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 Posted: Sat Nov 29th, 2008 06:30 pm
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No wonder the state budget is in crisis!

Fine example of hiring people who don't use common sense.

Person loses job thru cut's in June making little less then 800.00 a month , so they can have medical benefits thru the state .

Now when person loses job they have to apply for unemployment until they find another , this gives them less then 500.00 a month so they are still eligible for state medical help because they are well below the 800.00 per month.

But the person who runs the computer at night decides to add the 800.00 figure that person was making in June to the un-employment ( 500.00 )  they made in November,to get a total of 1300.00 and now they are no longer eligible for medical assistance .

Easily fix you may say , heh heh heh .

Well the two employees can't or won't use the phone or walk down the hall from Unemployment to Social Services ( 15 steps ) citing the HIPA law. The law did not stop them from sending the information by computer in the middle of the night.

Social worker claims she can't call the place of work to verify that person is no longer there, the very same place she called in June .

The unemployment office claims they can't send Social Service information , but the do so each night.

Governor office is laying low and being the lame duck they always have been in the past 8 years. 

Just think of the money we would save getting rid of all the lame duck employees that work for the state.

 







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There is tons of wasteful spending in every agency in the state, every small town in America, every major city in America, and Washington D.C.   As for education in our state-cuts can definately be made in DE.  However, some cuts you propose stem from federal mandates and can't simply be done away with.  (DSTP-NCLB mandates a state testing sysytem must be in place).  Whether a state agency or a private company-wasteful spending must be eliminated.  Some administrators can and should be eliminated but to say anyone making over 75K in schools should be eliminated is not fair.   People in education (or any tax payed position) don't get near the salary that others do in privatized positions.  Lots of individuals in private sector jobs with less education make more than those in state/federal positions. 

How about telling the auto execs and the UAW to tell their employees the same...here is what we have left to pay you, take it or leave it.  They have been overpaid for decades and the consumers have paid for it.  Why not get down to budget basics and get real?

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Hartlyboy wrote:  Didn't you read the caveat about whiny bedwetters?

I thought he had something legal in mind. I would love to see someone actually suggest something that would save us a lot of money and that was also doable.

I was rooting for him.

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GNU wrote: Disgusted wrote: OK, GNU, here's what I would do.  Yes, it's draconian.  And, it is offered with no apology to any whiny bedwetter who may be offended at the idea that people actually have to "get 'er done" and be accountable.

1. Don't put in any legislative or elective office any Democrat.  Republican, Libertarian, Constitutionalist, Independent, OK.  But, as has often been demonstrated and we are finding out with the views of President-elect Obama and other Donkeyites...

DEMOCRAT = SECULAR PROGRESSIVE = SOCIALIST = COMMUNIST = TYRANNIST = WHINY LEFTIST BEDWETTER.  (Note expansion of the old, and 100% factual, saying.)

2.
  Eliminate the State Department of Education.  Each school district applies to the legislature for funding on its own merits.

3.  End the DSTP.  As I have before stated on these pages, have all core subject teachers prepare their final exam and get it OK'd by their department coordinator and/or school principal before the onset of the school year.  Then, on the first day of class, show it to all students, and emphasize that they will be hald responsible for everything on the exam, even if the teacher doesn't discuss it in class.  Therefore. it's imperative that the students cooperate with the teacher so that he/she can cover the required material.

4.  Admit to public high schools only those students who, thru grades K thru 8, have not been major discipline problems and who have at least made an effort at learning.  Kids will be kids and there will be issues as they grow, and not every child learns every subject at the same pace.  But they have to generally behave and try.  Major troublemakers who have never earned above a C on a report card in any subject need to be shown the door after 8th grade.  Why should my taxes be dedicated towards their noncaring?

5.  In high school, those who do not perform, and/or who become discipline problems, should be expelled.  Failing two core courses in consecutive school years should be the nonperformance standard.

For anyone who may believe that the above are too strict, ask yourself why we need to have police officers on duty in Delaware public schools on a daily basis.  Answer: because poor parenting has resulted in many kids being present who are so undisciplined that no teacher or principal can handle them. 

6. Course emphasis should be on sciences, mathematics, American history, and English.  In high school, all should be taught on a college preparatory level.  The latter two can be team taught, with the history being the basis for English assignments.  Classical literature can be learned thru parents or in clubs.  Many students like history, and a thorough knowledge is proper preparation for the future.  There's no time to teach fiction.  

Other areas of instruction, such as art and home economics, can be taught in after-school clubs.  Eliminate drivers' education, too.  That can be offered thru driving schools, the YMCA, or DMV.  In all cases, parents would have to pay for the instruction, which might take a lot of teen drivers off the road better than raising the driving age, and those who are there may have had to pay back their parents, and would take it seriously and drive better once they're licensed. 

7.  End interscholastic athletic programs.  Simply put, every student should be taking gym classes and be part of an intramural sports program within the school.  That way, more students can actually play the game, and you lessen the "jockocracy" that exists in high schools. 

