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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 08:52 pm
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Biden is a neocon light.   He is not much different that Obama and McCain.  Bad

news either way.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 08:21 pm
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Just a joke for Perot, meaning we have no real choices.  Looks like someone besides the regular two.  Will have to check the others that are running.

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kathyjk wrote: Boy this is just great, we really need a person that has can't keep his stories straight bout the death of his first wife to be working with the foreign countries let alone VP.  He has done nothing for Delaware, how does he think he will do for the US.  What a pair.  Sure will not vote for them. But that doesn't mean I'll vote for McCain either.  I'm still pushing for Perot.

This is 2008, hello? Is Ross Perot still alive?

The last time I checked, he wasn't running.

Obama will have to put a sock in Joe's mouth to keep him from putting his foot

in it!   Yeah, we love this choice! Makes me sleep a little easier tonight.

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Fred wrote: Was there any Dem that Obama could have picked that would NOT elict a storm of Republican protest.....and will there be any candidate that Grandpa will pick that will not do the same?

I think it will be Mitts.....while sometimes like and dislike is more for the show than reality, I am not sure that those two like each other, but I still think it will be him.


Fred, I agree, I think it will be Mitt.  Mc Cain is very tight with Joe Leiberman, who

is one of the few Democrats that I can tolerate, but it would be a mistake to select

him as a running mate on the Republican ticket.  Many would take it as a slap in the

face.  I do think he will appoint him to a cabinet position, however.

Mitt has deep pockets and the conservatives would approve of that ticket but

you are right, I do not think they like each other.  Kind of like Kennedy & LBJ

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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 07:57 pm
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Boy this is just great, we really need a person that has can't keep his stories straight bout the death of his first wife to be working with the foreign countries let alone VP.  He has done nothing for Delaware, how does he think he will do for the US.  What a pair.  Sure will not vote for them. But that doesn't mean I'll vote for McCain either.  I'm still pushing for Perot.

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Was there any Dem that Obama could have picked that would NOT elict a storm of Republican protest.....and will there be any candidate that Grandpa will pick that will not do the same?

I think it will be Mitts.....while sometimes like and dislike is more for the show than reality, I am not sure that those two like each other, but I still think it will be him.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 03:33 pm
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Biden will stay on the ballot, and if on the off chance he does become VP (heaven forbid) he will rely on Mamma Minner to nominate Beau to the seat before she leaves office in January.

And in typical Delaware politician tradition, he won't give a fig for the fact that a special election to fill the AG's seat will cost an already sick budget untold amounts of money.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 02:11 pm
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Biden as VP, another reason to vote for Mc Cain.

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OK, folks, Senator Obama has selected Joe for VP.  It's official. 

Attention, Christine O'Donnell: NOW is the time to get uber-aggressive.  In basketball, it's a full court press. 

I don't know if Delaware law allows Joe to be on the ballot for 2 offices, with the US Senate a fallback in case McCain is elected President.  Whatever, Joe has been more concerned with the national stage for years, using us, the voters of Delaware, as his platform.

As we did with Bill Roth in 2000, it's time to retire Joe.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 03:55 am
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The answer is yes, someone else could be put on the ballot.  How about Carney?

The filing deadline for the parties is not up until early September.


I am hearing that it won't be Kaine or Bayh, but I don't believe it because they would make the most sense unless it is HRC.  It makes McCain fight for a red state.  I hope they are right.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 03:27 am
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ROFL, Fred!!!!!!!!!

You know darned well I'm more a Delawarean than a Virginian!!!

 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 03:18 am
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Easy for you to say, Hab....y'all are so used to having people on the national stage. Since George Washington you've always seemed to be up there... you've had what, 7 Presidents from VA? Give us our one moment in the sun, okay?  ;)

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All your jumping for joy in DE about Biden getting the V-P nod is silly, EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING knows that it is going to be VA Governor Tim Kaine.

ROFLMSS.........

Y'all don't know how silly all of the speculation is. 

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 Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 09:05 pm
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No, he doesn't.

First, he only had to wait a few hours to see who the pick is going to be, so he doesn't have to make a decision. Second, there is no way that he can know who will win the Presidential election....it is still very close to call.

As for withdrawing....the deadline for applying for statewide office has passed, so I am sure she would like him to withdraw, but how would that be fair? I could possibly see if there could be a way to put someone else on the ballot, but if the deadline is past, is this even possible?

Joe could NOT campaign at all and  I am still convinced he would win.  I am not sure if he is going to be the pick, but I think it really annoys the right wingers that others think he actually has the chops to be VP.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:  Senate foe: Biden needs to commit

O’Donnell says senator should decide on a race


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


DOVER — Delaware Sen. Joseph R. Biden, D-Del., has ridden a wave of media attention surrounding his possible vice-presidential candidacy, but the Democrat’s senatorial opponent challenged him Thursday to pick a race and stick with it.


Republican strategist Christine O’Donnell called on Delaware’s senior senator to pledge to serve a full six-year term if he is re-elected in November.


