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Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 12:55 pm |
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What the guy who does it calls it is of no consequence; it is what we think of it.
ANY such attacks are despicable; the obvious historical reference of the lynching of blacks made it strike more chords, but it doesn't make it any worse, or better.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 12:51 pm |
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| With the Palin effigy- no crime was committed because there is no historical precedent for violence against white women by hanging. Disgusting, yes. A double standard, perhaps. This was done in Oregon with an Obama effigy and the homeowners were forced to remove it or face litigation. The guys who put the Palin effigy up there called it "an installation of art." I call it despicable and completely without evidence of intelligence. How liberal in this country are we willing to go to justify an immoral act and violation of human decency?
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 10:47 pm |
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Playing the Game wrote: But the "skinheads" only threatened to do what they wanted to do and they are in jail for hate crimes. The Palin haters got a laugh and a chuckle and they actually hanged her in effigy?
The skinheads were plotting to kill someone. Even you can't be that stupid!
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 10:47 pm |
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| But the "skinheads" only threatened to do what they wanted to do and they are in jail for hate crimes. The Palin haters got a laugh and a chuckle and they actually hanged her in effigy?
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 10:45 pm |
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Playing the Game wrote: Were they arrested and charged with a hate crime?
Not that I know of, but I am glad someone at least tried to expose them for the trash they are.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 10:34 pm |
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| Were they arrested and charged with a hate crime?
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 05:40 pm |
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Helen here wrote: Strange how a Palin look a like dummy with noose around her neck hanging from a house is just a decoration , but had the dummy resembled Obama, it would have been a hate crime !
Double statndard again
http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/hanged-by-a-noose-palin-attacks-go-to-another-level/2008/10/28/1224955990851.html
Actually I heard the harshest criticism of this very action last night and it was given by Keith Olbermann. You can watch it here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#27408713
I don't know of anybody who approves of this trash. It was a disgraceful act.
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Strange how a Palin look a like dummy with noose around her neck hanging from a house is just a decoration , but had the dummy resembled Obama, it would have been a hate crime !
Double standard again
http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/hanged-by-a-noose-palin-attacks-go-to-another-level/2008/10/28/1224955990851.html
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 11:44 pm |
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/06/obama.colbert/index.html
Obama hit team strikes
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 11:01 pm |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1612802
Now i uderstand the family of these two donated to Obama , and in the banking business.
What is going on here ?
http://nh.barackobama.com/page/group/LexingtonCountySouthCarolinaforObamaLast edited on Mon Oct 27th, 2008 11:28 pm by Helen here
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http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-09/msg03564.html
Maybe this guy will spead the wealth to send Obama disciples to school and let them run his country.
Now if he did get student loans and worked as he claimed , how in the hell did he pay them all back ? When it took him 17 years to pay off traffic tickets .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2109211/posts
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 09:17 pm |
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http://wasteofmyoxygen.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/la-times-refuses-to-release-tape-of-barack-obama-admitting-close-ties-to-plo-terrorist-rashid-khalidi/
Not if this is not hiding the crap nothing is
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 04:33 pm |
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Helen here wrote: Dear theres a tape to prove it.
Look I believe in Civil rights but I also believe in Civil responsibility too!
There has been no slaves I know of in the last 100 or so years , all Americans were given the right to vote , if they lost it for crimes committed that's their bad not mine.
There is honest work out there some seem to think they are to good to do, others depend on hand outs cause they can . Even some of the riches people in the country are taking money they don't deserve . It is time we all start giving back , but not in higher taxes to give to those who think the world owes them a favor for being born.
It's called working honestly for a living. Giving on your own not being forced to makes the coffee taste better.
Then I guess you're really voting for Obama because the vast majority of people in this country will pay less taxes under his proposal than they will under McCain's.
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Dear theres a tape to prove it.
Look I believe in Civil rights but I also believe in Civil responsibility too!
There has been no slaves I know of in the last 100 or so years , all Americans were given the right to vote , if they lost it for crimes committed that's their bad not mine.
There is honest work out there some seem to think they are to good to do, others depend on hand outs cause they can . Even some of the riches people in the country are taking money they don't deserve . It is time we all start giving back , but not in higher taxes to give to those who think the world owes them a favor for being born.
It's called working honestly for a living. Giving on your own not being forced to makes the coffee taste better.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 03:35 pm |
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Helen here wrote: http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/2001-interview-obama-explains-that-wealth-distribution-should-be-legislated/
You hear what you want to hear. As always.
