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Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 01:51 pm |
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| Tim - I think the term "putting lipstick on that pig" sums up RAM's statement!
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Feb. 14, 2007 -- Dover – Delaware Governor Ruth Ann Minner issued the following statement today in response to DaimlerChrysler’s decision to idle its plant in Newark in 2009:
“I want to commend our state team on making an outstanding presentation to DaimlerChrysler after we learned of the company’s plans for restructuring. Company officials told us Delaware’s presentation was the best of any state, and we appreciate them working with us on what is clearly a very important economic development project,” Gov. Minner said. “While we were hoping for no reductions at the plant, this news is not as bad as it could have been in light of the company-wide cost reductions. We are pleased that the plant will not be closed and look forward to continued opportunities to work with DaimlerChrysler in the years ahead to develop strategies that would help the facility return to production. Again, we never want to see Delaware jobs impacted, but this decision offers us another opportunity to keep this plant viable in the years ahead.”
Source: Delaware Governor's Office
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Posted: Fri Feb 16th, 2007 05:35 am |
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Good points, LCR and Blue Hen.
IMO, progress in Delaware isn't going to occur until we not only change the occupant in the Governor's chair, we also need a party change there as well. Just as the Elephants went a tad stale in 1992 after 16 years at the helm, the Donkey needs to be put to pasture and a fresh group of Republicans - or Libertarians - or Constitutionalists - need to take over.
It seems to me that the mission of DEDO needs to be proactivity in attracting and keeping good business in Delaware. Regarding the Chrysler plant, it has made like an ostrich and buried its head in the ground. OK, many of Chrysler's suppliers are a good distance away, and it became economically unfeasible to continue building their products here, regardless of circumstances.
(Note that Daimler is supposedly considering selling off Chrysler due to unacceptable performance. Maybe the problem is bigger than DEDO, but the latter hasn't helped.)
A good DEDO would have realized this long before it became public knowledge, and would have arranged for another auto manufacturer to buy the facility. Barring that, they would have found another manufacturer to assume ownership and retrofit the facility for its work.
Maybe by 2009 they and/or Chrysler will find the right hat from which Bullwinkle can finally pull the rabbit out - we'll see. After all, a bunch of lost jobs aren't going to make voters happy come November 2008, and if Ruth Ann wants to do her Party right and ensure that Carney succeeds her, just as she did Tom Carper, she will get this done.
(Don't expect much until after Labor Day next year. The Donkey wants "saving those jobs" fresh in voters' minds.)
In the interim, we can only express shame on the DEDO Director. She was, and IMO remains, more concerned with proving to everyone that she's a little big lady.
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Thank you for finally placing the blame at the feet of the current Governor and the incompetent Boobs that Wilmington continues to elect to the US Senate and Congress.
Perhaps when the bleeding hearts in the big "W" wake up and elect a business oriented person to represent us (Alan Levin?) we might make some progress in this State.
The closing of the Chrysler plant is the fault of the company, not the DEDO. Chrysler makes crap product and has for years. It finally caught up with them.
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The Hen is very concerned about the "idling" of the Chrysler plant and the fate of hundreds of hourly employees, many of whom are already working part time at the plant, and who will be laid off later this year. I hope they understand that it was the product, the mismanagement of the company and secondarily the location of the plant that caused the decision - not them. This is of course also not good news for suppliers or local businesses that serve plant employees.
Although it is little solace for those who worked on this problem, running some production through the plant into 2009 was the least onerous of the negative outcomes. Now at least the congressional delegation, management and the union have time to try to fashion some economic argument for management to add a product or two the plant before closure.
I specifically left out DEDO, who according to the self serving press release from RAM got an "A" on their presentation to Chrysler management. Unfortunately DEDO did not co-ordinate its efforts, whatever they were, with others who were managing the challents.
A certain DEDO director is fond of saying that she is not "task oriented" but "results oriented". So, where are the results DEDO director? Where was the follow up from RAM's last trip to Germany? How much recent contact was there with Zetche?
