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 Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 07:42 am
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Helen here wrote: Writing checks his @$$  can't cash , plain enough?

 

There's always McCains approach of cashing checks that aint been written.Why do you think the CEO's are getting by with murder and becoming billionaires while investors and employees get the shaft? You obviously lack perspective. I would take Obama at any price as the topic states because in the long run it's cheaper and a whole lot more ethical than the price tag on Mccain.

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Playing the Game wrote: Spoken like a true psychotic.  Haldol was the giveaway.

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Have you skipped taking Haldol? What does the Communist Manifesto have to do with anything? What about alien clones?

Pretty soon someone's going to stumble on this blog and then they really will be giving away Haldol.

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Spoken like a true psychotic.  Haldol was the giveaway.

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Have you skipped taking Haldol? What does the Communist Manifesto have to do with anything? What about alien clones?

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Idaho Observer wrote: Fred wrote: Except, that of course, is isn't just a matter of civility. It is a matter of providing a balanced tax cut.

What people like those you quote forget to mention is the amount of the increased taxes on those who make more than 250K.  While you can argue that ANY tax increase is bad, even in a time of deficit spending, you have to look at the exact percentage of increase that Obama is talking about rather than just blathering about a tax increase.

However, I will give credit that there is acknowledgement that Obama's tax cuts will help 95% of Americans.
You're dreaming.  Second plank of the Communist Manifesto is a heavy, progressive income tax.  We 95% will take a big hit,

Have you skipped taking Haldol? What does the Communist Manifesto have to do with anything? What about alien clones?

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Fred wrote: Except, that of course, is isn't just a matter of civility. It is a matter of providing a balanced tax cut.

What people like those you quote forget to mention is the amount of the increased taxes on those who make more than 250K.  While you can argue that ANY tax increase is bad, even in a time of deficit spending, you have to look at the exact percentage of increase that Obama is talking about rather than just blathering about a tax increase.

However, I will give credit that there is acknowledgement that Obama's tax cuts will help 95% of Americans.
You're dreaming.  Second plank of the Communist Manifesto is a heavy, progressive income tax.  We 95% will take a big hit,

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Except, that of course, is isn't just a matter of civility. It is a matter of providing a balanced tax cut.

What people like those you quote forget to mention is the amount of the increased taxes on those who make more than 250K.  While you can argue that ANY tax increase is bad, even in a time of deficit spending, you have to look at the exact percentage of increase that Obama is talking about rather than just blathering about a tax increase.

However, I will give credit that there is acknowledgement that Obama's tax cuts will help 95% of Americans.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 17th, 2008 08:04 pm
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Enlighten us as to what the Keating 5 has to do with V's post?  What was McCain's involvement?

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Vindicator wrote: On Sept. 8, Fox News broadcast an interview between Obama and Bill O’Reilly that focused on taxation and the economy. Obama repeated his pledge to cut taxes for 95 percent of Americans, while raising taxes on the tiny fraction who earn more than $250,000... His tax proposal, he explained, was a matter of civility: ‘If I am sitting pretty and you’ve got a waitress who is making minimum wage plus tips, and I can afford it and she can’t, what’s the big deal for me to say, I’m going to pay a little bit more? That’s neighborliness.’ If that is Obama’s rationale for making the tax code even more steeply progressive than it already is, it’s no wonder voters are having second thoughts about his economic aptitude. ‘Neighborliness.’ Perhaps that word has a nonstandard meaning to someone whose home adjoined the property of convicted swindler Tony Rezko, but extracting money by force from someone who earned it in order to give it to someone who didn’t is not usually spoken of as neighborly. If Citizen Obama, ‘sitting pretty,’ reaches into his own pocket and helps out the waitress with a large tip, he has shown a neighborly spirit. But there is nothing neighborly about using the tax code to compel someone else to pay the waitress that tip. Taxation is not generosity, it is confiscation at gunpoint. Does Obama not understand the difference? Perhaps he doesn’t. Eager though he may be to compel ‘neighborliness’ in others, he has not been nearly so avid about demonstrating it himself. Barack and Michelle Obama’s tax returns show that from 2000 through 2004, when their adjusted gross income averaged nearly a quarter of a million dollars a year, their annual charitable donations amounted to just $2,154—less than nine-tenths of 1 percent. Not until he entered the US Senate in 2005 and began to be spoken of as a presidential possibility did the Obamas’ ‘neighborliness’ become more evident. (In 2005-2007, they gave 5.5 percent of their income to charity.)” 
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Remember the Keating 5? Give us all a break will you? The issue facing the voters is who would better run this country. I believe that is Obama. I believe McBush will run it right into the ground.

