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A right off the bat approach may not be best, but a rigorous review of each employee.... absolutely. 100%.

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I hope Markell dumps everyone in this office when he takes office.  Everyone......

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Good bye Mini-me.

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Sorry to see #49 resign.  This was a good employee who put up with a lot.  I understand that #50 has informally announced and will be leaving in February. 
What a shame!  Fifty people occupying 38 positions in DEDO have come and gone in the last few years, many as a direct response to management issues.  A high performing agency was turned on its head with the few veterans left just keeping their heads down, in some cases continuing to look for other jobs and along with the business community just counting the days until this nightmare ends.  Hany on gang, it will end!

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and another one is leaving real soon! 49!! One to go!!

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...and it deserved to. If I don't perform, I'm gone... fine with me. I'm a private sector person, you keep your job by working hard, working smart, and working within professional standards.

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How would you know whether #48 deserved it or not? 

While there were a number of grammatical and spelling errors in this person's parting e-mail, which was widely distributed, many of the management accusations ring true with the veterans and with any of the 47 people who have come and gone from DEDO in the last few years, who have been able to read it.

BTW, since there are about a dozen or so veterans, that means that with 48 departures and 50 actual positions, several positions have been turned over more than once under this director.  I think the senior management position that #48 occupied has turned over at least three times while Cherry has managed DEDO.  Great management - huh!

Five, even your position has turned over a couple of times at least.

Happy New Year!

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Number 48 deserved it... easily.

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Make that number 48 out of 50 possible positions and this person did not go quietly.  Hang on you long-suffering veterans, only one year left!

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47 down - three to go to turn over the entire office!

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I'm going to take a shot in the dark; go out on a limb, and pose an actual question. Given this is a "DEDO" forum, I say we debate/discuss a VERY REAL economic conundrum. This question has been kicked around the block a time or two, but I have yet to hear what I consider a compelling argument for a positive plan of action. It's an easy one: What will Delaware do when the inevitable strikes? Referring to, of course, the not too distant closure of ALL auto plants? Sure, union agreements will force them to remain operative for the next few years, but then what? Delaware officials will be unable to convince the companies to keep those plants in operation; not because Delaware isn't a great place to do business, but because it starkly contrasts with any economic reasoning. The 4,000+ employees will have gone from an artificially comfortable life style, to one of unemployment WITHOUT education or any skill sets allowing them to competitively reenter the workforce.

So I guess the question is what lies ahead for those workers? And what steps should Delaware be taking to ensure high-wage jobs are available for qualified workers?

Last edited on Wed Nov 21st, 2007 02:46 pm by Politically Humerous

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CR Voter, as I've said before, I am NOT suggesting I have all or any of the answers, but I believe the only way to uncover answers is to have a healthy, respectful debate. It's unfortunate there are so many individuals here who just can't move on... The fact is, like any organization, DEDO has real challenges. We should be talking about real opportunities.

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Back on the subject of the lousy management at DEDO, I was told the director showed up 45 minutes late for a First State Innovations breakfast last week embarrassing herself, the state and disrespecting the speakers. 

Typical performance unfortunately.  I wonder who got blamed in DEDO for this one.

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Please shine your light and humility and knowledge on us poor plebes.

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Politically Humorous, I second your comments. I keep checking in on this forum hoping for something more. Yet, all I find is posts from people capable of reasonable debate and potential solutions -- I believe anyway -- steadfastly refusing to offer anything more than what is seemingly an online tantrum between a bunch of.... well, who? Who are you anyway? Petulant former employees? Trivial current employees with no voice? Back-seat-driving friends of these individuals? Any business stakeholders? Government partners? Community members? Let's discuss something that matters -- and I promise you, that's not whether the DEDO director was late to a function.

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Back on the subject of the lousy management at DEDO, I was told the director showed up 45 minutes late for a First State Innovations breakfast last week embarrassing herself, the state and disrespecting the speakers. 

Typical performance unfortunately.  I wonder who got blamed in DEDO for this one.

Happy Thanksgiving!

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  Pardon me for interrupting, but this forum seems to do little more than serve as a platform for personal attacks and frivelous feuding. I know there are some intelligent people out there, so why not engage in productive, insightful economic development discussion? JMO

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Punky wrote: Well, CR.....You and I have been to hell and back with that same old accusation.
This has NOTHING to do with you, it's not about YOU, it's not about what I have accused YOU and CR Voter of.

 

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Well, CR.....You and I have been to hell and back with that same old accusation.

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I assure you that I believe you are way above using multiple personalities, it never even dawned on me that you would take it that way.  Mea culpa........

 

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I will take your word you meant no offense, however I have no qualms stating it gave me the impression you were insinuating that I was using multiple identities here.


