your kids off at the movies. Then park in the parking lot and read a book while paying attention. My partner did this and her kid knew it. She would sit out by the highway soas not to imbarrass him but could see a lot of what was going on.
As for your last paragraph, thank you for the compliment. Detective Bill Saum
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Pied piper wrote: Here's one for you . Recently I took my kids to the theater. Returned to pick them up and waited in the parking lot for them to come out. While waiting, I noticed a large group of teens just hanging out, smoking and whatever else they were doing. This went on for 20 minutes and a police car drove by and did nothing to discourage them from leaving. Their is a sign out, that says, No loitering, plus they were blowing smoke like a cancer man. Next time, I think I'll take the law in my hands and go knock some cigs out of the teen mouths and tell them to take a hike if the cops haven't the nerve to do it.
Although my daughter is older now, when we first moved here I was very concerned with the amount of kids just hanging around at the movie theatre. I did speak with the police. At the time, the police have a stronger presence when the movies are letting out, as that is when issues crop up. If you see that an issue is starting, call them, trust me they will be there in less than a minute
As for knocking the cigs out of there mouth, I think that might be assault and battery.
Allot of kids hang out there because frankly, they have no money and nothing to do, most of them are harmless. I think the police have a pretty good handle on the trouble makers and trespass them from the property.
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Pied piper wrote: Here's one for you . Recently I took my kids to the theater. Returned to pick them up and waited in the parking lot for them to come out. While waiting, I noticed a large group of teens just hanging out, smoking and whatever else they were doing. This went on for 20 minutes and a police car drove by and did nothing to discourage them from leaving. Their is a sign out, that says, No loitering, plus they were blowing smoke like a cancer man. Next time, I think I'll take the law in my hands and go knock some cigs out of the teen mouths and tell them to take a hike if the cops haven't the nerve to do it.
Dear Pied, I will take it for granted and hope that you have completed your civic duty here in this blog. I am sure you called Law Enforcement that night. Likewise I am sure you have already sat in the offices of the Chiref of Police and the Okeechobee County Sheriff letting them know your observations, concerns and your abilities before writing in the blog. Thank you for your help and your unwaivering interest in our youth.
However: DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING OF ANYONE ELSES AND ESPECIALLY NO ONE. That action will only serve the end result of you getting in trouble... None of us want that... Bill Saum
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waboc wrote:
Maybe it's better to leave them alone...if the worst they are doing is smoking cigs what's the point in breaking them up? If they are all hanging out in front of the theater at least they are somewhere the police can keep an eye on them!
Pied piper wrote:
Here's one for you . Recently I took my kids to the theater. Returned to pick them up and waited in the parking lot for them to come out. While waiting, I noticed a large group of teens just hanging out, smoking and whatever else they were doing. This went on for 20 minutes and a police car drove by and did nothing to discourage them from leaving. Their is a sign out, that says, No loitering, plus they were blowing smoke like a cancer man. Next time, I think I'll take the law in my hands and go knock some cigs out of the teen mouths and tell them to take a hike if the cops haven't the nerve to do it.
UMMM...Because it's against the law for someone under the age to smoke.
You get the clue now?
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Maybe it's better to leave them alone...if the worst they are doing is smoking cigs what's the point in breaking them up? If they are all hanging out in front of the theater at least they are somewhere the police can keep an eye on them!
Pied piper wrote:
Here's one for you . Recently I took my kids to the theater. Returned to pick them up and waited in the parking lot for them to come out. While waiting, I noticed a large group of teens just hanging out, smoking and whatever else they were doing. This went on for 20 minutes and a police car drove by and did nothing to discourage them from leaving. Their is a sign out, that says, No loitering, plus they were blowing smoke like a cancer man. Next time, I think I'll take the law in my hands and go knock some cigs out of the teen mouths and tell them to take a hike if the cops haven't the nerve to do it.
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| Here's one for you . Recently I took my kids to the theater. Returned to pick them up and waited in the parking lot for them to come out. While waiting, I noticed a large group of teens just hanging out, smoking and whatever else they were doing. This went on for 20 minutes and a police car drove by and did nothing to discourage them from leaving. Their is a sign out, that says, No loitering, plus they were blowing smoke like a cancer man. Next time, I think I'll take the law in my hands and go knock some cigs out of the teen mouths and tell them to take a hike if the cops haven't the nerve to do it.