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On Sept. 8, Fox News broadcast an interview between Obama and Bill O’Reilly that focused on taxation and the economy. Obama repeated his pledge to cut taxes for 95 percent of Americans, while raising taxes on the tiny fraction who earn more than $250,000... His tax proposal, he explained, was a matter of civility: ‘If I am sitting pretty and you’ve got a waitress who is making minimum wage plus tips, and I can afford it and she can’t, what’s the big deal for me to say, I’m going to pay a little bit more? That’s neighborliness.’ If that is Obama’s rationale for making the tax code even more steeply progressive than it already is, it’s no wonder voters are having second thoughts about his economic aptitude. ‘Neighborliness.’ Perhaps that word has a nonstandard meaning to someone whose home adjoined the property of convicted swindler Tony Rezko, but extracting money by force from someone who earned it in order to give it to someone who didn’t is not usually spoken of as neighborly. If Citizen Obama, ‘sitting pretty,’ reaches into his own pocket and helps out the waitress with a large tip, he has shown a neighborly spirit. But there is nothing neighborly about using the tax code to compel someone else to pay the waitress that tip. Taxation is not generosity, it is confiscation at gunpoint. Does Obama not understand the difference? Perhaps he doesn’t. Eager though he may be to compel ‘neighborliness’ in others, he has not been nearly so avid about demonstrating it himself. Barack and Michelle Obama’s tax returns show that from 2000 through 2004, when their adjusted gross income averaged nearly a quarter of a million dollars a year, their annual charitable donations amounted to just $2,154—less than nine-tenths of 1 percent. Not until he entered the US Senate in 2005 and began to be spoken of as a presidential possibility did the Obamas’ ‘neighborliness’ become more evident. (In 2005-2007, they gave 5.5 percent of their income to charity.)” 
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There is rarely a liberal who goes to the end of an argument they are losing. The first words from a liberal when losing is bigot :)

See Obama and all his supporters.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 17th, 2008 03:39 am
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You are spouting unintelligently Fred, take a Liberal pill (valium) and calm down

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Skjuda wrote: Want to know the definition of the word bigot? Here it is:

Big-ot: 1. adj. a conservative who is winning a debate with a liberal. See also:
Syn. intolerant, extremist, homophobe, anti-choice, Nazi.

You've got it so off. There probably is a word for a conservative who is winning a debate for a liberal, but it is so rarely called into use....

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Want to know the definition of the word bigot? Here it is:

Big-ot: 1. adj. a conservative who is winning a debate with a liberal. See also:
Syn. intolerant, extremist, homophobe, anti-choice, Nazi.

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Obama cited Ayers job as qualification to run
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75384


Report: Obama attempted to delay Iraq withdrawal
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75357

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Writing checks his @$$  can't cash , plain enough?

 

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Helen here wrote: Listening Obama speak

He reformed the whole Democrat's  Party and now he have changed the slogan Changed

Now that the Republicans have started using it , Obama is acting like they took his toy truck from him and he's acting like it doesn't bother him ( but he is crying about it ) So he is making promises to the American people that he can't deliver.

Who ever dubbed Barack Husssein Obama as the chosen one , and said he was running the ruler of the year wasn't to far off after the speech I just heard .

In fact what would both parties be speaking own if the last two days events didn't happen on Wall Street ?



Is there a thought in all of that?

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Listening Obama speak

He reformed the whole Democrat's  Party and now he have changed the slogan Changed

Now that the Republicans have started using it , Obama is acting like they took his toy truck from him and he's acting like it doesn't bother him ( but he is crying about it ) So he is making promises to the American people that he can't deliver.

Who ever dubbed Barack Husssein Obama as the chosen one , and said he was running the ruler of the year wasn't to far off after the speech I just heard .

