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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 03:46 pm |
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Helen here wrote: I don't hate all he says , but I've been around long enough to know it's politics normal he does not hold the key to the Magic Garden door , where all is beautiful. For that matter no one does.
What does that have to do with criticizing him for talking about his family?
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I don't hate all he says , but I've been around long enough to know it's politics normal he does not hold the key to the Magic Garden door , where all is beautiful. For that matter no one does.
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Helen here wrote: Obama Before the VETs
Is playing the blame game , at this very moment. He is saying he will not run a dirty campaign but doing it.
He is talking of his grandfathers service as if it were his ( BHO ) own gift to the Country . His arrogance is unbelievable ( in my opinion ) .
His grand father' s service to our country his grandfather gift to this country and every one living here.
Guess he is using the three wise man part of the birth of Jesus ( being him) and his grandfather giving him the gift of Military service so now he needs two more , I hope he doesn't pick Biden to bring the second gift cause the third gift may be a long time waiting. heh heh heh
Very few politicians have military service, so many of them praise those who did...but leaving their kids safe from harm. Wanna guess how many kids of Senators and Congressmen are in the military?
As for his grandfather's service....my grandfather's both served, my father served, and it was one of the reasons why I serve. I don't think it is disrespectful nor arrogant to talk about it....unless you hate everything Obama says.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 01:52 pm |
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Helen here wrote: Obama Before the VETs
Is playing the blame game , at this very moment. He is saying he will not run a dirty campaign but doing it.
He is talking of his grandfathers service as if it were his ( BHO ) own gift to the Country . His arrogance is unbleiveable ( in my opinion ) .
His grand father' s service to our country his grandfather gift to this country and every one living here.
Obama is talking about his family as every other politician does. What's your problem? Open your eyes.
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Obama Before the VETs
Is playing the blame game , at this very moment. He is saying he will not run a dirty campaign but doing it.
He is talking of his grandfathers service as if it were his ( BHO ) own gift to the Country . His arrogance is unbelievable ( in my opinion ) .
His grand father' s service to our country his grandfather gift to this country and every one living here.
Guess he is using the three wise man part of the birth of Jesus ( being him) and his grandfather giving him the gift of Military service so now he needs two more , I hope he doesn't pick Biden to bring the second gift cause the third gift may be a long time waiting. heh heh heh Last edited on Tue Aug 19th, 2008 01:51 pm by Helen here
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Sen. Obama was not my first choice. Sen. Hillary Clinton was. But I can applaud his stance against the war mongering imperialists who saturate the Republican party. Our wars should be limited to the home front such as the war on poverty, the war against ignorance, the war against racism, and the war against capitalism. Wars only serve the profiteers. Your only hope to turn things around will be the Democratic party. Change from a war mongering capitalist society to a fair and equal socialist society where the needs of the many will be met.
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Rightwinger wrote: Helen here wrote: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/12/20/america/20obama.php
This shows me Obama either cannot make decisions on issues, or didn't want to
make waves in order to further his political career. Voting present that many times
is not acceptable in my opinion. I noticed he didn't have any trouble voting NO
for going into Iraq! It is very difficult for me to understand why people support
him. There is a mountain of reasons why he is not a good choice for the
nomination, but I will not go into a list for fear of being labeled a racist by the
liberals on this blog.
I disagree with the conclusions you are drawing from this article. I took the time to read it and it is worth discussing. From reading it, I learned that voting "present" is something people do in that area. I have no experience with that, but then I never lived there.
Obama is a legal scholar. He was president of the Harvard Law Review. People who were in that position on any law review, much less Harvard's, usually end up clerking for superior court or Supreme Court Justices.
If this man says he voted "present" because he had constitutional issues with the way the bills were crafted, I am not in a position to refute him. I certainly am aware of a host of legislation that gets passed and then shot down in the courts. When that happens, it costs us a fortune. We lose. The politicians win because it makes them appear as David fighting Goliath - Goliath being the courts. Politicians like to use the courts as an excuse for why they can't get things done.
If you read Obama's books, particularly the second, I think you will have a better sense of how Obama has approached government and serving in office.
There are many legitimate criticisms that can leveled against either candidate. No one should be hesitant to express legitimate critism. I think people would be better served if they elaborated on their positive reasons for supporting a candidate rather than their negative reasons for not supporting a candidate. I think we would all be better served by that.