(Incidentally, I'd end intercollegiate athletics, too.  Intramural sports within the school lets more participate, greatly lessens the "jockocracy addy-tood" and would put out of existence the NCAA.  Schools and colleges are educational institutions, not the "minor leagues" for the NFL and NBA.)

I'm a sports fan, but most high school and college athletes never even get to smell a pro team contract.  And of those who get such a contract, fewer have successful pro careers.  You have to earn a living.

8.  Ensure that each building has a preventive maintenance program in place and is followed.  This would be one of the benchmarks the legislature would have to measure in the yearly appropriations process.  Here in Dover, the Central Middle School gym, built in 1939, was recently torn down because it was allowed to fall into excessive disrepair.  That should not have happened.

For openers, the above is what I'd do.

 


Now maybe you could try telling us what you'd do that would not run afoul of the law. For instance, the State of Delaware cannot simply refuse to teach children.
 Didn't you read the caveat about whiny bedwetters?

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Disgusted wrote: OK, GNU, here's what I would do.  Yes, it's draconian.  And, it is offered with no apology to any whiny bedwetter who may be offended at the idea that people actually have to "get 'er done" and be accountable.

1. Don't put in any legislative or elective office any Democrat.  Republican, Libertarian, Constitutionalist, Independent, OK.  But, as has often been demonstrated and we are finding out with the views of President-elect Obama and other Donkeyites...

DEMOCRAT = SECULAR PROGRESSIVE = SOCIALIST = COMMUNIST = TYRANNIST = WHINY LEFTIST BEDWETTER.  (Note expansion of the old, and 100% factual, saying.)

2.
  Eliminate the State Department of Education.  Each school district applies to the legislature for funding on its own merits.

3.  End the DSTP.  As I have before stated on these pages, have all core subject teachers prepare their final exam and get it OK'd by their department coordinator and/or school principal before the onset of the school year.  Then, on the first day of class, show it to all students, and emphasize that they will be hald responsible for everything on the exam, even if the teacher doesn't discuss it in class.  Therefore. it's imperative that the students cooperate with the teacher so that he/she can cover the required material.

4.  Admit to public high schools only those students who, thru grades K thru 8, have not been major discipline problems and who have at least made an effort at learning.  Kids will be kids and there will be issues as they grow, and not every child learns every subject at the same pace.  But they have to generally behave and try.  Major troublemakers who have never earned above a C on a report card in any subject need to be shown the door after 8th grade.  Why should my taxes be dedicated towards their noncaring?

5.  In high school, those who do not perform, and/or who become discipline problems, should be expelled.  Failing two core courses in consecutive school years should be the nonperformance standard.

For anyone who may believe that the above are too strict, ask yourself why we need to have police officers on duty in Delaware public schools on a daily basis.  Answer: because poor parenting has resulted in many kids being present who are so undisciplined that no teacher or principal can handle them. 

6. Course emphasis should be on sciences, mathematics, American history, and English.  In high school, all should be taught on a college preparatory level.  The latter two can be team taught, with the history being the basis for English assignments.  Classical literature can be learned thru parents or in clubs.  Many students like history, and a thorough knowledge is proper preparation for the future.  There's no time to teach fiction.  

Other areas of instruction, such as art and home economics, can be taught in after-school clubs.  Eliminate drivers' education, too.  That can be offered thru driving schools, the YMCA, or DMV.  In all cases, parents would have to pay for the instruction, which might take a lot of teen drivers off the road better than raising the driving age, and those who are there may have had to pay back their parents, and would take it seriously and drive better once they're licensed. 

7.  End interscholastic athletic programs.  Simply put, every student should be taking gym classes and be part of an intramural sports program within the school.  That way, more students can actually play the game, and you lessen the "jockocracy" that exists in high schools. 

(Incidentally, I'd end intercollegiate athletics, too.  Intramural sports within the school lets more participate, greatly lessens the "jockocracy addy-tood" and would put out of existence the NCAA.  Schools and colleges are educational institutions, not the "minor leagues" for the NFL and NBA.)

I'm a sports fan, but most high school and college athletes never even get to smell a pro team contract.  And of those who get such a contract, fewer have successful pro careers.  You have to earn a living.

8.  Ensure that each building has a preventive maintenance program in place and is followed.  This would be one of the benchmarks the legislature would have to measure in the yearly appropriations process.  Here in Dover, the Central Middle School gym, built in 1939, was recently torn down because it was allowed to fall into excessive disrepair.  That should not have happened.

For openers, the above is what I'd do.

 


Now maybe you could try telling us what you'd do that would not run afoul of the law. For instance, the State of Delaware cannot simply refuse to teach children.

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OK, GNU, here's what I would do.  Yes, it's draconian.  And, it is offered with no apology to any whiny bedwetter who may be offended at the idea that people actually have to "get 'er done" and be accountable.

1. Don't put in any legislative or elective office any Democrat.  Republican, Libertarian, Constitutionalist, Independent, OK.  But, as has often been demonstrated and we are finding out with the views of President-elect Obama and other Donkeyites...

