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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 03:55 pm |
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I'm crushed, and here I thought we could like each other and still disagree about our politics. If it wasn't for you bleeding hearts, I wouldn't have any reason to keep on going each morning...
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Haha....cute PTG.... sorry I don't go to the Legion or the VFW..... I got sick and tired of people talking about their war stories..... I did my two tours in Nam and don't care to be around that stuff anymore..... but I will say this to you conservative hard heads...... you better wake up...... cause YOU DON'T GET IT..... BTW... I still can't find any reason to like you..... *S*
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Game_Over2007 wrote: Obama and Senator Feingold (D-WI) took on both parties and proposed ethics legislation that was described as the "gold standard" for reform. It was because of their leadership that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips became part of the final ethics bill that was signed into law.
Too bad he didn't have some ethics in his real estate dealings when he and his indicted friend worked out an unethical deal so that he could purchase his million and half dollar home home.
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 01:21 pm |
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| Haha....cute PTG.... sorry I don't go to the Legion or the VFW..... I got sick and tired of people talking about their war stories..... I did my two tours in Nam and don't care to be around that stuff anymore..... but I will say this to you conservative hard heads...... you better wake up...... cause YOU DON'T GET IT..... BTW... I still can't find any reason to like you..... *S*
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| Are you both still at the Legion?
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| Way to go GO...... Can't wait for the Hockey Mom credentials to get investigated and analyzed..... Two mavericks in charge....what an awful thought.... Last edited on Sat Aug 30th, 2008 12:54 pm by Legends457
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 11:42 am |
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Here is another blog I was reading and its mazing how the facts get twisted by the conservative hard heads and FOX news aka (F channel). LOL.....
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For the record I am not a guilt stricken white man - I believe that Obama has the ability to lead this country in a way that we have been waiting for.
Obama passed legislation with Republican Senator Jim Talent to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps. The tax credit covers 30 percent of the costs of switching one or more traditional petroleum pumps to E85, which is an 85 percent ethanol/15 percent gasoline blend.
After a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.
His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent.
Obama created the Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income working families in 2000 and successfully sponsored a measure to make the credit permanent in 2003. The law offered about $105 million in tax relief over three years.
Obama joined forces with former U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL) to pass the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned gifts from lobbyists. Before the law was passed, one organization ranked Illinois worst among 50 states for its campaign finance regulations.
As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan.
He traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.
Obama has been a leading advocate for protecting the right to vote, helping to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act and leading the opposition against discriminatory barriers to voting.
In the U.S. Senate, Obama introduced the STOP FRAUD Act to increase penalties for mortgage fraud and provide more protections for low-income homebuyers, well before the current subprime crisis began.
Obama sponsored legislation to combat predatory payday loans, and he also was credited with lobbied the state to more closely regulate some of the most egregious predatory lending practices.
Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 to provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military.
Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.
Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.
Obama and Senator Feingold (D-WI) took on both parties and proposed ethics legislation that was described as the "gold standard" for reform. It was because of their leadership that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips became part of the final ethics bill that was signed into law.
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Well your entitled to your opinion and maybe thats why we're in the situation were in now. Like I said one track minds accomplish nothing. You conservative die hards think only of yourself and nothing more. You have no fiscal ethics when it comes to accountability and the last eight years proves it. As far as John "boys" pick for VP, I think yesterday Gov Palin commented she has not really paid that much attention to the war in Iraq. Amazing comment from a Hockey Mom. *S* Tell that to the parents of over 4000 dead service men and women who lost their lives for George W Bush and Dick Cheney. Funny they never served in the military huh? Bush was a party guy who missed his drills in the National Guard and Dick Cheney had FIVE deferments for being a Chicken Hawk.
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In his first two years in the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama was back in his familiar role as member of the minority party. Republicans tightly controlled the U.S. Senate, and it was very difficult for any Democratic Senator to get a bill passed. During that time, Senator Obama sponsored 152 bills and resolutions, and cosponsored 427 more.