This loss highlights the fact that cluster management has not worked in Delaware For example who is developing relationships with Saturn management to try to get additional product into that plant? How many trips has RAM made to create and solidify relationships with senior Saturn management? In case you haven't noticed DEDO director, Saturn introduced a mid-sized sedan this year and is showing a new compact car at the auto shows. Where are these cars being assembled?
Neither you nor Rasputin nor RAM have ever understood that most of the state's employment is controlled by out of state parents and that each recent Governor in Delaware, up to this one, has made it a priority to develop personal relationships with the CEOs that control employment here. You must realize by now that the cluster approach is not the optimum way to preserve and grow employment here.
Look at the losses in the last few months - Bank of New York - 145 jobs in Newark. When was the last time RAM visited the CEO in New York? Avon - 600 jobs - same question?
Intelligent people change behavior when it fails. You have less than two years to change your behavior or employees in Delaware will suffer. RAM - its time to field a varsity management team in economic development - not the JV!
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Posted: Fri Feb 16th, 2007 01:42 am |
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The Hen is very concerned about the "idling" of the Chrysler plant and the fate of hundreds of hourly employees, many of whom are already working part time at the plant, and who will be laid off later this year. I hope they understand that it was the product, the mismanagement of the company and secondarily the location of the plant that caused the decision - not them. This is of course also not good news for suppliers or local businesses that serve plant employees.
Although it is little solace for those who worked on this problem, running some production through the plant into 2009 was the least onerous of the negative outcomes. Now at least the congressional delegation, management and the union have time to try to fashion some economic argument for management to add a product or two the plant before closure.
I specifically left out DEDO, who according to the self serving press release from RAM got an "A" on their presentation to Chrysler management. Unfortunately DEDO did not co-ordinate its efforts, whatever they were, with others who were managing the challents.
A certain DEDO director is fond of saying that she is not "task oriented" but "results oriented". So, where are the results DEDO director? Where was the follow up from RAM's last trip to Germany? How much recent contact was there with Zetche?
This loss highlights the fact that cluster management has not worked in Delaware For example who is developing relationships with Saturn management to try to get additional product into that plant? How many trips has RAM made to create and solidify relationships with senior Saturn management? In case you haven't noticed DEDO director, Saturn introduced a mid-sized sedan this year and is showing a new compact car at the auto shows. Where are these cars being assembled?
Neither you nor Rasputin nor RAM have ever understood that most of the state's employment is controlled by out of state parents and that each recent Governor in Delaware, up to this one, has made it a priority to develop personal relationships with the CEOs that control employment here. You must realize by now that the cluster approach is not the optimum way to preserve and grow employment here.
Look at the losses in the last few months - Bank of New York - 145 jobs in Newark. When was the last time RAM visited the CEO in New York? Avon - 600 jobs - same question?
Intelligent people change behavior when it fails. You have less than two years to change your behavior or employees in Delaware will suffer. RAM - its time to field a varsity management team in economic development - not the JV!
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 07:06 pm |
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Chrysler Group to cut 13,000 jobs
In 2007, a shift will be eliminated at the Newark, DE Assembly Plant, and the plant will be idled by 2009.
The story by FREE PRESS business writers Tim Higgins and Joe Guy Collier may be read at http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/BUSINESS01/70214011.
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Posted: Fri Feb 9th, 2007 03:45 am |
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Hey Insider too this was posted on State time as are several of your posts....what gives?
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The Agency has 52 budgeted positions and 33 individuals have either resigned or been terminated since Judy was appointed Director. With a turnover rate that high, its not the employees. The Director likes to say that DEDO is to be run like a private sector business, but NO private sector business could operate, function or survive the same way as DEDO. It would be bankrupt very quickly.
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 11:11 pm |
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Scarcastic....no, Sarcastic.......probably, Uneducated........not at all. A search of DTI will show nothing, because I don't post at work, and I'm not in my office long enough to accomplish anything but my work responsibilities. As I have stated before, I only post from home, not a violation of DTI policy. What I do on my own time is my business.
That being said, thanks for the psych analysis.