We have been living through a massive redistribution of wealth in this country. It even predates the current President. Wealth has been concentrated more and more in the hands of fewer and fewer people. The middle class has been broken.
These actions were the result of legislative actions that enabled them to happen.
What would you call outsourcing and moving American industry offshore? These things did not just happen, they were enabled through legislation. How about needless industry subsidies and tax cuts? Who benefited most from these things.
It was doctrinal and ideological adherence to free market capitalism with the "market" regulating business practices, that have landed us in the mess we are in.
Only people with limited understanding and judgement fail to see this. They also see criticisms of what happened as being socialistic or communistic.
We need to fix a broken system. I'm not sure we can anytime soon and I think there is a lot of pain coming our way.
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http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/2001-interview-obama-explains-that-wealth-distribution-should-be-legislated/
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 01:13 pm |
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Playing the Game wrote: What makes you think it's partisan?
You need to say please.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 12:09 pm |
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 04:03 am |
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Helen here wrote: http://www.youdecide2008.com/2008/10/07/strong-arming-the-media/
Trying to take away the freedoms again and again
You seem to know every partisan website out there.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 03:37 am |
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http://www.youdecide2008.com/2008/10/07/strong-arming-the-media/
Trying to take away the freedoms again and again
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 03:25 am |
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Disgusted wrote: Sad to state, but yes, this is what passes for American journalism. The editorial page/segment is now the whole paper/broadcast.
You stated that perfectly, and I say that as someone who used to earn a living as a journalist/reporter.
In fact I find that to be a part of my background that I downplay more than anything else, as it is a "profession" that currently rates even lower than trial lawyers.
And just as an aside, the prickliness of Biden when asked a question he doesn't like is not something new. He took more than one attitude with me about questions I asked him as a reporter ---- more than 20 years ago. And I wasn't the only one that got the "you're joking" treatment. Back then it didn't make the national news because no one really gave a rat's rearend about a Senator from Delaware.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 01:37 am |
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Newshound wrote: Double standard
Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin interviewed with CNN’s Drew Griffin this week and the subject of Biden’s comments came up. Palin didn’t hold any punches, asking, “Why does Joe Biden get a pass on such a thing? Can you imagine if I would have said such a thing?... I think that we would have been hounded and held accountable...[Y]ou guys would have clobbered me.”
All Griffin could do was admit, “You’re right.” (Even Dan Rather conceded, “Certainly if Sarah Palin had said this it would be above the fold in most newspapers.”)
Later in the interview, Griffin did try to clobber Palin, and he lied in order to do it. “The press has been pretty hard on you,” he said. “The Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well. The National Review had a story saying that, you know, ‘I can’t tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, or all of the above’.”
Palin repeatedly pressed Griffin for a name—“Who wrote that one?” —but Griffin refused to supply it. The author, it turns out, is Byron York, a National Review contributor, but what he said was quite different from the way Griffin portrayed. York wrote, “Watching press coverage of the Republican candidate for vice president, it’s sometimes hard to decide whether Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward, or—or, well, all of the above. Palin, the governor of Alaska, has faced more criticism than any vice-presidential candidate since 1988, when Democrats and the press tore into Dan Quayle.” Clearly, this was not his opinion, but the media’s portrayal of her. This is what now passes as journalism?
Sad to state, but yes, this is what passes for American journalism. The editorial page/segment is now the whole paper/broadcast.
Right on, Byron York.
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http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/biden_tv_interview/2008/10/26/144216.html?utm_medium=RSS
Guess Paline wasn't the only one who was blinded by the head lights , now was she ?
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Rolling on the floor laughing wrote: EarnestLi wrote: I have to give you credit on ignoring me fool.
Actually, I prefer your cartoons to what you would probably write. On the other hand, you're no match for the rabbit. I liked the rabbit.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 08:38 pm |
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EarnestLi wrote: I have to give you credit on ignoring me fool.
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Cobra wrote: Neither does anyone else. Take a hike.
I have to give you credit on ignoring me fool.
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Neither does anyone else. Take a hike.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 06:46 pm |
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Cobra wrote: Those Republicans you name are not doctrinaire conservatives just as many Democrats are not doctrinaire socialists. Your post here, just like all the others, have no meaning and are a waste of bandwidth. No one here likes you, except maybe 1 or 2, but you are overwhelmingly the most hated. Take a hike!
