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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 10:55 pm |
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| There's bias in the press????? Oh! The humanity of it all.............................
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 10:53 pm |
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Is there bias in the press? Do bears ... in the woods? Of course. Yes. Definitely. Accept it. No objective observer of the press activities over the past decade can come to any other conclusion. Of course, the Democrats claim the peress doesn't give their hero enough love and the Republicans claim a lack of interest or intensity in going after Democrat 'stuff' like Biden and his drunken truck driver story and his wild tale of being 'forced down in Afganistan' [it was snow, Joey].
So we'll each have our own view of the bias based on our experiences and perceptions about our side has been treated. The best we can do is push back against any percieved bias or support the 4th estate according to our views. Given the continued decline of the papers and evening news as credible sources and successful economic entities, it would appear that is the most successful approach for those who believe the press has become a Democrat propoganda machine.
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 08:17 pm |
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Helen: I saw the interview - she asked him why several prominent republicans had come out against Palin and he started talking about the evil liberal media empire. She suggested that he could try to answer her question about the concerns raised by his republican colleagues and he started talking about "gotcha journalism". She decided to cut him off when her producer told her it was time for a commercial. Given that he had an open microphone for more than two minutes and was unable to say the simple phrase: 'the Republican Party represents a very wide range of different social groups. There will always be members of the party that are disappointed that their man or woman is not the nominee, but in the end I am confident that Republicans will rally around our nominee. The public will clearly see that their views are most closely matched by the reform-minded positions that our two maverick candidates represent. Obama's selection of an old guard tax and spend Democrat should be more of a liability going into the election than McCain's insistence on selecting a running mate with executive experience in balancing budgets.' He could have done this with his trademark tough-love-grandfather-prosecutor voice and crushed that softball question out of the park.
Instead - he attempted to offer a drawn out evil media empire defense. It is clear that he was given talking points by his handlers and was incapable of even the most basic debate tactics. Turning a perceived weakness into a hidden strength and attack the strengths of one's opponent by defining them as weaknesses. In this manner, the stronger Biden appears on the basis of his experience - the weaker he becomes as a candidate. The more people criticize Palin, the stronger her status as a reformer and the stronger she becomes as a candidate. His performance in the Republican Debates was no better, and perhaps that is the reason he garnered so few votes in his campaign? What a moron. Instead of hitting a homerun, he wiffed. He looked old, dishonest, and incapable of answering a basic question. If he is the front-man for the republicans in the media, they are in trouble.
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 08:05 pm |
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Not knowing the names of Supreme Court cases is a non point. Maybe the problem we have today is too many politicians who know a lot of book learning and memorization, but nothing about things that really matter.
Do you think anyone really cares if the President of the United States knows the names of important Supreme Court Decisions?
Does it matter what they use for news sources?
Maybe, just maybe, it would be a refreshing time in America if we had leaders tuned into every day life instead of Beltway life.
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 06:28 pm |
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No, I didn't, but it is interesting the spin he is putting out.
First, the spin that somehow they are playing "gotcha journalism". Maybe some are ,but the gaffes Palin has done were NOT the result of that.
Second, I am not a lawyer, but I could name a few Supreme Court cases...and if I can't remember the exact name, one should be able to at least name the significant issues. I would put this at a few levels...
1. High School level: Should be able to mention Dred Scott and Brown V. Board of Education, as a minimum.
2. College Level: Be able to name one or two cases that changed history...Marybury v. Madison, Miranda,
3. Pro Level: Be able to name a few cases that show you pay attention AND can spin that knowledge. The Washington, DC gun control case would be an example, or Gore V. Bush might be another.
Her argument that the "average person" couldn't name these court cases may well be true, but I also don't want the average person being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
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Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 06:10 pm |
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Did any one see how CBS tried to shut down Fred Thompson this morning ?
The interveiw one of a kind , that we need all of the time.
Thompson in my opinion did and said all the right things and because his opinion did not fit in the tone of the CBS reporter she tried to shut him down and he went over her and got his point out.
A repeat was on Glenn Beck this morning
You Go Fred
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 04:01 pm |
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McCain HAS gotten extremely light coverage of his numerous gaffes. Now, maybe he just got lucky in the news cycle and things more important came up, but he is making waaaay too many mistakes that will (and should) come up in campaign ads.
Will it be a negative add to show a bunch of clips of McCain's blunders?
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 11:38 am |
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| This topic is about the press coverage John McCain is getting for the upcoming election.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 02:36 am |
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| Terrance you are on a wrong path and sadly delusional as regards the media coverage of the Presidency of George W. Bush. Nothing more to say, get over it, his presidency ends in a few months. Move on
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 02:17 am |
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Newshound wrote: Terrance put such a spin on things that it is in high orbit. Honestlt, you have to stop logging into the Huffington Post and the Daily KOS.