DEMOCRAT = SECULAR PROGRESSIVE = SOCIALIST = COMMUNIST = TYRANNIST = WHINY LEFTIST BEDWETTER.  (Note expansion of the old, and 100% factual, saying.)

2.
  Eliminate the State Department of Education.  Each school district applies to the legislature for funding on its own merits.

3.  End the DSTP.  As I have before stated on these pages, have all core subject teachers prepare their final exam and get it OK'd by their department coordinator and/or school principal before the onset of the school year.  Then, on the first day of class, show it to all students, and emphasize that they will be hald responsible for everything on the exam, even if the teacher doesn't discuss it in class.  Therefore. it's imperative that the students cooperate with the teacher so that he/she can cover the required material.

4.  Admit to public high schools only those students who, thru grades K thru 8, have not been major discipline problems and who have at least made an effort at learning.  Kids will be kids and there will be issues as they grow, and not every child learns every subject at the same pace.  But they have to generally behave and try.  Major troublemakers who have never earned above a C on a report card in any subject need to be shown the door after 8th grade.  Why should my taxes be dedicated towards their noncaring?

5.  In high school, those who do not perform, and/or who become discipline problems, should be expelled.  Failing two core courses in consecutive school years should be the nonperformance standard.

For anyone who may believe that the above are too strict, ask yourself why we need to have police officers on duty in Delaware public schools on a daily basis.  Answer: because poor parenting has resulted in many kids being present who are so undisciplined that no teacher or principal can handle them. 

6. Course emphasis should be on sciences, mathematics, American history, and English.  In high school, all should be taught on a college preparatory level.  The latter two can be team taught, with the history being the basis for English assignments.  Classical literature can be learned thru parents or in clubs.  Many students like history, and a thorough knowledge is proper preparation for the future.  There's no time to teach fiction.  

Other areas of instruction, such as art and home economics, can be taught in after-school clubs.  Eliminate drivers' education, too.  That can be offered thru driving schools, the YMCA, or DMV.  In all cases, parents would have to pay for the instruction, which might take a lot of teen drivers off the road better than raising the driving age, and those who are there may have had to pay back their parents, and would take it seriously and drive better once they're licensed. 

7.  End interscholastic athletic programs.  Simply put, every student should be taking gym classes and be part of an intramural sports program within the school.  That way, more students can actually play the game, and you lessen the "jockocracy" that exists in high schools. 

(Incidentally, I'd end intercollegiate athletics, too.  Intramural sports within the school lets more participate, greatly lessens the "jockocracy addy-tood" and would put out of existence the NCAA.  Schools and colleges are educational institutions, not the "minor leagues" for the NFL and NBA.)

I'm a sports fan, but most high school and college athletes never even get to smell a pro team contract.  And of those who get such a contract, fewer have successful pro careers.  You have to earn a living.

8.  Ensure that each building has a preventive maintenance program in place and is followed.  This would be one of the benchmarks the legislature would have to measure in the yearly appropriations process.  Here in Dover, the Central Middle School gym, built in 1939, was recently torn down because it was allowed to fall into excessive disrepair.  That should not have happened.

For openers, the above is what I'd do.

 

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Disgusted wrote: Any idiot knows that the Education Budget can be halved with absolutely no negative classroom effects.  That's because there so much pork in the field.

All Legislators and the Governor and Lieutenant Governor should serve for 1/4 of their current salaries.  Too many people in legislative and high public executive positions are horse thieves to begin with.

And, we also know that raising taxes and fees DECREASES revenue.  If government needs more funds to support its operations, tax rates need to be DECREASED to encourage business establishment and expansion, and the hiring of more employees, which creates more taxpayers.

(Hey, at least here in Delaware we don't have top execs coming to the legislature in ultra-customized private jet airplanes crying and begging for tax money to bail out their failing business so that they can still "live the high life."   WAAAAAAA!)

Why don't you tell us specifically how you could cut the education budget in half with absolutely no negative classroom effects. If you can make a clear and reasonable case, you might be able to get others to join you in pushing for it.

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Any idiot knows that the Education Budget can be halved with absolutely no negative classroom effects.  That's because there so much pork in the field.

All Legislators and the Governor and Lieutenant Governor should serve for 1/4 of their current salaries.  Too many people in legislative and high public executive positions are horse thieves to begin with.

And, we also know that raising taxes and fees DECREASES revenue.  If government needs more funds to support its operations, tax rates need to be DECREASED to encourage business establishment and expansion, and the hiring of more employees, which creates more taxpayers.

(Hey, at least here in Delaware we don't have top execs coming to the legislature in ultra-customized private jet airplanes crying and begging for tax money to bail out their failing business so that they can still "live the high life."   WAAAAAAA!)

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Ben , what sort of things were you counting as "unconstitional handouts" that added up to 57 million?

BTW, the latest unemployment reports indicate government and education employment in Delaware is up a couple of thousand jobs. Doesn't sound like they are really all that worried about having money to pay more people. There is always another fee to institute..

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GNU wrote: Good schools start with good parents. I don't care what you spend on education, unless parents are willing to hold their children accountable, nothing will work. Parenting is not a part time job and your child is not a prince or princess.
Welcome to amerika.