By the way, your post is full of hatred and uneducated inflamatory remarks about me. But I don't care........... I'm just happy Al Gore invented the internet so I can express my opinions freely. I just wish he would spread some of that global warming our way.
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LCR:
After reading your posts, there is no doubt that you are a bitter and highly scarastic person. You go back and forth from forum to forum spewing many times nothing more than inflamatory, uneducated remarks that are full of hatred. They are truly a reflection of who you really are - which is not a likeable person. With over 1300 posts, its easy to see that you are addicted to your computer, and you have no life. I'm sure that a trace on your workstation activities at DTI will show misuse of State property and violation of the State Computer policy. You may be a merit employee, but that can't vouch for poor performance in the misuse of State property. If you have nothing to add to this forum other than putrid bitterness, please go away. Do not post here anymore,
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| I dunno. I kinda like the guy myself. Keep on postin' LCR. Your dry humor IS funny.
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LCR:
After reading your posts, there is no doubt that you are a bitter and highly scarastic person. You go back and forth from forum to forum spewing many times nothing more than inflamatory, uneducated remarks that are full of hatred. They are truly a reflection of who you really are - which is not a likeable person. With over 1300 posts, its easy to see that you are addicted to your computer, and you have no life. I'm sure that a trace on your workstation activities at DTI will show misuse of State property and violation of the State Computer policy. You may be a merit employee, but that can't vouch for poor performance in the misuse of State property. If you have nothing to add to this forum other than putrid bitterness, please go away. Do not post here anymore,
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 03:12 am |
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Ummmm I posted that yesterday. You must work with Blue Hen and Bigg Dogg
curiousindover wrote:
Here's the skinny folks. Chrysler is closing the Newark plant. Can you spell unemployment for a couple thousand Delawareans?
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 01:33 am |
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| A competent professional in the capital markets area.
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 01:30 am |
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| Whose resigned now blogger?
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 01:29 am |
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| Here's the skinny folks. Chrysler is closing the Newark plant. Can you spell unemployment for a couple thousand Delawareans?
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Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2007 01:27 am |
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| Well, another professional just resigned from DEDO. This one had only been at the agency for a few months. I believe this brings the number to 41 out of 50 positions during this director's tenure. Lets see, at this rate, the entire office may turn over during the Cherry era. What a great testimony to management ability!
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 10:48 pm |
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| Fred - I didn't actually mean that her majesty was personally responsible. I re-read my post and it came off that way. Actually she's not smart enough to be responsible for much more than surrounding herself with a force field of egotistical worn out good ole boys.
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 11:46 am |
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It is not Minner's fault that Chrysler is closing.....I'd put the blame for that on the automaker. It has been given breaks for years, but when you make the decision to get rid of 10K jobs, they have to come from somewhere. For a lot of reasons, this plant has been able to dodge the bullet for years....this is not good news for the area, especially as there are no other like jobs or expansions likely to come.
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 02:28 am |
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| Wake up, it's not staying open, the workers already know. Sheesh.............. BTW, I'd puke blood before I worked for the Dem Administration. I'm merit, we do all the work.
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 02:11 am |
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What a surprise! More brilliant comments from LCR! I don't think I would be bashing Democrats if I worked for them like you apparently do, or maybe you are in the merit system and are safe from reprisals.
Try to read this slowly and carefully now... I am not predicting that the Chrysler plant will stay open I am hoping that it stays open.
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Posted: Wed Feb 7th, 2007 01:11 am |
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I met some Chrysler workers today in Newark, they are already looking to transfer to other plants. Ruth Ann is the problem, not DEDO. Y'all need to grow up and face reality. Republicans create work and Dems tax them out of existence.
Now that you have bitched for a year, figure out where your neighbors are going to work. Maybe a new McWal-Mart for $10.00 per hour. But you're safe in your state job.
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Dogg - You have a good point. The Director was told by very experienced private-sector management that the cluster approach would not work in a small state where most of the employers are owned by out-of-state parents. RAM was the one who fell in love with clusters and no one tried to talk some common sense into her.