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CR Voter wrote: Hab - Bluesman hijacked the LCR Moniker on Aug 28th when the Webmaster blew the real LCR off for calling Taos Eddy a Pompous A$$.  BTW Bluesman confirmed this on the Camden forum yesterday.

When I posted the comment on Aug 7th I was impressed by Fab Five and her refreshing comments about DEDO.  It reminded me of the refreshing comments you often post when a debate gets heated or ridiculous.

Nothing more nothing less.  Sorry if you found it offensive.

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LCR wrote: truer words never spoken Fab (Hab) Five
Care to explain this August 7th post of yours?  What exactly were you saying or attempting to insinuate?



Look CRV, I have no interest in getting involved in your spat/feud/whatever with Bluesman, it has nothing to do with me and I like it that way.

My question had nothing to do with a "hijacking" of the moniker, as your comment occured nearly 3 weeks before the hijacking, and at a time when I wasn't even around here very much, which is why it stuck out at me when I was going back through the thread looking for something else.

I will take your word you meant no offense, however I have no qualms stating it gave me the impression you were insinuating that I was using multiple identities here.

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Hab - Bluesman hijacked the LCR Moniker on Aug 28th when the Webmaster blew the real LCR off for calling Taos Eddy a Pompous A$$.  BTW Bluesman confirmed this on the Camden forum yesterday.

When I posted the comment on Aug 7th I was impressed by Fab Five and her refreshing comments about DEDO.  It reminded me of the refreshing comments you often post when a debate gets heated or ridiculous.

Nothing more nothing less.  Sorry if you found it offensive.

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LCR wrote: truer words never spoken Fab (Hab) Five
Care to explain this August 7th post of yours?  What exactly were you saying or attempting to insinuate?

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Fab Five:

You're just as bad as the Fishwrap... quoting only the data that suits your argument.

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Habanero wrote: LCR wrote: truer words never spoken Fab (Hab) Five
Care to explain this August 7th post of yours?  What exactly were you saying or attempting to insinuate?

Yes inquiring minds want to know.......it certainly wasn't the actions of a new kinder, gentler compassionate LCR who would insinuate something like that.

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LCR wrote: truer words never spoken Fab (Hab) Five
Care to explain this August 7th post of yours?  What exactly were you saying or attempting to insinuate?

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(yawn)

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed individual.

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Five - If you are so proud of this information why must someone FOIA it?  The answer is that much of this information is suspect and if published would lead to additonal laughs around the state.  Maybe the News Journal might be interested?  Time for you to crawl back under your rock and update your resume.  Have a great weekend!

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I should know better than to try to teach a pig to sing. It just annoys the pig and wastes my time.

The answers are all right in front of you and readily available, but you'd obvioulsy rather bitch and moan. Call DEDO, ask to be shown the information... file a FOIA request, if necessary.

Try to walk away from the computer and enjoy your weekend.

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Five -  I have a problem with semantics?  What you just tried to explain is Clintonian at best!  The Governor said "created or maintained" not "impacted".  Even you can find the difference in those words by an online dictionary.  But than again - maybe not. 

So, lets see, why don't you post the spreadsheet and the other "influenced" list of 25,000 jobs on your web site?  You know - along with that patent list that cost the state $5 million and an additional high five figures each year to maintain.

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The Capital Resources Center at DEDO maintains a spread sheet of actual numbers of loans/grants, training monies, and companies assisted with site selection needs. That alone accounts for 40,000 jobs impacted since the beginning of the Minner administration. The additional 25,000 jobs are a result of companies that the Cluster leaders have either recruited or assisted in expansion efforts. In these cases, the state did not provide business financing dollars, but DEDO's efforts either enabled existing business retention, relocation, or start-ups.

...sorry, I assumed you understood the meaning of the word "impact" (in context, of course), but apparently you'd rather spend time niggling over semantics. We use either terminology on occasion.

Any other words you need explained? Call DEDO, there are many talented experts there eager to help you understand just about anything business-related.

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Five - You may use the word "impacted", but Governor Minner did not.  Here is the specific language from the first sentence of paragraph three of her article in the News Journal dated 110/28/07, titled Making a State That Fosters Knowledge-based Growth:

"During or administration we have created or maintained more than 65,000 jobs, ..."

I assume you can read and understand this simple language and I further assume that DEDO either wrote or edited this as it has always wrote or edited economic development pieces for previous governors. 

So aside from this statement causing some laughs around the state, please list even the first 20,000 jobs.

Oh, when you use the term "impacted", does that mean if DEDA gave a small grant to - say the largest employer in the state - all of its jobs would have been impacted?  I guess so because that is the only way to get to 65,000 jobs.

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DEDO's language is "impacted 65,000." That number is derived from jobs at companies Delaware has loaned or granted money to, or those companies that Delaware has recruited or existing companies assisted in some way, but didn't necessarily GIVE money to. DEDO tracks this number and can justify it. Keep in mind, DEDO analyzes the TOTAL economic impact when calculating these numbers.

