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| Actually, I tuned in to Fox News Sunday to see Hillary Dillary Dock's live interview (the democrats' poster girl) and learned she's worse than I thought. I love her boisterous, forced laugh!
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| GO 2007 - unlike you, I listen to all the sources and research both sides, before I belch out my opinion.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 10:43 pm |
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| Hmmmm are you a scientist Lyle? Stay tuned to FOX Noise and learn more.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 10:27 pm |
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| Kind of like the global warming folks, eh Fred?
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 02:25 pm |
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But these naysayers have been warning of an impending crash (meaning the next quarter) for decades....especially those pushing gold on late night infomericals.
And like the doomsayers who were convinced the world would end in the year 999, they will eventually be proved right...the economy will tank to some low level, and we may well go into a depression. It may or may not be because of the Federal Reserve System, or it may be that the FRS simply postponed an eventual crash.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 01:34 pm |
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Fred wrote: Ben,
Does it ever cross your mind that people have been warning of the "upcoming" crash of the Federal Reserve System since about 20 minutes after it started? The system is what it is, and there were very good reasons why we went off the gold standard....maybe they do not balance, but the point is that there was very good national reasons why it was implemented, and there are good reasons why it will continue to roll along.
Indeed they have Fred thats because there is only one outcome of a fiat money system. that is a crash.
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Your absolutely right with regards to the FED and the bottom line still is this country has to much "debt" and no matter what the others outside the FED box say, you still have to pay down "debt". The Bush administration in 2002 encouraged financial institutions to get "creative" when they preached their financial forums for the next generation of the American dream. Well you don't package bad debt with good debt and make the economy grow like it did in real estate. The rich got richer as always when you create a "facade" for growth like we had in real estate. Now we pay for it and the problem is we don't have a clue as to who is holding this commercial paper gone bad. Should be interesting to see what the average Wal Mart shopper does in the real world of economics as the numbers come out. The average Wal Mart shopper has enough income at present to go 23 days into the month. This number came out three weeks ago and its not good. Goldie Loxx economy? Larry Kudlow needs to get off crack cocaine preaching that crap. 
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Heard a good interview on NPR with the Allan Sloan, head of Fortune Magazine.....he was pretty clear that the Fed's primary job isn't the safety of you or I, but that of the banking system. They will not allow a collapse, although their actions, in his opinion, are simply pushing off the consequences that we will have to pay for one day.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 09:24 am |
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Posted: Mon Sep 24th, 2007 09:17 am |
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August foreclosures at record levels and this one article puts it in perspective for those of you who think this ring wing easy lending economy made sense...
http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/12/real_estate/surprising_face_of_foreclosure_Olivers/index.htm
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| Every network's show has a specific audience and demographic, and O'Reilly has a certain type of person who tunes in to see what they want to see. I think what his viewers like is that they THINK they are getting their information straight and without spin, which, of course, is ridiculous. It would be as ridiculous as claiming the same from Olberman, which he has never made.
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FOX NOISE funny's.... Unbelievable BS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gua2nweOxyg&mode=related&search=
Amazing how Billy's followers think this POS is the greatest thing since sliced bread and yet the man has never been held accountable for his never ending BS on the radio air-waves.............. Great role model and another draft dodger from years ago.
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I have better things to do than to worry over others who have nothing to do all day and cause problems for others..... Ignore is the key word Angel...... Read this about the mess over in England.... remind you of anything? The FED really botched this one and this latest move will back fire if people don't realize they have to pay down debt and I don't see it happening here or there...... Lending institutions created this mess with the EASY MONEY..... now they PAY.....
http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/22/news/international/bc.apfn.eu.fin.com.britain.northern.ap/index.htm
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| Enjoy your weekend...... Just remember to smile..... A mind is a terrible thing to waste when your so in tuned to yourself..... ENJOY LIFE
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| Great comeback "Lyle" but you need to focus on "You" more and quit worrying over others on this "reality" board who don't care about your "knit knoid" comments or your "jealously". You must have "lost" a lot of money during the tech bubble for maybe being careless with your money and now you hate day traders. I think that might be it and your in denial. Remember when "dumb money" comes into the market we make "money" based on stupid decisions! Enjoy your day and like Angel said you march to a different tune maybe. Last edited on Sat Sep 22nd, 2007 02:07 pm by Game_Over2007
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| I think you both found a new way to have phone sex without your wives finding out. Sorry Angel, but I doubt your expressed femininity.