If not, he should step aside.


"To be fair to the people of Delaware, Joe Biden needs to state his intentions," Ms. O’Donnell said during a Dover press conference Thursday morning.


"If he wants to be your U.S. senator, then, he needs to withdraw from the competition for secretary of state and VP and start debating me.


"If he wants to move on to greener pastures, then, let me debate my real competition for this job and let the people of Delaware cast a vote for the person who will fill this job if not me."


The Biden campaign did not return calls seeking comment Thursday.


Sen. Biden, 65, previously has said he is not auditioning for a job in the next administration and that he is focused on running for the Senate seat he has held since 1972.


Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told reporters while campaigning in Virginia Thursday that he’s made his decision for a running mate, but would not say who.


"I’ve made the selection. That’s all you’re gonna get," said Sen. Obama.


Sen. Biden is on a short list of three or four possible vice presidential candidates — including Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, Virginia Gov. Timothy Kaine and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius.


For the past several days, a media gaggle has congregated outside Sen. Biden’s Greenville home, but the normally loquacious senator has remained fairly tight-lipped.


Sen. Biden had a family gathering at his home Thursday afternoon, with his wife, Jill, niece, Missy Owens, and son ,Beau, Delaware’s attorney general, coming and going past reporters staked outside. Sen. Biden ran errands, including a visit to the dentist, but didn’t speak to the media as he came and went.


State law would allow Sen. Biden to run for a seventh term in the U.S. Senate while appearing on the presidential ticket if Sen. Obama chooses him as his running mate.


But Ms. O’Donnell said that isn’t fair to Delaware voters because it would undermine the democratic process.


If Sen. Biden wins re-election and is either elected vice president or appointed to the next president’s administration, he would have to step down from his Senate seat and the governor would appoint a replacement for the next two years.


"(Gov.) Ruth Ann Minner and Joe Biden will engineer a behind-the-scenes scheme over who the next U.S. senator will be, instead of the people having a say," Ms. O’Donnell said.


If that happens, the person would serve until a special election in 2010 to finish the six-year term.


Media speculation surrounding Sen. Obama’s selection has ramped up in recent days, with much of the attention focused on Sen. Biden.


Pundits have cited the senator’s foreign-policy experience — he chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee — as a balance to arguments about Sen. Obama’s inexperience.


Arizona Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, brings a military background and a leading role on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Sen. Obama only has served three years in Washington.


Polls suggest the race between Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain is tightening, and Sen. Obama is responding by stepping up his attacks in speeches and commercials targeted to key states.


Sen. Obama has never been entirely comfortable going negative, but Sen. Biden is always ready for a fight.


This week, Sen. Biden returned from a trip to the former Soviet state of Georgia that he made at the invitation of the embattled country’s president, a well-timed reminder of the value he could bring to Sen. Obama’s ticket.


Sen. Obama and his new running mate are expected to appear in Springfield, Ill., Saturday afternoon, which is the same day as the Sussex County Democratic jamboree at Cape Henlopen State Park.


The annual summer event has been a staple of Sen. Biden’s for years. After suffering two aneurysms in February 1988, he made his first public appearance at the jamboree before returning to the Senate.


Sen. Obama is planning to announce his choice in a text message to supporters sometime before Saturday’s scheduled appearance.


Asked by an Associated Press reporter when the text would be sent, Obama just grinned and said, "Wouldn’t you like to know?"


The Associated Press contributed to this article.


Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 02:46 am
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I don't think it will be Biden, but what it gives Obama is exactly what has been missing until lately...someone who will meet the Republican attacks one for one.

But heck...if McCain keeps forgetting where he lives and how many houses he has, he'll sink himself. 

Kind of tough to paint someone an elitest who is out of touch when you have 7 houses and can't remember that, can you? I get that some are his homes and some are investments, but jeez.....he should have been to come up with a better answer than that.

Let me try.....

"Cindy and I have been blessed by the great American system.  We have been able to acquire a few houses that we share our time across this great country of ours, and we do have some additional properties for investment purposes.  I want to work towards an America where everyone can have a home, where they can share to an extent in the great American dream of home ownership."

Much, much better, then "I'll have to check with my staff as to how many homes I own."

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If we think positively, we will be rid of him.  Since Obama has a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected with Biden as a running mate, we are double winners.

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tspong wrote: What do you think?  From the Delaware State News: Report: Biden ‘clear favorite’No clear eyes here. Somebody get the Visine and get the red out.  All Joe has to do is open his mouth and blow the whole deal, Obama and all.

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Clear favorite in who's eyes ?

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News: Report: Biden ‘clear favorite’

Obama VP watch heats up for Del.’s senior senator


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


DOVER — The ongoing media fascination with Delaware Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. as a possible vice-presidential candidate has reached a fever pitch, with reporters camped out in front of his Greenville home and political pundits touting his credentials.


The 36-year Democratic senator and former presidential candidate finds himself at the top of a very short list of potential running mates for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, with an announcement expected in the coming days before the Democratic National Convention begins Monday.


