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Posted: Wed Sep 17th, 2008 10:33 pm |
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| Liberal Media Headline of the Day: 'Whites help McCain to slim lead' -- Typical liberal media to run that as the headline in a story that reported this fact: 'Fully 47 percent say Obama lacks the proper experience - an even worse reading than the 36 percent who had the same criticism about McCain running mate Sarah Palin, serving her second year as Alaska governor after being a small-town mayor.' Liberal fallback is to bring race into the equation.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27th, 2008 02:59 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: I have severe doubts that Andy Rooney said any such thing. Please provide exact dates and maybe a video or audio link.
You're totally correct and a quick check of snopes proves it.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney4.asp
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 10:57 pm |
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| I have severe doubts that Andy Rooney said any such thing. Please provide exact dates and maybe a video or audio link.
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This ought to make youy liberals puke up your Pablum.
Andy Rooney said on '60 Minutes' a few weeks back:
I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers.. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, which is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE ?
I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.
When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.
I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!
My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
I think the police should have every right to shoot you if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the above lines.
I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.
We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.
I don't hate the rich; I don't pity the poor
I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.
It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say 'NO!'
I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!
I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa ; so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else
And if you don't like my point of view, tough..
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Playing the Game wrote: Hab - Have you been away so long that you let Mendavor get to you? When he is ignored he goes away. I recall a wise farmer on the Eastern Shore in Virginia who told me that a long time ago.
You got me on that one, my friend. You're right, I stand corrected and will, in the future, follow my own advice 
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| Way to go Terrance, keep feeding the troll.
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Fred wrote: One of the few bits of advice that I have taken from CR is to totally ignore him. You hit the nail on the head, Hab, when you described him earlier as soemone playing an extreme leftie pretending how everyone on the left is just like him.
I think he's an extreme rightie pretending to be an extreme leftie.
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One of the few bits of advice that I have taken from CR is to totally ignore him. You hit the nail on the head, Hab, when you described him earlier as soemone playing an extreme leftie pretending how everyone on the left is just like him.
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| Hab - Have you been away so long that you let Mendavor get to you? When he is ignored he goes away. I recall a wise farmer on the Eastern Shore in Virginia who told me that a long time ago.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 07:35 pm |
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Mendavor wrote: Please people. Yes I am ignorant of the letters ESAD but that just signifies not knowing. But lately looking at Terrance and his attempt to hide behind a centrist shield, that is stupidity. There is the difference. Stupid is knowing and still acting on that knowledge as if you had no knowledge. Ignorance is not having the knowledge in the first place. So if someone willl, please explain "ESAD." Terrance, you always criticize people for not answering your questions.
If you actually think that Terrance is hiding behind a centrist shield you are far beyond stupidity and into the realm of ignorance. Of course, most of your posts prove both of those.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 07:11 pm |
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Mendavor wrote: Prove it. Your bluff does not work.
You ask me not to respond to your posts, then you ask me to respond. Which is it? ESAD
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Prove it. Your bluff does not work.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 07:03 pm |
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Mendavor wrote: I know who you are. ESAD Then do what you must do. Swiftboat me and expose me on this blog. When you make your real name public, then so will I.
I have no need to expose you. You are doing a good job of that yourself. You are no where near as clever as you think you are. ESAD
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I know who you are. ESAD Then do what you must do. Swiftboat me and expose me on this blog. When you make your real name public, then so will I.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 06:57 pm |
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Mendavor wrote: Terrance wrote: Mendavor wrote: Please people. Yes I am ignorant of the letters ESAD but that just signifies not knowing. But lately looking at Terrance and his attempt to hide behind a centrist shield, that is stupidity. There is the difference. Stupid is knowing and still acting on that knowledge as if you had no knowledge. Ignorance is not having the knowledge in the first place. So if someone willl, please explain "ESAD." Terrance, you always criticize people for not answering your questions.
You have 2 identities on this blog. I don't deal with double dealers. ESAD I need only one. Just who do you think I am. Hertz?
I know who you are. ESAD
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Terrance wrote: Mendavor wrote: Please people. Yes I am ignorant of the letters ESAD but that just signifies not knowing. But lately looking at Terrance and his attempt to hide behind a centrist shield, that is stupidity. There is the difference. Stupid is knowing and still acting on that knowledge as if you had no knowledge. Ignorance is not having the knowledge in the first place. So if someone willl, please explain "ESAD." Terrance, you always criticize people for not answering your questions.
