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 Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 03:48 pm
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Calm down with the bold print.  That's not what I'm saying.  I have no use for this president either but I don't agree with the gleeful reporting of the "collapse" of our economy.  Does that make me a "Bushie?"  You doomers have got to stop branding anyone who thinks other than you as Bush or administration or Republican supporters.  That's a moveon.org attack tactic. We have been in worse shape before and this nation rebounded and will rebound again, recession or not (which we are not officially in as of yet) .  Recessions are cyclical and nothing new.

"Ailing Economy"? What Ailing Economy?
Peter Goodman got front-page play for his report on an economy "imperiled by the crumbling housing market." But 3rd quarter GDP was 4.9%, highest in four years.

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Cobra what are you talking about?  OVER 70 percent of the country doesn't have any use for Bush and the famous acronym going around is "bushie".  I think to many of you on here get to wrapped up with your opinions trying to start trouble with others and you can't handle it when some have just one sided views and could care less about debating nonsense.   I don't waste my time on here much thank God and from what I've seen I won't do much more online.  Its boring and if I need to hear and read bull crap I'll just turn on the news for gloom and doom.  Get a life.

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Good article on the Republican Mortgage crisis.  Have a great day Angel even though you seem to get under peoples skin on here.  hahaha.... I enjoy your posts when ever...............

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Hmmmm, Angel.  Looks like you're the one with a pinched nerve.  All you do (along with this Game Over person) is to predict doom/gloom and gloat about your success.  Is that the purpose of your instituting this topic?  Your agenda is quite clear and the absurdity of your accusations reeks of demeaning anyone who disagrees with you (and Game Over) as branding them "Bushies."  BTW, you and Game Over signed on tp thios forum only weeks apart.  (August 4-August 18, 2007)Could he be your husband?  Your posts, mainly between you two, are practically identical.

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 Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 11:47 am
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Does this quote of yours ring a bell?

"Maybe your a public service worker with no cause to worry but many others are holding minimum wage jobs around here and they are struggling and in some cases working two jobs just to make ends meet while Corporate Exec's are getting filthy rich."

Guess you're one of those planning to get filthy rich off the foreclosures.  Have a nice life "Long Island Lulu". 


Your point CR Voter?  I take it I hit a nerve with you maybe?  You do have a long track record of calling others names on-line and I do think you have some issues with others making it in "life" financially!  My husband and I have been rather lucky and we do quite well investing as we go.  Our East Hampton property sold for a nice profit and now we are here in Delaware enjoying life.  I do think your one of those public servants who is jealous of others around you who seem to take risk and make money at it.  Your content with your mutual funds and your guaranteed state benefits and thats good.  I wish you well in life.  Don't put down others who can take risk and make money at it. 

What I said as you quoted me as saying is true.  I think those of you who have those secure jobs working for cities, counties, state and federal government could care less about those less fortunate to have those so called secure jobs.  So those people work their asses off and have to struggle in some cases with two jobs to make ends meet as corporate America takes advantage of them everyday.  I did not create the problem but I know the root of the problem and with those who support and think President Bush is the greatest thing for this economy.  It's rather funny to see the world markets doing what they are doing and here we set with an economy out of check and heading for a major recession.  Maybe this will help you out if you can comprehend the meaning of reality when it comes to greed from the top ruining the lives of millions of Americans who really work for a living.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D  Enjoy your day you jealous old man......

http://www.thedubyareport.com/economy4.html

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Have a nice time capitalizing on others misery.  Guess you can thank GWB for your good luck.  Welcome to Delaware.

Does this quote of yours ring a bell?

"Maybe your a public service worker with no cause to worry but many others are holding minimum wage jobs around here and they are struggling and in some cases working two jobs just to make ends meet while Corporate Exec's are getting filthy rich."

Guess you're one of those planning to get filthy rich off the foreclosures.  Have a nice life "Long Island Lulu". 

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No need to post my thoughts on here anymore.  I have better things to do with my time.  My hubby and I are enjoying our move here and life is good.  With the economy slowing down and the real estate market heading south, theirs a lot of money to be made with some nice homes coming on the market....  :)  :)

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You doomers and gloomers prove that underestimating the US economy is the new global financial sporting event, however, when you look at the world economies, Japan has not matched US growth rates for at least the last ten years.  Europe trots out the brass band when its growth rate hits 2.5%.  And for all the press they generate, China and India rank 34th and 48th in the World Economic Foprum's global competitiveness index.  The world has been counting out the US for as long as I can remember.  Wishing for it won't make it so.