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Good schools start with good parents. I don't care what you spend on education, unless parents are willing to hold their children accountable, nothing will work. Parenting is not a part time job and your child is not a prince or princess.

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Hartlyboy wrote: It amazes me that in these times of extraordinary budget concerns, we meekly accept that there can be no cuts in the legislative, judicial or education budgets. The education system is almost 1/3 of the budget for cryin' out loud! We can cut 'fat' from admin budgets elsewhere and consolidate state hospitals down to Smyrna, etc. , but $120 million is a lot to make up when you take big chunks of expenditures off the table.

I wonder if any of the shortfall can be made up by volunteers doing either auditing or assisting the current workforce carry on? There are a lot of competent retirees who might be willing to pitch in during a crisis and maybe unemployed people could be used and be able to get a break on extended unemployment benefits. That might not be workable, but we really need to start thinking outside the box with the magnitude of what we have facing us.

I agree lets start with cutting all the unconstitutional hand outs. I believe that total was 57 Million. So now were down to a short fall of only 63 million. In fact if its not a specifically enumerated power in the states constitution then the state needs to cut it out.

 Next we fire all the administrators making over say 75K then we hire people to do the same job for less. You know just like a real business that cant steal its capitol from everyone.

close and sell the museum properties. IE the DSP and agricultural museum here in dover. Who gives a frag about them? then sell those 40 or so cop cars sitting behind the museum.

NO ONE gets to take home a state vehicle. I dont get paid for travel back and forth to work and I shouldnt be paying for anyone else to do the same. Now we might have to xclude certain cops.

Tell all insurance companies doing business in the state they will provide the state will top quality but bottom priced insurance or they can go elsewhere.

How about we let everyone out of jail who is in there due to drug charges. Non-violent offenders of course. Thats 60K per prisoner per year. That should also help reduce the amount of over time for the dept. of corrections.

Make Kraft give back the 708K Fat arse ruth ann gave to them. Make all corps pay back any tax money handed to them this year! its unconstitutional period no discussion needed.

thats just off the top of my head

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It amazes me that in these times of extraordinary budget concerns, we meekly accept that there can be no cuts in the legislative, judicial or education budgets. The education system is almost 1/3 of the budget for cryin' out loud! We can cut 'fat' from admin budgets elsewhere and consolidate state hospitals down to Smyrna, etc. , but $120 million is a lot to make up when you take big chunks of expenditures off the table.

I wonder if any of the shortfall can be made up by volunteers doing either auditing or assisting the current workforce carry on? There are a lot of competent retirees who might be willing to pitch in during a crisis and maybe unemployed people could be used and be able to get a break on extended unemployment benefits. That might not be workable, but we really need to start thinking outside the box with the magnitude of what we have facing us.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:  Tough choices ahead

State officials face arduous task of budget cuts


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


DOVER — After slashing agency budgets earlier this year to address revenue shortfalls, state officials said Tuesday that meeting the governor’s calls for 7-percent reductions this year and 15-percent cuts in fiscal 2010 would be extremely difficult and likely would impact state services.


Gov. Ruth Ann Minner on Monday reinstituted a hiring freeze and ordered state agencies to identify the budget cuts after learning that state revenue estimates for two years have plummeted $455.4 million.


"On top of last year’s cuts, we can’t get to either of those numbers without service cuts," said Secretary of Health and Social Services Vincent P. Meconi.


"In our department, we deal in direct services to people, so there’s not much administrative slack in the budget."


Although he declined to share what some of the affected services could be, Mr. Meconi said one proposal he will put forth would involve closing the Gov. Bacon Health Center in Delaware City and the Emily P. Bissell Hospital in Wilmington.


"It doesn’t make sense to keep open those two white-elephant facilities while at the same time cutting direct health care services to vulnerable people," Mr. Meconi said.


"We can take all the patients from Bissell and Bacon, and with minor renovations, put them all at (Delaware Hospital for the Chronically Ill in Smyrna). There’s enough space, and it would result in no loss of jobs — we need all of the staff for the patients."


Mr. Meconi said he has proposed this twice before, but with a projected $3 million annual saving, it probably will get more traction this year.


However, that is a drop in the bucket for an agency like Department of Health and Social Services with a $900 million budget that needs to cut more than $60 million.


Other state offices already have started looking for areas to cut.


"This is a huge challenge for us," said Secretary of Safety and Homeland Security David B. Mitchell. "We have already begun to re-evaluate our programs.


"We are working to identify what purchases that we planned to make can we delay, and what purchases can we just do without. Even given the critical nature of public safety, we’re not exempt from these cuts."


While Mr. Mitchell said cutting employees is a last resort, he did not rule it out. The department, he said, would look at reducing training, travel, purchases, maintenance and vehicles before turning to workers.


"We have a ways to go before we get into programs and staffing," he said. "Fortunately, we had some prosperous years under this administration, and we’ll just have to lean on that now."


The department already had forgone the replacement of 30 police cruisers this year and has built that into its fiscal 2010 budget request, and Delaware State Police delayed the start of a new police academy recruit class to save funds.