You have 2 identities on this blog. I don't deal with double dealers. ESAD I need only one. Just who do you think I am. Hertz?
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Mendavor wrote: Please people. Yes I am ignorant of the letters ESAD but that just signifies not knowing. But lately looking at Terrance and his attempt to hide behind a centrist shield, that is stupidity. There is the difference. Stupid is knowing and still acting on that knowledge as if you had no knowledge. Ignorance is not having the knowledge in the first place. So if someone willl, please explain "ESAD." Terrance, you always criticize people for not answering your questions.
You have 2 identities on this blog. I don't deal with double dealers. ESAD
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Please people. Yes I am ignorant of the letters ESAD but that just signifies not knowing. But lately looking at Terrance and his attempt to hide behind a centrist shield, that is stupidity. There is the difference. Stupid is knowing and still acting on that knowledge as if you had no knowledge. Ignorance is not having the knowledge in the first place. So if someone willl, please explain "ESAD." Terrance, you always criticize people for not answering your questions.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 05:16 pm |
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Terrance wrote: Mendavor wrote: I am ignorant of the letters, "ESAD." You see fit to attach it to my posts so please explain.
I wholeheartedly agree with the first 3 words in your first sentence.
YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!! Something we can agree upon, Terrance!!!!
Personsally I don't think s/h/it actually believes the drivel s/h/it posts. It reads more to me as if s/h/it is posting to show the idiocy of the VERY far left extremism, which tends to circle around and meet the VERY far-right extremism.
The far end of either is not a comfortable place to be.
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Mendavor wrote: I am ignorant of the letters, "ESAD." You see fit to attach it to my posts so please explain.
I wholeheartedly agree with the first 3 words in your first sentence.
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I am ignorant of the letters, "ESAD." You see fit to attach it to my posts so please explain.
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Mendavor wrote: Why should he? Especially when this country represents the evil ills of a greedy society run amok. Sen. Obama's patriotism and loyalty rests with the people and not just some anthem or even a flag. The anthem is just words. The flag is just cloth. We should all be shouting power to the people. Change is what we will get once all of you realize that the day of the Reopublican financiers are gone. With a fair and just government on control many of the things that plage us would never have happened. The Russians failed in their experiments by not distributing wealth equally and there still was a ruling class. America can do a far better job by forming a union of soviet socialist states under the new Americanism. We should be s shining beacon of hope where racism would no longer exist. Anyone who finds anything wrong with what I post and with Obama's plan for a true utopian society proves my point.
ESAD
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Why should he? Especially when this country represents the evil ills of a greedy society run amok. Sen. Obama's patriotism and loyalty rests with the people and not just some anthem or even a flag. The anthem is just words. The flag is just cloth. We should all be shouting power to the people. Change is what we will get once all of you realize that the day of the Reopublican financiers are gone. With a fair and just government on control many of the things that plage us would never have happened. The Russians failed in their experiments by not distributing wealth equally and there still was a ruling class. America can do a far better job by forming a union of soviet socialist states under the new Americanism. We should be s shining beacon of hope where racism would no longer exist. Anyone who finds anything wrong with what I post and with Obama's plan for a true utopian society proves my point.
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The following is from FOX News:
Barack Obama Captured on Tape Not Putting His Hand Over His Heart During The National Anthem
Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Illinois Senator Barack Obama finds himself at the center of yet another controversy as conservatives continue their assault on his patriotism, if you can believe that.
The Democratic presidential hopeful is captured on film at a steak fry sponsored by Iowa Senator Tom Harkin. A closer look shows that Obama, unlike his Democratic colleagues, isn't putting his hand over his heart during the national anthem. Can you believe this? That's an outrage.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 11:50 am |
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New Source: The raw Story
Weeks after coming under fire for his refusal to wear an American flag pin, Democratic presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama is again facing questions about his patriotism from some conservative blogs -- this time for apparently failing to put his hand over his heart during a rendition of the national anthem at an Iowa campaign event.
A video of the event in question, obtained by ABC News, shows Obama with his hands firmly clasped in front of him during the song. Meanwhile, rival Democratic candidates Gov. Bill Richardson (D-AZ) and Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) strike a traditional anthem pose beside him, holding their right hands over their hearts.
Now this one states that he wount wear an American Flag on his Lapel but he did cover his heart all this after the time he refused to place his hand over his heart.
