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Don Horner
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 08:39 am |
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Because it confuses Pops with facts, and only a horrid liberal would dare do such a thing!
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 04:00 am |
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pops wrote: chobee buckeye wrote:
Here is an article that debunks this myth and various others about Obama.
Make sure you read the entire article.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
Snopes is a liberal site.
Proof?
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chobee buckeye wrote:
Here is an article that debunks this myth and various others about Obama.
Make sure you read the entire article.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
Snopes is a liberal site.
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rewsi67 wrote: you know daryl worley had a song i dont know if you know it but its called have you forgotten, cause i sure as hell have'nt 911 will be in my heart forever.
On that we can agree.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 02:24 am |
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you know daryl worley had a song i dont know if you know it but its called have you forgotten, cause i sure as hell have'nt 911 will be in my heart forever.
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rewsi67 wrote: my problem is not with color, my best friend afro-american, actuallyhe is like a long lost brother. i dont have to show any of you my preferrence in life, white or black whatever. you have already labeled me so i can deal withit. my problem is whether or not he will salute our flag and give it the respect it is due.if not someone will snipe him before his term is up or how bout when or if he makes it we just go and turn our guns and ammo in. and all drive the same cars and wear the same clothes. wait aminute that's communist not muslim. we have to wear a turbin once they dislocate my head from my shoulders.
I guess I can only feel sorry for you. Good luck in life. I hope others treat you better than you are willing to do for them.
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chobee buckeye
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 01:12 am |
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Here is an article that debunks this myth and various others about Obama.
Make sure you read the entire article.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
Last edited on Tue Oct 7th, 2008 01:13 am by chobee buckeye
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rewsi67
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my problem is not with color, my best friend afro-american, actuallyhe is like a long lost brother. i dont have to show any of you my preferrence in life, white or black whatever. you have already labeled me so i can deal withit. my problem is whether or not he will salute our flag and give it the respect it is due.if not someone will snipe him before his term is up or how bout when or if he makes it we just go and turn our guns and ammo in. and all drive the same cars and wear the same clothes. wait aminute that's communist not muslim. we have to wear a turbin once they dislocate my head from my shoulders.
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chobee buckeye
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 12:35 am |
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okeegator -
I, too, have been disgusted by the prejudiced comments and pictures I've seen on here. As a matter of fact, one poster got in "trouble" on another thread for the very same thing and had their post removed. I've learned that people with tunnel vision very rarely ever find their way out of said tunnel. And, our light shining at the end of it isn't going to show them the way.
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okeegator wrote: rewsi67 wrote: i found your problem your name says it all gator , i found a monkey online and i was referring to the point that a monkey could run for president and i was not referring to your obama but if they have resemblance in the picture so be it!!!!
Look, you can keep trying to redeem yourself and prove you are not racist, but your picture of a t-shirt with a monkey eating a banana and Obama's name underneath simply shows the racist that you are - or are now ashamed of being.
And I am floored by the fact that very few people on this forum have said anything regarding the unprincipled remarks by T-Bone and the racist pictures by rewsi67. I guess principles only go so far.
I find the remarks reprehensible, and I feel sorry for people who are consumed by hatred for their fellow man based solely on the color of his/her skin.
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rewsi67 wrote: i found your problem your name says it all gator , i found a monkey online and i was referring to the point that a monkey could run for president and i was not referring to your obama but if they have resemblance in the picture so be it!!!!
Look, you can keep trying to redeem yourself and prove you are not racist, but your picture of a t-shirt with a monkey eating a banana and Obama's name underneath simply shows the racist that you are - or are now ashamed of being.
And I am floored by the fact that very few people on this forum have said anything regarding the unprincipled remarks by T-Bone and the racist pictures by rewsi67. I guess principles only go so far.
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Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: anotheropinion wrote: The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
And you know what? Obama's right and he is proving in that quote to be a better American than any of you who disparage him for taking such a stand.
I know there are more principled people out there who may not like Obama but can appreciate what he is saying. Muslims who are American citizens should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as the rest. If the government should dare to violate the rights of innocent Muslims as the government did to the Japanese then we should be there to stand in the government's way.
Those of you who can turn your back on others who are different yet innocent are just as guilty as those Germans during WWII who did nothing as people were exterminated by the Nazis.
Your indifference and stupidity are astounding.
Beware of becoming too self-righteous.
Beware of what? Self-righteous? That's rich.