The sad truth is that when it comes to Obama there has been a lot of hateful and grabbing at straws criticism of him. I'm sure everybody knows there have been innumerable emails circulated about Obama that simply were not true. The majority have been racially motivated.
Just the other day another racist attack was posted on this blog where the actual body of one of those emails was posted as fact. It concerned a lie about a million dollar campaign contribution from Obama to his cousin in Africa. I find it upsetting that people are willing to put out that kind of trash and I find it tiring having to constantly type out responses.
I think as adults we have some responsibility to do some research before we put our mouths in gear. If we're going to talk publicly about a topic in order to persuade others, we should take pains to be honest.
If someone wants to say Obama is lacking in experience that is a fair criticism. If they want to make the case that he is unpatriotic, they need to present facts that no one has to date. Wearing a lapel pin is not a test of patriotism If they want to say he is a Muslim, they are simply beating a dead horse.
There is much resentment between the races. A lot of what is being said about Obama seems to be generated by that. We owe it to ourselves to examine that. We also owe it to ourselves to find our common ground.
If you were an adult during the sixties, you can easily recall how polarized we were as a people. I don't think that kind of polarization is something to aspire to.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 11:02 am |
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Helen here wrote: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/12/20/america/20obama.php
This shows me Obama either cannot make decisions on issues, or didn't want to
make waves in order to further his political career. Voting present that many times
is not acceptable in my opinion. I noticed he didn't have any trouble voting NO
for going into Iraq! It is very difficult for me to understand why people support
him. There is a mountain of reasons why he is not a good choice for the
nomination, but I will not go into a list for fear of being labeled a racist by the
liberals on this blog.
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Boo wrote: Terrance, sonny. Pushin trash is big business. How do ya think that moveon.org, dailyKOS, and the Huffington Post, your gospel readings fer the day, got to do so well?
I've seen Huffington Post a couple of times as a result of a Google search on a topic. The other's I haven't. You obviously have more experience with them than I. You must be confusing me with someone else. Maybe you've been throwing too many rocks across the pond.
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Never have, never intend to. I leave Newshound to you Liberal types to anguish over.
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Playing the Game wrote: Give it a rest Terrance.
Talk to Newshound.
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Terrance, sonny. Pushin trash is big business. How do ya think that moveon.org, dailyKOS, and the Huffington Post, your gospel readings fer the day, got to do so well?
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Playing the Game wrote: Give it a rest Terrance.
Talk to Newshound.
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Newshound wrote: Jack Wheeler is a brilliant man who was the author of Regan’s strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the "star wars" race and expose their inner weakness. For years he wrote a weekly intelligence update that was extremely interesting and well structured and informed. He consults(ed) with several mega corporations on global trends and the future, etc. He is a patriot with a no-nonsense approach to everything. He's also a somewhat well known mountain climber and adventurer, in semi-retirement now.
Subject: Dr. Jack Wheeler's views regarding Obama
The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African, Arabic surname and Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn't is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single genetic drop, not one ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it. There were no arguments Hillary could make that could be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: "Credo quia absurdum", I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
Having an empty suit as President is absurd!!!
His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
(Jack Wheeler)
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Jack Wheeler is a brilliant man who was the author of Regan’s strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the "star wars" race and expose their inner weakness. For years he wrote a weekly intelligence update that was extremely interesting and well structured and informed. He consults(ed) with several mega corporations on global trends and the future, etc. He is a patriot with a no-nonsense approach to everything. He's also a somewhat well known mountain climber and adventurer, in semi-retirement now.
Subject: Dr. Jack Wheeler's views regarding Obama
The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African, Arabic surname and Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn't is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single genetic drop, not one ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it. There were no arguments Hillary could make that could be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: "Credo quia absurdum", I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
Having an empty suit as President is absurd!!!
His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
(Jack Wheeler)
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Playing the Game wrote: No, he said the answer was above his pay grade. In industry as you learn mor your pay grade goes up. He is just waiting for his pay grade to go up.
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Playing the Game wrote: Ask the "messiah".
Obama was the one who said he did not have absolute knowledge. You need to keep up with this stuff.
You have trouble with understanding. It's above my pay grade means I'm not at the top of this knowledge tree. In the case of when human life begins, Obama was deferring to God and not presuming to know.
By the way, did you notice the response from Halvah on the use of the word "Jew"? You might want to send him an email and ask him to forward it on to all the Jews in Israel about your superior knowledge about this word. Apparently they aren't aware of how they are using racial slurs over there.