Senator Obama thus far has two bills which became law, that have his name on them. The Lugar-Obama bill which I've already discussed, expands efforts to destroy WMDs (e.g. in the former Soviet states). And the Coburn-Obama Transparency Act. The Transparency Act created a website managed by OMB for ensuring transparency of funds allocated to government agencies. It tracks all federal spending, and allows Google-type searches based on agency, types of funding, etc.
One of his first bills after being elected to the U.S. Senate was a proposal to increased Pell Grants, thereby fulfilling a campaign promise. Unfortunately, in the tightly controlled Republican Senate, this bill didn't make it out of committee.
Perhaps his most impressive accomplishment in the U.S. Senate happened on January 18, 2007. That is when the Senate passed a major ethics/lobbying reform bill. (Senator Obama had voted against a prior ethics reform bill that he said wasn't tough enough.) Newspapers give Senators Obama and Russ Feingold significant credit for insisting that this latest ethics bill included tough measures. Obama risked some political capital to get this bill passed. The bill bans gifts/meals from lobbyists; puts an end to subsidized corporate jets; requires full disclosure of earmarks (who are the earmarks for, and for what purpose); places restrictions on retiring members of Congress going immediately into lobbying; requires lobbyists to disclose bundling of contributions to Congress, candidates or committees. This was a HUGE victory for Senator Obama. It still needs to be reconciled with a House version of the bill, and then signed by the president.
Senator Democratic leader Harry Reid has designated Barack Obama as the Democrats' point man on ethics, citing three reasons for his selection: whenever Obama walks into a room, everyone stops talking and listens to what he has to say; Obama is known for having unquestionable ethics and integrity; Obama's expertise on ethics and campaign reform while in Springfield made him a leading expert on those same issues in the U.S. Senate. This last point can't be emphasized enough. The fact that Obama mastered, and led the fight, on so many complex political issues in eight years in Springfield gave him a huge head start in addressing the same complex issues at the federal level.
Senator Obama has also sponsored the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007. It would cap troops at January 10, 2007 levels, begin withdrawal by May 1, 2007, and call for complete withdrawal of combat brigades by March 31 of 2008. Withdrawal would be postponed if Iraq meets certain benchmarks. This is consistent with the Iraq Study Group. (Solely from memory, I believe this study group was chaired by Lee Hamilton and James Baker III.) Bill Richardson wants complete withdrawal by end of 2007. Hillary Clinton has called for a phased withdrawal of troops starting in 90 days. John Edwards 40,000-50,000 troops withdrawn immediately, and the remainder withdrawn within 12-18 months.
Senator Obama also has experience and judgment on foreign policy. He is on the senate committees for foreign relations; homeland security; veterans affairs; health, education, labor and pensions. He studied political science with an emphasis on international relations and Columbia. And he's gone on three major trips overseas as part of an official Senate delegation, meeting with U.S. generals, and/or foreign leaders. He and Senator Lugar travelled to the former Soviet states to inspect the destruction of WMDs; he traveled to Iraq and met with U.S. generals, and also toured Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, Palestinian territories (he told Palestinian Authority President MahMoud Abbas that US would never recognize Hamas leaders until they renounced mission to eliminate Israel.); he visited various African countries, including Kenya (his father's homeland), and publicly took an AIDS test to show people in Africa that it was ok and even socially responsible to have an AIDS test.
He has backed various plans for lessening reliance on Middle East oil. He has offered the big three domestic automakers a deal: the federal government pays 10% of health care costs of their retired employees, if the automakers will commit to building more fuel efficient cars. He has also called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3 percent every year for 15 years). He's encouraged use of ethnanol as an alternative fuel.
It's worth noting, as the article quoted above does, that during most of his tenure both in Springfield and Washington, he was in the minority party, which in itself stymied his ability to pass legislation. But in both cases, he still managed to work in a bi-partisan way to get legislation through the process. That all by itself is a pretty remarkable accomplishment. It might be good if some of the talking heads they send out to support him had this information in front of them.