Right now, there is no one in DEDO directly responsible for DuPont, AZ, Chrysler, Bank of America, etc. The three cluster leaders are responsible for their clusters - not the companies within their clusters and no one is developing relationships with the managements of all the out-of-state parent organizations to cement or grow the local jobs.
Will next Wednesday be Valentines Day for the Chrysler plant or the Valentines Day Massacre? Hopefully the plant will be spared. God knows the congressional delegaion has been working ceaselessly to save the plant.
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Posted: Tue Feb 6th, 2007 11:46 pm |
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Dogg - You have a good point. The Director was told by very experienced private-sector management that the cluster approach would not work in a small state where most of the employers are owned by out-of-state parents. RAM was the one who fell in love with clusters and no one tried to talk some common sense into her.
Right now, there is no one in DEDO directly responsible for DuPont, AZ, Chrysler, Bank of America, etc. The three cluster leaders are responsible for their clusters - not the companies within their clusters and no one is developing relationships with the managements of all the out-of-state parent organizations to cement or grow the local jobs.
Will next Wednesday be Valentines Day for the Chrysler plant or the Valentines Day Massacre? Hopefully the plant will be spared. God knows the congressional delegaion has been working ceaselessly to save the plant.
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One of the main reasons for the many firings of DEDO employees (and an internal reorganization) was stated by the Director as the employees were "reactive" and not "proactive". The attempted implementation of the Cluster concept was to eliminate the reactive process and type of thinking. The Cluster leaders written job descriptions stated that they were to inform the Director of any plant closings and WARN actions 30 days before they occurred.
Today's news about the Chrysler plant:
Dina Reider, director of marketing and communication with the Delaware Economic Development Office, said yesterday that the state had offered a plan to DaimlerChrysler that was "innovative and aggressive."
The state and the company signed a nondisclosure agreement and could not talk about specifics in the plan, Reider said. She said the company had told the state that it was most concerned about the costs of utilities and of transporting raw materials to the plant.
The announcement that DEDO is offering an incentive on the news of a major employer leaving the State is no different than what DEDO has done since 1981. This is the very type of action that was critized by the Director. If this is a "proactive" type of action, shouldn't the announcement have been that Chrysler has no intentions of leaving the State in view of a major restructuring? The Cluster concept as practiced in AZ doesn't have to respond like this. They have the pulse of their industries and are leading rather than following.
Am I missing something here? Or has the Cluster lost its' luster?
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Posted: Mon Jan 29th, 2007 10:45 pm |
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I'm not sure what hours you work, but mine vary. I post from home. You may find it difficult to believe but even State Employees get days off, comp time and vacation time.
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LCR - Please let us know how you, as a State employee, has the time to post items to this forum during working hours. Is it in part of your job description?
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| LCR - Please let us know how you, as a State employee, has the time to post items to this forum during working hours. Is it in part of your job description?
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More incisive comments from LCR... I guess you just got back from the Mensa meeting.
The solution to the problem and I will write it so that even LCR understands is that the Governor needs to find another qualified candidate to take over the agency.
I know that might be a difficult concept for you LCR. With less than two years left, it has already proved difficult for the administration to find that replacement.
It took RAM long enough. She has met with bipartisan legislative leadership who made the case for the director's removal. She received a letter from an independent senior business leader, who had intimate knowledge of the office, recommending that the Director be terminated. She read the Auditor General's report on contract law violation and has received a very critical report about the Director from the AG.
Obviously the problem reaches into the Governor's office where, once again, there is no one with any significant business, finance or economic development education or experience to give the Governor the proper counsel.
Now was that easy enough for you LCR?
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Posted: Mon Jan 29th, 2007 12:47 am |
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Blah Blah Blah.......Yada Yada Yada..........
Now offer a solution and some positive, forward thinking action you might take to resolve what you see as such crushing incompetence.
Otherwise wallow in your soup and play lap dog.............
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I am for positive change as well (and world peace for that matter). If the well-qualified person who was offered the Director's job a few months ago had accepted, we would now be seeing positive change. Unfortunately, the only thing the staff sees are new spy holes cut into the doors. Ow well there is less than two years to go!