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I wanted to give you something to read if you pick up the thread on vacation GO

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119638615868608863.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

Life is good.

Must be Angel is travelling with you, or you are one and the same?

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Hope you enjoy your vacation, I will.  Seriously though, have a great time and come back.  You're wrong but I love to get your goat.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2007 12:19 pm
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:D:D:D:D  SEE YOU NEXT YEAR

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Just a few tid bits..  Merry Christmas

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/24/magazines/fortune/eavis_conduits.fortune/index.htm

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/15/magazines/fortune/fannie_losses.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007111509

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/12/magazines/fortune/eavis_level3.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007111212

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/11/26/101232838/

 

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 Posted: Sun Nov 25th, 2007 10:26 pm
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It just gets better with time....

http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/10/bush-administrations-ties-to-blackwater.html

 

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 Posted: Sun Nov 25th, 2007 05:17 pm
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Bush and Silver?

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushwater.htm

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 Posted: Sun Nov 25th, 2007 05:14 pm
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http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2000/hunt_bros.html

http://www.wallstraits.com/main/viewarticle.php?id=1298

:D  Oil and Bush.... good combo

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On the contrary Fred, the majority of the traditional stock market volume is institutional buying.  The majority of futures trading is speculation.  Not that the traditional market isn't speculation, but there is a difference in trading companies and necessities.  Remember what the Bass Brothers did to the silver market?  It is only a matter of time before it happens to oil, and I can't think of a nicer group of individuals for it to happen to.

When traditional stocks decline it hurts the little guy.  When futures tumble, the consumer is the victor.

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 Posted: Sun Nov 25th, 2007 01:40 pm
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CR, I think, is trying to use the term "day trader" to include all those who speculate on the daily prices of stocks and commodities.   He may have a point, but without them, there would be no stock market.

 

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This is not the fault of the Current Administration, but rather the result of fools who day trade and bet on disaster.

Maybe those "fools" at the CBOE would like to talk to you CR Voter?

Give us more of an analysis of all your wisdom pertaining to Wall Street?  I want to know more!  Did I make a claim to know all about Day Trading?  I don't think so but I do enjoy bursting your bubble because your so predictable.  It doesn't take much to upset you and thats amusing.  :D 

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GO only thinks he knows what day trading means and who participates.  Here are the roots and the basis for my claims.  You are correct Fred, when the tech bubble burst under the Clinton Administration, most of the amateurs left.  Day trading encompasses the buying and selling of oil futures, as well as traditional stocks.  It is these "day traders" who gyrate the markets and have mostly driven the price of oil to an artificial high.

Fred wrote:
I wouldn't place the balme on day traders....they may have some effect on the market, but they can't be responsible for long term effects.

Hasn't day trading really fallen off in recent years? I know that in it's hayday, EVERYONE with a modem seemed to have a system and was trading....but the downturn in 2000 drove most people away, I thought.

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Individual day trading has no impact on anything.  The institutional run hedge funds and international ETFs are moving the markets today in ways we can't even imagine.  Five minutes into the close the DOW can change direction and have a 200 point move either way.  Selective trading has taken over with more emphasis on dividend paying companies in the mix.  You can play a few stocks all year that are predictable and make a lot of money.  :)  Options are your hedge to either side of the play.  :)

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I wouldn't place the balme on day traders....they may have some effect on the market, but they can't be responsible for long term effects.

Hasn't day trading really fallen off in recent years? I know that in it's hayday, EVERYONE with a modem seemed to have a system and was trading....but the downturn in 2000 drove most people away, I thought.