It is a complex statistic, so you may need someone to help explain it to you.

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Fab Five - Your big boss has been quoted as saying "During my administration we have created or retained 65,000 jobs..."  Many of us would like to know the details behind the 65,000 jobs.  Remember, according to information on the Department of Labor's website there are 400,000 jobs in Delaware.  So ... come on Five, breakdown that number for us!  Oh, is "we" DEDO or simply the collective we in the state?

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No, YOU'RE in trouble because you don't seem to "get" that propogating an inaccuracy is just as harmful as printing it in the first place.

...and maybe because you blog skills suck.

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Fab:

As I stated before,
if you're one of the best and brightest DEDO has to offer, no wonder we're in trouble.

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All I did was post the News Journal article.


Did the Kauffman report list ONE stat? NO. Only the ignorant would publish an article around one stat, out of context, without considering the other information provided within that report. Quoting the ignorant and then falling back on the position that you only posted their article makes your ignorance even more loathsome.

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Fab Five wrote: Bigg_Dogg wrote:
...Delaware ranked among the bottom five states in a measure of entrepreneurial activity released last year by the Kauffman Foundation.

You're just as bad as the Fishwrap... quoting only the data that suits your argument.

Hey Fab, stop with the PM outbursts and emotional blowouts. All it does is make you look funny when your head spins around in circles. If you would learn how to read, you would see I never made any argument for or against any data. All I did was post the News Journal article. If you're one of the best and brightest DEDO has to offer, no wonder we're in trouble.


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Not that you're interested, but DEDO keeps the good news here:

http://dedo.delaware.gov/Why.shtml


Read it sometime...

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...Delaware ranked among the bottom five states in a measure of entrepreneurial activity released last year by the Kauffman Foundation.

You're just as bad as the Fishwrap... quoting only the data that suits your argument. I'm sure DEDO will be happy to provide you a copy of the entire Kauffman report where you'll see that statistic is but a SMALL COMPONENT of the entire ranking. Actually, Delaware ranked highly in many of the other components, resulting in an overall 7th (up from 9th in the previous report). The low ranking in entreprenurial activity is a direct result of Delaware's low unemployment rate. When unemployment is low, entreprenurial activity typically declines. An employed workforce is less inclined to strike out on their own in a new venture. The Department of Labor actually considers Delaware at "full employment" when our unemployment rate hits 3% (as it is now).

BTW... back to the Fishwrap... WHY... WHY would a paper supposedly concerned with the state's well-being use a headline of losing another 12,000 jobs (jobs not even IN this state), when they could have EASILY been PRO-Delaware and made the headline reflect the fact that the new Durango and Aspen hybrids are going to be made here? WHY? Because it doesn't sell newspapers. "Damn the state that supports us... let's SPIN the news to sell papers!!!"

I can see the next slow news day's headline... sun goes down, we're all doomed!!!

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Was DEDO even part of this conference called together by UD? I think the University ought to stick to fixing their 'diversity' programs and cutting costs to keep tuition affordable , but hey, I'm just a taxpayer. 

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More good Economic Development News For Delaware from the News Journal:

Conference examines health of Delaware's economy The News Journal Posted Friday, November 2, 2007 at 12:01 pm Leaders from the state, business and the University of Delaware began a day-long conference this morning aimed at charting a new economic course for Delaware and a greater role for the university.

The conference, involving about 400 people, comes at a crucial time for Delaware as the state grapples with historic changes in the structure of its economy. For the first time in more than 100 years, the state is without a fast-growing dominant employer.

DuPont pulled the state through most of the 20th century. When it began to pull back in the early 1990s in response to heightened global competition, MBNA credit card bank stepped into the breach. Now that MBNA has been swallowed up by Bank of America, the state lacks a Delaware-based corporate giant to provide the kind of employment and deep support to the educational, social service and cultural communities to which the state has been long accustomed.

Instead, economists and economic development experts predict the state's economy will become more diversified as it shifts to smaller and emerging companies dealing in innovation and knowledge.

But Delaware has some hurdles to overcome. A 2003 study by the Council on Competitiveness found that small businesses were unaware of opportunities to collaborate with the university to develop and commercialize technology. What's more, Delaware ranked among the bottom five states in a measure of entrepreneurial activity released last year by the Kauffman Foundation.

The conference is the first of a series. The date and topic of the next program will be announced at Friday's event.

The event is sponsored by the university, Select Greater Philadelphia, Delaware Public Policy Institute, the governor's office, Delaware State Chamber of Commerce, Delaware Business Roundtable, First State Innovation and The News Journal.

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Hi Blue Hen.....seems you were invited to leave.

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Yes Cherry you should definitely run for Bruce Ennis's seat in the House (assuming it becomes available)!