More to Follow on this. So I say that all these statments are not Jibberish
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I've served this country for over 25 years, and I take a few minutes to understand what the allegations about Obama not saluting the flag, or supposedly not supporting veterans. None of it is true, can be explained, or is like those "funny" pictures of John Kerry with his left hand on his right side...simply photographic tricks that mouth breathers believe.
I do know that McCain has not voted for several veteran benefits bills which has caused his rating among veteran groups to slip. I am not blind, and I do believe that there should be a limit to what we give to veterans, especially Reservists, but McCain's explanations did not make sense.
Racism exists, but it is less than it was 20 years ago. People need to acknowledge that we've made fantastic progress, but we also have to realize we aren't at the end of the road, yet.
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Playing the Game wrote: In many scenarios, yes. Not this one.
Thanks for clarifying that you were imitating me.
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| In many scenarios, yes. Not this one.
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Playing the Game wrote: Give it a rest Terrance.
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."
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Give it a rest Terrance.
Terrance wrote:
Playing the Game wrote: But you are making blanket assumptions on that questionable information. As are any of us. So I guess it just comes down to ideology and we need to stop including the politician puppets of both parties.
On this blog it is ideology. All of the info is questionable. Unless you completely turn off all interest in current events and become apolitical, you will always be left with questionable information. The thing is to try and do your best with the info. There are consequences when we ignore what is happening or let ideology drive us.
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Blessed wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, I have read through most of the questions and answers listed here, the title of this blog was Racism 2008 and yet no one has addressed that topic. All have went after Presidential Candidate Barrack Obama. I will say this I served this country for over 20 years in our armed forces, The man did not, is he Black or White. His mother is a White woman unless all I have heard is wrong, so I guess he is both Black and White. My problem with him is not his service or his being Black it is his lack of thankfulness tob those of us who have served. He refused to salute the Flag (Something a Commander in Chief) should be willing to do. He even refused to shake hands with the soldiers in Iraq while he visited. He stated that if our National Anthem was We are the world or something like that he would salute OUR Flag. You Salute the Flag Not the Song and that song was written after a very famous battkle for our freedom. There is more to address on these topics about. If you wish to address racism then address that in the topic for Equality that I started earlier. There I make my case against racism.
Obviously you have not been blessed with an eye for bs. You are repeating gibberish.
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| Ladies and Gentlemen, I have read through most of the questions and answers listed here, the title of this blog was Racism 2008 and yet no one has addressed that topic. All have went after Presidential Candidate Barrack Obama. I will say this I served this country for over 20 years in our armed forces, The man did not, is he Black or White. His mother is a White woman unless all I have heard is wrong, so I guess he is both Black and White. My problem with him is not his service or his being Black it is his lack of thankfulness tob those of us who have served. He refused to salute the Flag (Something a Commander in Chief) should be willing to do. He even refused to shake hands with the soldiers in Iraq while he visited. He stated that if our National Anthem was We are the world or something like that he would salute OUR Flag. You Salute the Flag Not the Song and that song was written after a very famous battkle for our freedom. There is more to address on these topics about. If you wish to address racism then address that in the topic for Equality that I started earlier. There I make my case against racism.
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Playing the Game wrote: But you are making blanket assumptions on that questionable information. As are any of us. So I guess it just comes down to ideology and we need to stop including the politician puppets of both parties.
On this blog it is ideology. All of the info is questionable. Unless you completely turn off all interest in current events and become apolitical, you will always be left with questionable information. The thing is to try and do your best with the info. There are consequences when we ignore what is happening or let ideology drive us.
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| But you are making blanket assumptions on that questionable information. As are any of us. So I guess it just comes down to ideology and we need to stop including the politician puppets of both parties.
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Playing the Game wrote: You are basing this on what you have been told and read, since I don't think you have an office in the West Wing.
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Playing the Game wrote: So because they are Republicans or Conservatives they are mindless loyalists, but if they are Democrats or Liberals they are diverse thinkers?
No. That would be unfair to say. I don't think anyone has assembled an administration like this one in our lifetimes. Certainly the first Bush did not surround himself with yes men and allow his VP to call the shots. I had great respect for Powell and I wish he had stood his ground. In the end, even he caved to the pressures of this administration.
Of course I'm basing this on what I've read and tried to glean from numerous news sources. What's left to us other than that? I certainly am not basing it on casual conversations.
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You are basing this on what you have been told and read, since I don't think you have an office in the West Wing.
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Playing the Game wrote: So because they are Republicans or Conservatives they are mindless loyalists, but if they are Democrats or Liberals they are diverse thinkers?