Mr. Mitchell said he expects the current recruit class, which is under way, to continue.


Department of Transportation spokesman Darrel Cole said the agency has been preparing for potential budget cuts before the revenue estimates were announced Monday.


He noted that although DelDOT largely is funded through the Transportation Trust Fund, the agency is "feeling the pinch" because Division of Motor Vehicle fees are lower than expected due to fewer people buying cars and fewer vehicles traveling through the tolls.


The 7 percent in budget cuts the governor ordered for fiscal 2009 are expected to generate between $130 million-$180 million in savings, which would put the state back in the black. With Monday’s projection of a $151.7 million decrease in revenues this year, expenditures are now greater than revenues.


While public safety is not exempt, Gov. Minner’s 7-percent-cut edict does not apply to public education or higher education, nor does it impact the legislative or judicial branches.


Delaware Supreme Court Chief Justice Myron T. Steele was out of the office Tuesday and not available for comment.


Senate President Pro Tempore Sen. Thurman G. Adams, D-Bridgeville, said that although the governor’s budget cuts don’t affect the legislature, the General Assembly should be part of the solution.


"We need to do what we can," Sen. Adams said Tuesday. "We’ve got difficult decisions ahead and we all have to do our part. We’ve got to share everything equally."


A state senator since 1972, Sen. Adams said this is one of the worst economic downturns he has seen.


"I’m not sure if the winners (of the Nov. 4 election) really are the winners," he said. "The losers might be the winners."


Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com.

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countrynow wrote: Playing the Game wrote: You are talking chicken feed Fred.  The cuts need to be large and deep into entitlements and DelDOT.  DelDOT should be outsourced.  You don't need a state bureaucracy to maintain roads and bridges.  Let private industry bid on maintenance and design.

Consolidate school districts now, Eliminate the departmental education staff and outsource it.  Why does the Department of Finance need an educational staff that duplicates the one in every State Department?

The fat is so thick in state government, you can't even get to the meat.


DELDOT  should  be  priority  #1.  This  agency  of  our  state  government  has  been  audited  several  times  over  and  its'  record  of  action  (or  inaction,  depending  upon  how  you  look  at  it)  is  absolutely  horrendous.  Everyone  from  legislators  to  residents  to  business  partners  through  out  the  state  are  aware  of  the  age  old  problems  within  DELDOT.  For  this  agency  in  particular,  outsourcing  might  be  just  about  the  only  way  to  contain  costs  and  function  efficiently.   The  state  hospital  is  another,  which  was  again,  just  recently  audited,  with  regards  to  the  record  keeping  and  accounting  of  private  patient  funds.  The  issues  there,  seem  to  point  directly  to  poor  management  with  very  little  supervision  or  oversight.  Prior  to  that,  there  were  problems  there  with  regards  to  overtime  payments  (extremely  large  ones)  made  to  staff  members.  That  happened  at  DELDOT,  as  well.    The  other  agency,  I  feel,  which  needs  revision  is  DNREC.  A  recent  proposal  has  been  to  split  DNREC  into  two.  One  arm  being  the  regulatory,  the  other  being  the  environmental.  I  don't  know  if  that  is  the  answer,  but  something  definitly  needs  to  occur  to  correct  alot  of  "in-fighting"  that  results  in  extra  expense  to  the  state.  Well,  call  this  a  "Wish  List"  and  You  are  correct,  PTG,  when  you  say  "The  fat  is  so  thick  in  state  government,  you  can't  even  get  to  the  meat."   Must  be  that  we  all  really  like  that  fat.

 


Indeed the core of the issue is lack of oversite. Our employees dont give a darn how much of our money they waste cos they know the legislature will just try and suck more out of us. When are we going to stand up and demand accountability and civillian oversite.

These bozos do things that would get CEO's fire for incompetancy and nothing ever happens to them. No doubt cos delaware is just one big political fifdom. THE STATE IS THE SINGLE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN MOST STATES, except Hawaii where the federal gov is. Thats a problem.

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Playing the Game wrote: You are talking chicken feed Fred.  The cuts need to be large and deep into entitlements and DelDOT.  DelDOT should be outsourced.  You don't need a state bureaucracy to maintain roads and bridges.  Let private industry bid on maintenance and design.

Consolidate school districts now, Eliminate the departmental education staff and outsource it.  Why does the Department of Finance need an educational staff that duplicates the one in every State Department?

The fat is so thick in state government, you can't even get to the meat.


