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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 07:00 pm |
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Habanero wrote: Terrance wrote:
There seems to be no way for Obama to end any of the bs that is being said about him. A decent percentage of people still think he's a Muslim. The dual citizenship issue also extends to every Jew on the planet. Every Jew is automatically a citizen of Israel. Some countries just extend citizenship in that manner. It really is of no consequence.
Of course he can end the speculation, all he needs do is post the real document in the same place on his website where he had originally posted the, now discredited, COLB that was originally posted on the DailyKos website.
That he just doesn't say "here's my birth certificate" or "here's my COLB" to media to shut up all this nonsense remains beyond me. He's in Hawaii right now, it is the perfect opportunity (Photo-op, anyone?) for him to go to the Hall of Records, or whatever it is called there, and get a legit copy of either document and hold it up to the press. End of issue.
He was born in the United States to an American citizen - ergo, he is a natural born American citizen and thus eligible to hold the office of POTUS.
This is just all stupid nonsense and I have to wonder why it has not been shot down once and for all. It is distracting to the issues of the campaign and the true nature of how he sees how this country should be run----------or is that the whole idea of allowing this sillyness to continue? To keep sillyness at the forefront to mask his socialistic/marxist ideals from becoming the focus of this campaign.............
Well, maybe because if he DOES cave in and post stuff that just about anybody can get, they will want more and more stuff...and sooner or later, they will ask him to provide something he can't produce. If he provides or answers one charge, it will be "proof" to these yahoos when he ignores the more ridiculous ones he doesn't answer.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 03:01 am |
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Habanero wrote: Terrance wrote:
There seems to be no way for Obama to end any of the bs that is being said about him. A decent percentage of people still think he's a Muslim. The dual citizenship issue also extends to every Jew on the planet. Every Jew is automatically a citizen of Israel. Some countries just extend citizenship in that manner. It really is of no consequence.
Of course he can end the speculation, all he needs do is post the real document in the same place on his website where he had originally posted the, now discredited, COLB that was originally posted on the DailyKos website.
That he just doesn't say "here's my birth certificate" or "here's my COLB" to media to shut up all this nonsense remains beyond me. He's in Hawaii right now, it is the perfect opportunity (Photo-op, anyone?) for him to go to the Hall of Records, or whatever it is called there, and get a legit copy of either document and hold it up to the press. End of issue.
He was born in the United States to an American citizen - ergo, he is a natural born American citizen and thus eligible to hold the office of POTUS.
This is just all stupid nonsense and I have to wonder why it has not been shot down once and for all. It is distracting to the issues of the campaign and the true nature of how he sees how this country should be run----------or is that the whole idea of allowing this sillyness to continue? To keep sillyness at the forefront to mask his socialistic/marxist ideals from becoming the focus of this campaign.............
Like I say, there is nothing he can do to end the bs. For instance there are still a lot of people who like to call him a socialist or a Marxist. He is neither, but that will not stop either mean or misinformed people from referring to him as such.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 02:47 am |
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Terrance wrote:
There seems to be no way for Obama to end any of the bs that is being said about him. A decent percentage of people still think he's a Muslim. The dual citizenship issue also extends to every Jew on the planet. Every Jew is automatically a citizen of Israel. Some countries just extend citizenship in that manner. It really is of no consequence.
Of course he can end the speculation, all he needs do is post the real document in the same place on his website where he had originally posted the, now discredited, COLB that was originally posted on the DailyKos website.
That he just doesn't say "here's my birth certificate" or "here's my COLB" to media to shut up all this nonsense remains beyond me. He's in Hawaii right now, it is the perfect opportunity (Photo-op, anyone?) for him to go to the Hall of Records, or whatever it is called there, and get a legit copy of either document and hold it up to the press. End of issue.
He was born in the United States to an American citizen - ergo, he is a natural born American citizen and thus eligible to hold the office of POTUS.
This is just all stupid nonsense and I have to wonder why it has not been shot down once and for all. It is distracting to the issues of the campaign and the true nature of how he sees how this country should be run----------or is that the whole idea of allowing this sillyness to continue? To keep sillyness at the forefront to mask his socialistic/marxist ideals from becoming the focus of this campaign.............
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 01:08 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: There you go claiming to hate bigotry and racism and then making statements like this Terrance. Jew is not a nice term, it is slang for Jewish which I'm sure you meant to use, like "any member of the Jewish Faith". Something about a "high horse" and getting your butt off it.?
