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Posted: Sun Nov 2nd, 2008 11:35 am |
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outside the box wrote: Pixi wrote: Meems wrote: Parents are accountable for their children until the children reach the age os 18.
Use to be when I was growing up that if a child became uncontrollable you could turn them over to the state and they would then be responsible for them. That is not longer true. No matter how hard you have tried and even if they have gone to a juvinile facility for breaking the law, when they get out you are again responsible for them. They can run away from that facility time and again and the court will give them back to you and tell you that you have to control them but don't dare touch them any police officer in town will tell you that spanking/ corporal punishment is legal in the state of Florida. You can spank your children. You shouldn't be leaving brusies and marks though. because they you will be labeled for the next 7 years, no working with children or older adults during that time. But keep your child under controll.
Your right, Pixi. When I got out of line, it was a good ol' pop on the ass. It didn't happen too often but enought to know I better be a little more slicker . I truley believe that is why the good Lord put so much padding back there.
Pixi and Outside you are correct if we as parents could give a little of what we got as kids we would have control or a little more with our own children, I can remember days of having to sit very lightly due to dad and his leather belt, or mom and the old metal flyswatter man that hurt, but as an adult you can say you have the utmost respect for them and understood why they did it
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Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 12:50 pm |
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My children knew that when I got out the old switch, that they best know to either stop what they were doing or get what was coming to them. I am a firm believer in spanking a child when they deserve it. However, I do not believe that punching a child or teaching them dis-respect is okay. If a child is brought up with love, they learn to love. A child learns what they live. To "beat" a child brings up an abuser. To raise a good child you must be a good parent. If your child lives without attention, they become innattentive. I am grateful that my children were spanked and loved at the same time. They learned how not to be gangsters and thugs. They are all working class citizens and are now raising their own children. I promised them that one day they would have their own children and that their children would do to them what they did to me. Now they know.
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Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Pixi wrote: Meems wrote: Parents are accountable for their children until the children reach the age os 18.
Use to be when I was growing up that if a child became uncontrollable you could turn them over to the state and they would then be responsible for them. That is not longer true. No matter how hard you have tried and even if they have gone to a juvinile facility for breaking the law, when they get out you are again responsible for them. They can run away from that facility time and again and the court will give them back to you and tell you that you have to control them but don't dare touch them any police officer in town will tell you that spanking/ corporal punishment is legal in the state of Florida. You can spank your children. You shouldn't be leaving brusies and marks though. because they you will be labeled for the next 7 years, no working with children or older adults during that time. But keep your child under controll.
Your right, Pixi. When I got out of line, it was a good ol' pop on the ass. It didn't happen too often but enought to know I better be a little more slicker. I truley believe that is why the good Lord put so much padding back there.
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Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 12:30 pm |
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Meems wrote: Parents are accountable for their children until the children reach the age os 18.
Use to be when I was growing up that if a child became uncontrollable you could turn them over to the state and they would then be responsible for them. That is not longer true. No matter how hard you have tried and even if they have gone to a juvinile facility for breaking the law, when they get out you are again responsible for them. They can run away from that facility time and again and the court will give them back to you and tell you that you have to control them but don't dare touch them any police officer in town will tell you that spanking/ corporal punishment is legal in the state of Florida. You can spank your children. You shouldn't be leaving brusies and marks though. because they you will be labeled for the next 7 years, no working with children or older adults during that time. But keep your child under controll.
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chobeegator
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 09:04 pm |
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There are so many things for kids to get into these days. Drugs, crimes, and even sex ranging from the ages of 10 to 17. My son has a friend that he and his girlfriend are having a baby. He is 15 and she is 14. They are "KIDS" themselves. Babies having babies.
Yes we are responsible for them until 18 years old. The only thing is that we are limited to "how" to control them. Can't tear thier butts up like we used to get. Can't lock them in the room for sneaking out. We as parents are very limited, and the true problem is that they inform our children of this. Call this number if you think your parents are abusive to you.
Kids sneak out, run away, steal, lie, and cheat. Guess what? The system says "Take care of your kid and control your kid", but you can't do anything to them that may be taken as abuse. Watch what you say to them, mental abuse. Don't beat thier butts, physical abuse. Don't put them on meds, substance abuse.
The system has really screwed parents these days. Especially the single mother's that have to do it alone and still work two jobs to feed the same children that are breaking them.
I am glad that I do not have to do it alone. I have three teenagers. Oldest is 18 now, then 14, and going on 13. I guess they will have to throw away the key on me. My daughter has been in rehab, my son in detention centers, and I have a good ole fashioned leather belt that works just fine. Granted I may use it as often as I should, but it works when I do have to use it.
I was trying to change the laws in this town/county and trying to change everything around the kids. Well that didn't get me anywhere, so if they (DCF) have a problem with me using the belt, then they (DCF) can take them home and try thier luck. But remember, when you take my kids, you are responsible until they are 18. Then when they get out of foster care, and the detention centers, and the rehab programs, when they become part of the criminal system, don't blame the parents, we were the ones trying to tear up thier butts.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:14 am |
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| I completely agree with neenaw. I was raised in a loving Christian home. And when I become a teenager, I became a terror and did all the things I wasn't suppose to do. I was also very disobidiant when I was younger. My parents couldn't control my behavior no matter how much they tried or cried. As for young children, I do agree, parents should know where they are at all times. But remember that kids do sneak out sometimes and the parents don't know it. They have many other influences in life. So even in a few of those cases it may not be completely the parents' fault. And there are a lot of single mothers these days who have to work multiple jobs. I'm sure they're kids aren't always where they expect them to be.
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 10:28 pm |
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Parents are accountable for their children until the children reach the age os 18.
Use to be when I was growing up that if a child became uncontrollable you could turn them over to the state and they would then be responsible for them. That is not longer true. No matter how hard you have tried and even if they have gone to a juvinile facility for breaking the law, when they get out you are again responsible for them. They can run away from that facility time and again and the court will give them back to you and tell you that you have to control them but don't dare touch them because they you will be labeled for the next 7 years, no working with children or older adults during that time. But keep your child under controll.
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 07:21 pm |
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With teenagers, you make a good point.
However, when we have nine and ten year olds burglarizing homes, I think the parents should be held accountable. They should know where their young children are at all times. Nine and ten year olds are not old enough to be running around with no adult supervision.
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 04:59 pm |
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| In response to individuals who always blame the parents: I too used to say the same thing. That was until my teen lost her mind and started doing everything against her teachings. She will tell you herself that she shouldn't have done the things she has and that she was taught right from wrong. You can only do the best you can, what they take out of it and live their life is their responsibility. Yes, there ARE parents that let their kids do whatever they want and actually condone that behavior, but sometimes those kids are the ones that choose to do the right thing. God gave humans the responsibility of choice. Lead your child in the right direction, but be prepared for many forks in that road.
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