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Can we call a truse. ? nothing we say makes a hen's tooth difference right now.
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When you choose the life of fame and fortune, you lose any of the privacy that anonymity has to offer. You'll constantly be in the limelight, whether good or bad your life will always be under the microscope. Some can handle it some can't, it's the price you have to pay to be in the spotlight.
In MJ's case some of the things he said in his interviews with the public, just did not add up and a normal person would not do some of the things he stated with children. To me what he did by allowing children in his bed, is not acceptable.
I mean if your a thief, you steal, if your a killer, you kill and if your a child molester, you allow children in your bed. All of these are signs that a person is not mentally stable although they seem to live a productive life. The warning signs are there, if up to each individual to comprehend them as they wish.
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dawg i can't believe you even respond to these people, they drink the pc koolaid and can't understand why other people don't. call a spade a spade. if it looks like a duck,quacks like a duck,it must be a duck
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First of all DAWG, you do have the right to your opinion, it's just that you have a lousy way of expressing yours,Why just because I am straight forward and say what I mean, why pussy foot around the bush about it. you have a chip on your shoulder, No I don't, I know it's hard raising a child alone, I raised two, but that doesn't and didn't make me bitter and have an attitude like you do. I am not bitter or have a bad attitude I thoroughly enjoy raising my daughter she is the BEST thing that ever happend to me. Again, Everyone does deserve respect. No they don't And YES, money does talk, but you don't have proof that either OJ or MJ paid anyone off.No I don't Also, I sure hope you don't believe all that's been on TV about this issue. If so, you have to be kidding, the media embellishes on any subject, especially one that involves someone so famous. I formed my opinion of him along long time ago dont need no tv to tell me what to think
Sure, I'll come look in your closet, where do you live?
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First of all DAWG, you do have the right to your opinion, it's just that you have a lousy way of expressing yours, you have a chip on your shoulder, I know it's hard raising a child alone, I raised two, but that doesn't and didn't make me bitter and have an attitude like you do. Again, Everyone does deserve respect. And YES, money does talk, but you don't have proof that either OJ or MJ paid anyone off. Also, I sure hope you don't believe all that's been on TV about this issue. If so, you have to be kidding, the media embellishes on any subject, especially one that involves someone so famous.
Sure, I'll come look in your closet, where do you live?
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missk wrote: Hi from MissK here: To southern Dawg: Your name says it all about what type of person you are: Everyone deserves respect, No they don't especially someone who was found NOT GUILTY of child molestation.OJ was found not guilty of murder too just because they were found not not guilty doesn't mean they didn't do it money talks Did you not hear about that? Based on your attitude, I'm sure you have some secrets hiding in that closet of yours. Many do, those who yell loudest are usually those who have more in their closet to hide than others. No secrets in my closets would you care to look? Everyone , just listen to some of MJ's music, he had a good heart and his music tells what kind of person he was. Listen to the lyrics of his serious songs. Never cared for his style His music sucked Southern Dawg, if you don't care how many or who attends your funeral when you die, then that already tells me you give two sh--ts about how you live your life and that's sad.You have no clue about what you are talking about I Have my opinions on things I feel strongly about. If you dont like it too bad Personally I am getting sick and tired of hearing about the child molesting FREAK!!!!! Just bury his sleazy ass and forget about it already.
Dawg
You know, it doen't matter who dies, there is a thing called "Respect", obviously something that you have never heard of. you can have your opinions, but you cross the line. He dosen't deserve respect, Now what line did I cross?
Just how many people do you think will be at your funeral when you die? And.....How many are out there that just can't wait to bury your sleazy ass? And forget about you.... Don't know and don't care. I am sure there are a few Like I said I don't care! Why would I worry about it I will be dead and wont know anyways kinda like a moot point isn't it.