It is tantamount to me using the awful "N" word in describing someone of the negro race, or "whitey" for someone of the caucasian race.
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The dual citizenship issue also extends to every Jew on the planet. Every Jew is automatically a citizen of Israel.
You must be on another planet. Here is a quote from Israel's Foreign Affairs website:
"Israel is home to a widely diverse population from many ethnic, religious, cultural, and social backgrounds. A new society with ancient roots, it is still coalescing and evolving today. Of its 7.1 million people, 75.8 percent are Jews, 19.9 percent are Arabs (mostly Muslim) and the remaining 4.3 percent comprise Druze, Circassians, and others not classified by religion. The society is relatively young and is characterized by social and religious commitment, political ideology, economic resourcefulness, and cultural creativity, all of which contribute momentum to its continuing development."
They are describing their "People".
Better yet, check it out for yourself:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/People/SOCIETY.htm
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There you go claiming to hate bigotry and racism and then making statements like this Terrance. Jew is not a nice term, it is slang for Jewish which I'm sure you meant to use, like "any member of the Jewish Faith". Something about a "high horse" and getting your butt off it.?
It is tantamount to me using the awful "N" word in describing someone of the negro race, or "whitey" for someone of the caucasian race.
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The dual citizenship issue also extends to every Jew on the planet. Every Jew is automatically a citizen of Israel.
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Boo wrote: Terrance wrote: Vindicator, what you have posted is just plain garbage. By the way, if you had read Obama's first book, you would know that he never portrayed his father as an "ignorant goat herd" - far from it. How d'ya all know it's garbage? Maybe he aint said it in a book but at one of them there rally things. Caint tell it's shine lessen y'all drink it!
Does that handy rule of thumb apply to rat poison too?
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 11:55 pm |
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Habanero wrote: All this sillyness about whether or not Obama or McCain are Constitutionally eligible to be sworn in as President of the United States is just that: SILLYNESS.
No one can be that much of a conspiracy theorist as to actually believe their eligibility to serve as POTUS as not been vetted to the Nth.
Why the Obama camp has not put an end to the stupid speculation is beyond me. I don't doubt he has the actual documentation to end it, so the question remains, why doesn't he? So what if his mother wasn't married to his father, which to me is the only logical reason he has been hedging about providing the actual documentation?
Why he has continued to let this keep simmering under the surface is beyond me? He really should just end the speculation once and for all.
That he may have been an illigitimate child is the least of my concerns in regard to him and his possibly becoming POTUS. Why so many care about that escapes me.
There seems to be no way for Obama to end any of the bs that is being said about him. A decent percentage of people still think he's a Muslim. The dual citizenship issue also extends to every Jew on the planet. Every Jew is automatically a citizen of Israel. Some countries just extend citizenship in that manner. It really is of no consequence.
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I dont thonk the scrap is over OB's eligibility but more of his dual citizenship. Aint we got a right to know ehere his loyalties lie because he aint renounced his Kenyan citizenship. And whut about his birthin papers? How come he aint produced 'em?
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 08:48 pm |
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All this sillyness about whether or not Obama or McCain are Constitutionally eligible to be sworn in as President of the United States is just that: SILLYNESS.
No one can be that much of a conspiracy theorist as to actually believe their eligibility to serve as POTUS as not been vetted to the Nth.
Why the Obama camp has not put an end to the stupid speculation is beyond me. I don't doubt he has the actual documentation to end it, so the question remains, why doesn't he? So what if his mother wasn't married to his father, which to me is the only logical reason he has been hedging about providing the actual documentation?
Why he has continued to let this keep simmering under the surface is beyond me? He really should just end the speculation once and for all.
That he may have been an illigitimate child is the least of my concerns in regard to him and his possibly becoming POTUS. Why so many care about that escapes me.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 08:33 pm |
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Terrance wrote: Vindicator, what you have posted is just plain garbage. By the way, if you had read Obama's first book, you would know that he never portrayed his father as an "ignorant goat herd" - far from it. How d'ya all know it's garbage? Maybe he aint said it in a book but at one of them there rally things. Caint tell it's shine lessen y'all drink it!