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No, he said the answer was above his pay grade. In industry as you learn mor your pay grade goes up. He is just waiting for his pay grade to go up.
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Playing the Game wrote: Ask the "messiah".
Obama was the one who said he did not have absolute knowledge. You need to keep up with this stuff.
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2centsworth wrote: Obama is a "Talking Head" that says whatever his handlers tell him to. McCain certainly has his shortcomings but if you want higher taxes, higher energy costs and more entitlements, vote for Bama.
That sounds like the Republican "talking points".
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| Obama is a "Talking Head" that says whatever his handlers tell him to. McCain certainly has his shortcomings but if you want higher taxes, higher energy costs and more entitlements, vote for Bama.
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Playing the Game wrote: Ask the "messiah".
Obama was the one who said he did not have absolute knowledge. You need to keep up with this stuff.
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| Ask the "messiah".
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Habanero wrote: It's above his pay grade..................
It must be nice to have an absolute knowledge about things.
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Playing the Game wrote: Sounds like you're posting from the give it a rest "home"
I am very tired today.
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| Sounds like you're posting from the give it a rest "home"
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Playing the Game wrote: In todays world, you would probably have said the same of Hitler and Mussolini.
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Sadam was an evil man and he did terrible things, but we had no reason to invade Iraq. The information that keeps coming out only shows how badly we were misinformed and lied to by this administration.
Give it a rest. Study history.
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In todays world, you would probably have said the same of Hitler and Mussolini.
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Sadam was an evil man and he did terrible things, but we had no reason to invade Iraq. The information that keeps coming out only shows how badly we were misinformed and lied to by this administration.
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Rightwinger wrote: We would be foolish to think that the ONLY reason we went into Iraq was because of the weapons of mass destruction.
Sadam was an evil man and he did terrible things, but we had no reason to invade Iraq. The information that keeps coming out only shows how badly we were misinformed and lied to by this administration.
There are a lot of bad leaders out there. We cannot simply go to war with them. We need a legitimate reason. Invading Iraq has hurt us in many ways and it has exposed us to new dangers.
Bush I and Brent Scowcroft wrote a book and explained why removing Sadam would have been a mistake. Everything they listed as a bad consequence happened to us when Bush II did it. The greatest voice against invading Iraq within the administration at the time was Colin Powell. Our General Staff also voiced its objections to the invasion.
The basis upon which you administer a country is more complicated than how this administration has gone about it. We are not the only players on this planet and we must think carefully about what we do.
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Terrance wrote: I cannot argue with you over Obama's experience or military service. I can only point out that he was correct about invading Iraq and the man with the experience and military service was wrong.
I think it is also noteworthy that he has managed a campaign that beat out the Clinton's formidable machine. No small doings that ...
We would be foolish to think that the ONLY reason we went into Iraq was because of the weapons of mass destruction. Saddam and his sons were monsters who terrorized, killed and used chemicals on his own people. He already had shown his aggression towards his neighbors when invading Kuwait. Norman Schwartzkopf wanted to finish the job back then, but GWB's father listened to Colin Powell. I happen to agree with Stormin Norman. It would have saved us billions by finishing the job then and eliminated additional years of suffering by the Iraqi people.
I believe in return for this liberation, our country should be compensated by the
Iraq government and given special rates on oil.
As for Obama's campaign and beating out the Clinton machine, not many would
have predicted it, that is for sure. If Hillary had been as good at the beginning of
her campaign as she was toward the end of it, I feel certain she would have gotten
the nomination. No one is more surprised & disappointed than Bill.
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Rightwinger wrote: Terrance wrote: Reagan was a well liked President, but his age overtook him in office. Age is a consideration.
Independent of that, I agree there is much truth in "older and wiser". However, there is also truth in knowing your limits. McCain has been saying things that may indicate a problem. His age should not be ignored as a consideration.
I would be interested in seeing you post on the Who Would Make An Ideal President topic.
In the meantime, since I am surely older and therefore, by your own statement, wiser, you need to consider what I am saying.
I do believe Reagan was showing signs of Alzheimer's in his last two years as
President and so I understand your concern about Mc Cain's age. However,
the voters in this country selected him as the Republican nominee, they obviously
didn't think his age or his previous health issues were a problem.
On the other hand, the Dems selected a much younger man with very little
political experience and who did not serve in our military.
I'd rather take my chances with the experienced old guy!
