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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 04:19 pm |
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okeegator wrote: Meems wrote: Ciphered wrote: okeegator wrote:In political parlance and legal-speak the phrase "fighting alongside" does not mean "working for". Honestly, I have little knowledge of this issue/controversy, but I do know that the phrase could be interpreted a number of ways.
That response reminds me so much of a famous sworn reply by a popular Democrat: "That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
The words "fighting alongside" says to me tht they are working together.
If you and I were working together to accomplish a certain goal we could easily be fighting alongside each other to accomplish a certain goal. No leagalese needed to understand the meaning.
I was comparing the phrases "fighting alongside" and "working for" - not "working together".
"Working for" imples a hierarchy of one person under the supervision or authority of another - employer and employee.
"Fighting alongside" implies individuals of equal status.
I make this point to demonstrate the importance of paying close attention to the language one uses. Sometimes it is used to tell a half-truth and sometimes it is distorted by another to tell a lie.
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okeegator
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 04:05 pm |
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Meems wrote: Ciphered wrote: okeegator wrote:In political parlance and legal-speak the phrase "fighting alongside" does not mean "working for". Honestly, I have little knowledge of this issue/controversy, but I do know that the phrase could be interpreted a number of ways.
That response reminds me so much of a famous sworn reply by a popular Democrat: "That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
The words "fighting alongside" says to me tht they are working together.
If you and I were working together to accomplish a certain goal we could easily be fighting alongside each other to accomplish a certain goal. No leagalese needed to understand the meaning.
I was comparing the phrases "fighting alongside" and "working for" - not "working together".
"Working for" imples a hierarchy of one person under the supervision or authority of another - employer and employee.
"Fighting alongside" implies individuals of equal status.
I make this point to demonstrate the importance of paying close attention to the language one uses. Sometimes it is used to tell a half-truth and sometimes it is distorted by another to tell a lie.
Last edited on Tue Oct 7th, 2008 04:08 pm by okeegator
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okeegator
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 04:03 pm |
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Ciphered wrote: okeegator wrote:In political parlance and legal-speak the phrase "fighting alongside" does not mean "working for". Honestly, I have little knowledge of this issue/controversy, but I do know that the phrase could be interpreted a number of ways.
That response reminds me so much of a famous sworn reply by a popular Democrat: "That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
My point exactly. One must be aware of the technicalities and nuances of language that allow candidates, lawyers, etc. to say something without being specific.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 02:39 pm |
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Ciphered wrote: okeegator wrote:In political parlance and legal-speak the phrase "fighting alongside" does not mean "working for". Honestly, I have little knowledge of this issue/controversy, but I do know that the phrase could be interpreted a number of ways.
That response reminds me so much of a famous sworn reply by a popular Democrat: "That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
The words "fighting alongside" says to me tht they are working together.
If you and I were working together to accomplish a certain goal we could easily be fighting alongside each other to accomplish a certain goal. No leagalese needed to understand the meaning.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 12:24 pm |
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okeegator wrote:In political parlance and legal-speak the phrase "fighting alongside" does not mean "working for". Honestly, I have little knowledge of this issue/controversy, but I do know that the phrase could be interpreted a number of ways.
That response reminds me so much of a famous sworn reply by a popular Democrat: "That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 10:41 am |
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Be careful what you wish for...
It may backfire on you.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:19 am |
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Meems wrote: Obama's own words:
"“I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career,” he [Obama] told the group last November.
http://purplepeoplevote.com/2008/09/30/more-problems-with-acorn-and-obamas-ties-to-acorn/
In political parlance and legal-speak the phrase "fighting alongside" does not mean "working for". Honestly, I have little knowledge of this issue/controversy, but I do know that the phrase could be interpreted a number of ways.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:12 am |
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.....And thats why I replied "B.S.". But you can't tell Hussein supporters anything. There source of "facts" is the final chapter.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 01:21 am |
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Obama's own words:
"“I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career,” he [Obama] told the group last November.
http://purplepeoplevote.com/2008/09/30/more-problems-with-acorn-and-obamas-ties-to-acorn/
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 12:03 am |
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outside the box wrote: B.S.
It's easier to believe the lies, isn't it? Especially since you can't find any factual information to base your opinion on.
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 11:04 pm |
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 10:19 pm |
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Barack Obama Never Organized with ACORN
Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.
In his capacity as an attorney, Barack represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law. For his work helping enforce the law, called “Motor Voter,” Barack received the IVI-IPO Legal Eagle Award in 1995.
Ken Blackwell is best known today for disenfranchising Democratic voters in his dual role as Ohio Secretary of State and chair of George Bush’s Ohio campaign in 2004. To see him shed crocodile tears for the integrity of the vote while making accusations about Barack and ACORN with absolutely no basis in fact is disturbing.
Blackwell’s attacks against ACORN and community organizers continue a vile Republican pattern of mockery and viciousness against this noble profession. Community organizers are the very individuals Republicans should be celebrating for helping people to help themselves rather than depending on the government.
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Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 12:38 am |
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Obama and Acorn sued banks to make them give mortgages to those who could not afford them.
I find it interesting that now he wants to fix what he did back in the 90's
http://dittos.typepad.com/beyond_the_headlines/2008/09/obama-acorn-and.html
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