Tell me what is more self-righteous, speaking out in behalf of others or claiming to be an American and yet denying that others have the same rights based on their "otherness".
That's real interesting CT. I don't see you agreeing/disagreeing. Are you willing to take a principled stand or not?
I have not advocated denying anyone their rights, just my unconditional trust.
Who is offering unconditional trust? One must be vigilant against outside threats while at the same time taking care not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater".
So do you agree or disagree with Obama's statement that we should be on the side of those who are the innocent victims of our government's tyranny?
If America ever succumbs to a foreign influence, I believe it will come through internal subversion, e.g., as expressed in the statement, "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you." Islamic re-conquest and expansion is being accomplished through Islamic immigration and the building of mosques and cultural centers in Christian countries. One need only consider what has already occurred throughout Europe to see this reality. We can clearly see it in the United States. If you continue to foolishly think that Muslims are as harmless as Baptists, will you look good wearing a Burkha?
I am in agreement with opposing government oppression and tyranny.
Again, your post shows what little you know about Islam. Islamic fundamentalists are interested in re-conquering the lands that once constituted the furthest reaches of the Islamic empire under the caliphate. They wish to re-establish the caliphate so that all of these former Muslims lands can be ruled under sharia law. It is an extremist view much like the one held by the Nazis as I mentioned earlier.
Millions of moderate Muslims in the U.S. and many more around the world have no interest in such a world because they appreciate the freedoms they enjoy here. In fact, for many years after WWII the Islamic countries in the world were largely populated by moderate Muslims who looked to the west for inspiration. It was not until the Iranian Revolution and the rise of Sunni extremists that fundamentalism seized the spotlight in the Muslim world.
For instance, did you know that the people of Iran largely ignore their government's hatred of the U.S.? That if Iran could rid itself of the ayatollahs the U.S. would find the Iranian people to be very receptive to being our friend in the region?
Why don't you do out and talk to some Muslims and find this out for yourself? I am sure there is a mosque nearby where you can speak with them about your concerns. I bet you will find that the vast majority of them here in the U.S. are peace-loving people who may not like some of the policies of the government but who are also no different from anyone else.
If you can apply your last line to the rights and freedoms of Muslim citizens in this country then I will not consider you a hypocrite.
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Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 12:05 am |
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i found your problem your name says it all gator , i found a monkey online and i was referring to the point that a monkey could run for president and i was not referring to your obama but if they have resemblance in the picture so be it!!!!
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Bilgerat wrote: okeegator wrote: T-BONE wrote: I WOULD STAND FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
Including Arab or Pakistani-Americans who happen to be Muslim?
I've always been "interested" as to why the "other" nationality is listed before American.
I agree with one of America's greatest celebrities, John Wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOIg1Wy9Zo
And by the way, I am first Generation American, both of my parents came from another Country 
And I own no hyphen
I know what you mean but I was merely recalling Obama's book quote.
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okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: anotheropinion wrote: The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
And you know what? Obama's right and he is proving in that quote to be a better American than any of you who disparage him for taking such a stand.
I know there are more principled people out there who may not like Obama but can appreciate what he is saying. Muslims who are American citizens should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as the rest. If the government should dare to violate the rights of innocent Muslims as the government did to the Japanese then we should be there to stand in the government's way.
Those of you who can turn your back on others who are different yet innocent are just as guilty as those Germans during WWII who did nothing as people were exterminated by the Nazis.
Your indifference and stupidity are astounding.
Beware of becoming too self-righteous.
Beware of what? Self-righteous? That's rich.
Tell me what is more self-righteous, speaking out in behalf of others or claiming to be an American and yet denying that others have the same rights based on their "otherness".
That's real interesting CT. I don't see you agreeing/disagreeing. Are you willing to take a principled stand or not?
I have not advocated denying anyone their rights, just my unconditional trust.
Who is offering unconditional trust? One must be vigilant against outside threats while at the same time taking care not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater".
So do you agree or disagree with Obama's statement that we should be on the side of those who are the innocent victims of our government's tyranny?
If America ever succumbs to a foreign influence, I believe it will come through internal subversion, e.g., as expressed in the statement, "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you." Islamic re-conquest and expansion is being accomplished through Islamic immigration and the building of mosques and cultural centers in Christian countries. One need only consider what has already occurred throughout Europe to see this reality. We can clearly see it in the United States. If you continue to foolishly think that Muslims are as harmless as Baptists, will you look good wearing a Burkha?