DELDOT  should  be  priority  #1.  This  agency  of  our  state  government  has  been  audited  several  times  over  and  its'  record  of  action  (or  inaction,  depending  upon  how  you  look  at  it)  is  absolutely  horrendous.  Everyone  from  legislators  to  residents  to  business  partners  through  out  the  state  are  aware  of  the  age  old  problems  within  DELDOT.  For  this  agency  in  particular,  outsourcing  might  be  just  about  the  only  way  to  contain  costs  and  function  efficiently.   The  state  hospital  is  another,  which  was  again,  just  recently  audited,  with  regards  to  the  record  keeping  and  accounting  of  private  patient  funds.  The  issues  there,  seem  to  point  directly  to  poor  management  with  very  little  supervision  or  oversight.  Prior  to  that,  there  were  problems  there  with  regards  to  overtime  payments  (extremely  large  ones)  made  to  staff  members.  That  happened  at  DELDOT,  as  well.    The  other  agency,  I  feel,  which  needs  revision  is  DNREC.  A  recent  proposal  has  been  to  split  DNREC  into  two.  One  arm  being  the  regulatory,  the  other  being  the  environmental.  I  don't  know  if  that  is  the  answer,  but  something  definitly  needs  to  occur  to  correct  alot  of  "in-fighting"  that  results  in  extra  expense  to  the  state.  Well,  call  this  a  "Wish  List"  and  You  are  correct,  PTG,  when  you  say  "The  fat  is  so  thick  in  state  government,  you  can't  even  get  to  the  meat."   Must  be  that  we  all  really  like  that  fat.

 

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 02:32 am
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There are certainly administrative costs that could be consolidated throughout the state. If the state hired competent people there would be no need for outsourcing. State workers tend to be either excellent or over their heads. There are too many games going on when it comes to hiring state employees.

Before I started cutting, I'd want to do an analysis of every agency. Some are functioning better than others. Big knee jerk reactions tend to do more harm than good.

The blame for what we are seeing can certainly be shared. However the destruction of our economy has been done on the federal level. This administration in Washington has to take the lion's share of the responsibility for what is happening.

On a state level, the current administration has not done its job. That's what happens when you elect a puppet.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 01:30 am
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You are talking chicken feed Fred.  The cuts need to be large and deep into entitlements and DelDOT.  DelDOT should be outsourced.  You don't need a state bureaucracy to maintain roads and bridges.  Let private industry bid on maintenance and design.

Consolidate school districts now, Eliminate the departmental education staff and outsource it.  Why does the Department of Finance need an educational staff that duplicates the one in every State Department?

The fat is so thick in state government, you can't even get to the meat.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 11:42 pm
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A hiring freeze or cutback can actually be quite significant.

My business did something similar for the last quarter of the year. We froze all hiring and new contractor assignments and we'll save half a million dollars...and while our salaries tend to be higher then state salaries, there are almost certainly more state workers. Now, we've taken other steps to freeze capitial and cut down on operational spending, but in many cases all it means is that we are delaying what we need to spend to expand our business. The hiring freeze saves us money, of course, but the effect is that there are less people earning it and spending it...and so it is with other savings.  In the end, of course, we'll see a hiring surge...and assuming other companies are doing the same thing, it will help in the long run, and when it hits, will help jumpstart the economy.

Yes, there has to be cuts, and maybe those areas like CR and the lottery might be exempt, but then so will the state police...and prison guards.....and so on. Everybody thinks what they do is the most important, and I generally think that most managers spend the money they best way they can, so something will be affected.  Maybe we don't need DMV open on Wendsday nights, or maybe we can cut the season on the state parks, but I don't think there is enough "painless" money to

 

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sorry folks ...wrong comment, wrong forum...

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SO... my question is   (same as it was last spring) ... why are administrative contracts protected and teachers aren't.         And come to think of it... why didn't DSEA ever bring up this issue?

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well for pandering... that's a lot of email to read.  I'd rather just go to Pumpkin'Chunkin   and Point to Point   ...   

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Pandering to the masses.

rachel suns wrote:

He also is soliciting cost-savings suggestions from residents, who have submitted hundreds of ideas at his transition Web site, http://www.markelltransition.com.



  Cutting smart...  inefficiency in government programs.   "Soliciting"  advice...  which could also lead to... tell me  WHO you see is wasting.  :)



 



 


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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 10:48 pm
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Hiring freezes aren't going to do nothing. Cut the fat. I gave my list in another topic...DE wastes so much $$$ on ridiculous stuff and on our part time legistlators!

 

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On the contrary.  This is my second career Fred, as you know.  I "retired" from the private sector 4 years ago.  I was recruited because of my experience to generate revenue and supervise a small staff(4) that generates revenue for all of the wonderful government programs that I dislike so much.  I will earn a minimal pension with minimal benefits when I retire from the state in 6 years.    We operate very bare bones for the amount of revenue that we generate.

I enjoy working and my ego gets fed daily when the revenue my group generates continues to keep taxes low in Delaware.

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He also is soliciting cost-savings suggestions from residents, who have submitted hundreds of ideas at his transition Web site, http://www.markelltransition.com.


  Cutting smart...  inefficiency in government programs.   "Soliciting"  advice...  which could also lead to... tell me  WHO you see is wasting.  :)


 


 

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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 06:00 pm
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And I am sure that CR would have a different opinion if it was his state job that was eliminated...unless he is eligible for retirement.

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I think if you are happy you could care less about how big or small our government is. I think a lot of people are unhappy with their lives because of money and finances. I'm absolutely sure there are things that could be done to improve on the way we spend our money, but I think that no matter what we do, if you are in a financial bind, you will be unhappy about it.