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Posted: Sat Sep 22nd, 2007 12:35 am |
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| Your to funny Punky.... Cute comment..... hmmmm.... why don't you mind your own business maybe? Has anyone here offended you in any way? Are you bothered by others making money "day trading" as you say? I think people can talk about anything they want and this message topic fits the need I think whether you think so or not...... Now have a fine night and a great weekend..... Last edited on Sat Sep 22nd, 2007 02:20 pm by Angel1965
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Declining dollar article....
http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/21/markets/dollar/index.htm
http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/19/markets/debt_markets/index.htm?postversion=2007091912
Makes you wonder why we have close to 12000 foreclosures in Delaware and the resets have just started on the ARMS.... So do we bail these "debt mongers" out or do we let the system work and let them fail? I'm a realist and I say let them fail and let the markets correct this mess. We don't need the FED correcting this mess. The 5.25 Feds Fund Rate was right where it needed to be and now we'll go back to the old ways and this will get worse. We have no business bailing out the Wall Street Hedge Funds or anyone else tied to the markets. The dollar is a JOKE and the idea of free trade follows has run its course. Wait on the Chinese to send their cars to Mexico and "skate" by the import fees...... It just gets better as time passes.....
PS: Freedom of Speech rules and GWB can KMA......
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Fred, you might want to consider the consequences of the world moving away from the greenback as its staple currency. The Euro is supplanting the USD as the currency of choice for the petroleum market, and there is good reason for that. Our current policy with China has their currency pegged to ours, it isn't a floating exchange rate. That is a situation that must change sooner rather than later. When it does you'll see an inflationary reaction that will serve to devalue the USD (and thus reduce in real terms our debt load).
China isn't the only entity that will suffer when this happens and the other big players are preparing for the devaluation by moving out of dollars.
The bill always comes due.
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Posted: Fri Sep 21st, 2007 10:59 pm |
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Ben,
Does it ever cross your mind that people have been warning of the "upcoming" crash of the Federal Reserve System since about 20 minutes after it started? The system is what it is, and there were very good reasons why we went off the gold standard....maybe they do not balance, but the point is that there was very good national reasons why it was implemented, and there are good reasons why it will continue to roll along.
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Posted: Fri Sep 21st, 2007 04:43 pm |
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ONly a fool pickers with a fool. Thats why I never return Bushes phone calls
focus on whats important. that would be the FRN crashing down around our ears!
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| Sounds like a love fest, to me. Why don't you two just continue with this via your e-mail addresses, then your free speech could be more private. Last edited on Fri Sep 21st, 2007 02:29 pm by Punky
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| Day traders? I think the board was set up for a thing called "reality" and its a general sharing of information about "everything" going on around us. I think when people share information whether it meets your criteria or not is not relevant and its called freedom of speech. Life is complicated "Huh"? If want to share thoughts about the economic situation with others I will and if you don't like it just ignore me. I'm sure Angel feels the same way. Enjoy your day and support your GOP doctrine.
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Lying Bush? Some can't handle the TRUTH...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOS_mN89iHY&mode=related&search=olbermann%20countdown%20special%20comment%20bush%20corrupt%20lies%209/11
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The Bushies exposed.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziIzzjF6PVo
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The Bushie Economic plan.... LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfYFKzkgKKk
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| It's funny how draft dodgers are because over time their true colors come out and they are exposed for who they really are and no more. I guess you can compare a draft dodger to a cock roach. They seem to come out in the dark, look over their shoulder to see if anyone is looking and then they gather for their meal. Reminds me of the Bush Economic Policies making the rich richer. I blame the two Jabonies in the White House for this mess and no matter what is said those Right Wing tax cuts to make the rich richer broke the economic back of this country. The world order is laughing at us and China is going ruin us no matter what is said and done.