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Obama - Community Organizer and well known friend to radical leftist. Has his home partially funded by his friend who is currently under indictment. Rev. Wright his long time friend and mentor. Obama - Three years in the democratically controlled Senate.
Now, tell me exactly what meaningful legislation he has introduced and or passed. He has been in for 3.5 years but has been on the campaign trail for over 1.5 years. He has been too busy campaigning to get elected throughout his life to have devoted any time to representing his constituents.
He actually has less experience at governing than Sarah Palen. AND he is running for the number 1 position. Sounds like the Obama/Biden team is a little out of kilter.
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Lets see now. We have John "boy" McCain throwing a curve ball by picking this woman Governor from Alaska. She could be the Messiah he needs to help save this election for McCain because John "boy" is having a real hard time living up to his so called Maverick image.
I'm amazed you can feel so secure with Ms Palin if she gets a call in the wee hours of the morning considering her "long" track record of public service. Must be her Hockey Mom mind-set and her ability to deal with the corrupt Alaska politicians all of whom are mostly conservative. *S*
Hab.... I wonder sometimes what the hell goes through the minds of you die hard conservative pundits who have one track minds for the future. Washington needs a royal enema to flush out both sides of the isle. I see both parties with issues of corruption but I do have enough common sense to see what this country really needs and its leadership with a sense of purpose for the future. We have a severe problem ahead of us and without good leadership we have nothing. How in hell do you think we got here? I'm sorry to say its been on George Bush's watch. I think we need to chart another course of action.
Read the tax plans for the future and see who really wins when it comes to putting money into the economy. This conservative maze of voodoo economics created in the 1980's is a real joke and we're still paying for it today. Conservatives have controlled the purse and this is the end result of eight years of FAILURES. You guys can be proud of your accomplishments. You've doubled our deficits and added FIVE TRILLION more dollars of debt. Spent more money than any other administration in U.S. history. Deregulated our financial system with an end result a housing disaster and mortgage meltdown. Conservatives took pride in busting unions and made sure all those tax incentives helped ship our good paying jobs overseas. Remember the old ENRON mess and Ken Lay? Lay was on the BUSH social list of "friends".
Tell me why I should listen to your boy John McCain? He can't remember crap and if he dies in office I'm not sure I want a Hockey Mom in charge. You can't sit here and tell me John McCain is the leader we need to move forward. He has done nothing to support "change". I've seen his voting record for our veterans and its not good. He has a hard time communicating the message people want to hear. Look at what Obama has accomplished with the short time he's been in public service. He's been involved with "grass roots" projects within our society helping others accomplish in life. He has a sense of purpose based on his life's accomplishments and helping others achieve in life. That drives our economy in the long term. Sense of purpose is a driver we need in our everyday lives to achieve and make life better for others.
Sure you wonder about those shady politics in Chicago but until you can prove to me Obama did something wrong, its a moot point. John "boy" is no saint either. He has a real problem with his temper and he doesn't listen. Reminds me of BUSH with his arrogant behavior. Navy pilots have a real problem with their egos. The world does not revolve around these types of people with one track minds. If you listened with an open mind when Obama gave his speech the other day, you would have seen the reality of what is going on around us.
I've supported both parties in my sixty years but the system is broken and ever since Reagan, I've come to the conclusion enough is enough.
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Game_Over2007 wrote: Ms Palin claim to fame - former council woman, mayor and a Governor with 18 months experience. Makes me feel good about our security and our ability to deal with world class issues.
The Republican party is well "experienced" alright. Look where all that experience has gotten this country.I don't know how much more of that experience I trust them to contribute to our livelihoods. Where'd you get that from anyway?..I know it had to be one of those"news" networks. Not that it's not true but it's just the direction that they seem to want to take the election and thought process to voters.I'm still not hearing too much about change. Oh,except from Obama.I'm glad that you support change and the will from a candidate to do just that but please support him for legitamate reasons.Anyone with half a brain could figure out that the same old thing aint always good and Palin would do well to take advantage of that woeful experience in which her peers seem to make the news of the day every day.