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Time to shrink the government, finally.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:

Del. revenue estimates plunge more

2009, 2010 ‘a lot worse than we ever imagined’


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


WILMINGTON — Gov. Ruth Ann Minner reinstituted a hiring freeze and ordered state agencies to identify 7 percent in budget cuts this fiscal year after a state economic forecasting committee slashed revenue projections over two years by more than $455 million Monday.


The governor also asked state offices to submit cuts of up to 15 percent for the upcoming fiscal year, with the proposed 2010 budget due to be presented in January.


"Unfortunately, we must take immediate action to reduce state spending in light of the continually deteriorating economic forecast," Gov. Minner said in a prepared statement Monday.


"We have had a number of management controls in place since the beginning of the fiscal year. We will make these even more restrictive to ensure that we continue to balance the budget. Unfortunately, even with our best efforts, this is a problem that will not be resolved for several months."


The announcement came on the heels of a special meeting of the Delaware Economic and Financial Advisory Council’s revenue subcommittee, which was called due to last month’s collapse of several financial institutions and Maryland voters approving slots earlier this month.


The last time the panel held a special meeting to address a wildly fluctuating economy was in October 2001, a month after 9/11. DEFAC’s next regularly scheduled meeting is Dec. 15.


The unofficial revenue estimates painted a bleak picture for the state, with nearly every revenue category falling and a previously predicted recovery in fiscal 2011 being dashed.


"I think there are three headlines here," said Dr. Kenneth Lewis, revenue subcommittee chairman and University of Delaware economics professor.


"(Fiscal) 2009 is going to be worse than we thought … 2010 is going to be a lot worse than we ever imagined … And we thought we’d come out of it at some point, but it won’t be 2011.


"We’re looking at major, major revisions to fiscal 2010 and fiscal 2011."


Revenue estimates for fiscal 2009 fell by $151.7 million Monday, which would actually plunge Delaware into the red if the state’s $3.491 billion in operating costs — operating budget, cash to the capital budget and grant-in-aid bill — remain intact and the $3.26 billion revenue estimate doesn’t change.


Office of Management and Budget acting director Michael S. Jackson said the governor’s call for 7 percent in cuts this year would result in $130 million-$180 million in reductions, which would balance the operating budget and provide a little cushion.


Revenue projections for fiscal 2010 plummeted by $303.7 million Monday, which Mr. Jackson said would present a serious challenge in assembling a proposed spending plan, with state agencies presenting their requests to the OMB this month.


In September, DEFAC dropped its revenue estimates for fiscal 2009 by $38.9 million and for fiscal 2010 by $91.3 million.


"This is a challenge that is going to take several months to resolve, probably right up until June 30," he said. "What you’re seeing in the forecast (Monday) is reflective of the national economy."


Mr. Jackson said that while all options are on the table to dig the state out of the financial hole, some are less tenable than others.


"We will look for where we can cut first and exhaust every option — base-budget cuts, government re-engineering," he said. "Layoffs would be a last resort … There are no easy choices as we move forward."


Sen. Nancy W. Cook, who serves on DEFAC and co-chairs the budget-writing Joint Finance Committee, said the legislative panel likely would begin cutting from the 2009 budget shortly after session begins in January.


"It’s probably going to be a repeat of last year and probably be at a greater magnitude," said Sen. Cook, D-Kenton. "I look for January to be very busy."


One option that Sen. Cook said she personally wouldn’t push for would be to tap the state’s rainy day fund, which the state has never done.


Gov. Minner’s call for mid-year 7-percent budget cuts would not apply to public or higher education.


The hiring freeze does not include the legislature, judiciary, higher education or local school districts, and it doesn’t apply to previously approved positions in health and safety, 24-hour institutional settings or employees who are eligible for return to merit rights and critical transition hires.


The fiscal controls implemented Monday are in addition to a review of purchase orders greater than $2,500 and a freeze on job reclassifications, both of which have been in place for several months.


Gov.-elect Jack A. Markell, who serves on DEFAC as the state treasurer, said the state must look to weather "the perfect economic storm" and be prepared to grow the economy in a new direction.


During the two-hour meeting, revenue subcommittee members briefly discussed whether the economic climate qualified as a mild recession or a severe one, a distinction Gov.-elect Markell said afterward is immaterial to the average family.


"Frankly, those words don’t mean very much," Gov.-elect Markell said. "We’re talking hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of families being affected. To them, there’s nothing that’s mild about this recession.


"Every time you talk about an uptick in the unemployment rate … this is not just about numbers, this is not just about percentage points; these are real Delaware families struggling to stay in their houses, struggling to keep their health care and struggling to put food on the table.


"We’ve got to remember that this is about real people."


The governor-elect declined to outline specific proposals for cutting expenses and how to improve the economy, noting that "there is only one governor at a time." He did say that he plans on setting an example by not filling every position in the governor’s office when he takes over on Jan. 20.


He also is soliciting cost-savings suggestions from residents, who have submitted hundreds of ideas at his transition Web site, http://www.markelltransition.com.