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Thedesigndiva wrote: TheGonzoJournalist wrote: Hi from MissK here: To southern Dawg: Your name says it all about what type of person you are: Everyone deserves respect, No they don't especially someone who was found NOT GUILTY of child molestation.OJ was found not guilty of murder too just because they were found not not guilty doesn't mean they didn't do it money talks Did you not hear about that? Based on your attitude, I'm sure you have some secrets hiding in that closet of yours. Many do, those who yell loudest are usually those who have more in their closet to hide than others. No secrets in my closets would you care to look? Everyone , just listen to some of MJ's music, he had a good heart and his music tells what kind of person he was. Listen to the lyrics of his serious songs. Never cared for his style His music sucked Southern Dawg, if you don't care how many or who attends your funeral when you die, then that already tells me you give two sh--ts about how you live your life and that's sad.You have no clue about what you are talking about I Have my opinions on things I feel strongly about and try to live my life the best I can. I have too I have a soon to be 9 yr old daughter that I have been raising by myself since she was 2 weeks old so I pretty much got to keep my nose clean and try do the right things to the best of my ability. I have a lot of opinions I will voice them and dont give a ratsass who dont like them or are offended by them Thats my 1st Admendment Right. So if you dont like what I say I DONT CARE!!!!
You know, I just can't take Dawg seriously. It's like watching one of those zealots out there on the streets preaching about Xenu, coming from a planet far away to save us all, only this one is talking about the First Amendment and shouting "ratsass" (one word, mind you, not two) at the top of his lungs. "Michael Jackson sucks! His music sucks! You suck! Ratsass, ratsass, ratsass!" Of course, this is all done with a distinctively southern accent.
Dawg, it isn't that I don't like what you say--in fact, I think it's pretty funny to see "I have a soon to be 9 yr old daughter that I have been raising by myself since she was 2 weeks old so I pretty much got to keep my nose clean and try do the right things to the best of my ability," like that should make a difference between doing the right and wrong things--but I think you just need to chill out. Nobody takes those street corner Nazi's with any amount of seriousness. I don't, at least. So chill.
The Gonzo Journalist
And thank God we all live in a Country where WE ALL are FREE to express our opinions, whether someone likes them or not !!!
I also applaud Dawg for raising a child by himself and so what if he doesn't express himself the 'correct" way... I get the gist of what he is trying to say.....
So speak on Dawg and say what you feel...Keeping it all bottled up inside can and will cause an early demise to ones frame of mind...
JMHO as always
Diva 
I agree, don't get me wrong, I'm an advocate of Freedom of Speech and the exercising of personal rights, I just think it's funny the way it's executed. I think it's mostly the big blue font and abundance of exclamation points. I just can't take it with any amount of seriousness. Dawg is just too . . . silly, I guess.
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TheGonzoJournalist wrote: Hi from MissK here: To southern Dawg: Your name says it all about what type of person you are: Everyone deserves respect, No they don't especially someone who was found NOT GUILTY of child molestation.OJ was found not guilty of murder too just because they were found not not guilty doesn't mean they didn't do it money talks Did you not hear about that? Based on your attitude, I'm sure you have some secrets hiding in that closet of yours. Many do, those who yell loudest are usually those who have more in their closet to hide than others. No secrets in my closets would you care to look? Everyone , just listen to some of MJ's music, he had a good heart and his music tells what kind of person he was. Listen to the lyrics of his serious songs. Never cared for his style His music sucked Southern Dawg, if you don't care how many or who attends your funeral when you die, then that already tells me you give two sh--ts about how you live your life and that's sad.You have no clue about what you are talking about I Have my opinions on things I feel strongly about and try to live my life the best I can. I have too I have a soon to be 9 yr old daughter that I have been raising by myself since she was 2 weeks old so I pretty much got to keep my nose clean and try do the right things to the best of my ability. I have a lot of opinions I will voice them and dont give a ratsass who dont like them or are offended by them Thats my 1st Admendment Right. So if you dont like what I say I DONT CARE!!!!
You know, I just can't take Dawg seriously. It's like watching one of those zealots out there on the streets preaching about Xenu, coming from a planet far away to save us all, only this one is talking about the First Amendment and shouting "ratsass" (one word, mind you, not two) at the top of his lungs. "Michael Jackson sucks! His music sucks! You suck! Ratsass, ratsass, ratsass!" Of course, this is all done with a distinctively southern accent.