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Yo, Legends --- how much investigation of his own backpocket, let alone backyard, has your boy Obama instigated? Do the names Ayers or Rezko ring bells with you? Let's not even go near Chicago corruption, all Democrat corruption by the way.
Gov. Palin has a proven track record of going after corruption in her backyard, and especially within her own party ---- just ask Ted Stevens for starters 
Something about stones and people who live in glass houses comes to mind.........enjoy your weekend, and your fantasy with Obama.
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| Tell the rest of the boys at the Legion Hey for me.
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| Think she's more your type...... LOL..... vote the party line..... this was a joke today.... dumb got dumber...... if people elect that guy..... poor pity this country..... the rich get their win and more greed will prevail...... have a great weekend PTG.....
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| Or she could join you at the bar and swap stories about how great things used to be.
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| Some people are born LEADERS........... they inspire others to work for a common cause......... bomb bomb Iran don't cut it..... btw.... Leadership is what Obama is all about...... 85, 000 supporters watched him the other night giving one of the greatest speeches ever...... McCain has a hard time getting people to come see him...... but vote for him PTG..... carry on the tradition of not voting your party lines..... some disagree and think for themselves..... maybe you like what this economy is all about.... I don't and want change.....new direction...... Don't need Ms Palin to run her mouth about banning abortions................ she can go back to Alaska and eat Moosebergers with her hubby..... maybe clean up the corruption in her own back yard with Ted Stevens....... another prize from the GOP Last edited on Sat Aug 30th, 2008 01:27 am by Legends457
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 12:54 am |
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| Kind of like Obama and his vast experience in leading the most powerful country in the world with some time as a community organizer and 140 days in the Senate setting the stage for his run at the presidency.
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Today John "boy" McCain made me proud. Every time this boy makes a decision in his so called "maverick" mind-set, we see fireworks! Just think about this woman being ohe heart-beet from the US Presidency? Think about her so called creditentials for the job. Ms Palin claim to fame - former council woman, mayor and a Governor with 18 months experience. Makes me feel good about our security and our ability to deal with world class issues. This Hockey Mom needs to stay in Alaska and take care of her corruption cases. This couldn't get any better and sure hope John "boy" makes more of these intelligent decisions.
President Palin??????? hmmmmmm
Be happy and enjoy Labor Day......
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Here are some interesting articles.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/derivatives-new-ticking-time-bomb/story.aspx?guid=%7BB9E54A5D-4796-4D0D-AC9E-D9124B59D436%7D&print=true&dist=printTop
Recently Pimco's bond fund king Bill Gross said "What we are witnessing is essentially the breakdown of our modern-day banking system, a complex of leveraged lending so hard to understand that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke required a face-to-face refresher course from hedge fund managers in mid-August." In short, not only Warren Buffett, but Bond King Bill Gross, our Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, the Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and the rest of America's leaders can't "figure out" the world's $516 trillion derivatives. Why? Gross says we are creating a new "shadow banking system." Derivatives are now not just risk management tools. As Gross and others see it, the real problem is that derivatives are now a new way of creating money outside the normal central bank liquidity rules. How? Because they're private contracts between two companies or institutions.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0808/S00344.htm Part VIII – The Two Great Financial Mysteries of Our Time: Missing Money and Collateral Fraud ---HUD spent 27 MILLION DOLLARS A MINUTE IN TRANSACTIONS IT CALLS UNDOCUMENTALBE. THE DOD HAS TRILLIONS WITH A T IT CANT ACCOUNT FOR. I wonder why our taxes are so high
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Game_Over2007 wrote: Last night OBAMA sent a message and awoke a nation. OBAMA showed this country what the future holds and what "WE" need to do to fix it. He is Commander and Chief qualified and will lead this country where it needs to go to get us back on track again.
Next week take a break and go to the movies. The RNC has no message except four more years of the same. The RERUN is overbearing. We can not afford four more years of George W Bush. Enjoy your weekend. SMILE.....
NO ONE WHO HAS NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY IS QUALIFIED TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF! NO ONE who has not at least gone thru basic training should be commander in chief. otherwise you have chicken hawks who order others to put their lives on the line, but went AWOL when it was their turn.
