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lobster
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 Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 12:22 am
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once you guys got things so screwed up and owing so much money that the next 4 ''generations will be paying you will be saying  O SH"" WHA HAPPENED

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 03:14 pm
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And that attitude is why the Consevative are in the mess they are in. They don't care what the country thinks.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 11:00 pm
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i don't care what the rest of the country thinks,  i only worry about what i think, thats what is important to me, you can believe what you want, if you agree or disagree i don't give a flip

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 09:25 pm
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Thats what I'm saying so you can not expect the whole country to rise up over the things you listed. Like they did for WWII.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 07:18 pm
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what is everything on here, it is all opinion, you know what they say about opinions, and most of them stink

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 03:53 pm
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lobster wrote: look what is happening with our way of life now, you see anybody doing anything, they think its alright. when you start paying 1.000.00 amonth for elec and you have some politician deciding whether you live or die and have the government controlling everything you do from birth to death, the people in existence now are not the same as they were in the first or second war, we just think if we apoligize for our past action and bow to there royalty and shake hands with dictators everything will be ok and we can keep our heads in the sand.
So much for keeping it nonpolitical.... :shock: All these thing you have mentioned are no where near the threat of a WWII. Matter of fact they are matters of opinion not shared by all.

Last edited on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:03 pm by 4string

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 03:43 pm
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look what is happening with our way of life now, you see anybody doing anything, they think its alright. when you start paying 1.000.00 amonth for elec and you have some politician deciding whether you live or die and have the government controlling everything you do from birth to death, the people in existence now are not the same as they were in the first or second war, we just think if we apoligize for our past action and bow to there royalty and shake hands with dictators everything will be ok and we can keep our heads in the sand.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 02:55 pm
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http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/signers/index.htm

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 02:49 pm
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I disagree I believe if America was truly threatened you would be surprised at the sacrifice some would be willing to make to keep our way of life intact. Much sacrifice was made during many of the wars since our independence. Japan made the mistake of waking the sleeping giant in 1941. That is one of the great things about this country its peoples resolve when faced with a challenge. Their ability to pull together.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 11:26 am
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Thanks for posting that, Dawg. I've read it before, but it is the most appropriate time to be reminded of what our forefathers created and gave for us. Other than for our soldiers, it would be hard to find anyone nowadays to give that much for our America.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 02:43 am
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. . . what happened to the 56 men
who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors,
and tortured before they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.
Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army;
another had two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or
hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes,
and their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.
Eleven were merchants,
nine were farmers and large plantation owners;
men of means, well educated,
but they signed the Declaration of Independence
knowing full well that the penalty would be death if
they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and
trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the
British Navy. He sold his home and properties to
pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British
that he was forced to move his family almost constantly.
He served in the Congress without pay, and his family
was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him,
and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that
the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson
home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General
George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed,
and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed.
The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying.
Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill
were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests
and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his
children vanished.
So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and
silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.

Remember: freedom is never free!

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