In fact what would both parties be speaking own if the last two days events didn't happen on Wall Street ?


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The Insyder wrote: I remember a post not too long ago by either JP or Bixby about Judicial Watch investigating McCain.  I too am glad that we have a non-partisan group that goes after corruption in government. They are the guys spearheading legal action to free the two Border agents, Ramos and Compean.  They have an active suit against the Bush Administration for any and all documents relating to their arrest, trial and conviction.

Thunk! That was me fainting. Who woulda thunk we'd agree on anything?

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I remember a post not too long ago by either JP or Bixby about Judicial Watch investigating McCain.  I too am glad that we have a non-partisan group that goes after corruption in government. They are the guys spearheading legal action to free the two Border agents, Ramos and Compean.  They have an active suit against the Bush Administration for any and all documents relating to their arrest, trial and conviction.

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Apparently Judicial Watch is looking into several issues regarding McCain. Here is a quote from one on their website:

"Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it filed a formal complaint, dated April 22, 2008, with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) related to a fundraising luncheon held at London’s Spencer House to benefit Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign. The venue for the event was apparently donated to the campaign by foreign nationals, in violation of federal campaign finance laws."

Here's the link to the whole story:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2008/apr/judicial-watch-calls-fec-investigate-mccain-presidential-fundraising-luncheon-held-lon

Here's the link to several stories:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/search/node/john+mccain

 

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Bixby wrote: Kirk, you are making it seem like a routine transaction while overlooking the fact that the focus of the investigation is to consider whether the special mortgage is disguised as an illegal corporate campaign contribution to Obama.  That certainly looks like it to me.  And what of O"Connells admission? Like it says, it goes beyond the loan.  If it was nothing but an ordinary mortgage loan, Judicial Watch would not waste time, money, and effort into it. 


I'm happy that there are watchdogs that look into these things. I read the info on Judicial Watch about this. I don;t think it will amount ot anything, but I have no objection to their looking into it.

I'm willing to bet that all of our elected officials get special consideration on loans and other things. I hope Judicial Watch looks into every loan given to every Senator for starters.

Do you know if they ever looked into McCain's involvement in the "Keating 5" scandal for which his was actually censured by the Senate Ethics Committee?

JP, I'm interested in your opinion on something a little closer to home. I believe Dover Downs provides a free skybox to Dover's elected officials and their guests. If that is the case, is that okay? Is that also a potential conflict of interest? Dover Downs has to go to the city for permits and other things.

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Kirk, you are making it seem like a routine transaction while overlooking the fact that the focus of the investigation is to consider whether the special mortgage is disguised as an illegal corporate campaign contribution to Obama.  That certainly looks like it to me.  And what of O"Connells admission? Like it says, it goes beyond the loan.  If it was nothing but an ordinary mortgage loan, Judicial Watch would not waste time, money, and effort into it. 

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juris: while a fascinating post - there are some factual issues missing. 

The down payment percentage is a major factor in the interest rates being quoted to an individual which may differ from market.  Someone walking into a mortgage with 20% to put down on the house is going to be quoted a rate that is below current market rates.  Your posting fails to mention that there was more than 20% equity position being made as a down payment.  One call to your local bank will verify that you too can be given preferential treatment - so when are you running for Senate so we can allege miscreant behavior?  I can see it now.... Oh the horror of it - he saved his money and bought a house that made reasonable financial sense by putting down more than 20% - clearly the result of a criminal enterprise as no one bothers to put down more than 20% on the purchase of a house anymore.  I could not vote for someone who saves their money to buy something they can afford (please add a note of sarcasm). 

Second - Senate terms are for 6 years - anyone walking into a bank with an employment contract that is good for at least 6 years and with a +95% likelihood of renewal (re-election) for another 6 years, is going to get quoted a rate that is below prevailing market rates.  Most people have, at best, annual contracts - and they are the basis for determining prevailing market rates.  For any of you out there with "at will" contracts, your rate will move to the higher end of market rates as you are more risky than someone with an extended contract (guaranteed income) who is clearly less risky than the prevailing market.