I really don't care what you think of me.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26th, 2008 06:43 pm |
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Those Republicans you name are not doctrinaire conservatives just as many Democrats are not doctrinaire socialists. Your post here, just like all the others, have no meaning and are a waste of bandwidth. No one here likes you, except maybe 1 or 2, but you are overwhelmingly the most hated. Take a hike!
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Newshound wrote: Double standard
Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin interviewed with CNN’s Drew Griffin this week and the subject of Biden’s comments came up. Palin didn’t hold any punches, asking, “Why does Joe Biden get a pass on such a thing? Can you imagine if I would have said such a thing?... I think that we would have been hounded and held accountable...[Y]ou guys would have clobbered me.”
All Griffin could do was admit, “You’re right.” (Even Dan Rather conceded, “Certainly if Sarah Palin had said this it would be above the fold in most newspapers.”)
Later in the interview, Griffin did try to clobber Palin, and he lied in order to do it. “The press has been pretty hard on you,” he said. “The Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well. The National Review had a story saying that, you know, ‘I can’t tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, or all of the above’.”
Palin repeatedly pressed Griffin for a name—“Who wrote that one?” —but Griffin refused to supply it. The author, it turns out, is Byron York, a National Review contributor, but what he said was quite different from the way Griffin portrayed. York wrote, “Watching press coverage of the Republican candidate for vice president, it’s sometimes hard to decide whether Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward, or—or, well, all of the above. Palin, the governor of Alaska, has faced more criticism than any vice-presidential candidate since 1988, when Democrats and the press tore into Dan Quayle.” Clearly, this was not his opinion, but the media’s portrayal of her. This is what now passes as journalism?
Palin has proved so distasteful to life long Republicans that you now here people named Eisenhower, Buckley and Goldwater endorsing Obama. Go spread your vile distortions to those stupid enough to believe you.
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Double standard
Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin interviewed with CNN’s Drew Griffin this week and the subject of Biden’s comments came up. Palin didn’t hold any punches, asking, “Why does Joe Biden get a pass on such a thing? Can you imagine if I would have said such a thing?... I think that we would have been hounded and held accountable...[Y]ou guys would have clobbered me.”
All Griffin could do was admit, “You’re right.” (Even Dan Rather conceded, “Certainly if Sarah Palin had said this it would be above the fold in most newspapers.”)
Later in the interview, Griffin did try to clobber Palin, and he lied in order to do it. “The press has been pretty hard on you,” he said. “The Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well. The National Review had a story saying that, you know, ‘I can’t tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, or all of the above’.”
Palin repeatedly pressed Griffin for a name—“Who wrote that one?” —but Griffin refused to supply it. The author, it turns out, is Byron York, a National Review contributor, but what he said was quite different from the way Griffin portrayed. York wrote, “Watching press coverage of the Republican candidate for vice president, it’s sometimes hard to decide whether Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward, or—or, well, all of the above. Palin, the governor of Alaska, has faced more criticism than any vice-presidential candidate since 1988, when Democrats and the press tore into Dan Quayle.” Clearly, this was not his opinion, but the media’s portrayal of her. This is what now passes as journalism?
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Newshound wrote: EarnestLi wrote: There are so many here that seem to be advocating for a return to McCarthyism and witch hunts. They were all probably too young to remember Senator Joe. Either that or they were too stupid to understand how truly anti-American that really was. If you read the Verona Papers you might think that history vindicated Joe McCarthy.
Next you'll be telling us Hitler was just misunderstood.
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EarnestLi wrote: There are so many here that seem to be advocating for a return to McCarthyism and witch hunts. They were all probably too young to remember Senator Joe. Either that or they were too stupid to understand how truly anti-American that really was. If you read the Verona Papers you might think that history vindicated Joe McCarthy.
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| There are so many here that seem to be advocating for a return to McCarthyism and witch hunts. They were all probably too young to remember Senator Joe. Either that or they were too stupid to understand how truly anti-American that really was.
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They are all the same wrote: I don't know. Let me think about what really is or really not American.
Is refusing to place your hand over your heart while pledging allegance to the flag American or Anti-American?
Is refusing to wear a flag pin on your lapel American or anti-American?
Is saying that this is the first time in your adult life that you have been proud to be an American - American or anit-American?