Dawg, it isn't that I don't like what you say--in fact, I think it's pretty funny to see "I have a soon to be 9 yr old daughter that I have been raising by myself since she was 2 weeks old so I pretty much got to keep my nose clean and try do the right things to the best of my ability," like that should make a difference between doing the right and wrong things--but I think you just need to chill out. Nobody takes those street corner Nazi's with any amount of seriousness. I don't, at least. So chill.
The Gonzo Journalist
And thank God we all live in a Country where WE ALL are FREE to express our opinions, whether someone likes them or not !!!
I also applaud Dawg for raising a child by himself and so what if he doesn't express himself the 'correct" way... I get the gist of what he is trying to say.....
So speak on Dawg and say what you feel...Keeping it all bottled up inside can and will cause an early demise to ones frame of mind...
JMHO as always
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Hi from MissK here: To southern Dawg: Your name says it all about what type of person you are: Everyone deserves respect, No they don't especially someone who was found NOT GUILTY of child molestation.OJ was found not guilty of murder too just because they were found not not guilty doesn't mean they didn't do it money talks Did you not hear about that? Based on your attitude, I'm sure you have some secrets hiding in that closet of yours. Many do, those who yell loudest are usually those who have more in their closet to hide than others. No secrets in my closets would you care to look? Everyone , just listen to some of MJ's music, he had a good heart and his music tells what kind of person he was. Listen to the lyrics of his serious songs. Never cared for his style His music sucked Southern Dawg, if you don't care how many or who attends your funeral when you die, then that already tells me you give two sh--ts about how you live your life and that's sad.You have no clue about what you are talking about I Have my opinions on things I feel strongly about and try to live my life the best I can. I have too I have a soon to be 9 yr old daughter that I have been raising by myself since she was 2 weeks old so I pretty much got to keep my nose clean and try do the right things to the best of my ability. I have a lot of opinions I will voice them and dont give a ratsass who dont like them or are offended by them Thats my 1st Admendment Right. So if you dont like what I say I DONT CARE!!!!
You know, I just can't take Dawg seriously. It's like watching one of those zealots out there on the streets preaching about Xenu, coming from a planet far away to save us all, only this one is talking about the First Amendment and shouting "ratsass" (one word, mind you, not two) at the top of his lungs. "Michael Jackson sucks! His music sucks! You suck! Ratsass, ratsass, ratsass!" Of course, this is all done with a distinctively southern accent.
Dawg, it isn't that I don't like what you say--in fact, I think it's pretty funny to see "I have a soon to be 9 yr old daughter that I have been raising by myself since she was 2 weeks old so I pretty much got to keep my nose clean and try do the right things to the best of my ability," like that should make a difference between doing the right and wrong things--but I think you just need to chill out. Nobody takes those street corner Nazi's with any amount of seriousness. I don't, at least. So chill.
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missk wrote: Hi from MissK here: To southern Dawg: Your name says it all about what type of person you are: Everyone deserves respect, No they don't especially someone who was found NOT GUILTY of child molestation.OJ was found not guilty of murder too just because they were found not not guilty doesn't mean they didn't do it money talks Did you not hear about that? Based on your attitude, I'm sure you have some secrets hiding in that closet of yours. Many do, those who yell loudest are usually those who have more in their closet to hide than others. No secrets in my closets would you care to look? Everyone , just listen to some of MJ's music, he had a good heart and his music tells what kind of person he was. Listen to the lyrics of his serious songs. Never cared for his style His music sucked Southern Dawg, if you don't care how many or who attends your funeral when you die, then that already tells me you give two sh--ts about how you live your life and that's sad.You have no clue about what you are talking about I Have my opinions on things I feel strongly about. If you dont like it too bad Personally I am getting sick and tired of hearing about the child molesting FREAK!!!!! Just bury his sleazy ass and forget about it already.
Dawg
You know, it doen't matter who dies, there is a thing called "Respect", obviously something that you have never heard of. you can have your opinions, but you cross the line. He dosen't deserve respect, Now what line did I cross?
Just how many people do you think will be at your funeral when you die? And.....How many are out there that just can't wait to bury your sleazy ass? And forget about you.... Don't know and don't care. I am sure there are a few Like I said I don't care! Why would I worry about it I will be dead and wont know anyways kinda like a moot point isn't it.