I am in agreement with opposing government oppression and tyranny.
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okeegator wrote: T-BONE wrote: I WOULD STAND FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
Including Arab or Pakistani-Americans who happen to be Muslim?
I've always been "interested" as to why the "other" nationality is listed before American.
I agree with one of America's greatest celebrities, John Wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOIg1Wy9Zo
And by the way, I am first Generation American, both of my parents came from another Country
And I own no hyphen
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okeegator wrote: T-BONE wrote: I WOULD STAND FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
Including Arab or Pakistani-Americans who happen to be Muslim?
You are so wise, Okeegator.
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T-BONE wrote: I WOULD STAND FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
Including Arab or Pakistani-Americans who happen to be Muslim?
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 10:03 pm |
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T-BONE wrote: So do you agree or disagree with Obama's statement that we should be on the side of those who are the innocent victims of our government's tyranny?
All he had to say was, "I will stand with the American People should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
He did not, he will stand with the Muslims.......
Actually he says Arab and Pakistani-Americans. But that still begs the question...
so what?
He writes about standing up to the government in defense of fellow citizens who are victimized by it. So do you agree or disagree with Obama's statement that we should be on the side of those who are the innocent victims of our government's tyranny?
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So do you agree or disagree with Obama's statement that we should be on the side of those who are the innocent victims of our government's tyranny?
All he had to say was, "I will stand with the American People should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
He did not, he will stand with the Muslims.......
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Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: anotheropinion wrote: The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
And you know what? Obama's right and he is proving in that quote to be a better American than any of you who disparage him for taking such a stand.
I know there are more principled people out there who may not like Obama but can appreciate what he is saying. Muslims who are American citizens should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as the rest. If the government should dare to violate the rights of innocent Muslims as the government did to the Japanese then we should be there to stand in the government's way.
Those of you who can turn your back on others who are different yet innocent are just as guilty as those Germans during WWII who did nothing as people were exterminated by the Nazis.
Your indifference and stupidity are astounding.
Beware of becoming too self-righteous.
Beware of what? Self-righteous? That's rich.
Tell me what is more self-righteous, speaking out in behalf of others or claiming to be an American and yet denying that others have the same rights based on their "otherness".
That's real interesting CT. I don't see you agreeing/disagreeing. Are you willing to take a principled stand or not?
I have not advocated denying anyone their rights, just my unconditional trust.
Who is offering unconditional trust? One must be vigilant against outside threats while at the same time taking care not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater".
So do you agree or disagree with Obama's statement that we should be on the side of those who are the innocent victims of our government's tyranny?
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okeegator wrote: Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: anotheropinion wrote: The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
And you know what? Obama's right and he is proving in that quote to be a better American than any of you who disparage him for taking such a stand.
I know there are more principled people out there who may not like Obama but can appreciate what he is saying. Muslims who are American citizens should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as the rest. If the government should dare to violate the rights of innocent Muslims as the government did to the Japanese then we should be there to stand in the government's way.
Those of you who can turn your back on others who are different yet innocent are just as guilty as those Germans during WWII who did nothing as people were exterminated by the Nazis.
Your indifference and stupidity are astounding.
Beware of becoming too self-righteous.
Beware of what? Self-righteous? That's rich.
Tell me what is more self-righteous, speaking out in behalf of others or claiming to be an American and yet denying that others have the same rights based on their "otherness".
That's real interesting CT. I don't see you agreeing/disagreeing. Are you willing to take a principled stand or not?
I have not advocated denying anyone their rights, just my unconditional trust.Last edited on Mon Oct 6th, 2008 07:37 pm by Concerned Taxpayer
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Concerned Taxpayer wrote: okeegator wrote: anotheropinion wrote: The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
And you know what? Obama's right and he is proving in that quote to be a better American than any of you who disparage him for taking such a stand.
I know there are more principled people out there who may not like Obama but can appreciate what he is saying. Muslims who are American citizens should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as the rest. If the government should dare to violate the rights of innocent Muslims as the government did to the Japanese then we should be there to stand in the government's way.
Those of you who can turn your back on others who are different yet innocent are just as guilty as those Germans during WWII who did nothing as people were exterminated by the Nazis.
Your indifference and stupidity are astounding.
Beware of becoming too self-righteous.
Beware of what? Self-righteous? That's rich.
Tell me what is more self-righteous, speaking out in behalf of others or claiming to be an American and yet denying that others have the same rights based on their "otherness".