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| Vindicator, what you have posted is just plain garbage. By the way, if you had read Obama's first book, you would know that he never portrayed his father as an "ignorant goat herd" - far from it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 05:41 pm |
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UNDER KENYAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, BARACK OBAMA IS A KENYAN CITIZEN:
There is a controversy about the citizenship status of Sen. Barack H. Obama and is compounded by the fact that Obama has steadfastly refused, or is unable, to produce a bona fide birth certificate stating that he was born in Hawii as his claim. This is similar to Sen. John Kerry’s refusal to release his military records during the “swiftboat” controversy. On February 8, 2007 in Chicago, a Chicago-based Internet journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin held a news conference which revealed that Senator Barack Obama is a citizen of Kenya and became a citizen of Kenya under the Independence Constitution of Kenya in 1963. Obama has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship. He is also a U. S. Citizen. Now when Obama announced during his many campaign speeches, that he feels qualified to lead the free world, ContrarianCommentary.com unleashed a worldwide team of constitutional law experts to delve into Kenyan law and the question of Obama’s citizenship. They were also participating in our CIA-style psychological profile of Obama that was released in Chicago. “And what we discovered was amazing, a political blockbuster,” says Executive Editor Andy Martin.
This is what was discovered but never covered by the MSM. Under the Independence Constitution of Kenya, Obama became a Kenyan citizen on December 12, 1963. He has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship. On his senate web site, Obama tap dances around his own dual nationality when discussing his father. Obama obviously knows, because his father told him, that he also held/holds Kenyan nationality.
So it comes into view, and not so surprising, is that the left wing, MSM is concealing fascinating information about his identity. There is nothing unusual about dual nationality. Indeed, ancient Roman Law doctrines of jus sanguini and jus soli come into play, because both Kenya and the U. S. recognize dual nationality. Once again, the issue is not ‘legality.’ The issue is the cover-up; Obama’s concealment of his own identity. From us, and most of all from himself.
Channel 2 in Chicago has run a 2007 series on “Do we know the real Barack Obama?” The problem is that they know but refuse to run anything contrary to Obama’s statements or to reveal anything that can be construed as harmful to him. Channel 2’s news is produced by the same old hacks that take spoon-feeding from Obama & Co.
Why is this disclosure of his lifelong deceit and concealment not being exposed by the MSM? “Obama’s attempts to portray his father as an ignorant ‘goat herd,’ moreover, were part of his attempts at ‘identity theft’ against his own father, designed to create an imaginary picture of Barack Sr. It is inconceivable that Obama’s father was ignorant of Kenyan law, since he served as a government official and held a Ph.D. from Harvard. And it is inconceivable that Obama Sr. never told his son that he was a Kenyan national. Why has ‘junior’ hidden this information for decades?” (Andy Martin)
Do we, the American people, when deciding who to support for president, have a right to know if their ‘president’ is also a citizen of Kenya and owes dual loyalty to Kenya because he has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship.
During the expose, Martin said: “Further, I defy Obama or any of his flacks to defeat or deny the historical constitutional facts on which our blockbuster disclosures are based. We have nailed Barry O with his own hidden truths once again.” However, it barely received any news coverage in Chicago, and virtually none throughout the rest of the country. Why?
[size=Chicago-based Internet journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin is the Executive Editor and publisher of ContrarianCommentary.com. © Copyright by Andy Martin 2007. Martin covers national and world politics with forty years of personal experience. Columns also posted at politicalgateway.com; ContrarianCommentary.blogspot.com; contrariancommentary.wordpress.com. Comments? E-mail:][size=AndyMart20@aol.com][size=. Media contact: (866) 706-2639.]
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The Book Obama Nation has send words flying
http://ednews.org/articles/27835/1/NEW-BOOK-THE-OBAMA-NATION-LEFTIST-POLITICS-AND-THE-CULT-OF-PERSONALITY/Page1.html
Obama's rebuttal on Obama Nation
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200808152022.htm
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Terrance wrote:I never heard of David Freddoso so I Googled his name and here's what I found:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/david-freddoso-fails-to-m_b_117697.html
Newshound, why do you post this garbage? Don't you know the difference between a reported and a hitman? Yeah. I thought that hitmen were exclusive to the Huffington Post. But, as we can observe, not ever hearing about an author qualifies one to go to an excellent source such as the HP so one can demean the messinger rather than disputing the story.
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It was Barack Obama who first brought his family into discussion at more than one of his campaign stops.
Playing the Game wrote: I have sufficent reasons to dislike both McCain and Obama without bringing thier family into the fray. Both have piss poor judgement and neither deserves my vote. This is probably the worst selection I have been presented since I first voted for Nixon in '72.