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Hi from MissK here: To southern Dawg: Your name says it all about what type of person you are: Everyone deserves respect, especially someone who was found NOT GUILTY of child molestation. Did you not hear about that? Based on your attitude, I'm sure you have some secrets hiding in that closet of yours. Many do, those who yell loudest are usually those who have more in their closet to hide than others. Everyone , just listen to some of MJ's music, he had a good heart and his music tells what kind of person he was. Listen to the lyrics of his serious songs. Southern Dawg, if you don't care how many or who attends your funeral when you die, then that already tells me you give two sh--ts about how you live your life and that's sad.
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missk wrote: Southerndawg wrote: Personally I am getting sick and tired of hearing about the child molesting FREAK!!!!! Just bury his sleazy ass and forget about it already.
Dawg
You know, it doen't matter who dies, there is a thing called "Respect", obviously something that you have never heard of. you can have your opinions, but you cross the line. He dosen't deserve respect, Now what line did I cross?
Just how many people do you think will be at your funeral when you die? And.....How many are out there that just can't wait to bury your sleazy ass? And forget about you.... Don't know and don't care. I am sure there are a few Like I said I don't care! Why would I worry about it I will be dead and wont know anyways kinda like a moot point isn't it.
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| Eds a loser too.We need a whole new bunch.
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What is up with Ed? the one who came back. hos is that permitted,? once booted, not out? he may wind up being the "one".
Wish he would do something about those contacts. that must b annoying for him.
My daughter said this Mon. is the show where all the guys get together and she has an opportunity to speak to them again.
All these guys were not for me. out of all of them I chose not one.
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| He is gone ,he was playing her all along he had a girlfriend back home. He just did this to further his career.He was a jerk
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For the past month our Direct tv has been out. getting a tech today to fix it. Know the good thing about it.? I have been MJ free and no withdrawal symptoms. WOW! that is amazing! I have not heard Jess Jackson or Al Sharpton screaming for any rights on "behalf" of the children , if they were on tv.) It has been wonderful, to not hear them.
Also have read 5 books. amazing.
The sad part , I have not seen Bachlorette.  But if she picks the guy with the scragely hair and the band, I don't want to now about it any ways.
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LMAO  My feelings exactly.
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Meems wrote: Since you think that MJ sleeping in the same bed with children was wrong let me ask you this.......What would you think of a father that slept with his daughters from the time they were babies until they were around 10 years of age. Would you automatically think him a child molester, someone that was very strange or perhaps just a loving daddy.
I believe phychologists say that it is best to keep the children out of Mommy and Daddy's bed and in their own. If there is a scary thunderstorm and they come into your room, I believe it is okay to let them stay until the storm is over, but they need to understand it is temporary.
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Miss Kitty wrote: Ive never heard of MJ sleeping with his children,just the opposite .I heard they where not allowed in his room hmmmmm.He slept with other kids, not of his own. Let me ask you would you let your son spend the nite with him?Because it has to be a boy ,I never heard of him sleeping with a girl.The whole thing is BS, my kids would never be over there.
I agree and neither would I but you have parents looking to get next to this man and would do any thing including put there children alone with him. Did any thing happen except innocent boy fun because mj never grew up mentally and always yearned to capture his boyhood? I don't know I wasn't there and neither was any one in this post, we can think things, we can assume things but we can't 100% positively say we know for a fact that mj molested any children. Look at Debbie Rowe she's sold her children not once but is about to use them again as a bargining chip to earn her millions. This whole thing stinks and everyone is a loser in all this.
I found a web site that has his autospy findings on it and it said he weighted just 118 lbs at death and had a wig on because he had no hair but peach fuzz. He sustained rib fractures during cpr which is common and had track marks all over his upper torso.
Your telling me NONE of his family knew he was a drug addict and never stepped in once in 10 years to help this man? I hope this faily can rest in peace to knowing they helped mj to his grave and never sought help for his emotional issues nor his drug issues. There gravy train ride has now ended,, what will the Jacksons do now?In the end of all this financial mess his kids are going to be left pennyless because everyone already has there hands out like the IRS and debitors clammering to get a piece of what's left. Will they ever bury this man??