OR I could take the opposite and say anyone is qualified as the position is really just a one point of contact for the civilian branch of gov. Congress are the only ones who can declare war so the Chief is just the guy who gives the militaries Congresses instructions on whom to war against. But of course this would require that the limitations on powers in the Constitution where actually being followed. Which we know they are not cos we still have a standing army.
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| Going into the election Obama set the tone for a win last night and McCain will never be able to debate Obama. McCain can't remember anything, let down veterans and follows Bush to the tee. Facts are facts and McCain loses.
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Last night OBAMA sent a message and awoke a nation. OBAMA showed this country what the future holds and what "WE" need to do to fix it. He is Commander and Chief qualified and will lead this country where it needs to go to get us back on track again.
Next week take a break and go to the movies. The RNC has no message except four more years of the same. The RERUN is overbearing. We can not afford four more years of George W Bush. Enjoy your weekend. SMILE.....
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Habanero wrote: Hey folks if you want socialism as opposed to capitalism why don't you move to Canada or Great Britain and leave those of us who prefer capitalism and a representative republic alone?
Tell me you are not naive enough to think that the US of A actually functions via the Constitution. This has been a facists state since Lincoln attacked the South. And capitalism in America means screw whom ever you can for a dime and if you screw up by say creating a mortage bubble well the gov will just socialize your loses.
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| Has anyone explained the McCain tax plan? Still waiting on that responce. Don't think he really has one. I think his plan is to follow George W Bush.
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The "Torch" has been passed and you couldn't ask for a better night at the DNC. This Independent likes what he sees and our fellow Republicans have their work cut out for them going into the RNC. The Karl Rove tactics of old are fading off as more and more people see the light for what it really is and now they want their country back and on track for a better future. The RNC has nothing going in its favor as more and more exposure to truth is brought to light.
Their is no change with the RNC, just "MORE OF THE SAME". John "boy" McCain just don't get it and it's just not good enough. Eight years of FAILED POLICIES, Eight years of LIES, Eight years of CORRUPTION & DISTRUST, and MORE OF THE SAME has ran it's course for the last time.
By the way VETS.... how can you vote for a man who turned his back on your needs as a VET. He's voted FIVE times against helping VETS. McCain is joing at the hip with Bush and Cheney so what more can you ask for? Bush and Cheney never served and I will leave it at that with those two draft dodgers. I did my time "over there" and then some.... I don't need John McCain voting against fellow veterans who "served the call for duty"! We all paid a price and this Vietnam VET will cast his vote for real leadership and real change. My vote will not include John McCain.
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Well it's funny how the fear mongers keep talking about this issue and yet when you ask them why we have this out of control debt they turn their heads and blame the DEMS. Amazing how that FUZZY math works these days. Lets see now. Over the last 230 yrs we've managed to accumulate over FIVE trillion dollars of debt. Under the BUSH EMPIRE, we've out did ourselves. We've added FIVE TRILLION more and now after eight long years of Bushism.... we now have TEN TRILLION dollars of debt to give our kids so they can pay for it. Amazing how this man from Crawford Texas screwed up this country and now he goes back home to tell everybody how great he was as our leader during troubling times. I would love to see him and his fellow cronies brought up on war crimes but he took care of that before the DEMS took over congress two years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 09:59 pm |
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| Hey folks if you want socialism as opposed to capitalism why don't you move to Canada or Great Britain and leave those of us who prefer capitalism and a representative republic alone?
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Thanks Game,
I looked up the difference between the two plans and was pleasently suprised to find that for my aging retired parents, the Obama plan would benefit them more.
Less to no taxes for seniors, the prospect of a health plan that wouldn't cost them so much. These things you would think they could get behind. I sent some articles I was able to find to my Dad - don't think this will change his mind, but you never know.
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| Hey, guys....why nothing on the international market apparently seeking refuge in the relatively safe dollar? How about oil dropping on this relative strength?