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Newshound wrote: EXCLUSIVE: Interview with David Freddoso,
Author of 'The Case Against Barack Obama'
By Michelle Oddis
Michelle Oddis: Dave, you're a reporter, not a columnist. You've worked very hard to dig into the Obama story. You've said that you started reporting on Barack Obama in 2004. After all this research, what do you think is the most important thing people should know about Sen. Obama?
David Freddoso: The main lesson is that Barack Obama's record, throughout his career, demonstrates conclusively that he has never been a reformer, that this image of "change and hope" that he projects is really a great lie. In fact there's never been a single time in Senator Obama's political career where he did something that was difficult and would cost him politically for the sake of needed reforms and change.
Read the Full Story Here
I never heard of David Freddoso so I Googled his name and here's what I found:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/david-freddoso-fails-to-m_b_117697.html
Newshound, why do you post this garbage? Don't you know the difference between a reported and a hitman?
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EXCLUSIVE: Interview with David Freddoso,
Author of 'The Case Against Barack Obama'
By Michelle Oddis
Michelle Oddis: Dave, you're a reporter, not a columnist. You've worked very hard to dig into the Obama story. You've said that you started reporting on Barack Obama in 2004. After all this research, what do you think is the most important thing people should know about Sen. Obama?
David Freddoso: The main lesson is that Barack Obama's record, throughout his career, demonstrates conclusively that he has never been a reformer, that this image of "change and hope" that he projects is really a great lie. In fact there's never been a single time in Senator Obama's political career where he did something that was difficult and would cost him politically for the sake of needed reforms and change.
Read the Full Story Here
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Playing the Game wrote: I have sufficent reasons to dislike both McCain and Obama without bringing thier family into the fray.
Both have piss poor judgement and neither deserves my vote. This is probably the worst selection I have been presented since I first voted for Nixon in '72.
I actually used to like McCain a lot. I think he has sold his soul for the nomination and I no longer have any respect for him. I like Obama. I'm not am Obama maniac, and truth be told, I have no love for either party. Obama has yet to disappoint me as McCain has.
I find myself defending Obama because I believe he has been unfairly attacked. I also think that a lot of the attacks are simply based upon his race.
I don't like the Clintons. Never did.
I think we're in a mess and I really don't know if we'll get out of it. I wish we could discuss this whole situation without attacking each other. People can agree to disagree.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 01:54 am |
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I have sufficent reasons to dislike both McCain and Obama without bringing thier family into the fray.
Both have piss poor judgement and neither deserves my vote. This is probably the worst selection I have been presented since I first voted for Nixon in '72.
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Playing the Game wrote: I didn't think we were electing either candidates family.
We're not.
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| I didn't think we were electing either candidates family.
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Tank wrote: The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
Semper Fi
You might want to think about all you've said. There are a lot of white Americans who are the decendants of slave owners. I also doubt you can make any statement about Obama's family history. You have no idea what they did.
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The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
Semper Fi
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Campaign watch: Lots of nonsense
Barack Obama, as expected, has declined John McCain’s offer to participate in a series of 10 town hall meetings this fall. Obama, no doubt wondering how he would coherently expound upon “change we can believe in” when put on the spot by audience members, has committed only to the three debates scheduled by the Commission on Presidential Debates.
Obama also angered some black groups this week by “clarifying” his earlier position on slavery reparations. Earlier, when asked about the possibility of an apology and reparations for slavery and the Jim Crow era, he spoke about backing up words with deeds. He now says that an apology would not necessarily benefit black Americans, and that reparations might be a “distraction,” presumably from real change. No wonder he doesn’t want to participate in McCain’s town hall meetings—he doesn’t dare to walk this particular tightrope, or others, without his trusty teleprompter.
On the lighter side of things, the McCain campaign has been hitting Obama on all sides with humor. For example, Obama offered last week this money-saving tip: Americans should make sure their tires are properly inflated. While this maintenance practice does indeed improve gas mileage, it is hardly the sort of substantive suggestion we should be hearing from a presidential candidate. McCain senior aid Mark Slater soon began handing out tire gauges that read “Obama’s Energy Plan.” Who said the energy crisis isn’t funny?