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Posted: Sun Jan 28th, 2007 11:54 pm |
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| I am for positive change as well (and world peace for that matter). If the well-qualified person who was offered the Director's job a few months ago had accepted, we would now be seeing positive change. Unfortunately, the only thing the staff sees are new spy holes cut into the doors. Ow well there is less than two years to go!
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| We all see what we want to see. I see positive change there and want to encourage it.
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Just as I suspected, neither you nor LCR know anything about how the agency works, the legislation that supports it, incentives, or how the agency is perceived in the Delaware corporate, banking and educational communities. Many leaders in these communities now refer to DEDO as a phrase not an acronym - as in dealing with "the DEDO problem" aka the lousy management.
Oh and by the way if the current Director is such a good, courageous leader, confident in her personnel decisions, why did she wait until the legislature was out of session and on vacation to sack 100 years of experience? That act seems more like a cowardly act than a courageous act.
Oh she also forgot to check with SPO (you know - then called state personnel office) before she fired the 10 employess, since one of the 10 could not be terminated and two others were temporarily brought back to avoid litigation.
If you want to learn about the office get the tapes of the public testimony at Representative Stone's public hearing. After you've read this testimony you might have a better understanding of how the agency is being managed. The devil is indeed in the details.
Feel free to criticize the Hen but try to exhibit some knowledge of the agency and facts the next time. Otherwise, like LCR your criticism is emotional yet goundless.
Oh, the Hen is not trapped in a time warp. The Hen is moving on. However, hopefully Chrysler, Discover, Avon, Sears, HSBC and Hercules IT can be convinced not to move on by that excellent DEDO management. We all hope so.
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Posted: Sun Jan 28th, 2007 09:59 pm |
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Answering in specific details would assume I had access to that kind of knowledge. The point was that even if we all agreed there were problems, DEDO is well underway in trying to solve them. I'm not in a position to agrue the past, I'm arguing to look at the present... the vacancy rate has been lowered by hiring qualified new blood (a slow process at best), and some businesses expressing interest in leaving have been given viable alternatives to stay. My guess is we offer ANY company $X because another state offered $X-$1. I'm certain Delaware didn't offer a dollar more than it had to to remain competitive in the process of keeping the jobs here. From what people have told me, DEDO had employees entrenched through prior political favors who were task-oriented not results-oriented. I'd fire them too. If it were your company, you'd fire people who simply went through the motions, or you'd go under. You wouldn't be very popular, but your company would benefit. I think it took a lot of guts to make the hard decisions and face the fire after.
Now that that time has passed, stop belaboring it... no one is going to hire those people back. Look forward. Good people have apparently come onboard, the agency is moving forward, and businesses are learning the new DEDO is more responsive within its bounds. Even so, some companies will find better offers elsewhere, as some will find Delaware perfect for their needs. That's all anyone or any agency can hope for... a realistic shot when it is possible. DEDO is there to assemble the knowledge, funding, and legislation to make the best offer the state can. To me, the villan at DEDO was the merit system. I'd throw that out the window and make sure ANYONE kept his/her job because they did the work and got the results required.
I know this lacks the details you hoped you'd get, but the numbers you quote are just that...numbers. There are numbers games pro and con in this discussion. A case can be made in either direction by turning numbers. Any good statistican could argue either way. My point was and is that the tide has turned, the agency is working daily to keep jobs, and bring jobs to Delaware. Each case, each offer, is different and based on a different set of circumstances. The stakes are high in every case, and it takes someone with the stamina to outlast the complainers like you to see the bigger picture and continue despite the inevitable losses. When DEDO KEEPS a company in Delaware, you might hear about that because business continues as usual. But when one LEAVES, the News Journal is on it the next day, as you two are.
I for one would let the woman do her job, the agency is in better shape now than it was before the firings. Walk through the halls, you'll feel it. Things inevitably change, and people move on, but I'm sure you won't shut this thread down after she leaves. That would imply you have something better to do, which you apparently don't.