Joe Jackson should never be around his children hasn't he already ruined that family enough and now is prowling for fresh meat to taint. Joe jackson you need to be in jail for the abuse you did to those kids!!!
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| Ive never heard of MJ sleeping with his children,just the opposite .I heard they where not allowed in his room hmmmmm.He slept with other kids, not of his own. Let me ask you would you let your son spend the nite with him?Because it has to be a boy ,I never heard of him sleeping with a girl.The whole thing is BS, my kids would never be over there.
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Meems wrote: Since you think that MJ sleeping in the same bed with children was wrong let me ask you this.......What would you think of a father that slept with his daughters from the time they were babies until they were around 10 years of age. Would you automatically think him a child molester, someone that was very strange or perhaps just a loving daddy.
Change that from a father to and uncle or cousin then it is different. What about a neighbour, or friend of the family? Now go with some one you don't really know at all, but like going over to his big house and riding the kiddy rides he has there.
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Since you think that MJ sleeping in the same bed with children was wrong let me ask you this.......What would you think of a father that slept with his daughters from the time they were babies until they were around 10 years of age. Would you automatically think him a child molester, someone that was very strange or perhaps just a loving daddy.
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witch wrote: Miss Kitty wrote: witch wrote: Notice I said " I feel".
You Know witch, I feel he was not a good person. A grown man does not sleep with other peoples sons.There is no reason for that at all,it is sick.So I feel he was a child molester
Your certainly entitled to your opinions. Granted I don't feel that was right either and yes odd but then step back and ask where were the parents of these little boys whom left there children alone with a stranger? Mj might had been world reknown but not privately although I don't judge him because the courts said he was innocent and I can not make up laws because I feel the law made a mistake. I feel he was a good person and just never had a " normal" life and lived inside this shell of a boy trapped in a mans body. I won't say it's " normal" to us but perhaps in his mind he wasn't doing any thing wrong. He's passed on now and I believe in giving the dead there rest. He will be missed by so many that his music touched. When I think of Mj I think of the contributions he made that were positive and helped others when they needed it or asked for it. He's not perfect but I can say neither am I and when I die no one but a few will notice my demise nor will care. Many cared about him and for him and to them they lost a wonderful person. I guess that's what counts in the end. It's the positive marks you leave behind.
The question should be here, how many more high profile people have to slip through the cracks of this easy to get drug market if you have the clout and cash? I feel these Dr's need to start going to jail for knowingly giving meds to these people and supporting there habits instead of saying no and getting them help.
None of us are perfect, but that doesn't mean we cannot learn from Michael Jackson's life story. I believe his mean ole abusing Dad destroyed him. If people, including all of the Jackson family, had ever been able to see beyond their greed and all the money they hoped to make off any of their talents, this probably would not have happened. If any report of such abuse were to be made in this day and age (an age where spanking is hardly allowed) he and Catherine would both be arrested, she, because she stood by and allowed it. And now most of society thinks she is the one most qualified to care for the grandchildren, even though no stipulation has been made that they be kept away from that ignorant old fool.
If Michael didn't think he was doing anything wrong, why was he lying? People can convince themselves they are not wrong, when they want something so much. He likely thought it was not wrong to obtain the surgeries that ultimately led to complete disfigurement. If you watched the documentary "Living with Michael Jackson" you could see that he was lying about how all these changes came about because he naturally changed. Since he lied there, do you not suppose he lied about other things? His sister, Latoya disapproved of his actions and said so, probably for money. Later she reversed her stories and gave glowing reports of their life, again for money. That's what it has always been about for that family. If you saw that documentary, you also saw the shopping trip with his little boy voice exclaiming "oh, I like that, order that" racking up millions. I guess that is okay if you have the money, but many of his articles were later confiscated because he didn't pay for them. It is all about BIG MONEY and that is the lesson to be learned here, in spite of the music he produced. Some artists become convinced over time that they cannot even perform well unless they are drugged up. Go get the drs. who helped him, but he was not blameless in the whole affair.
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witch wrote: flsr wrote: OMG!!! What is it like there in lala land?
I wouldn't know Flr I don't take pain meds but I'm sure you have a lot of experience in that dept so please tell us.