Much smoke, but no fire.  All elected officials, given their extended contracts, get below market rates for comparable down payments.  This has been the subject of regulatory inquiry for more years than Obama has been alive.  Thus far, there has been no reasonable solution.  Private citizens with larger down payments and/or extended contracts that guarantee income for several years will always get a better rate on a loan than the average.

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On July 8, 2008, Judicial Watch filed separate complaints with the FEC and the US Senate Ethics Committee, calling for separate investigations for allegedly accepting a below market rate mortgage loan in 2005 that was not available to the general consumer.  According to the complaint documents, Obama received a home loan of $1.32 million at a rate of 5.625%, although the average going mortgage rate on that day according to two different surveys was between 5.93% and 6%.  The special below-market “super super jumbo” loan, as described by the Washington Post, was secured without an origination fee or discount points, terms not available to the general public. To view the US Senate Complaint, log onto http://www.judicialwatch.org
“It appears that due to his position as a United States Senator, Barack Obama received improper special treatment from Northern Trust resulting in as illicit ‘gift’ which has a value of almost $125,000 in interest savings.  Judicial Watch therefore respectfully requests a full investigation into whether the special Northern Trust mortgage received by Senator Barack Obama constitutes a gift that is prohibited by Senate ethics rules.” (JW Complaint)
The relationship between Northern Trust and Obama goes far beyond this single mortgage loan.  Northern Trust supported Obama’s political campaigns since 1990.  According to the Center for Responsive Politics (cited by the Washington Post) Northern Trust employees have donated $71,000.  The Northern Trust PAC gave $1,250 to Obama’s 2004 campaign for the US Senate. 
Northern Trust VP John O’Connell essentially admitted that the company provided Obama preferential loan treatment because of his position in the US Senate.  “A person’s occupation and salary are two factors; I would expect those are two things we could take into consideration.  This was a business proposition for us.”  (John O’Connell to the Washington Post)

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The allegedly "prominent" Pennsylvania Democrat who filed the suit is an avowed Hillary Clinton supporter.  A similar suit has been filed in California by a San Fran group that I think(I could be wrong) has ties to Al Gore.

And yet another group has filed a similar suit against John McCain because he was born in Panama.

Yes, there is some question about Obama's birth certificate, but I think much of that stems from the idea he is embarrassed to let it be known his mother and father were not married at the time of his birth.

 

All of this nonsense is just that, NONSENSE.  If either were ineligible to hold the office of POTUS neither would be in the position they are at this point.  They would never have made it this far.

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I saw the crap about Obama's birth posted on one of Delaware's right wing blogs, and I have to give credit to the people who commented....who generally thought the lawsuit and the guy who is bringing it are both hairbrained. 

 

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I think these were some of Taos Eddy's last words on the forum too.

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Tweedlie Dee and Tweedlie Dum like to make up lies and claim its fun.

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A prominent Pennsylvania Democrat has sued Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, claiming that Obama is not a natural-born citizen and, therefore, is not eligible to be president of the United States. Read the latest now on Terrance wrote: Tweedlie Dee and Tweedlie Dum like to make up lies and claim its fun.
I can't think of anywhere that it says any candidate has to do anything other than be a natural born U.S. citizen at least 35 years of age.
Vindicator wrote: UNDER KENYAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, BARACK OBAMA IS A KENYAN CITIZEN:

There is a controversy about the citizenship status of Sen. Barack H. Obama and is compounded by the fact that Obama has steadfastly refused, or is unable, to produce a bona fide birth certificate stating that he was born in Hawii as his claim. This is similar to Sen. John Kerry’s refusal to release his military records during the “swiftboat” controversy.  etc...etc...
See Vindicator's post below.  Seems that some others are asking the same questions but this time the questionable citizenship is Indonesia.

Was Sen. Barack Obama a citizen of Indonesia at any point in his life?
That question has been circulating on the blogosphere with increased fury the past few days, ever since a photograph emerged of Obama's school registration papers as a child in Indonesia – the world's most populous Muslim nation – showing the presidential candidate listed as a "Muslim" with "Indonesian" citizenship.
Read the full story and take the related poll right now at WorldNetDaily.com!
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72656


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Tweedlie Dee and Tweedlie Dum like to make up lies and claim its fun.