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Again CR Voter you seem to have hostility toward day traders.  I wonder why?  Do you consider "risk" scary and out of your comfort zone?  You need to take some risk and maybe smile!  Your to funny and so predictable.  :D:D

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Bixby..... I'm a happy man.  :D:D

I get the results I look for by just saying what has to be said.  If you don't like what I say, don't read my posts.  I really don't care.  I see things for what they really are and see through the culture of intellectual head bobbers and bobble heads using their play on words like others of the right wing mind-set.  When ever I need a real good laugh, I just turn on FOX Noise and listen to a few of the Chicken Hawks as they spread the Gospel of Bushism.  The real problem is most of you can't handle the truth about an INCOMPETENT White House administration with all its lies and corruption.  Maybe do yourself a favor and just ignore my posts.  I've seen enough of you so called intellectuals and masters of all knowledge to last me a lifetime.  I get a laugh with it all, so maybe preach to someone who really cares.  I don't.  :D:D  Enjoy your holiday season and have a Merry Christmas.  :):)

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This is not the fault of the Current Administration, but rather the result of fools who day trade and bet on disaster.

From AP:

"Its effect on consumption, its effect on future lending attitudes, could bring us close to the zero line in terms of economic growth," he said. "It does keep me up at night."
Some 2 million homeowners hold $600 billion of subprime adjustable-rate mortgage loans, known as ARMs, that are due to reset at higher amounts during the next eight months. Subprime loans are those made to people with poor credit. Not all these mortgages are in trouble, but homeowners who default or fall behind on payments could cause an economic shock of a type never seen before.
Some of the nation's leading economic minds lay out a scenario that is frightening. Not only would the next wave of the mortgage crisis force people out of their homes, it might also spiral throughout the economy.
The already severe housing slump would be exacerbated by even more empty homes on the market, causing prices to plunge by up to 40 percent in once-hot real estate spots such as California, Nevada and Florida. Builders like Chicago's Neumann Homes, which filed for bankruptcy protection this month, could go under. The top 10 global banks, which repackage loans into exotic securities such as collateralized debt obligations, or CDOs, could suffer far greater write-offs than the $75 billion already taken this year.

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Game_Over2007 wrote: :D:D  Post all you want about world economics and the "fuzzy math" associated with this Bush administration.  Real economists are calling for a recession and when you sit here defending all the fuzzy math, it makes you wonder as it's adjusted every week for what they want to here.  FOX Noise does a good job with that and they should be on the White House Payroll.  Maybe they are?  Two years ago you all thought real estate was hot and it would never end.  Well guess what?  It did and now a lot of you are paying the price for GREED.  It's sad you all got engulfed in this mess but life is risk and then you pay the piper.  If you don't like what I post so be it.  It's called freedom of speech and some need to wake up.  I paid for that RIGHT.  GWB and his VP never did.  You enjoy your holiday season for what its all worth.  We're going to Vegas to do some "gambling" and then to Hawaii for a month.  Enjoy your intellectual right wing ideas and just remember ONE MORE YEAR OF BUSH.  :D:D
Then I take it that your presumption is that anyone who has a different view of what you call "fuzzy math" is a defender and supporter of the Bush admin.?  And by reading your posts are we further to presume that everyone but you is in a financial bind?  And an even further presumption is that everyone (other than you) has "intellectual right wing" ideas?  Then are we to presume that you engender left wing ideas?  BTW, no one that I read here challenged your freedom of speech. You sound like the last angry man.:P

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For you Chicken Hawks out there.... Merry Christmas.... Our men and women are fighting for YOU.....

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/02/19/fox_news_chickenhawks_dodge_iraq_war_debate_like_its_military_service.php

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/03/28/fox_news_chickenhawks_exploit_british_captives_to_beat_iran_war_drums.php

http://www.crooksandliars.com/category/fox-news/fox-news-sundaychris-wallace/

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:D:D  Post all you want about world economics and the "fuzzy math" associated with this Bush administration.  Real economists are calling for a recession and when you sit here defending all the fuzzy math, it makes you wonder as it's adjusted every week for what they want to here.  FOX Noise does a good job with that and they should be on the White House Payroll.  Maybe they are?  Two years ago you all thought real estate was hot and it would never end.  Well guess what?  It did and now a lot of you are paying the price for GREED.  It's sad you all got engulfed in this mess but life is risk and then you pay the piper.  If you don't like what I post so be it.  It's called freedom of speech and some need to wake up.  I paid for that RIGHT.  GWB and his VP never did.  You enjoy your holiday season for what its all worth.  We're going to Vegas to do some "gambling" and then to Hawaii for a month.  Enjoy your intellectual right wing ideas and just remember ONE MORE YEAR OF BUSH.  :D:D

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Jurisprudence wrote: It is interesting to note that this particular forum topic is dominated by one or two individuals who mainly post one after another without much interaction from many other posters.  The main theme besides portraying doom and gloom is to discredit the current administration by any means or reason. 
 