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Well I think theirs a lot of people out there just not sure of Obama. This country has come a long way and I'm not listening to these yahoos who put the man down because they can't connect the so called dots. I'd rather vote for this man based on his visions for the future where we take a different direction and get back on track for what needs to be done in this country. I'm personally sick and tired of the same ole same ole. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Privilege gets you more and the people who need help in life are put down for their shortfalls. The greedy get greedier and life goes on. We fail ourselves by not listening to whats going on around us and its reality at its best. John McCain has no more clue as to whats going on around him than George Bush. Privilege has ruled enough in this country and now its time for a real change in direction. Read Obama's tax plan. Then read John McCains. It's not hard to figure out if your retired on a fixed income. You will not be taxed if you make less than 50K of your retirement. The plan fixes loop holes and gives more to the middle class. If you want the rich to get richer, vote for McCain.
Remember the Bush prescription plan? A real disaster and work of art for those on the money making side of the equation. FOUR MORE MONTHS and we get rid of BUSHISM...... Last edited on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 10:09 pm by Game_Over2007
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 05:30 pm |
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| http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CompanyFocus/TaxpayersGiveFatCats20Billion.aspx
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 04:18 pm |
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| Hillary did everything that anyone could expect of her, except offer to bake cookies for them to vote for Obama....and they will. Some want the opportunity to vote for her today...fine. Most will heed what she said, some will cast the vote for posterity sake, but I suspect you will have less than 10% who were going to vote for Hillary turn around and vote for McCain.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 02:55 pm |
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I loved Hillary's speech - I think she did a terrific job, if that doesn't unite the party then those who are dems and still vote for McCain are stupid and should just change their party affiliation.
We need loyalty now more than ever and I am impressed with Michelle and Hilliary and Jill.
I like the comfortable way Michelle and Joe and Jill seemed with each other last night.
I would like to see how Cindy is around John's VP pick and his/her spouse.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 02:48 pm |
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sorry, I'll try to be easier on your tired old eyes - this any better?
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 10:28 am |
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McCain just don't get it with Veterans.... He talks a good game but had to cave in the other day reminding everyone of his POW status.... That was then and this is NOW. Desperation is kicking in and maybe he needs to get hold of Bush's 527 boys to do a swift-boating tactic on Obama.... McCain has been thanked for his honorable service to his country, now talk REAL ISSUES. He's losing it......
http://arrogantatheist.blogspot.com/2008/07/video-of-john-mccains-failures-with.html
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 09:51 am |
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| LOL..... Sounds like Hillary set the record straight last night PTG and no matter what you think about her and the party, they are RIGHT ON TARGET. The message was given and Fox News can stew on that message all day today. LOL LOL....
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 01:29 am |
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"I love the smell of napalm in the morning....."
Legends457 wrote:
Well Angel the Fox news draft dodgers set up a war room in Denver. It's amusing to see them scramble for news and stir the pot. Trouble is everybody knows them and like the Karl Rove crowd goes, nobody cares. OBAMA will take this home.......
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 01:27 am |
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| Sounds like good management making sound decisions to me.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 01:24 am |
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This is a first for sure.... I guess when Southwest Airlines cuts flights, times are really getting bad..... Get ready for a hard winter.... Cash is KING
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080826/southwest_cuts.html
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 10:55 pm |
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Please calm down your font size, you are blowing the readability up for no reason.
truthsabitterpill wrote:
Angle you are wrong in thinking there is no plan - there is a state wide plan and each town/city has a plan - you can find the comp plans on the web if you look hard enough. Kent County didn't like the growth, even when it was within the appropriate "Growth zone" areas, outside the areas the farmers didn't like the fact that their property was being leg-ironed by regs that kept them from selling to developers at a price that would ensure a profitable retirement. People who enjoy living in their subdivisions don't want to afford anyone else that opportunity, they begrudge anyone the same opportunities they had because there was a boom in development, not remembering that they too once bought their homes during a boom in the economy and a boom in housing in this area. Like all things - change is inevitable the boom will bust and it has with dramatic effects that will challenge us all - whether we made good fiscal decisions or not - we will all pay the price for the housing market taking a dive. And that is a crying shame, but one we will have to get through no matter what.