I can't think of anywhere that it says any candidate has to do anything other than be a natural born U.S. citizen at least 35 years of age.

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I'll bet Kerry could pull up a swift boat and help him hide.

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Terrance wrote:I'll tell you what, you post your birth certificate and I'll get you a copy of Obama's.I aint required to show mine but that Obami feller sure is.  Kerry musta givin him some hints.

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Boo wrote: Terrance wrote: When Obama was a little boy, his mother moved to Indonesia. She married an Indonesian. Obama moved there with his mother and was placed in school there. He wrote openly about this in his first book. Try reading it. It's better than the trash you seem to feed on.

I'm sure if you were a young boy and your mother remarried and moved to another country, you would have stayed put and taken care of yourself.
So like, how cume he aint never wanted to present any kind of birth certificate from wherever?

I'll tell you what, you post your birth certificate and I'll get you a copy of Obama's.

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Terrance wrote: When Obama was a little boy, his mother moved to Indonesia. She married an Indonesian. Obama moved there with his mother and was placed in school there. He wrote openly about this in his first book. Try reading it. It's better than the trash you seem to feed on.

I'm sure if you were a young boy and your mother remarried and moved to another country, you would have stayed put and taken care of yourself.
So like, how cume he aint never wanted to present any kind of birth certificate from wherever?

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Playing the Game wrote: Give it a rest Terrance.
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

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Give it a rest Terrance.

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Newshound wrote: Vindicator wrote: UNDER KENYAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, BARACK OBAMA IS A KENYAN CITIZEN:

There is a controversy about the citizenship status of Sen. Barack H. Obama and is compounded by the fact that Obama has steadfastly refused, or is unable, to produce a bona fide birth certificate stating that he was born in Hawii as his claim. This is similar to Sen. John Kerry’s refusal to release his military records during the “swiftboat” controversy.  etc...etc...
See Vindicator's post below.  Seems that some others are asking the same questions but this time the questionable citizenship is Indonesia.

Was Sen. Barack Obama a citizen of Indonesia at any point in his life?
That question has been circulating on the blogosphere with increased fury the past few days, ever since a photograph emerged of Obama's school registration papers as a child in Indonesia – the world's most populous Muslim nation – showing the presidential candidate listed as a "Muslim" with "Indonesian" citizenship.
Read the full story and take the related poll right now at WorldNetDaily.com!
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72656


When Obama was a little boy, his mother moved to Indonesia. She married an Indonesian. Obama moved there with his mother and was placed in school there. He wrote openly about this in his first book. Try reading it. It's better than the trash you seem to feed on.

I'm sure if you were a young boy and your mother remarried and moved to another country, you would have stayed put and taken care of yourself.

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Vindicator wrote: UNDER KENYAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, BARACK OBAMA IS A KENYAN CITIZEN:

There is a controversy about the citizenship status of Sen. Barack H. Obama and is compounded by the fact that Obama has steadfastly refused, or is unable, to produce a bona fide birth certificate stating that he was born in Hawii as his claim. This is similar to Sen. John Kerry’s refusal to release his military records during the “swiftboat” controversy.  etc...etc...
See Vindicator's post below.  Seems that some others are asking the same questions but this time the questionable citizenship is Indonesia.

Was Sen. Barack Obama a citizen of Indonesia at any point in his life?
That question has been circulating on the blogosphere with increased fury the past few days, ever since a photograph emerged of Obama's school registration papers as a child in Indonesia – the world's most populous Muslim nation – showing the presidential candidate listed as a "Muslim" with "Indonesian" citizenship.
Read the full story and take the related poll right now at WorldNetDaily.com!
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72656

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Terrance wrote: Rightwinger wrote: Terrance wrote:  
Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.


You both can check out  this site  http://www.newmeat.com it gives campaign contribution information.


It the website you are talking about: http://www.newsmeat.com ? Have you checked out Snopes about the bs Habanero was propagating? Here's that link again:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

 


Sorry, I only had my first cup of coffee, it was a typo!  Yes, it is newsmeat.com

Thanks for correcting me, I think the site is very enlightening.  I have also added

snopes to my favorites list so I can verify some of the emails I have been getting.

I hope that others will do the same. I have corrected my post.