If there is anyone who should know about spin, it's you Newshound. It was your moaning and groaning about po John's unfair coverage that inspired me to put up this topic.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 02:15 am |
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Playing the Game wrote: His administration was under fire from the Liberal media before his election was verified. Come on Terrance, man up.
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Playing the Game wrote: I was thinking that perhaps Terrance has spent the last 7 years in a cave thinking that the Liberal media has not crucified President Bush at every turn since his election.
At what point did the "liberal" media start criticizing Bush over Iraq? It turned a blind eye to available facts at the time.
Let's assume I have spent the last several years in a cave. Enlighten me. List some of the crucifications Bush has suffered.
I think it is fair to say that the entire recount in Florida was under scrutiny. His campaign wasn't. He wasn't tarnished by the swift boaters. He got away with that when it happened to McCain also. He dodged the whole question of how he did his military service. His former alcohol and cocaine usage was never a big issue.
So how about you fessing up to when the media started reporting honestly about Iraq.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 02:00 am |
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Terrance put such a spin on things that it is in high orbit. Honestlt, you have to stop logging into the Huffington Post and the Daily KOS.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 12:51 am |
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His administration was under fire from the Liberal media before his election was verified. Come on Terrance, man up.
Terrance wrote:
Playing the Game wrote: I was thinking that perhaps Terrance has spent the last 7 years in a cave thinking that the Liberal media has not crucified President Bush at every turn since his election.
At what point did the "liberal" media start criticizing Bush over Iraq? It turned a blind eye to available facts at the time.
Let's assume I have spent the last several years in a cave. Enlighten me. List some of the crucifications Bush has suffered.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 12:07 am |
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Disgusted wrote: Terrance, the current war was started by Islamic extremists who believe in killing those who refuse to convert to their so-called "faith" and worship their so-called "god."
Beheadings, bombings, brutalization of women...peaceful and religion, my foot to both. They're bigger lies than "The check is in the mail" and "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
BTW, I'm no GWB lackey. But, Wee Willie Clinton was never my President. I considered the office vacant for those 8 long years of darkness.
Democrat = Socialist = Communist = Tyrannist.
Republican = Gutless.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I was asking about the press' coverage of Bush. I also asked about the press' coverage of Bush's invasion of Iraq. I had no problem with our invasion of Afghanistan and I only wish we had stayed there and secured that country and continued to pursue bin Laden wherever he might be.
I'm not debating politics here so much as I am responding to the constant whining of many Republicans who think that the press is picking on them. Newshound inspired me to start this topic.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 11:46 pm |
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Terrance, the current war was started by Islamic extremists who believe in killing those who refuse to convert to their so-called "faith" and worship their so-called "god."
Beheadings, bombings, brutalization of women...peaceful and religion, my foot to both. They're bigger lies than "The check is in the mail" and "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."
BTW, I'm no GWB lackey. But, Wee Willie Clinton was never my President. I considered the office vacant for those 8 long years of darkness.
Democrat = Socialist = Communist = Tyrannist.
Republican = Gutless.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 11:00 pm |
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Playing the Game wrote: I was thinking that perhaps Terrance has spent the last 7 years in a cave thinking that the Liberal media has not crucified President Bush at every turn since his election.
At what point did the "liberal" media start criticizing Bush over Iraq? It turned a blind eye to available facts at the time.
Let's assume I have spent the last several years in a cave. Enlighten me. List some of the crucifications Bush has suffered.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 10:39 pm |
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| I was thinking that perhaps Terrance has spent the last 7 years in a cave thinking that the Liberal media has not crucified President Bush at every turn since his election. Last edited on Thu Aug 14th, 2008 10:39 pm by Playing the Game
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| Talk about "bs several feet thick"......
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 05:08 pm |
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I remember watching Bill Clinton being roasted over a slow fire for years in the press. The press covered every sleazy bit of gossip about Bill and his affairs. The Republicans and their minions considered nothing off limits. Finally, Bill got caught up in a lie and we all paid a heavy price. The press had an even bigger field day.
By contrast, George W. Bush was allowed to start a bogus war and destroy our economy and no one said a word. The media was stangely silent.
Now Obama is running and the Republicans cry and wail about the unfavorable treatment McCain is getting. Excuse me. McCain is like the teflon don of national politics. The press is giving him a free pass while they cover every bit of trash that the Republicans toss out on Obama.
We should all carry pacifiers for the next several months. I guarantee you the Republicans will be crying all the way up through the election. We should all carry shovels too. The bs from McCain supporters is already several feet deep.
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