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Lyle Jr. wrote: Gosh, when I went to undergrad at the University of Windsor in 1970 the US Dollar was below the Canadian. We seem to have done well in the past 37 years. Something about economies and cycles and trends.
When the cycles end or obfuscate at one end consistently, I will be concerned. Some folks are making money and some are losing money. Parity with the Canadian dollar is great for manufacturing & trade, it just sucks for the Americans who are looking for a travel bargain close to home.
Too bad the only thing you learned was how to attempt misdirection and deception. Is that what being a draft dodger was to you, a way to cheat the system?
Actually, the truth is that the USD was fixed against the Canadian dollar in 1970, so I'm not sure why you trot that out other than as an attempt at deception. In the first embargo, the oil wealthy Canadian economy pushed their dollar up above the USD for a short period, but it hasn't been anywhere close since. As late as 1998 the canadianD was only .63 of a USD.
The dollar's fall tracks well with oil price increases...
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| I wish you day traders would find a new home to spew your contratian efforts.
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Posted: Thu Sep 20th, 2007 10:47 pm |
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Well these articles kind of some up the news for the day.... the FED really missed this one and the RATE CUT will be the gloom and doom we all feared.....
http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/20/real_estate/bernanke_house_testimony/index.htm
The reports on the Mortgage Meltdowns are right on the money.... why do you think foreign banks are in fear mode with regards to the meltdown here..... people are asking for their money now and the funds overseas are going to have to pay them on demand.... maybe?
http://money.cnn.com/real_estate/foreclosures/
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Gosh, when I went to undergrad at the University of Windsor in 1970 the US Dollar was below the Canadian. We seem to have done well in the past 37 years. Something about economies and cycles and trends.
When the cycles end or obfuscate at one end consistently, I will be concerned. Some folks are making money and some are losing money. Parity with the Canadian dollar is great for manufacturing & trade, it just sucks for the Americans who are looking for a travel bargain close to home.
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The Canadian dollar has reached parity with the U.S. dollar for the first time since 1976. They are now equal in value. The euro also soared to its highest-ever level against the dollar, trading above $1.40 for the first time since the currency was introduced in 1999. So why is the dollar plunging, and what impact does that plunge have on U.S. and world markets? Here's a look at some of the reasons for the dollar's fall, and the consequence...
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/MarketTalk/story?id=3629796&page=1
And in case you want to see the 5 year trend:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=USDEUR=X&t=5y
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Bixby wrote: Ben Franklin wrote: More extreamly bad news for the dollar. the depression isnt far off, best you prepare yourselves accordingly I have been hearing that rant for over 20 years now. It's a good thing I bought a helmet back then. I can wear it when the sky begins to fall.
Good for you, Bixby. My helmet rusted!
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Ben Franklin wrote: More extreamly bad news for the dollar. the depression isnt far off, best you prepare yourselves accordingly I have been hearing that rant for over 20 years now. It's a good thing I bought a helmet back then. I can wear it when the sky begins to fall.
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More extreamly bad news for the dollar.
the depression isnt far off, best you prepare yourselves accordingly
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml;jsessionid=4JVQZ5AW2G0UHQFIQMGCFFWAVCBQUIV0?xml=/money/2007/09/19/bcnsaudi119.xml
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Amazing video clip on King Bush.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN-eGOtBGbg&mode=related&search=
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| Angel the rate cut today just postponed the inevitable. People are still losing their homes and their spending will be curtailed no matter what happens with the lower interest rate. Its amazing with oil over $81 and food prices rising like they are I can't see us not going into a recession. You can only squeeze so much blood out of the consumer.....
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| Hey Game...... sent you that information yesterday.... Fed action today is meaningless when you consider the damage has been done. Lehman Bros reported today and the negative write offs have to make you wonder what the paper was they were holding..... this has got to be the biggest lie ever told and still the dumb money keeps coming into the market...... Band-aid fix till the next set of roaches come out of the wood work..... They blame Greenspan.... amazing how they can't accept the reason for this credit crunch..... Bushie sold out this country and the middle class pays.....