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Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com.

Revenue
estimates


The Delaware Economic and Financial Advisory Council’s revenue estimates have dropped considerably in the past year. Although Monday’s estimates were not approved by the full council, the projected decrease served as a warning that the state has not reached the bottom of this economic tailspin.


Sept. 2007: -$32.7 million
December: -$41.2 million
March 2008: -$326.4 million
April: -$47.3 million
May: +$39.2 million
June: +$66.5 million
September: -$139.5 million
November: -$455.4 million

Cost controls


Gov. Ruth Ann Minner implemented several fiscal controls Monday in the wake of state revenue estimates falling by $455.4 million to help curb expenditures:


•Reinstituted hiring freeze — does not apply to the legislature, judiciary, higher education or local school districts and doesn’t affect previously approved positions in health, safety and 24-hour institutions
•Requested state agencies submit a 7-percent cut in fiscal 2009 budget, excluding public and higher education
•Requested state agencies propose cuts of up to 15 percent for fiscal 2010
•Continuing a review for purchase orders over $2,500
•Continuing freeze on job reclassifications

 

 

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Habanero wrote: Oh that's right, drinking is an acceptable habit, smoking is not.

That about sums it up...and while both do damage to the individual and society, one can be used responsibility, the other....not.

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Footloose,  one of the best things about the Delaware Legislature is that there are rather few lawyers in the ranks compared to other states.

I do have to laugh at the opposition to the increase in the alcohol taxes.  Where was similar outrage when they doubled the cigarette tax???????

Oh that's right, drinking is an acceptable habit, smoking is not.

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Wow!

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Hoist the black flag of Anarchy and slip loose the Dogs of War. It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.

 

Did I miss any? Seriously folks, what's in there are those you put there and let stay. 'First kill the voters' should be the next mantra we consider. It ain't the lawyers, it's the idiots that vote for 'em.

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Footloose wrote: As far back as the times of Jesus the tax collectors were the most hated along with lawyers.  In Medieval times the King's collectors rode roughshod over the peasantry.  Today is no different.  Lawmakers are mostly made up of the hated lawyers and so therefore they constantly seek to plunder us, the peasants.  We are sheep to be sheared.  Cattle to be slaughtered.  There are far too many programs that the Democratic tax-and-spend liberals have created to maintain a false sense of security so the peasants, knowing no better, keep on electing and re-electing the plunderers.  Cut more of these damned programs that government should not be engaged in in the first place.  Taxes, fines, fees, licenses, etc.  The Constitution guarantees someone the right to labor and its fruits but somehow the government creates the right into a privilege and licenses it for a fee.  There has to be a taxpayer revolt sometime soon.  This is an outrage.

THE SOONER THE BETTER.  HALF I SAID HALF OF YOUR WORK THATS 50% GOES TO THE GOVERNMENT IN ONE TAX OR ANOTHER. WHAT OBLIGATES ANY OF US TO HAVE THE GOV. TAKE ANY OF OUR LABOR?  NOTHING DOES.

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As far back as the times of Jesus the tax collectors were the most hated along with lawyers.  In Medieval times the King's collectors rode roughshod over the peasantry.  Today is no different.  Lawmakers are mostly made up of the hated lawyers and so therefore they constantly seek to plunder us, the peasants.  We are sheep to be sheared.  Cattle to be slaughtered.  There are far too many programs that the Democratic tax-and-spend liberals have created to maintain a false sense of security so the peasants, knowing no better, keep on electing and re-electing the plunderers.  Cut more of these damned programs that government should not be engaged in in the first place.  Taxes, fines, fees, licenses, etc.  The Constitution guarantees someone the right to labor and its fruits but somehow the government creates the right into a privilege and licenses it for a fee.  There has to be a taxpayer revolt sometime soon.  This is an outrage.

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From the Delaware State News: Tax increase votes hit snag

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DOVER — The General Assembly passed several tax and fee bills designed to close a budget gap of more than $200 million, but some of the bills ran into a roadblock in the Senate Thursday, leaving the fate of the spending plan in question.


Legislative leaders have agreed to a series of tax and fee hikes that would raise $86.2 million in ongoing revenue and about $100 million in one-time money to bail the state out of a $214 million shortfall.


But a proposal to increase alcohol licensing fees for retailers and wholesalers failed in the Senate on the heels of a gross-receipts-tax hike that squeaked by with the bare minimum number of votes — after the Senate had to revote because it failed the first time.


That brought the night to an abrupt halt in the Senate, with legislation increasing the alcohol tax by 50 percent left on the table after passing the House with just enough votes.


Senate Majority Leader Sen. Anthony J. DeLuca, D-Newark, said the licensing fees bill could be reconsidered Monday — the last day of session — and the other tax bills should move forward then, too.


"It’s no big secret that it’s a balancing act between the fiscal package and the budget," Sen. DeLuca said. "For every cent we’re short on one end, it will have to be made up on the other end."


That could mean that the legislative Joint Finance Committee, which crafts the operating budget, could be forced to reconvene. The panel finished the budget last week.