Presenting less credibility for your views, than before, I see. What you seem to be so sure of is not true at all. I take only aspirin for pain. But why do you assume my reference to lala land is from the use of drugs. I thought ignorant people were in lala land naturally, no drugs needed.
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witch wrote: flsr wrote: OMG!!! What is it like there in lala land?
I wouldn't know Flr I don't take pain meds but I'm sure you have a lot of experience in that dept so please tell us.
Now if you want to go to La La land, find some LSD or some mushrooms.
Pain meds just make you numb and dumb.
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Miss Kitty wrote: witch wrote: Notice I said " I feel".
You Know witch, I feel he was not a good person. A grown man does not sleep with other peoples sons.There is no reason for that at all,it is sick.So I feel he was a child molester
Your certainly entitled to your opinions. Granted I don't feel that was right either and yes odd but then step back and ask where were the parents of these little boys whom left there children alone with a stranger? Mj might had been world reknown but not privately although I don't judge him because the courts said he was innocent and I can not make up laws because I feel the law made a mistake. I feel he was a good person and just never had a " normal" life and lived inside this shell of a boy trapped in a mans body. I won't say it's " normal" to us but perhaps in his mind he wasn't doing any thing wrong. He's passed on now and I believe in giving the dead there rest. He will be missed by so many that his music touched. When I think of Mj I think of the contributions he made that were positive and helped others when they needed it or asked for it. He's not perfect but I can say neither am I and when I die no one but a few will notice my demise nor will care. Many cared about him and for him and to them they lost a wonderful person. I guess that's what counts in the end. It's the positive marks you leave behind.
The question should be here, how many more high profile people have to slip through the cracks of this easy to get drug market if you have the clout and cash? I feel these Dr's need to start going to jail for knowingly giving meds to these people and supporting there habits instead of saying no and getting them help.
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witch wrote: Notice I said " I feel".
You Know witch, I feel he was not a good person. A grown man does not sleep with other peoples sons.There is no reason for that at all,it is sick.So I feel he was a child molesterLast edited on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 02:08 am by Miss Kitty
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flsr wrote: OMG!!! What is it like there in lala land?
I wouldn't know Flr I don't take pain meds but I'm sure you have a lot of experience in that dept so please tell us.
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witch wrote: I have to say how sad and very disappointed I am in some of you that feel MJ is a freak. I can say I never knew him and so can you so to judge one with out ever speaking to them and only judging him by what the media tell us is wrong and harsh. I feel Mj grew up in the spot light and never had a childhood and always wanted to recapture it. He had a very childish voice that matched his inner struggles as a man trapped inside a boys mind and soul.Pointing fingers now will not help bring this man back whom brought such wonderful music to our ears and whom some here grew up with including me. I feel he had emotional issues with his family and yes became a drug addict by those around him that allowed him to have them.I thought you said you didn't know him.Or did you hear this from the media. Where was any one whom really cared about him including his mother and father to stop this abuse and save his life? I for one will miss his music and feel he has contributed much to the music industry. As far as Vets go I give them 100% of my daily respect and I'm sure if Mr. Freedman was as well known all over the world as MJ was he to along with others would had been celebrated in his passing as well but the fact is no one knows these silent hero's and so it will remain unless the families make a joyful noise to have them recognized. MJ climbed his way to the top on his own accord. His family tried but many fell short but MJ was persistent to not be a failure because his father was so abusive with him. I believe he was a great father with those children and they will miss him always. He was found innocent of all child molesting charges and you sit here and still judge the man.I don't call him a freak, why because I never knew him. I can't call him any thing bad because I only saw the positive he brought forth. Farrah will be very missed as well. She was a wonderful person with a million dollar smile. She fought the hard fight and sad she lost. Her family grieves daily for her and her son has regrets he wasn't there for her. I just wished people would learn to focus on the positive other bring into the world instead of always looking for one ounce of bad to bash and degrade others. Are we each with out failures and faults?