Is attending a church for 20 years in which the pastor preaches "God damn America" - American or anti-American?
I will do the American thing and let you decide.
I think it is every bit anti-American and the media is so biased and liberal that they would like to see America damned.
VOTE MCCAIN. Let us not make the mistake once again of voting a man into office who will not keep America strong. Remember Carter. We all hung our heads in shame when every night our blindfolded hostages were paraded before the world while held hostage in Iran. That is when Night Line was started. Every night we were reminded that we were the whimps of the world. It took the election of President Reagan to restore our dignity and strength.
AGREED. Thank You for reminding us. History is destined to repeat itself unless we remember the past.
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Bixby wrote: EarnestLi wrote: Bixby, where have you been. This blog is full of disgraceful, filthy statements by those opposed to Obama. An exaggeration to be sure. Show me one that rises to the level as the Stewart expletive.
Read the post immediately below yours.
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EarnestLi wrote: Bixby, where have you been. This blog is full of disgraceful, filthy statements by those opposed to Obama. An exaggeration to be sure. Show me one that rises to the level as the Stewart expletive.
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I don't know. Let me think about what really is or really not American.
Is refusing to place your hand over your heart while pledging allegance to the flag American or Anti-American?
Is refusing to wear a flag pin on your lapel American or anti-American?
Is saying that this is the first time in your adult life that you have been proud to be an American - American or anit-American?
Is attending a church for 20 years in which the pastor preaches "God damn America" - American or anti-American?
I will do the American thing and let you decide.
I think it is every bit anti-American and the media is so biased and liberal that they would like to see America damned.
VOTE MCCAIN. Let us not make the mistake once again of voting a man into office who will not keep America strong. Remember Carter. We all hung our heads in shame when every night our blindfolded hostages were paraded before the world while held hostage in Iran. That is when Night Line was started. Every night we were reminded that we were the whimps of the world. It took the election of President Reagan to restore our dignity and strength.
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Bixby wrote: Fred wrote: Cobra wrote: There you go again. You can bet if a prominent McCain supporter had said “Expletive you, Obama,” if would be the MSM’s lead story that day, the week, and the rest of the campaign. No, it wouldn't, because it is done all the time. Yeah, by the Democrat bloggers and usual suspects. You don't hear about it because I know of no Republican or conservative comedian. Other than Dennis Miller, I know of no others, and he didn't come up with a remark like that.
Bixby, where have you been. This blog is full of disgraceful, filthy statements by those opposed to Obama.
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Fred wrote: Cobra wrote: There you go again. You can bet if a prominent McCain supporter had said “Expletive you, Obama,” if would be the MSM’s lead story that day, the week, and the rest of the campaign. No, it wouldn't, because it is done all the time. Yeah, by the Democrat bloggers and usual suspects. You don't hear about it because I know of no Republican or conservative comedian. Other than Dennis Miller, I know of no others, and he didn't come up with a remark like that.
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Cobra wrote: There you go again. You can bet if a prominent McCain supporter had said “Expletive you, Obama,” if would be the MSM’s lead story that day, the week, and the rest of the campaign.
No, it wouldn't, because it is done all the time.
As far as I can tell, it did create a small amount of buzz, but he was a comic performing in front of an audience, and it was a laugh line. And, quite frankly, I agree with him...for her to say the things was wrong, and she basically said so herself....so, I guess Stewart was correct in being offended.
The problem is that the right wing has been very good at the whole "real America" bit, implying that if you don't agree with them that you are not one....but most politicians and pundits were smart enough to make it a bit more subtle than that.
It is like that idiot congresswoman who called for investigations into anti-American legislators, and then tried to plead she didn't know what she was getting into when she went on a show called...."Hardball". Let's ignore the fact that she is a minor-league media whore on her own, with 30 apperances on the various talk shows....what did she expect, a review of the Phillies-Rays series?
Excellent game last night, by the way. I have to get up at 5, so I hate staying up that late...but well worth it.
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Cobra wrote: There you go again. You can bet if a prominent McCain supporter had said “Expletive you, Obama,” if would be the MSM’s lead story that day, the week, and the rest of the campaign.
Can you imitate someone else other than RR every now and then. Diversity is the spice of life.
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There you go again. You can bet if a prominent McCain supporter had said “Expletive you, Obama,” if would be the MSM’s lead story that day, the week, and the rest of the campaign.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2008 04:38 pm |
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What is your point? I've heard expletives used by people on all 4 of the people on the national ticket?