No. That would be unfair to say. I don't think anyone has assembled an administration like this one in our lifetimes. Certainly the first Bush did not surround himself with yes men and allow his VP to call the shots. I had great respect for Powell and I wish he had stood his ground. In the end, even he caved to the pressures of this administration.
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Playing the Game wrote: So because they are Republicans or Conservatives they are mindless loyalists, but if they are Democrats or Liberals they are diverse thinkers?
No. That would be unfair to say. I don't think anyone has assembled an administration like this one in our lifetimes. Certainly the first Bush did not surround himself with yes men and allow his VP to call the shots. I had great respect for Powell and I wish he had stood his ground. In the end, even he caved to the pressures of this administration.
I have a longing to see moderate Republicans once again. I'm no longer sure what Conservative even means. These folks are certainly not Goldwater Conservatives. In this administration its been the Neo Conservatives who've dominated.
I don't like what's happened to either party. Things have gone haywire. Corporate interests trump everything in Washington.
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| So because they are Republicans or Conservatives they are mindless loyalists, but if they are Democrats or Liberals they are diverse thinkers?
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Playing the Game wrote: Careful Fred - You are not seeing the diversity of the current Republican administration, which far outweighs the Democrat who preceded him.
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Well, dude, the fact that there was a black and a liberal leaning white mentioned in the first paragraph should have been your first clue. Neither are in great supply in the Republican party.
There is no diversity within this administration. There are a lot of different ethnic and racial groups represented, but all these people are blind loyalists.
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Careful Fred - You are not seeing the diversity of the current Republican administration, which far outweighs the Democrat who preceded him.
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Well, dude, the fact that there was a black and a liberal leaning white mentioned in the first paragraph should have been your first clue. Neither are in great supply in the Republican party.
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And why do you suppose that is? Could pandering to minorities have anything to do with it? The promise of continued and increased social benefits?
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Well, dude, the fact that there was a black and a liberal leaning white mentioned in the first paragraph should have been your first clue. Neither are in great supply in the Republican party.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 12:27 pm |
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Name That (Racist, Anti-Semitic) Party
Adam Nossiter files a disturbing story about racism and anti-Semitism in a Democratic primary in Memphis -- but leaves out the "Democrat" part.
Things that somehow seem to "escape" the MSM.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 02:59 am |
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 11:31 pm |
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Bill Clinton: I'm not racist
What kind of politically correct world will be living in if Barack Obama becomes President? A world in which the first black President, Bill Clinton, finds himself on TV trying to explain to people that he 'is not a racist'. It's amazing to watch and makes the question of reparations a little more pertinent---and even though Obama says he is against reparations, the reason why he is against them should increase your level of concern for an Obama Presidency. Read the transcript.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 05:11 pm |
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Fred wrote: I suspect you have the same percentage of people who you think vote this way will vote for McCain simply because he is NOT the black guy.
I agree. I think being black and voting for Obama simply because he's black is racist, just as racist as being white and not voting for Obama because he's black. Is either an informed decision? No.
I think voting is extremely important. Casting a vote uninformed is better than not voting at all though. Just for the record, I'm white, and I'm leaning toward Obama. I am trying to keep myself informed, and my ultimate decision won't be made on emotions.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 03:12 pm |
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I disagree...or, at least, I suspect you have the same percentage of people who you think vote this way will vote for McCain simply because he is NOT the black guy.
I am not sure, however, that the vast majority of Americans have voted the issues in quite a long time. They vote personality or whoever is taller. Not everyone, mind you, but I suspect most.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 03:03 pm |
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| In every other presidential election it has been possible to make an informed decision, then cast your vote. Race was never an issue because our choices were always 2 old white guys. Now, one of our choices is not an old white guy. For some, that is the only issue there is. Obama is not white, he's different, vote for him. Don't worry about any other issue, he's not white, thats why you should vote for him. Dangerous way to vote for the leader of the free world, but that is how some will make their choice. I think too many blacks will vote emotionally this election. Show me one black voter on election day that isn't voting for Obama. You can't. Ask them why they're voting for Obama, and I'm sure "informed decision" won't even come up.
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Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 02:11 pm |
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| One could ask almost any politician as to what they have done for our county. Obama has served as a State legislator, community activist, and United States Senator. McCain HAS done more....but that is not how we judge who would lead us best going forward. If we had, almost every election of the past half dozen would have gone exactly the other way.
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