Run Cherry Run!!!

Bring that special blend of:

ethical behavior (How many DEDO employees did you repeatedly tell the joint finance committee that supposedly worked in the Delaware Tourism Office - was that 12? - Your expert handling of state bid laws)

keen analytical insight (Do conduit bonds really impact the State's bond ratings? - No yet you approved dozens of them over five years?),

courage (When did you fire 20% of your staff - was that during the legislative session or 14 days after it ended?),

your tireless preparation for meetings (asking the CEO of one of the largest banks in the country - on his first visit to Delaware - to sponsor a golf tournament when if you had done some homework you would have discovered that he hated golf and was bent on reducing costs),

your timliness for important meetings (HAH!) and

your great management skills (almost turning 100% of your staff over during your tenure at DEDO, including turning over several key positions more than once!)

your fiscal conservatism (Responsible for most of the largest grants and loans DEDO ever made.  Were they really needed?)

your handling of sensitive projects (Great job on bringing the DMA bond request to your public meeting for a recommendation - it must have been your project since you let your staff present it at the meeting - which you could have stopped any time prior to the public meeting - and then rejected it after the meeting and an almost unanimous vote from the public council)

Several staff members in DEDO would undoubtedly contribute to your campaign, if you would just leave DEDO sooner than later!

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Eddy -  I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the DMA bond issue.

On another topic, Governor What Was Her Name is literally tilting at windmills in Europe on an economic trade mission to visit among others AstraZeneca.  So where is the DEDO director?  Here of course! 

Did the DEDO director plan or execute this trip - no.  The group that planned it and executed it works in another state agency.  They used to work in DEDO but the legislature transferred them through epilogue language to protect them.

I would like to recommend that everyone get on board to encourage the DEDO director to throw her hat into to ring for Bruce Ennis's house seat - assuming she lives in his district.  He will undoubtedly replace Jim Vaughn in the Senate. 

Run director run, but don't forget to leave DEDO as soon as possible.  Many of the veterans in the office will chip in or help with the campaign, I'm sure.

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The Blue Hen wrote: Eddy - You seem to be repeating a lot yourself.  I have already said that I think this transaction should have moved forward.  It was stopped stopped by political pressure.  You must understand that.

If you know anything about the status of the charter schools in Delaware, you would realize that doing this deal will not open the floodgates for the others.  Only two made it this far in how many years.  They don't have the successful track record, or the cash flow coverage to obtain credit enhancement for long term debt.

So, why not approve this perfectly acceptable application and then look at possible legislative responses to the policy issue later this year or next?

Until you address the specific point raised in the rejection I don't think your position has any credibility whatsoever. Your attempts to leap first and then look at where we might land are irresponsible to the degree that they reek of the political motives you are ascribing to others.


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Now that is the pot calling the kettle black.....

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Give it a rest, already. Do you think that simply repeating YOUR argument just makes the opposing argument disappear? How many times are you going to drag that red herring down the path?


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Eddy - You seem to be repeating a lot yourself.  I have already said that I think this transaction should have moved forward.  It was stopped stopped by political pressure.  You must understand that.

If you know anything about the status of the charter schools in Delaware, you would realize that doing this deal will not open the floodgates for the others.  Only two made it this far in how many years.  They don't have the successful track record, or the cash flow coverage to obtain credit enhancement for long term debt.

So, why not approve this perfectly acceptable application and then look at possible legislative responses to the policy issue later this year or next?

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 Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 08:35 pm
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Give it a rest, already. Do you think that simply repeating YOUR argument just makes the opposing argument disappear? How many times are you going to drag that red herring down the path?

No one said there was anything in the "code that prohibits charter schools from purchasing or renovating real estate".

Please see my previous posts for what the actual reason for the denial was. Also, let me remind you of the golden rule of policy making:
Beware of unintended consequences.
What you are seeing is a case where, because of the language in the original bill, an unintended consequnce is of action is now presentinig itself.

Let me ask you again:
Do you think the process should go forward even if it has significant policy ramifications (outside the scope of this single loan) impacting public accountability in regular public school funding?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


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Eddy and Dogg - I am not a tax lawyer, but the DMA is structured as a corporation with a board of directors.  It petitioned the IRS and was granted tax exempt status.  Public schools are not separately incorporated in this state, so in their present form, are not separate corporations and could not file for 501C3 status under federal tax code.

Eddy - As I wrote earlier, I found nothing in state code that prohibits charter schools from purchasing or renovating real estate.  I am not saying its not in there.  I just haven't found it.  No one against this transaction has pointed out the section in the code prohibiting this financing.  The code does permit these schools to use state funds to repay debt. 

Remember the argument that was made that this was legislative intent.  Yet the legislature had many years to spell out their intent and, though it was not the state, the county actually issued tax exempt, conduit bonds for another charter school

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