That's real interesting CT. I don't see you agreeing/disagreeing. Are you willing to take a principled stand or not?
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okeegator wrote: anotheropinion wrote: The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
And you know what? Obama's right and he is proving in that quote to be a better American than any of you who disparage him for taking such a stand.
I know there are more principled people out there who may not like Obama but can appreciate what he is saying. Muslims who are American citizens should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as the rest. If the government should dare to violate the rights of innocent Muslims as the government did to the Japanese then we should be there to stand in the government's way.
Those of you who can turn your back on others who are different yet innocent are just as guilty as those Germans during WWII who did nothing as people were exterminated by the Nazis.
Your indifference and stupidity are astounding.
Beware of becoming too self-righteous.
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anotheropinion wrote: The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
Here is the correct FULL quote:
Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261]
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
And you know what? Obama's right and he is proving in that quote to be a better American than any of you who disparage him for taking such a stand.
I know there are more principled people out there who may not like Obama but can appreciate what he is saying. Muslims who are American citizens should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as the rest. If the government should dare to violate the rights of innocent Muslims as the government did to the Japanese then we should be there to stand in the government's way.
Those of you who can turn your back on others who are different yet innocent are just as guilty as those Germans during WWII who did nothing as people were exterminated by the Nazis.
Your indifference and stupidity are astounding.
Last edited on Mon Oct 6th, 2008 06:23 pm by okeegator
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The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
Here is the correct FULL quote:
Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261]
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
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The Democrat wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
Here is the correct FULL quote:
Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261]
You showing us the page of his book doesnt change a word he said.. he still said it
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T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
What you are misquoting is from Obama's book Dreams from my Father.
Here is the correct FULL quote:
Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261]
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okeegator wrote: rewsi67 wrote: well morons like me is what built America you know the land of the free, i have worked hard everyday since i was 16 and never asked anything from anyone. i raised a family of 4 on a single income. it hardened my heart when i went to the store and could'nt afford ribeyes when those with food stamps had carts full (all races are on food stamps ) when they could have got off their fat a@# and worked. so society has made me what I am. my wife was involved in an accident 5 yrs ago and cant work because some dips**t ran a red light and slammed into her breaking her neck. she has tried to get ssi and disabilty but has been refused. since then i had to close my business and sell all my toys boat and seadoo. recently just short saled my house so if you think by you bigots and as#holes calling me a racist hurts you cant do nothing else to me except run your mouth, that is all you can do, most of you are computer geeks and lard aS#es. i still work hard everyday and still try to support my family.
So how does any of that excuse your posting of pictures of Obama as a monkey?
I see that despite your pride you still want to play the victim.
Well put, Okeegator.
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rewsi67 wrote: well morons like me is what built America you know the land of the free, i have worked hard everyday since i was 16 and never asked anything from anyone. i raised a family of 4 on a single income. it hardened my heart when i went to the store and could'nt afford ribeyes when those with food stamps had carts full (all races are on food stamps ) when they could have got off their fat a@# and worked. so society has made me what I am. my wife was involved in an accident 5 yrs ago and cant work because some dips**t ran a red light and slammed into her breaking her neck. she has tried to get ssi and disabilty but has been refused. since then i had to close my business and sell all my toys boat and seadoo. recently just short saled my house so if you think by you bigots and as#holes calling me a racist hurts you cant do nothing else to me except run your mouth, that is all you can do, most of you are computer geeks and lard aS#es. i still work hard everyday and still try to support my family.
So how does any of that excuse your posting of pictures of Obama as a monkey?
I see that despite your pride you still want to play the victim.
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well morons like me is what built America you know the land of the free, i have worked hard everyday since i was 16 and never asked anything from anyone. i raised a family of 4 on a single income. it hardened my heart when i went to the store and could'nt afford ribeyes when those with food stamps had carts full (all races are on food stamps ) when they could have got off their fat a@# and worked. so society has made me what I am. my wife was involved in an accident 5 yrs ago and cant work because some dips**t ran a red light and slammed into her breaking her neck. she has tried to get ssi and disabilty but has been refused. since then i had to close my business and sell all my toys boat and seadoo. recently just short saled my house so if you think by you bigots and as#holes calling me a racist hurts you cant do nothing else to me except run your mouth, that is all you can do, most of you are computer geeks and lard aS#es. i still work hard everyday and still try to support my family.