He doesn't like Palin; does that surprise you? He was deeply offended by her words (words, of course, that she took back, sort of...why do you think that was?) that only certain types of people were "Real Americans". Yes, it was coded ,and yes, it was for "her" supporters, but it was uncalled for.
I agree with what he said.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2008 04:28 pm |
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Monday, October 20, 2008 MSM silent on Jon Stewart 's Palin expletive Mary Katharine Ham reports at the Weekly Standard’s The Blog - - -
Speaking to a college audience in Boston, Mass. Friday, "Daily Show" host Jon Stewart used his stand-up routine to respond to Sarah Palin's comments about "pro-America" parts of the country, shedding the profanity restrictions that govern his Comedy Central show.
"She said that small towns, that's the part of the country she really likes going to because that's the pro-America part of the country. You know, I just want to say to her, just very quickly: [expletive] you," Stewart said to raucous applause.
Palin addressed a North Carolina fund-raiser Thursday night saying, "We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe...that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, very pro-America areas of this great nation."
The comment was quickly picked up by media outlets and the Obama campaign, whose spokesman Bill Burton asked in an e-mail to reporters, "What part of the country isn’t pro-America?"
Stewart didn't let his own harsh language stop him from criticizing John McCain and Palin for divisiveness.
"I can't take it anymore...After eight years of this divisiveness, we're back to this idea that only small-town America is the real America," he said.
The Manhattan native accused the Republicans of "writing off whole swaths of the country," saying "cities are just a lot of towns piled on top of each other in one place."
During the same routine, however, he seemed to write off Palin's rural swath of the country, referring to the governor's home not as Alaska, Wasilla, or Juneau, but as "the woods."
"McCain made an interesting vice presidential choice," he said. "I like the woods...I just don't know if I would pull my vice president out of the woods randomly."
Stewart also joked about Palin's recent statements on Barack Obama's links to domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and Obama's abortion stances, distorting her statements[.]...
The media has devoted hundreds of stories of late to the tenor of audience comments at McCain-Palin rallies, fretting about "rage" and "incitement" by the campaign, but the only account of Stewart's appearance is a one-sentence mention in the Boston Globe, and his abusive Palin comments are not included.
Ham's entire post's here.
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You can bet if a prominent McCain supporter had said “Expletive you, Obama,” if would be the MSM’s lead story that day.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2008 01:40 pm |
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| And on top of all this- the fabulous Nancy Pelosi stands up the other day and says- we need to bring the "fairness doctrine back." What? This 1940's piece of legislation was enacted at a time when most folks in rural areas had little access to television, therefore, they listened almost exclusively to radio broadcast. The "fairness doctrine" states that equal time and an opposing view point MUST be presented (on radio broadcasts) or they may not air at all. Bringing it back now, will accomplish one agenda only. It will serve to effectively stifle all conservative talk radio. I find this very troubling, indeed. Is the country in danger of losing all the freedoms we have fought for just so the Democrats and Liberals can now step in and tell all of us what is or isn't good for us? What's fair or not fair for all of us? And they're doing it all under the guise of a selected few making all the rules for the betterment and advancement of the masses. What's really going on here?
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Posted: Wed Oct 22nd, 2008 04:29 pm |
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Here's an interesting post from a Chron.com] <http://chron.com/> reader: 'Listening to the mainstream media these last few days I've learned a few things about the GOP's VP nominee but also had to learn a few things on my own. To wit:
1. From the media I learned Sarah Palin's husband has a DUI conviction from 22 years ago. * On my own I learned that Ted Kennedy (hero of last week's tribute at the DNC) was drunk while driving a car off a bridge in Chappaquiddick. That same crash killed a young campaign volunteer with whom he was having an affair. Oh, and that woman was pregnant with his child. * Mr. Palin's (who is not running for office) DUI came a mere 4 years after Barack Obama (who is running for president) stopped using cocaine and marijuana (by his own admission in his autobiography). Shocking - it's OK for the presidential candidate to use drugs or the party patriarch to kill someone while driving drunk yet the husband of a VP candidate should be demonized for something done 22 years ago.