The big buzz, of course, is that in a new ad, McCain compared Obama to celebrities Britney Spears and Paris Hilton. The ad called Obama “the biggest celebrity in the world” and asked if he was ready to lead. Hilton’s mother jumped to her defense, criticizing the ad. Oddly enough, she and her husband have donated $4,600 to McCain’s campaign. We think astute political analyst Jay Leno got this one right: “Of all the videos Paris Hilton has been in, this is the one mom’s upset about?
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China IS suffering; take a look at the "mist" that seems to hang around the games.
Maybe McCain's advisors were right....we are a nation of whiners. If you think "suffering" is turning down the thermostat 3 degrees, wearing a sweater, not drivign like a bat out of hell, being incovienced by 15 minutes to take public transportation, paying a nickle or dime a more for renewable energy, giving up your HUMMV to take Muffy and Biff to school....yes, you are a whiner.
I reserve suffering for a bit different set of human conditions. I've seen a bit of it, and few Americans suffer...thank God.
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Is BHO reaching for the stars or T-bones Pickens pockets.
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/on-energy-barack-obama-and-t-b.html
If he is flipping for this, he surly will be a flop.
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 02:43 am |
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Well, that is not all of it, Cobra. It is a bit more then that, which means everything after your first few sentences are balderdash.
Get his whole energy program and criticize it...but do it yourself, and don't be a dittohead.
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Posted: Thu Aug 7th, 2008 02:36 am |
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Did you hear Barack Hussein Obama's solution to the high price of gasoline? Dig what his energy policy is -- in his own words! In plain English, Obama's energy policy is for you to eat less, drive a small death-trap of a car and let your family freeze in the winter. Or to put it another way, it's the same old elitist liberal gobbledygook. The Democrat Pablum pukers just love this. The problem is not that you are being forced to pay over $4.00 for a gallon of gasoline at the pump... the problem is not that your family is facing the prospect of a long cold winter because of rising energy costs... the problem is not that you're paying insanely high prices for food at the grocery store because of rising energy costs and the dumb “Ethanol Mandate”. The problem is "bitter" folks like YOU that "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like [you]" AREN'T SUFFERING ENOUGH! If you just suffered MORE, then maybe you wouldn't be "apathetic" or "cling to guns or religion."
Come on. Let's increase suffering in America. Let's conserve and save energy so China, India and other countries can have more. After all, THEY DESERVE IT... we don't. The United States of America is nothing more than a rich and arrogant nation whose day in the sun has passed. And just MAYBE -- once we realized the folly of our evil and despicable ways -- third-world dictators and petty tyrants around the world will start to like us. Does this kind of liberal hate-America arrogance remind you of Jimmy Carter?
In the 70's when we waited in long lines for hours to get our ration of gasoline in the summer and watched our families freeze in the winter, Jimmy Carter told us to lower our thermostats and put on a sweater. Essentially he told us to get used to the fact that the United States of America was no longer a great nation. The Wall Street Journal apparently saw the parallels:
"For a candidate claiming the mantle of 'change,' Mr. Obama's energy policy might as well have been drafted in the 1970s. He supports punitive new windfall profits taxes on Big Oil, which won't do anything for supply; as well as at least $10 billion a year in new subsidies for 'alternative' energy technologies, which may take years or decades to pan out, if they ever do."
Here's the problem:
If President George W. Bush or some other conservative made such an arrogant statement which -- in my opinion (and I'm sure in yours too) -- shows a deep-seated undercurrent of disdain for the American way of life, it would be on the front page of the New York Times and the lead story on every major television network. But President Bush didn't make that statement... Barack Hussein Obama did and the media is SILENT! The vast majority of Americans (Republicans, Democrats and Independents) will NEVER KNOW HE UTTERED THOSE WORDS. No media bias? Hah!
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Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 07:10 pm |
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Was Alabama one of those voter fraud states ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/us/10fraud.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSWBT00831620080206
Didn't OBAMA win Alabama ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuSRHULueRc
Crack and Change
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 09:10 pm |
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| Maybe Lyndon Larouche can verify it along with worldnet
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 06:31 pm |
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Idaho Observer wrote: Newshound wrote: Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign, violating U.S. laws. Find out more at WorldNetDaily.com now: You guys with your one liners have missed this one and I rank it serious enough to be up there with Clinton's selling China computer technology in exchange for campaign donations. Don't forget Al Gore and the Asian nuns, not to mention Hillary's questionable camp[aign donations. So why would Palestinian Muslims donate top the Obama Campaign? How do you think it would serve their best interests?