I cannot argue with you over Obama's experience or military service. I can only point out that he was correct about invading Iraq and the man with the experience and military service was wrong.
I think it is also noteworthy that he has managed a campaign that beat out the Clinton's formidable machine. No small doings that ...
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FYI If you are interested in seeing information on Campaign Contributors, check
out this terrific website! You'll find out who is backing McCain and who is backing
Obama. I have added it to my favorites list!
http://www.newsmeat.com
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Terrance wrote: Reagan was a well liked President, but his age overtook him in office. Age is a consideration.
Independent of that, I agree there is much truth in "older and wiser". However, there is also truth in knowing your limits. McCain has been saying things that may indicate a problem. His age should not be ignored as a consideration.
I would be interested in seeing you post on the Who Would Make An Ideal President topic.
In the meantime, since I am surely older and therefore, by your own statement, wiser, you need to consider what I am saying.
I do believe Reagan was showing signs of Alzheimer's in his last two years as
President and so I understand your concern about Mc Cain's age. However,
the voters in this country selected him as the Republican nominee, they obviously
didn't think his age or his previous health issues were a problem.
On the other hand, the Dems selected a much younger man with very little
political experience and who did not serve in our military.
I'd rather take my chances with the experienced old guy!
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Playing the Game wrote: Yep. BTW, what is juvenial?
You are right now.
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Playing the Game wrote: Are you claiming that messiah is?
No. I think refering to Obama as the Messiah is juvenile. I was just saying I hope that no one crosses the line between juvenial and racist.
By the way, are you still maintaining that the word "Jew" is a racial slur?
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Playing the Game wrote: Can we still call him the "messiah"?
Are you feeling left out? I was attempting to lighten it up a little with Rightwinger. Of course you may call him whatever you like, this is America. It would be nice if you refrained from racial slurs.
By the way, are you still maintaining that the word "Jew" is a racial slur?
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 08:13 pm |
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Rightwinger wrote: I am anxiously awaiting the debates between Mc Cain & BHO.
IMO, Obama did not do as well as Hillary when they debated. He knows it, and
has been reluctant to debate Mc Cain because he is not comfortable in that
setting. He's terrific when everything is staged and has the liberal media to
back him up.
As a conservative, Mc Cain was not my choice, but I believe he has this
country's best interests at heart, and he has military experience which Obama
does not.
Yes he is old, so was Ronald Reagan and he proved to be one of our best
Presidents.
Have you ever heard the expression "older and wiser"?
I thought Obama did better that Clinton in the debates. I thught that what some people overlooked was that he was unwilling to go after Clinton because he didn't want to start a war within the Democratic Party. He will not have that problem with McCain.
McCain and Obama will appear together tonight on CNN in a debate. It will be interesting to hear what you have to say about that tomorrow.
McCain had no command experience in the military. He also was in favor of invading Iraq and has supported this administration's policy in Iraq. So, I don't think he would be good in terms of military policy. He has also voted against a lot of legislation that was supportive of veterans. Yesterday there was a news item that indicated that our troops in Iraq are donating more to Obama's camapign that they are to McCain's. I believe they said it was 6 times more. Our troops over there are speaking with their campaign contributions.
I also think McCain is too much of a hawk. I did not like his responses on what is going on in Georgia.
Reagan was a well liked President, but his age overtook him in office. Age is a consideration. I mentioned it in response to oop! because I didn't like what oop! had posted or the tone oop! took.
Independent of that, I agree there is much truth in "older and wiser". However, there is also truth in knowing your limits. McCain has been saying things that may indicate a problem. His age should not be ignored as a consideration.
I would be interested in seeing you post on the Who Would Make An Ideal President topic.
In the meantime, since I am surely older and therefore, by your own statement, wiser, you need to consider what I am saying. At the very least, stop using the H when referring to Obama.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 02:18 pm |
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I am anxiously awaiting the debates between Mc Cain & BHO.
IMO, Obama did not do as well as Hillary when they debated. He knows it, and
has been reluctant to debate Mc Cain because he is not comfortable in that
setting. He's terrific when everything is staged and has the liberal media to
back him up.
As a conservative, Mc Cain was not my choice, but I believe he has this
country's best interests at heart, and he has military experience which Obama
does not.
Yes he is old, so was Ronald Reagan and he proved to be one of our best
Presidents.
Have you ever heard the expression "older and wiser"?
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 12:56 pm |
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oop! wrote: I personally want a President that can lead not one who has to be led .