2. From the media I learned that Sarah Palin's daughter is pregnant. * On my own I learned that Joe Biden's (the other VP candidate) son was paid a large amount of money as a consultant to credit card company MBNA. That same company had business before Senator Joe Biden concerning regulation of consumer credit practices. After the compa ny paid a hefty sum to Mr. Biden's son, he voted in favor of legislation to help that company. * That same son, Hunter, is also engaged in a legal investigation and suit for defrauding a former business partner Shocking - it's a crime for the republican VP candidate to have a child who's pregnant even though it's irrelevant to how she performs her job. It's OK, however, for the democrat VP candidate while a senator to vote in favor of a company who paid his son over a quarter of a million dollars.
3. From the media I learned that Sarah Palin should be considered 'selfish' for agreeing to run for VP knowing about her daughter's condition. Knowing that her public role would bring extr a scrutiny on the family is selfish and she should have declined to protect her child (actually heard this on ABC this weekend). Strange - the same people who said Sarah is selfish for running for VP did not seem to care about any impact on Chelsea when Bill Clinton had his dalliance with Monica Lewinsky. That was a private, personal matter you see.
4. From the media I have learned to be 'concerned' that Sarah Palin probably won't be able to manage her family and do an effective job of being VP at the same time. Funny - I never heard anything about Hillary's ability to support Chelsea while re-doing healthcare or any of the other feminist icons who say you can balance work and family. They also nev er mention that Barack will have to balance time with his children while meeting with heads of rogue nations or how Joe Biden's kids don't even have a mom and will be fighting for his time while he hosts white house coffee fundraisers and sells nights in the Lincoln bedroom.
5. From the media I have learned that Sarah Palin is 'too inexperienced' to be a heartbeat-away from the presidency. * Apparently taking on corruption in your own party and running a state that's the same size people-wise as delaware (hint hint: that's where Joe Biden is from) is not really experience. * However, time spent as a 'community organizer' and less than 180 days in the senate where you've authored no significant legislation is just the type of 'change' we're looking for from the top of the ticket. Funny - inexperience at the top of the ticket is a mantra for 'change' and 'hope' while strong practical everyday experience as the #2 is cause for concern.
6. From the media I learned that Sarah Palin's husband once got a ticket for fishing without a license. * I haven't heard much about the fact that if he were still a practicing attorney, the VP candidate Joe Biden would be disbarred for plagiarism not once but multiple times. It's ok to break the rules if you're a democ rat candidate but not Ok if you are the spouse of a republican candidate.
7. From the media I learned that Sarah Palin doesn't know much about Iraq ; in fact we wonder if she even knows where it is. * Sarah's son volunteered into the US military and is now deployed in Iraq . I guess that doesn't count. Sarah has spent more time with troops in Iraq (as commander of the Alaska National Guard she visited Iraq last year) than Obama has even while running for president. In fact, when Sarah went to Iraq she spent time with the troops. When Obama went there, he skipped a base visit to instead go work out at the Ritz Carlton.
8. From the media I learned that Sarah Palin is a 'lightweight' and she better be a 'quick study' to keep up with this team. Funny, nobody is talking about how, after Barack Obama had 'visited 57 states' according to him he only had '5 more to go' or e ndless other stupid gaffes that expose who he really is.
9. From the media I have learned that (gasp!), Sarah Palin's husband was once a registered member of a 3rd party that favored states' rights (man, this is really bad stuff). * That same media has been silent to the story that when Barack Obama announced his first senate run, he did so in the home of William Ayers. Mr. Ayers is an un-repentant terrorist convicted for bombing the pentagon. This same Mr. Ayers said on 9/11 that he and his group did not do enough to harm our military and he wished he had done more. During the same time as that comment, he was serving on a board with Barack Obama. All notes and information about their serving together is now locked up by the corrupt Chicago machine and reporter access to those records are being blocked by the Obama campaign. If we've had any doubts about the bias of the media, it's pretty clear now where they stand. Pass this on to some of your friends who are on the fence and who get all their information from Katie Couric, Wolf Blitzer, Tom Brokaw and the gang. This is egregious and corrupt. The only way to stop it is to spread information using other outlets and make these guys irrelevant.'
Posted to Houston Chronicle by: Luis Morales at September 27, 2008 08:25 AM
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Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 10:38 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: The media needs Obama bcause the current administration has refused to cow-tow and entertain them at dinners and events. Obama needs the media, because without them he is only fluff.
Really? Have you seen the clips of Bush at the White House Press Corps dinners? There are quite a few of them entertaining the media with his monologues. You are once again your usual wrong self.
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