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There is a group of people out there who "do" and a group of people who "don't", complaining about the system doesn't qualify your opinion as to someone else's worthiness, it just makes noise, and makes you one of the "don'ts".
This quote from FF seems to sum up the contributions of the Dogg and Hen on this site quite well. IMHO..............
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| Fab Five..............I must admit I'm ready to see your reply also.
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Fab Five - Welcome to the long running discussion of how a high performing agency has been decimated. I took your advice below and looked at the DEDO website.
What I found were four jobs still posted (8% of the effective positions) including one of the most important positions in the office - the director of market development. As you know this position has not effectively been occupied since last January. I know, someone is in the position but that is because the financial services industry in the state is being effectively ignored.
I also found brochures for the Competitiveness Fund and the Technology Fund, both of which have been in existence for over two years. Are these DEDO brochures - no they are Citizens Bank brochures. Does it take two years to publish DEDO requirements for these funds? I guess so since regulations were never written for these and other funds and the APA process was never followed. Why is that Fab Five? Why couldn't all of these programs be included in the Strategic Fund? If you read the founding legislation for this fund it was designed so that new programs could be added.
I also noticed that the description of the Strategic Fund refers twice to the Business Development section. I think that was replaced three years ago with clusters.
Services on the website include those for Import Export Assistance and International Trade. These services were provided by DEDO since they were first offered years ago - that is until last year when the legislature moved the entire unit to OMB. Why were they moved Fab Five?
As for our economic development report card I am happy that the state received an A. The state does have an excellent base for economic development and should score highly on these studies. I will point out that in this particular study, one of the reasons for our high grade was our rate of IPOs. As you know this is a false grade for us because of the corporations law and the fact that a majority of new corporations charter here.
Since we do have such an appealing environment for companies to grow and relocate to - why did we have to offer Invista about $38,000 per job for them to stay? Why wouldn't we offer them $4,500 per job like we did for the 5,000 AstraZeneca jobs?
I am also happy that SP&S is moving here. The ongoing question remains, since we have such an appealing environment did we have to offer the company a $1 million convertible loan for seven jobs. That is about $142,000 per job vs. the $20,000 per job that DEDO's partner Citizen's Bank lends for its economic development loans. Oh and who in DEDO was capable of valuing the company to set the price for the conversion feature? It wouldn't be the Director since she has no formal business education.
As you mentioned there is an ebb and flow of business in and out of the state. I suppose you could net the SP&S gain with the Accelapure departure to Maryland a few months ago because of the ineffectiveness of DEDO.
Look forward to your answers to my questions. Hope your new addition is doing well!
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| Inane bickering... yawn.
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LCR, No I'm not a state employee are you a spelling bee winner ? Is that all you have to offer on this blog ? 
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Dear BAKEN - you must be a merit employee cause yer spellin sur din't git yer job fer ya.
BAKEN wrote:
my my .. such language is really not necessary. You must be a Mckinney-Cherry supporter. I'm not at all impressed with anything she has done and wonder why she continues to have her job. Hopefully not much longer . If the state legislatures and other powers that be did their jobs she would have been gone a long time ago. Would you really want her running your company?
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BAKEN wrote:
what does " fab five stand for?" isn't that anonymous also?
Sure is, but then I'm not running down a public official behind the cloak of anonymity.
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Try this for a change:
http://www.state.de.us/dedo/default.shtmlLast edited on Mon Jan 22nd, 2007 11:08 pm by Fab Five
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| what does " fab five stand for?" isn't that anonymous also? I don't know for the first thing about running a company and would not pretend I did. I would not make a complete fool of myself, fire most of my staff , make the others so miserable they left and pretend I can run things just fine when questioned by the legislatures. What is going to happen to Dedo and please share what these new positive things are that are happening as we speak. I'm sure there are lots of others that are not "in the know " as you so seem to be. Please share your fabulous wisdom.
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Baken, all a Cabinet Secretary and Division Director has to do is their job to the satisfaction of the Governor. Competency need not apply. They are pure political appointees, having their job because they know the right people in the political party occupying the Governor's chair.