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| You Tube is a form of reality and not a news source. You have to look at the big picture when these news networks think they can "manipulate" public coverage and then be exposed doing it. Ratings are ratings but reality rules. This is humor at its best using video clips to see the "other side" views. Right wingers can't handle the truth as its been proven in the so called poles. Look at the Bushie legacy if you can see anything the the administration has done right in almost seven years. His tax incentives and easy lending has set this country into a credit crunch sending shivers all around the world. Standing in line to get your money outside of a bank in London makes one wonder huh? The Aussies are having issues now overnight with three banks there. Bushism has gone sour and we now pay the piper. Over 12000 homes heading into foreclosure in the state of Delaware now. The rest of the country is no better off and then you hear how great it is but for who? Reality is the Goldie Lox economy is a facade for a major disaster and its coming. This is no chicken little theory, it's the truth and some can't handle truth. They like being mis-guided and listen to FOX Noise. Last edited on Tue Sep 18th, 2007 11:51 am by Game_Over2007
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| That's pretty lame, if Youtube is one's news source.
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Some of FOX New's Billy O'Reilly humor. Is this guy for REAL? Does he think he's above reproach with his never-ending ego trip of being the "chosen one" on cable news?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqwFXQ11_i0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWNEkE1VYz8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el4Ne6mTWBc&mode=related&search=
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Well some would disagree with the assessment on FOX News ratings but when you deal in truth and forget the "spin" you have to laugh and bring in the clowns!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wOzCkWN5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15NbE-UvkyU&mode=related&search=
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Taos Eddy wrote: Now how much would you like to be that all those referenced believers in Flyrep's polling data are Fox Nows fans one and all?
Must be a helluva lot of them judging by their ratings. You keep listening to Soros, Rosie O'Donnell, Shawn Penn, Tim Robbins, Nancy Sheehan, et al.
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Yes, I guess I'm "obtuse" and "derailed" because the post was as clear as mud.
Sorry, I just couldn't figure that one out. 
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You'd need to be rather obtuse to be so completely derailed by a simple typo. The context made it pretty clear, I believe.
Punky wrote: Taos Eddy wrote:
Now how much would you like to bet that all those referenced believers in Flyrep's polling data are Fox News fans one and all?
Was that a question, or an attempted point to be made?
Added on edit: OK maybe not. Since there were two typos....
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Taos Eddy wrote:
Now how much would you like to be that all those referenced believers in Flyrep's polling data are Fox Nows fans one and all?
Was that a question, or an attempted point to be made?Last edited on Mon Sep 17th, 2007 07:21 pm by Punky
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Posted: Mon Sep 17th, 2007 05:05 pm |
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Punky wrote: Understandably, Fox News makes some people nervous. Their Fair and Balanced approach has revealed, and documented controversial news items, so called, "independent thinkers" wish to not discuss. Fair and Balanced........You Decide, or be told by the other cable news networks what you want to hear. It's America! Thank GOD we have choices!
(which fits in with our topic........REALITY)
Flyrep wrote this on another thread:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/iraq_connection_polhttp://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/insurgency_us_bribe_insurgents...
So one third of our countrymen think that Saddam H. was a part of 9-11 and the US now pays Sunni insurgents to fight Al Qaeda. So who is Al Qaeda" I know that they are not Shia Muslims.
Now how much would you like to be that all those referenced believers in Flyrep's polling data are Fox Nows fans one and all?
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Posted: Mon Sep 17th, 2007 11:13 am |
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Understandably, Fox News makes some people nervous. Their Fair and Balanced approach has revealed, and documented controversial news items, so called, "independent thinkers" wish to not discuss. Fair and Balanced........You Decide, or be told by the other cable news networks what you want to hear. It's America! Thank GOD we have choices!
(which fits in with our topic........REALITY)
Last edited on Mon Sep 17th, 2007 11:15 am by Punky
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