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| I have to say how sad and very disappointed I am in some of you that feel MJ is a freak. I can say I never knew him and so can you so to judge one with out ever speaking to them and only judging him by what the media tell us is wrong and harsh. I feel Mj grew up in the spot light and never had a childhood and always wanted to recapture it. He had a very childish voice that matched his inner struggles as a man trapped inside a boys mind and soul.Pointing fingers now will not help bring this man back whom brought such wonderful music to our ears and whom some here grew up with including me. I feel he had emotional issues with his family and yes became a drug addict by those around him that allowed him to have them. Where was any one whom really cared about him including his mother and father to stop this abuse and save his life? I for one will miss his music and feel he has contributed much to the music industry. As far as Vets go I give them 100% of my daily respect and I'm sure if Mr. Freedman was as well known all over the world as MJ was he to along with others would had been celebrated in his passing as well but the fact is no one knows these silent hero's and so it will remain unless the families make a joyful noise to have them recognized. MJ climbed his way to the top on his own accord. His family tried but many fell short but MJ was persistent to not be a failure because his father was so abusive with him. I believe he was a great father with those children and they will miss him always. He was found innocent of all child molesting charges and you sit here and still judge the man.I don't call him a freak, why because I never knew him. I can't call him any thing bad because I only saw the positive he brought forth. Farrah will be very missed as well. She was a wonderful person with a million dollar smile. She fought the hard fight and sad she lost. Her family grieves daily for her and her son has regrets he wasn't there for her. I just wished people would learn to focus on the positive other bring into the world instead of always looking for one ounce of bad to bash and degrade others. Are we each with out failures and faults?
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Thank you for that story, I will remember it for a very long time. He is a hero. Which lately I am hearing that word more nd more because it has been distorted as what one really is. It is not an entertainer who simply sings.
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Michael Jackson dies and it’s 24/7 news coverage. A real American hero dies and not a mention of it in the news. The media has no honor and God is watching
Ed Freeman
You're a 19-year-old kid. You're critically wounded and dying in the jungle in the Ia Drang Valley , 11-14-1965, LZ X-ray, Vietnam . Your infantry unit is outnumbered 8-1 and the enemy fire is so intense, from 100 or 200 yards away, that your own Infantry Commander has ordered the MediVac helicopters to stop coming in.
You're lying there, listening to the enemy machine guns, and you know you're not getting out. Your family is half way around the world, 12,000 miles away and you'll never see them again. As the world starts to fade in and out, you know this is the day.
Then, over the machine gun noise, you faintly hear that sound of a helicopter and you look up to see an unarmed Huey, but it doesn't seem real because no Medi-Vac markings are on it.
Ed Freeman is coming for you. He's not Medi-Vac, so it's not his job, but he's flying his Huey down into the machine gun fire, after the Medi-Vacs were ordered not to come.
He's coming anyway.
And he drops it in and sits there in the machine gun fire as they load 2 or 3 of you on board.
Then he flies you up and out, through the gunfire to the doctors and nurses.
And he kept coming back, 13 more times, and took about 30 of you and your buddies out, who would never have gotten out.
Medal of Honor Recipient Ed Freeman died on Wednesday, June 25th, 2009, at the age of 80, in Boise , ID. May God rest his soul.
Medal of Honor Winner
Ed Freeman!
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| Farrah Fawcett went to heaven and God granted her one wish. She said, "To make the world a safer place for children". 3 hours later Michael Jackson died. And Michael Jackson goes up to heaven. God says "for cutting your life short I'll grant you one wish" Michael says "I want to be really really white." So, God says "Hey, lets get that Oxy Clean guy Billy Mays up here!"
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| I respect the dead & feel really sad for the family he left behind. They have lost a loved one. BUT, I have a real problem with everyone "Memorializing" him. He was not a nice person & we shouldn't honor him for that. Just do the decent thing, bury him & know that he will be dealt with.
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CitizenGC wrote: missk wrote: When someone is adopted, the birth certificate is a brand new one, the original is no more. My second husband, adopted my daughter from my first marriage. A new birth certificate was issued with him showing as the father.
Say I'm the father of a child of a divorce and the mother marries someone else, I'm still the father of that child. Nobody has the right to take that away from me without my consent, the new hubby did not act in conceiving the child. Something is not right about that....
Sometimes step-fathers will legally adopt their step-child...in those cases the biological father would have to give up his right and consent to it.