Greed to one person is just opportunity to another.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 05:35 pm |
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| Well Angel the Fox news draft dodgers set up a war room in Denver. It's amusing to see them scramble for news and stir the pot. Trouble is everybody knows them and like the Karl Rove crowd goes, nobody cares. OBAMA will take this home.......
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 02:47 pm |
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Angle you are wrong in thinking there is no plan - there is a state wide plan and each town/city has a plan - you can find the comp plans on the web if you look hard enough. Kent County didn't like the growth, even when it was within the appropriate "Growth zone" areas, outside the areas the farmers didn't like the fact that their property was being leg-ironed by regs that kept them from selling to developers at a price that would ensure a profitable retirement. People who enjoy living in their subdivisions don't want to afford anyone else that opportunity, they begrudge anyone the same opportunities they had because there was a boom in development, not remembering that they too once bought their homes during a boom in the economy and a boom in housing in this area. Like all things - change is inevitable the boom will bust and it has with dramatic effects that will challenge us all - whether we made good fiscal decisions or not - we will all pay the price for the housing market taking a dive. And that is a crying shame, but one we will have to get through no matter what.
Greed to one person is just opportunity to another.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 02:44 pm |
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| One thing about this election and its very clear to those who see the big picture. Eight years ago Bush came into office with a surplus and ignored those who warned him about spending like theirs no tomorrow. Bush has accomplished nothing in eight years and our economy today is the end result of his poor leadership. Nobody can tell me they are better off today than they were eight years ago. If you are your crazy or on dope. FIVE TRILLION dollars of debt under his watch and the man is still in denial. He's a legend in his own mind. He needs to just go home and let OBAMA clean up his mess.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 11:28 am |
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| Ah yes here we go again. Do not under estimate this generation who marches to a different tune. This generation wants accountability and integrity restored to our way of government. The last eight years of Bush and his "above the law" mind-set hasn't done the GOP a lot of good among numerous other false hoods.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 09:49 am |
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| Last night Michelle Obama gave a heartfelt speech reaching a lot of people who really didn't know her and now they do. The McCain's can figure it out if they can and lets just see how they come back today. I think John "boy" has his work cut out for him and his attack machine is dead in the water. The last eight years of BUSHISM has ruined this country. Now we need CHANGE. Communication within our country has driven this movement and no matter what you think about it, its real and its going to beat the GOP fear mongering machine and Wall Street's Greed. Remember John "boy" can't use a computer, doesn't know anything about the economy. Guess he's stuck in the good "ole days" reading Bushism or those TEXAS TEA Leaves huh? Last edited on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 10:08 am by Game_Over2007
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 01:48 am |
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| Let us clarify that Fred, they have been the Holy Grail of the Democrat Party. Republicans know better.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 01:41 am |
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You may have a point, CR. Young people have always been the Holy Grail of candidates, but they have never consistantly showed up to vote on election day. They always say they are going to vote, but they always manage to find something else to do.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 01:15 am |
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| Fortunately, or Unfortunately, the You Tube generation doesn't vote. They have already dumped Obama because there was no instant gratification. The generation the Dems are chasing have the attention span of a flea. The Dems are also the ones who started this campaign 4 years ago and the texting generation has become bored with it.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 01:00 am |
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McCain has a real problem with remembering things. Liar Liar.....
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/02/mccain-lies-about-his-support-for-mlk-jr-day-in-arizona/
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 10:29 pm |
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Angel1965 wrote: I seen last night where Fox News is already in attack mode trying to get its fair and balanced agenda moving forward with far right wing attacks. They seem to open old news over and over again and it goes nowhere. Ooooops.... Forgot Karl Rove is on the payroll now and the GOP needs to vent its agenda of typical dirty tactics.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 06:14 pm |
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| Not to worry, the Clintons are on Obama's side now. The dirty tricksters themselves will be out in force. |