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okeegator wrote: rewsi67 wrote: HOW COME EVERYTIME SOMEONE MAKES A COMMENT HERE THEY ARE A RACIST
THAT IS CRAZY. I think your choice of pictures proves the point. I always love it when morons like you do something racist like that and then claim that you are the victim. NUMBER ONE MY SIDE FREED THE BLACKS, YANKEES THE SOUTH KEPT THEM IN SLAVERY. Which one is that? AND IF YOU ARE NOT A RACIST YOURSELF YOU'RE A LIAR. No on both counts\ I think this is an unfair statement. Racist is one thing. Prejudice is a whole other issue. Now, if you said "If your not prejudice, you're a liar". I don't believe there is no one that don't have prejudice. It don't have to be about black and white. Racist is nothing but hate. Prejudice is having an unfavorable opinion about certain things or cultures ect. LET ME SEE YOU IN IRAQ RUNNING FROM BULLETS AND KNOW THEY HATE YOU. SO WHY CANT YOU HATE THEM BACK. AND I WOULD PLACE A BET IF OBAMA GETS IT HE WONT MAKE HIS TERM. AND IF THAT HAPPENS YOU BETTER HOPE IT WAS NOT A WHITE MAN THAT DID IT OR THAT IS GOING TO GIVE THE BLACKS SOMETHING ELSE TO RIOT ABOUT BUT IT WILL BE NATIONWIDE MARK MY WORD. BETTER STOCK UP ON BULLETS FOR YOUR GUNS .
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rewsi67 wrote: HOW COME EVERYTIME SOMEONE MAKES A COMMENT HERE THEY ARE A RACIST
THAT IS CRAZY. I think your choice of pictures proves the point. I always love it when morons like you do something racist like that and then claim that you are the victim. NUMBER ONE MY SIDE FREED THE BLACKS, YANKEES THE SOUTH KEPT THEM IN SLAVERY. Which one is that? AND IF YOU ARE NOT A RACIST YOURSELF YOU'RE A LIAR. No on both counts LET ME SEE YOU IN IRAQ RUNNING FROM BULLETS AND KNOW THEY HATE YOU. SO WHY CANT YOU HATE THEM BACK. AND I WOULD PLACE A BET IF OBAMA GETS IT HE WONT MAKE HIS TERM. AND IF THAT HAPPENS YOU BETTER HOPE IT WAS NOT A WHITE MAN THAT DID IT OR THAT IS GOING TO GIVE THE BLACKS SOMETHING ELSE TO RIOT ABOUT BUT IT WILL BE NATIONWIDE MARK MY WORD. BETTER STOCK UP ON BULLETS FOR YOUR GUNS .
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T-BONE wrote: All that demonstrates is that the man is principled with it comes to the rights and freedom of others in the U.S.
Okeegator ---- Sounds like you already have your blanket and know Mecca's direction.
T-Bone, with a statement like that I think you demonstrate your lack of principles.
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HOW COME EVERYTIME SOMEONE MAKES A COMMENT HERE THEY ARE A RACIST
THAT IS CRAZY. NUMBER ONE MY SIDE FREED THE BLACKS, YANKEES THE SOUTH KEPT THEM IN SLAVERY. AND IF YOU ARE NOT A RACIST YOURSELF YOU'RE A LIAR. LET ME SEE YOU IN IRAQ RUNNING FROM BULLETS AND KNOW THEY HATE YOU. SO WHY CANT YOU HATE THEM BACK. AND I WOULD PLACE A BET IF OBAMA GETS IT HE WONT MAKE HIS TERM. AND IF THAT HAPPENS YOU BETTER HOPE IT WAS NOT A WHITE MAN THAT DID IT OR THAT IS GOING TO GIVE THE BLACKS SOMETHING ELSE TO RIOT ABOUT BUT IT WILL BE NATIONWIDE MARK MY WORD. BETTER STOCK UP ON BULLETS FOR YOUR GUNS .
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All that demonstrates is that the man is principled with it comes to the rights and freedom of others in the U.S.
Okeegator ---- Sounds like you already have your blanket and know Mecca's direction.
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outside the box wrote: okeegator wrote: outside the box wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
I copied/pasted this on another blog but there is too much so here is the site. Read for yourself Obama supporters. http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaIslam.htm
This is not a slam at him. I think he speaks well. I love his charisma.
One thing is for sure. HE is WISHY WASHY JUST LIKE EVERY POLITICIAN IN HISTORY. HE'S GOT TOO MANY TIES TO ISLAM AND RACIST RADICAL GROUPS.