Thus, my friend, the reason for your conclusion in your first sentence.

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It is interesting to note that this particular forum topic is dominated by one or two individuals who mainly post one after another without much interaction from many other posters.  The main theme besides portraying doom and gloom is to discredit the current administration by any means or reason.  There are some points I would like to offe4r that are not reconciled by any information.

Recently Petro-China, an oil company wholly owned by the Chinese government, far outpaced Exxon, America’s rival company and was declared as the world’s most valuable company..  On the day that this happened, George Soros predicted a total collapse of the US economy and was inevitable, a scenario embraced by the main posters here.  In the same vein, others are calling the US as the “next Argentina.”  According to you doomers, any time the financial markets have a bad week, you cheerfully embrace the demise of the US economy.

It is a given that there is much push and pull in today’s markets, but we have been here many times before. Despite the constant prediction of the demise of our economy, (remember Harry Figgie's "Bankruptcy USA 1995?) mainly because of the credit crisis and housing market collapse, the numbers indicate otherwise regarding the overall picture.

For instance, the US economy grew 3.9% in the third quarter following a 3.1% increase in the second quarter, despite the constant links posted about the credit turmoil. This figure represents the equivalent of adding a new Saudi Arabia economy to our economy since the beginning of April.

I must also point out that the World Economic Forum rated the US economy as the MOST COMPETITIVE ECONOMY IN THE WORLD.  I did not notice that in any of the links posted here.

So while you point out the high economic growth of developing nations, the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) measured us as the world’s wealthiest nation.  No one even comes close. The GDP projected us to be $13.22 trillion which translates that our economy is as large as the next four largest world economies combined. (Japan, Germany, China and the UK) This does not mean that we aree in the best shape we can be.  It can (and will) be better.

I can understand your hatred for the current president but whatever numbers or links you post up does not change these facts.      

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Some more good news for the area....... just makes me wonder anymore

http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=7394307

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FOX NEWS AT ITS BEST..... EXPOSED

http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/fox-news-exposed-by-employees/

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/10/09/oreillys_double_standards_exposed_again.php

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Even Europe is having issues with the mortgage bonds.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/22/news/international/europe_covered_bonds/index.htm?postversion=2007112209

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Fred I see no point in pumping the market on a 200 point gain when its not real.  I see traders everyday on my trading screen playing with trades, so I'm in safe mode for the holidays and see more downside which I will post on because this runs real deep and all the TV pundits who always know whats going on called it wrong months ago and now their exposed for the fools they are and more.  The "herds" who follow these yahoos who have vested interest making it look great are doing more harm than good.  Who ever inherits this mess will have to take a course on "insanity" because we have a real problem now and its going to get a lot worse.  If your on the sidelines with money, stay there.

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Please show me where I said the market was doing well...what I said was that you post on the days that it goes down, but neglect to mention it when it goes up.

The economy is fragile, and it would not surprise me to see a major correction at some point. It would also not surprise me for it to take a while to hit, so that it may well meander along for another year or so, and then crap out about January 2008, making it the next President's fault.

CR did point out something a while ago about saying, in effect, screw the Chinese.  There is an old saying (that I will update) that says that if you owe the bank $1,000, you have a problem...but if you owe the bank 1 Trillion, the bank has a problem. The Chinese may well be in that situation right now...their investment in the dollar has dropped about 17% since the beginning of the year, but if they were to sell more, they know their investment would drop like a rock, so they are somewhat stuck with their investment, for now.

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The market goes up and it goes down but one thing you fail to realize is that the hedge funds can move these markets on a dime with the new electronic trading platforms.  This market is driven by these big boys and what has put them all in a bind is that they can't seem to move the market because of the underlying slime in sub prime banking corruption...... It runs deep and its world wide.... The FED can't fix it and the market will correct itself without anyones help.... but remember this a a global based economy and others will pay too..... the weak dollar is going to bite us and "they" know it...... so when you say the market is doing well..... read between the lines Fred..... Its not..... the real estate bubble everybody said was not turned out to be just like the NAZ 5000 crash over seven years ago and this is not over.... the market upticks are a joke at market closes and the "dumb money" gets suckered in again....