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missk wrote: When someone is adopted, the birth certificate is a brand new one, the original is no more. My second husband, adopted my daughter from my first marriage. A new birth certificate was issued with him showing as the father.
Say I'm the father of a child of a divorce and the mother marries someone else, I'm still the father of that child. Nobody has the right to take that away from me without my consent, the new hubby did not act in conceiving the child. Something is not right about that....
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missk wrote: Southerndawg wrote: Personally I am getting sick and tired of hearing about the child molesting FREAK!!!!! Just bury his sleazy ass and forget about it already.
Dawg
You know, it doen't matter who dies, there is a thing called "Respect", obviously something that you have never heard of. you can have your opinions, but you cross the line. He dosen't deserve respect, Now what line did I cross?
Just how many people do you think will be at your funeral when you die? And.....How many are out there that just can't wait to bury your sleazy ass? And forget about you.... Don't know and don't care. I am sure there are a few Like I said I don't care! Why would I worry about it I will be dead and wont know anyways kinda like a moot point isn't it.
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missk wrote: When someone is adopted, the birth certificate is a brand new one, the original is no more. My second husband, adopted my daughter from my first marriage. A new birth certificate was issued with him showing as the father.
Yes a new birth certificate is issued at the time of adoption and all records are then sealed. If the adoptive parents or the child upon reaching legal age wants the records opened they will find record of the biological parents. Also if you have the names of the biological parents and the county of birth you can find the original birth certificate but many times adpoptive parents and children do not know this information so the court records have to be unsealed.
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missk wrote: When someone is adopted, the birth certificate is a brand new one, the original is no more. My second husband, adopted my daughter from my first marriage. A new birth certificate was issued with him showing as the father.
I never realized, until it was previously mentioned here, that a new birth certificate is issued upon adoption. It seems to me that this is a flaw in the way adoption legality is handled. When a child is adopted it means the adopting parent is making it legal that he is taking over the responsibility of the child and papers should be issued verifying the adoption, but the papers should not be recognized as a "birth" certicate because birth is about who you were born of-----biological mother and biological father. I realize some people don't want any recognition of who they are, and many of the biological parents certainly do not deserve any honor, so to speak, but the law should be stating facts regarding the birth, and the record should not cease to exist.
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He was found not guilty , because he wasn't guilty. He was mis-understood, the lyrics to his songs tell a story, if you listen. He was different, that's all.
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AvaL wrote: Meems wrote: photoshooter wrote: yes, he did. but he did no like little boys
In my personal opinion there was never enough proof presented that Jackson had a thing for little boys. Yes there were a couple of charges and one never reached the courts before the family was paid off. There was never any facts releaced in this case and the other was dropped I believe.
Just because someone is accused of something doesn't make it true.
Actually...He was arrested for it, and there was a HUGE criminal trial back in 2005. More like a circus than a trial, dancing on top of a van, showing up in pajamas, I believe at one time the judge issued a bench warrant b/c he was late. He was, of course, found not guilty.
People vs Jackson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Jackson
93' Allegations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson
Being the celeb he was I believe if they had presented any tangilbe evidence the judge would have loved to have found him guilyt.
If I remember correctly the parents offered to settle for a price and Jackson refused so to me it was all about money and they didn't have a let to stand on as far as molestation goes.
Acting strangely is not a crime. Doing off the wall things is also not a crime.
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Southerndawg wrote: Personally I am getting sick and tired of hearing about the child molesting FREAK!!!!! Just bury his sleazy ass and forget about it already.
Dawg
You know, it doen't matter who dies, there is a thing called "Respect", obviously something that you have never heard of. you can have your opinions, but you cross the line.
Just how many people do you think will be at your funeral when you die? And.....How many are out there that just can't wait to bury your sleazy ass? And forget about you....
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| When someone is adopted, the birth certificate is a brand new one, the original is no more. My second husband, adopted my daughter from my first marriage. A new birth certificate was issued with him showing as the father.
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photoshooter wrote: Who is Machale?
He used to have his own Navy.
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one of the lesser known Jackson Five.....Duh!......
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Who is Machale?
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| This Just in.... Michale Jackson is still dead.
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