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opdbillsaum wrote: Well, we must be doing something right. No complaints, worries, concerns or chit chat.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND...
DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE BECAUSE WE WILL BE WATCHING AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FORCE US TO TAKE YOU TO JAIL.
Have a great weekend! Watch out for all of us on the roads! Thanks for all you do
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Well, we must be doing something right. No complaints, worries, concerns or chit chat.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND...
DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE BECAUSE WE WILL BE WATCHING AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FORCE US TO TAKE YOU TO JAIL.
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Yes: You may often see us Officers parked driver's window to driver's windws... We talk a lot that way... We complain to each other about the guy that took a swing at us or that complained when we went out of our way to change his flat tire... Either way, we are ready to go on calls when you need us...
Sometimes I just need help with a case and we're talking it over, reading the law books we keep in our cars and generally trying to brainstorm and find the best way to handle cases... The Florida law books in my office consist of 5 law books and 1 index book... They are approximately 2100 pages each or 12,600 pages total... All are written for lawyers not for plain talking cops... I personally have to brainstorm a lot to get things right...
Please be patient with us. We, like all of you, are works in progress... I know our Officers well and I beleive they are a bunch of incredibly brave and intelligent human beings... Go a head and complain, but PLEASE do not forget to pray for each and every one of us... We need as many angels as the good Lord is willing to provide...
That's my opinion and thanks, Bill Saum
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Here is a great idea for Okeechobee
A YMCA IN OKEECHOBEE...!!!
http://www.ymcatreasurecoast.org and click on the link to complete a short online survey.
You will be one of the first to learn of our progress in building a YMCA in Okeechobee.
If you have questions about the YMCA movement or proposed branch, please contact Brandon Tucker at 863-6970433 or John Lass at 772-286-4444
I checked out the web sight and took the survey... This could be a very good thing...
Bill Saum
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bigcat wrote: Bill, you are a great guy, for we know each other professionally. I will not disturb that. In my opinion of the county/city coming together as one sheriff's dept, I do not see how the county will "not" save money. It is not fair, but the county always seems to "win." So therefore, Paul May is the sheriff. Where does Chief Davis go from there?? Not to get off of my subject, that i haven't even talked about yet... You claimed a sheriff's deputy from wherever could not respond before one of the three City Officer's could...What does it mean when there are two Officer's hanging out next to each other??? How many times have I passed them and thought, was I speeding?? Then I was like, they weren't paying any attention, they were just shooting the bs...Good thing i don't drink...
And one more thing as a random citizen of good ole chobee..It's great to see an Officer pull over a car...Than the "Sgt." (of our O.C.P.D) gets out and "kinda" reprimands the Officer for doing his job during morning "rush hour!!" All while stopped at a red light, I watch the Officer get in his patrol and leave, and the "Sgt." takes off like a bat in hell again!!!! Oh yeah...we're just taxpaying citizens..sshhhh!!!!! wish i had a flat top like that "Sgt."...no offense Bill..i could say more..but i respect you!!
Bigcat
No offense taken - I HAVE A FULL HEAD OF HAIR AND ABSOLUTELY NO FLATTOP... Only 2 flattops here and neither is a Sergeant...
My opinion of consolidation is apparent from my past notations and really has no bearing on the subject... If it ever comes up again it will be up to the voters just like before... Thanks for your comments, Bill
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Bill, you are a great guy, for we know each other professionally. I will not disturb that. In my opinion of the county/city coming together as one sheriff's dept, I do not see how the county will "not" save money. It is not fair, but the county always seems to "win." So therefore, Paul May is the sheriff. Where does Chief Davis go from there?? Not to get off of my subject, that i haven't even talked about yet... You claimed a sheriff's deputy from wherever could not respond before one of the three City Officer's could...What does it mean when there are two Officer's hanging out next to each other??? How many times have I passed them and thought, was I speeding?? Then I was like, they weren't paying any attention, they were just shooting the bs...Good thing i don't drink...
And one more thing as a random citizen of good ole chobee..It's great to see an Officer pull over a car...Than the "Sgt." (of our O.C.P.D) gets out and "kinda" reprimands the Officer for doing his job during morning "rush hour!!" All while stopped at a red light, I watch the Officer get in his patrol and leave, and the "Sgt." takes off like a bat in hell again!!!! Oh yeah...we're just taxpaying citizens..sshhhh!!!!! wish i had a flat top like that "Sgt."...no offense Bill..i could say more..but i respect you!!
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