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There is no doubt that we were led by the nose into this war, with misleading data, and misleading speeches. I think it is very interesting how they have been hyping every little success, and ignoring major problems over there.

However, GO, I believe that you have to be fair and accurate when you post criticism. I notice, for instance, that you post every time the stock market drops a few points....but you don't do the same when it goes up. For instance, after the Chinese wondered out loud this week about how much longer they would hold on to the dollar, I expected the market to drop....but I believe it actually gained that day.

Getting back to Scott,  you have to actually read what is in the quote, not what is in the headline.... which is consistant with what he has said earlier.

There is nothing new about the quote. It is part of a plan to hype the book...it happens every time an administration official leaves, and usually it is a disapointment that there is a lot less in the book then was teased.

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Fred I do believe your somewhere else when it comes to reality with George Walker Bush.  Time lines have been proved with all this mess and I'm sure this is going to get some fire under it as times passes.  Truth prevails and this administration is guilty of misleading this country into war. 

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Game_Over2007 wrote: LIAR LIAR NEWS

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/20/cia.leak.mcclellan/index.html


The problem is, GO, is that there is nothing new in the quote.  All he is saying is that he passed on information that turned out to be true...and he has, in past interviews, said that he believed the President gave him information the President thought was true.

Whether or not it is true or not is besides the point....the quote does not really support the headline.

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http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/general/2007/11/20/CIA.Leak.McClellan/?cvqh=itn_mcclellan

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LIAR LIAR NEWS

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/20/cia.leak.mcclellan/index.html

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Things just keep getting better under the LIAR LIAR economy and now we all pay for TOTAL INCOMPETENCE AND TOTAL STUPIDITY.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/11/26/101232838/index.htm?postversion=2007111212

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/15/magazines/fortune/fannie_losses.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007111509

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Now we can post the truth about the administration leadership of corruption and LIES..... Proving once again George Walker Bush is the worse President in U S History.....

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=&from=00&vid=ff09cc12-6ed2-4243-86e2-795df7df676d&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:News_Editors%20Picks:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A


http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=&from=00&vid=ff09cc12-6ed2-4243-86e2-795df7df676d&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:News_Editors%20Picks:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A

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THIS SAYS IT ALL FOR YOU RIGHT WINGERS WHO THINK THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THIS COUNTRY.  BY FAR THE WORSE PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD OR IN FACT WILL EVER HAVE.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21903753/

 

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Legends, I've been saying this all along about the US economy, but for some on here it puts them in total denial when it comes to reality.  We have an incompetent man running this country, a federal reserve who caters to the financial pundits on Wall Street with a Bush Cronie running the US Treasury!  Money was made to easy to get and now we all pay for this facade.  It's going to get a lot worse when we're seeing oil future calls in the options trade talking 160 plus.  We did it to ourselves and a lot of people will get hurt.  This is the tip of the iceberge.  :D

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071120/fed_forecast.html

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071120/fed_minutes.html

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071120/oil_prices.html

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/20/news/companies/freddiemac/index.htm

HAPPY THANKSGIVING  :D

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This don't look to good either.  My god what is going on?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071120/earns_freddie_mac.html

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Another thing to think about when you jump into the water of risk....

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/19/news/economy/homebuilders/index.htm?postversion=2007111913

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Nice day on Wall Street.  :D

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/19/news/international/oil_opec/index.htm

Last edited on Mon Nov 19th, 2007 11:30 pm by Game_Over2007

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Xmas rally?  haha  Worse is yet to come...... GOLDILOCKS IS DEAD MR BUSH

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071118/NEWS/711180368/1003/BUSINESS

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iX9fLTOpmlsstkmiryfTbwDovc0QD8SKVDCG0

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Business/Worse-to-come-for-US-subprime-mess/2007/11/14/1194766772321.html

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Fred wrote: It is hard to compare eras, but even harder to compare personalities of the various eras.  

That is a understatement.

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Sign of the times ?

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/19/news/companies/bc.apfn.citigroup.aheado.ap/index.htm?postversion=2007111908

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/16/real_estate/suprime_and_crime/index.htm?postversion=2007111908

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/19/news/international/swiss_re.ap/index.htm?postversion=2007111905

 


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