Being wishy washy is scary enough without adding hate groups to his ticket.
There is no doubt that blacks have been a victim of racism for many years. More so before teenage and adult life.
My family did not raise me to be racist.
Its NOT going to be my turn to be in the victim's box. I had nothing to do with slavery or oppresion nor did my ancestors. That is a fact.
Yeah, I get real pissed off when I get call a Cracker Mother F#@&*# just because the color of my skin.
I am not going to put someone in power who is backed by these racist groups for them to get away with turing my race into a victim.
That is just how I see it from outside the box.
I don't understand to whom you are responding. Its not directed to anyone in particular. It is just my PRE COFFEE morning ranting about Hussein Obama
Just making sure since I was calling out rewsi67.
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flsr wrote: Fred Thompson, who has been in the senate for a long time also, said that Biden mischaracterized McCains position on several counts. He said that he had been there and heard McCains statements. Karl Rove, whose mental catalog of facts and figures is amazing, says that many of Biden' statements were flat out wrong, and quoted Biden, then gave the correct account. I had a feeling during the debate that Biden was winning it, but when you can smoothly lie and your listeners do not know the difference, as I didn't, you can win over a lot of people. Obama and Biden are good at this. Pie in the sky is what the Democrats are grasping at. I don't mean Biden was winning me, only that it appeared he was winning the debate.
When the Democrats say McCain is out of touch, they must be thinking he has been unaware of their crooked activities. Contrary to what the Dems say McCain has been urging oversight of Fannie and Freddie. Now that the crash has occured all of a sudden they want oversight. Obama's association with ACORN, through his community organizing, along with legal representation of it, had people going to the bank presidents and putting the pressure on them to make loans to people who in no way could afford them. This person, Obama, who supposedly wants to get us beyond racism, was using the race card because many of the low income folks he wanted to get into the housing were black and of course the bankers were afraid of discrimination lawsuits. Thats just it. He is a typical politician and he has the race card to play. People are tired of the race card. If you have a valued argument then so be it, but when the going gets tough, "You are just oppressing the black man" bull crap comes a flyin'. Anybody can check these facts about Obama's associations and who the money was coming from toward him and his Chicago cronies.
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okeegator wrote: outside the box wrote: T-BONE wrote: From Obama's book, " Audacity of Hope" QUOTE:
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
I copied/pasted this on another blog but there is too much so here is the site. Read for yourself Obama supporters. http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaIslam.htm
This is not a slam at him. I think he speaks well. I love his charisma.
One thing is for sure. HE is WISHY WASHY JUST LIKE EVERY POLITICIAN IN HISTORY. HE'S GOT TOO MANY TIES TO ISLAM AND RACIST RADICAL GROUPS.
Being wishy washy is scary enough without adding hate groups to his ticket.
There is no doubt that blacks have been a victim of racism for many years. More so before teenage and adult life.
My family did not raise me to be racist.
Its NOT going to be my turn to be in the victim's box. I had nothing to do with slavery or oppresion nor did my ancestors. That is a fact.
Yeah, I get real pissed off when I get call a Cracker Mother F#@&*# just because the color of my skin.
I am not going to put someone in power who is backed by these racist groups for them to get away with turing my race into a victim.
That is just how I see it from outside the box.
I don't understand to whom you are responding. Its not directed to anyone in particular. It is just my PRE COFFEE morning ranting about Hussein Obama
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Fred Thompson, who has been in the senate for a long time also, said that Biden mischaracterized McCains position on several counts. He said that he had been there and heard McCains statements. Karl Rove, whose mental catalog of facts and figures is amazing, says that many of Biden' statements were flat out wrong, and quoted Biden, then gave the correct account. I had a feeling during the debate that Biden was winning it, but when you can smoothly lie and your listeners do not know the difference, as I didn't, you can win over a lot of people. Obama and Biden are good at this. Pie in the sky is what the Democrats are grasping at. I don't mean Biden was winning me, only that it appeared he was winning the debate.
When the Democrats say McCain is out of touch, they must be thinking he has been unaware of their crooked activities. Contrary to what the Dems say McCain has been urging oversight of Fannie and Freddie. Now that the crash has occured all of a sudden they want oversight. Obama's association with ACORN, through his community organizing, along with legal representation of it, had people going to the bank presidents and putting the pressure on them to make loans to people who in no way could afford them. This person, Obama, who supposedly wants to get us beyond racism, was using the race card because many of |