It might be nice to see this reported somewhere other than on the linked website that was offered.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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Newshound wrote: Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign, violating U.S. laws. Find out more at WorldNetDaily.com now: You guys with your one liners have missed this one and I rank it serious enough to be up there with Clinton's selling China computer technology in exchange for campaign donations. Don't forget Al Gore and the Asian nuns, not to mention Hillary's questionable camp[aign donations. So why would Palestinian Muslims donate top the Obama Campaign? How do you think it would serve their best interests?
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 03:26 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: Since you have offerred nothing in return.........no
Maybe I could just bust your chops every now and then.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:29 am |
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Fred wrote: Rand is many things, but I doubt that socialist is a new one. She is more of an individualists individual.....Ron Paul on steroids.
I chose to let that one go. I wasn't ready for any explanation that equated Rand with socialism.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:27 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: Might this be of what you speak?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE4DB1139F937A15755C0A9629C8B63
Nope. Never even heard of it before. I was thinking of your comments in which you also mentioned your humanitarian contributions.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:27 am |
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Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign, violating U.S. laws. Find out more at WorldNetDaily.com now:
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:26 am |
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| Rand is many things, but I doubt that socialist is a new one. She is more of an individualists individual.....Ron Paul on steroids.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:23 am |
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Might this be of what you speak?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE4DB1139F937A15755C0A9629C8B63
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:20 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: Nah! Rand is a Socialist, my Universalist Unitarian sister likes her though. I could put you in touch.
I thought about what someone such as myself had to offer. Then I remembered that you were sitting on a horde of gold and realized that there was nothing you don't already have.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:17 am |
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| Nah! Rand is a Socialist, my Universalist Unitarian sister likes her though. I could put you in touch.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:14 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: Since you have offerred nothing in return.........no
I was simply clarifying what you meant when you called me your friend. I guess you are also a fan of Atlas Shrugged.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:11 am |
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| Since you have offerred nothing in return.........no
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 07:31 pm |
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Playing the Game wrote: Wrong song Terrance. I react this way to Liberals regardless of race, creed or nationl origin. You my friend are the one who brought race into the equation. But then, that is what Liberals do. It gives them something to point a finger at and defend.
Are we friends now?
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 07:14 pm |
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Wrong song Terrance. I react this way to Liberals regardless of race, creed or nationl origin. You my friend are the one who brought race into the equation. But then, that is what Liberals do. It gives them something to point a finger at and defend.
Terrance wrote:
Playing the Game wrote: I guess none of you have an answer....... Must be I found the correct question.
Wow, you did it. You found the correct question. You really knocked us all for a loop. On the other hand, you keep swinging back and forth between issues and choose to answer either nothing or only a part of what's asked.
If nothing else, I would know Obama was black by the way you're reacting to his campaign. Obama has drawn all those who have a problem with a black President out of the woodwork and onto the blogs.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 05:34 pm |
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If he didn't "stage" it, people would accuse him of trying to "play down".
There was something leaked by a Republican strategist that indicated that IF Obama had met with the troops in the hospital, they had the press blitz ready to go accusing him of using the troops as a media prop.
At some point, we are going to stop paying attention to all the charges and counter charges about why or how something is done. I think the carrier landing by GWB that I think you are alluding to may have been the last staged photo op that one can get away with.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 05:01 pm |
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Now BHO is into staging ! Is he pulling a Bush ?
Watching Fox , I see the BHO who would not wear a flag on his lapel a few years ago has 6 big flags behind him as he speaks.
And he also forgets that he is also part of the Washington group who is stopping the drilling , though he has changed his mind in the last 24 hours.
Something all should know BHO and JSM have both received monies from the oil companies profits for their campaign
Pot calling kettle black , damn I hope I don't get busted for using the race card.
Seem listening to BHO , JSM should just pack up and give in . BHO seems to be thinking, if I say it will happen it will
Reminds me of the book of Genesis, maybe with all the hype BHO is actually believing he is the chosen one.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Playing the Game wrote: I guess none of you have an answer....... Must be I found the correct question.
Wow, you did it. You found the correct question. You really knocked us all for a loop. On the other hand, you keep swinging back and forth between issues and choose to answer either nothing or only a part of what's asked.
If nothing else, I would know Obama was black by the way you're reacting to his campaign. Obama has drawn all those who have a problem with a black President out of the woodwork and onto the blogs.
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Posted: Mon Aug 4th, 2008 03:49 am |
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