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Rightwinger wrote: Terrance wrote:  
Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.


You both can check out  this site  http://www.newmeat.com it gives campaign contribution information.


It the website you are talking about: http://www.newsmeat.com ? Have you checked out Snopes about the bs Habanero was propagating? Here's that link again:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

 

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Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.


You both can check out  this site  http://www.newsmeat.com it gives campaign contribution

information.

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Playing the Game wrote: Terrance, you used the term, what does it mean?

This was a term used by Habanero's bs source on bogus information about Obama. I merely pointed out what a bs source Habanero was ultimately relying on to slander Obama.

I could no sooner explain what that source's thought process was than I could explain why so many people seem to thrive on not only listening to bs but also propagating it.

By the way, are you still maintaining that the word "Jew" is a racial slur?

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Terrance, you used the term, what does it mean?

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Playing the Game wrote: So what are statanic stars?

Terrance wrote:
Habanero wrote: Terrance wrote:
Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.

The marxist is his cousin, the source is the government.


Try being a little more specific. I think you're full of it and I'm calling your bluff. In the meantime, here's what Snopes has on this bs:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

Good job, the author of this disinformation apparently once started a rumor that the stars on the U.S. flag were statanic.

You would have fit right in during the Salem witch hunts. Thank God we require more than just your word to condemn someone.


I don't know. Ask Habanero. This seems like its right up her alley.

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So what are statanic stars?

Terrance wrote:
Habanero wrote: Terrance wrote:
Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.

The marxist is his cousin, the source is the government.


Try being a little more specific. I think you're full of it and I'm calling your bluff. In the meantime, here's what Snopes has on this bs:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

Good job, the author of this disinformation apparently once started a rumor that the stars on the U.S. flag were statanic.

You would have fit right in during the Salem witch hunts. Thank God we require more than just your word to condemn someone.

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Habanero wrote: Terrance wrote:
Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.

The marxist is his cousin, the source is the government.


Try being a little more specific. I think you're full of it and I'm calling your bluff. In the meantime, here's what Snopes has on this bs:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

Good job, the author of this disinformation apparently once started a rumor that the stars on the U.S. flag were statanic.

You would have fit right in during the Salem witch hunts. Thank God we require more than just your word to condemn someone.

Last edited on Sun Aug 17th, 2008 12:12 am by Terrance

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Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.

The marxist is his cousin, the source is the government.

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Playing the Game wrote: Anyone who disagrees with Terrance politically speaks bs.  Best stick to pizza and Italian Ice.
Why didn't you respond to my post about your post about using the word "Jew"? How come you responded to a post in which I asked someone to provide their source of information?

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Anyone who disagrees with Terrance politically speaks bs.  Best stick to pizza and Italian Ice.

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Habanero wrote: Fred wrote:
Well, maybe because if he DOES cave in and post stuff that just about anybody can get, they will want more and more stuff...and sooner or later, they will ask him to provide something he can't produce.  If he provides or answers one charge, it will be "proof" to these yahoos when he ignores the more ridiculous ones he doesn't answer.


OK, Fred, I can see your point, but have to question who/what determines what is a "ridiculous charge" and what is not?

Is it ridiculous to question where the million dollars came from that he donated to a marxist running for office in Kenya, someone who wished to impose sharia law there, someone that he actually campaigned for in Kenya? 

I don't give a rat's rearend if he did drugs in college, or if his parents were or weren't married when he was born, those are ridiculous issues. 

Who is the Marxist he donated the money to. Name your source. This sounds like even more bs.

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Fred wrote:
Well, maybe because if he DOES cave in and post stuff that just about anybody can get, they will want more and more stuff...and sooner or later, they will ask him to provide something he can't produce.  If he provides or answers one charge, it will be "proof" to these yahoos when he ignores the more ridiculous ones he doesn't answer.


OK, Fred, I can see your point, but have to question who/what determines what is a "ridiculous charge" and what is not?

Is it ridiculous to question where the million dollars came from that he donated to a marxist running for office in Kenya, someone who wished to impose sharia law there, someone that he actually campaigned for in Kenya? 

I don't give a rat's rearend if he did drugs in college, or if his parents were or weren't married when he was born, those are ridiculous issues. 


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