So I guess McCain disqualified himself a few times as far as you're concerned. There were the 3 times that Lieberman had to whisper in his ear just who it was the Iranians were training because McCain had botched it 3 times. Reminiscent of Bush agreeing to talk with the 9/11 Commission only if Cheney was with him - maybe holding his hand.
I guess McCain not knowing what countries bordered each other in the Middle East would also disqualify him as a leader for you. I mean like wow dude this is supposed to be his strong suite.
Oh yeah, then McCain didn't know the name of the leader of Georgia.
I guess McCain switching his position on abortion would also exclude him from consideration by you. As would his switched positions on ending the war in Iraq, off shore oil drilling, and illegal aliens - to name a few.
McCain voting on legislation for veterans also appears at odds with his stated support for our troops.
I can see you draw on hard line on leadership. I guess its irrelevant to you as to whether this was just plain ignorance and incompetence or a series of senior moments.
So who exactly are you voting for?
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 11:27 am |
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I just caught an old clip of BHO saying Praise the Lord and Amen on the campaign trail.
He reminded me of the actor Sheman Hemsely that played in the Jeffersons and went on to have a new series ( about Black Church members ) The show was called""AMEN" and he was Deacon Frye
Where He would be saying Amen and Praise the Lord , but in the same breath he was wheeling and dealing some where in the middle of right and wrong. A good guy who had moral issues and he had to be taking by the hand some times the neck and led back on the right path.
I personally want a President that can lead not one who has to be led .
It's Saturday and Church is tomorrow for most
your sins tonight , will be forgiven tomorrow . Can I get a " Amen Can I get a Praise the Lord. The Messiah
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/swank/071210
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 12:18 am |
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Income Redistribution: Emergency Obama Exhibiting a depth of economic knowledge reminiscent of a cookie sheet, Barack “Tire Gauge” Obama released a six-page policy paper to pass for a serious “emergency economic plan,” otherwise known as income confiscation and redistribution. One part of his plan would extort billions of dollars in what he considers “windfall profits” from America’s oil companies over the next five years to pay for another one-time stimulus check ($500 for individuals or $1,000 for families) to offset the rising costs of energy this winter. Big Oil is a handy target for Obama, given, for example, ExxonMobil’s recent $11-billion quarterly profit announcement. But economist Mark Perry points out that Exxon’s tax bill this year ($61.7 billion for the first half of 2008) will outstrip the entire tax contribution of the lower 50 percent of all American wage earners. Furthermore, Exxon’s profit margin was only 10 percent—not at all out of line with most businesses and not exactly a “windfall.” (In a bit of unwelcome news for Obama this week, the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics noted that his campaign has received more money from Exxon employees, $42,000 to $35,166, than the McCain campaign. Obama also received more money from Chevron and BP. So much for the Demos’ too-clever new website, “Exxon-McCain ‘08.”)
The other portion of Obama’s plan would set up both a $25-billion fund to help struggling state governments address their own budget deficits and a $25-billion boost for the federal highway trust fund. It’s less clear from where that $50 billion in revenue shifting will emanate. Naturally, Obama’s plan lacks the specifics regarding which states and projects will benefit, but given that much of it will go to states that are in a deficit situation, his plan would reward states engaging in reckless spending while providing no help for spendthrift states. As usual with Big Government, no good deed (or success story) will go unpunished.
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 11:55 am |
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http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/03/index.html
Memories that coil the mind
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 06:18 pm |
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BHO better not rest for long , with Hilary out there campaigning. She reminds me of LBJ .
"I will become President , and I don't give a damn how "
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 10:50 pm |
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Even the MSM is on this one tonight...............
Playing the Game wrote:
It ain't over til it's over.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/clinton-leaves-option-open-for-convention-floor-vote/
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 08:21 pm |
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Man arrested in Fla for threats on GWB and BHO , guns and ammo found in Hotel room
Fred the crazys are out and about
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=55769&cat=14
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 06:01 pm |
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Ok so are you saying BHO had to be forced in to stating his alliance to our country and flag .
That's sad in it's self , for a man who is running for the highest office in the United States
Maybe there needs to be more hecklers like him and come to think about you know if either one of the Grahams were present he probably would have had a prayer before the crowed too!
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 05:55 pm |
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Someone who obviously doesn't support Obama....
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gEi76Hv8oe7-Kx2x4ZY0MLMm2viQD92CBG885
What a clown....what a tool.
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