...and all the Governor has to do is win an election. Welcome to America. The next Governor will likely do the same thing. And if the governors historically placed no-talent people in those positions as you suggest, they'd not win re-election, pass legislation, or move on to the US Sentate, etc. There is a time-proven set of checks and balances built in to keep any official, elected or appointed from ruining an agency or position.
There is a group of people out there who "do" and a group of people who "don't", complaining about the system doesn't qualify your opinion as to someone else's worthiness, it just makes noise, and makes you one of the "don'ts".
How many links to RECENT articles showing Delaware as a LEADER in economic development (both in results AND innovation) would you like me to post here? Do you have someone who can explain the statistics and big words to you?
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BAKEN wrote:
my my .. such language is really not necessary. You must be a Mckinney-Cherry supporter. I'm not at all impressed with anything she has done and wonder why she continues to have her job. Hopefully not much longer . If the state legislatures and other powers that be did their jobs she would have been gone a long time ago. Would you really want her running your company?
What I AM is a proponent of positive change. I see that happening and would rather see people address the positive aspects of what has happened SINCE the shake up.
Would I want her running MY company? Hmmm...as opposed to an anonymous whiner afraid of looking at the present, let alone the future? Sure!
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Baken, all a Cabinet Secretary and Division Director has to do is their job to the satisfaction of the Governor. Competency need not apply. They are pure political appointees, having their job because they know the right people in the political party occupying the Governor's chair.
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| my my .. such language is really not necessary. You must be a Mckinney-Cherry supporter. I'm not at all impressed with anything she has done and wonder why she continues to have her job. Hopefully not much longer . If the state legislatures and other powers that be did their jobs she would have been gone a long time ago. Would you really want her running your company?
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Every time some one tries to bring a voice of reason to this forum, the naysayers come out in force.
It must be time for the Blue Hen to pipe in with another prediction of when heads are going to roll.
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No.
No.
No.
But I also don't have my head up my ass oblivious to the changes that have gone on there and in Delaware since this thread started. Maybe YOU should wake up from YOUR long sleep and notice a bit more of the world around you...it has moved on while you were napping.
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| Did you just learn of this site? Did you just move to De? Did you just wake up from a long sleep?
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It is ignorant to think that every business that is in Delaware or comes to Delaware will STAY in Delaware. There is a natural ebb and flow in regards to businesses, just as people move in and out of the state. Some of the movement is beyond anyone's control. The company the Governor visited today moved here from Maryland. The owner is a UD graduate who really wanted to ultimately come home to Delaware and bring his company. I'm sure Maryland isn't calling for the head of the director of some state agency. Intelligent, proactive people do what they can, influence where they can and recognize the natural order of things... even in business. Not even a simple number of jobs in and out of the state tells the whole story...the number of QUALITY jobs brought here is what matters.
Do you have a clue as to the net gain or loss of jobs by number?
Do you know the effect on the GSP the jobs LOST have versus the jobs added?
Likely not or you'd make a better argument.
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| I saw in the paper where she accepted an award for Delaware for bringing new business to the state. Of course no mention of all the businesses leaving . It's like taking with one hand and giving with the other .
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Hmmmmm...Blue Hen, huh?
Maybe blue in the face from ranting without breathing?
The people I know at DEDO (and it is quite a few...old AND new) are quite energetic, forward-thinking and hard working. The discussions I have with that staff shows employees who really care about what they're doing...and that includes the Director.
Some people are just "half-empty" I guess. Amazing progress has been made at DEDO over the months. You should really move on to something worthy of your rants... like maybe Rosie and Donald...more your intelligence level.
By the way...there are a few recent press releases on the site since October...NOT AUGUST. Seems responsive to me! There's even one from today!
You do pay your internet provider, right? Here's a hint...
REFRESH YOUR BROWSER MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.
Your friend,
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| Oh - I forgot to mention that Honeywell did open a data center. A member of the congressional delegation worked with NCC to do the deal and the county extracted grant money from DEDO.
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