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CAPT WINKY
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 04:57 pm |
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| Feed them to the poor in Wilmington Delaware and ship them over seas to them nasty people as care packaged food.
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Habanero
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Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 10:05 pm |
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Bluesman wrote: I questioned about the dogs barking and was told to bad there are no laws about disturbance of the peace.
I don't know Blues, I find that kind of hard to believe. I would check with county animal control about that, or the SPCA. It may not fall under "disturbing the peace" but judging from the hours you list, it sure could be considered a nuisance.Last edited on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 10:06 pm by Habanero
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HorseLady13
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Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 11:20 am |
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I do know about the shots and my dogs have only had them one time, except for rabies which is a state law and are also one of those that don't really require a 3 year renewal. The other shots that the vets tell us are needed yearly only reverse themselves with yearly doing. They are good for 10 years and some of them are dangerous.
Same goes with horses. I give all my animals their shots when needed. It is cheaper to buy them yourselves then to have the vet come and pay $35 - $40 just to do what you can learn to do not including the cost of the shot. As as for drawing blood for test, I can do that too. Its not hard. My daughter was just informed that the place where she takes her cat that it would cost $285 to spay her. "WHAT!"
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Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 06:08 am |
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You know, If we could only get congress to read this thread five times real fast, we might get a decent fix for the US economy. Apples to oranges but in theory all the characters come into play. Just an observation.
For what it's worth though in all honesty, those shots that you are told are "required for the health of your animal" do more harm than good.If more people were made aware of this then you would not see so many pets abandoned. You don't expect the vet to tell you that though right? After all if you knew that then he wouldn't make his money. HMM....sounds an awful lot like people HMO's.
leerburg.com/pdf/vaccinosis.pdf
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Bluesman
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 12:46 pm |
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HorseLady13 wrote: And what good is that if you don't know who the person was that dropped off the animal.
True, but I was adressing the issues of neighbors abandoning a pet whether or not it's a rental unit or a homeowner. Even if there were a law it wouldn't be enforced anyways.
I have a neighbor with 3 dogs that are put outside a 6 AM and stay out until anywhere from 9 PM until 12:30 AM every day. They bark non stop all the time they are out, and the owners do nothing even if they are sitting outside on their deck. This has been going on since June 20, 2007, I have called the DE SPCA the state police (we are in Sussex County) and all I get is the run around.
Two weeks ago I asked the owners to please keep their dogs quiet as we have a newborn in the home and the barking is waking the baby.
The next thing I know the DSP show up at my house and tell me I will be arrested for harrassment if I speak to the neighbors again. I questioned about the dogs barking and was told to bad there are no laws about disturbance of the peace.
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HorseLady13
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 12:29 pm |
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| There won't be any abortions if you sterlize all the men and woman. Duh!
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 12:27 pm |
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| And what good is that if you don't know who the person was that dropped off the animal.
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Bluesman
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 01:54 am |
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kathyjk wrote: Bluesman,
But, how are you going to fine the persons that leave their pets when you can't find them.
Most people leave a forwarding address and or do a change of address on their license, if they stay in state. If they move out of state they are required to obtain a new license in the state where they moved to. Either one of these will trigger in an online search. There are plenty of online companies that for as little as $1.95 will locate all names in a particular state or town if you know the last name, and some other approximate information (ie age initail of first name)
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 01:09 am |
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| Like a Liberal with a plan to increase abortion rights.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 01:07 am |
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| Even better, why don't we all go out and shoot all the cats and dogs, do away with domestic animals, steralize all men and women so we don't have to worry abut starving, abused children. Then we won't need insurance for animal health or for children. Everyone will grow old and die and we will have no human race to worry about nor domestic animals and the horses and cows can run loose and enjoy themselves. How does that sound?
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 12:36 am |
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| I think we need universal pet insurance available to everyone in America. This would cover all costs and make certain fluffy is taken care of even though mommy can't buy food for her children.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 10:42 pm |
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I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE TO LOWER THE COST AT THE VETS FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON A FIXED INCOME AND SO FORTH,
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kathyjk
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 12:02 am |
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Bluesman,
we went through the same things a few years back with cats when a neighbor moved and left all of his. We had so many it was awful and then the raccoons came with their babies and we were feeding them too. What a zoo.
But, how are you going to fine the persons that leave their pets when you can't find them.
We are having the same situation here now with cats, a mommy and her kittens were dropped off. One kitten was adopted by my grandson, and one was taken by the children down the road. There is still the mother (wild) and one black kitten left hanging around a house up the road.
Now, tell me where the owner is so we can have him/her fined?
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 11:55 pm |
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Okay, this is a reply to the person who wrote " why not fine the pet owners for the many puppies and kittens" that was almost in answer to my article in the sound off.
I believe that if we were offered an affordable reduction in the spay/nuder fees for 6mon to a year, it would greatly reduce the puppy/kitten population. Their fee is so high I couldn't even afford it when I was working and now I am retired.
We love our animals and want the best for them. Most of us keep out animals under lock and key and yet just one slip from a neighborhood dog and we are in trouble. I have seen dogs climb a 6' chain link wall to get to a dog that is in heat. Most of the cost of the operation is for insurance so they don't get sued for some mistake they made not for the actual act.
So, do us a favor, give us a chance to get out animals fixed and lower the cost by 3/4 of the price and forego the insurance. It is a chance we will be taking, just make sure that you do the right job in the operation and not cause our pet to die.
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Bluesman
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 01:42 pm |
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Most that end up in the pounds are from irresponsible owners in the first place. Many people just abandon their dogs and cats when they move. I have a colony of feral cats that I currently "manage" (10) which I have caught and had nuetered/spayed, at my expense. The vet notches the cats ear when the spaying/nuetering is done for identification.
The first winter we were here we had 28 feral cats that were coming around.
Instead of asking private sector vets to lower the prices for services why not have the state, city, town, fine any pet owner who abandons their pet.
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kathyjk
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Posted: Sat Aug 9th, 2008 12:53 pm |
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Ok, new topic.
They keep complaining about the fact that there are so many dogs and cats ending up in the spca or running loose.
One thing that should be considered is the fact that the price of spaying or nudering these animals are out of sight. It cost me over $200 to have my female done and I had to breed her and sell the puppies just to make the money to get it done.
I believe that the vets and the spca could give a lower price to have it done or they will have to have an open season on the animals since they fear the rabies so much.
I believe that he vets could lower the cost to $50 for a year and make sure that the animal has had shots, distemper, rabies ; and go from there. One year would cover a lot of animals and that includes ALL the vets in this state including the spca.
HOw does that sound?
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