The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Sen. Biden has emerged as "the clear favorite among Democrats to be Barack Obama’s running mate for his understanding of foreign policy in grave global times and his fighting spirit against the rival Republican ticket."


Lately, Sen. Biden, who is known at times for his verbosity, is making a lot of noise by not speaking at all.


He has remained tightlipped to the press gaggle outside his home, joking with them at times. Wednesday morning, he brought them coffee and bagels and told them he "had a successful dump" after disposing of yard waste in the afternoon.


In videos posted to ABC News’ Web site Wednesday, Sen. Biden is shown returning to his home in the morning, stopping his white Ford pickup and handing a box of coffee and several bags of doughnuts and bagels to reporters.


"Good talking to you guys," he said as he headed up the driveway, ignoring questions about the vice presidential nomination.


But the other two-thirds of Delaware’s congressional delegation agree that Sen. Biden would be an ideal choice for Sen. Obama.


"The center of Barack Obama’s campaign has been focused on change and there’s a great need for change, but you need somebody at the top of the ticket who has a great breadth of experience," said Sen. Thomas R. Carper, D-Del.


"Joe is head and shoulders above the other (vice presidential potentials) with what experience he has … I think he’s the best prepared and would help Barack fill an important void. Barack could use some help with white males and Catholics, and Joe could help him there."


Sen. Carper has served in the Senate with Sen. Biden since 2001, but the two have known each other almost since the junior senator moved to Delaware in 1973.


"He more than anyone convinced me to run for Congress in 1982," Sen. Carper said. "We sit on the train (from Washington to Wilmington) and talk about a lot of things, including this."


Even though he is from a different political party and long has backed Republican presidential hopeful Arizona Sen. John McCain, Rep. Michael N. Castle said he follows the reports about Sen. Biden closely.


"I think he’s truly on the short list," said Rep. Castle, R-Del. "His criteria is valid with longevity and foreign policy experience … I think it’s a genuine possibility that it could be him."


Delaware’s congressional delegation has worked closely together for several years, almost out of necessity. The First State only has three members while states like California boast 55 members.


When the Department of Defense announced in May 2005 that Dover Air Force Base gained personnel and units as part of a base realignment process, the delegation spoke as one voice — literally.


The three members released a joint statement praising the decision, with the quotes attributed to "the delegation" rather than any individual.


Sen. Carper and Rep. Castle agreed that the three men genuinely like each other — "We ride the train together, we attend many of the same events and our wives are friendly," Rep. Castle said — and put aside political parties to work for the state.


"In some states, there’s jealousy and rivalry among senators and representatives, but you don’t see that here," Sen. Carper said.


If Sen. Biden is tapped for vice president and the Democratic ticket wins in November, Delaware would lose the sixth-most-senior member of the upper house.


But Sen. Carper said all would not be lost for the First State.


"You would think losing a person that senior would have an adverse effect on the state’s clout," he said, "but I think there’s something to be said about moving from a senior senator to president of the Senate."


The Associated Press contributed to this article.


Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com.

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Be tough to run a campaign from Iraq, though....

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If Joe gets it and immediately resigns, Beau Joe will get the nod from Mama Minner and he will have to scramble to run a campaign.

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Heck, I think I could beat Christine O'Donnell...that is the best you can do?

Lee would probably have a better chance at the Senate seat, however.

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:cool:Playing the Game wrote: If Biden gets the V-P nod, Carney will become the Dem Heir apparent when he loses to Markell and we will be rid of both of them, because they will both lose in the General Election.

Please Pick Joe Barak.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:  Obama-Biden? Joe says no

Denies he’s Dems’ VP candidate as speculation swirls


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


DOVER — Speculation swirled Tuesday that Delaware’s senior senator is a best bet to become Barack Obama’s running mate.


But Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., D-Del., didn’t appear like a vice-presidential nominee as he drove a white pickup truck past reporters camped at his Wilmington home Tuesday night.


"I’m not the guy," he said.


ABC and MSNBC were the first to post Sen. Biden’s reaction on Web sites.


National media and political pundits have been posting theories on whom the Illinois senator will select as his vice-presidential candidate in the coming days.


With the Democratic National Convention starting Monday, those days are dwindling, and so are names of likely choices.


Right at the top of the list is Sen. Biden, a 36-year Washington veteran and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.


Sen. Obama announced he would appear Saturday in Springfield, Ill., the city where he launched his campaign bid, fueling speculation that he would appear with a running mate.


MSNBC’s report said Sen. Biden was toting golf clubs as he left, and his response to reporters about where he’ll be on Saturday was "here" and he pointed down his driveway.


As he pulled out of the driveway in the driver’s seat of his car, he then said to the press gathered near his gate, "You guys have better things to do. I’m not the guy."


A Google News search for "Joe Biden, vice president" Tuesday afternoon yielded nearly 1,500 articles, and numerous Web sites and blogs were lighting up with commentary.


Political analysts seem to have narrowed the field down to a few frontrunners: Sen. Biden, Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana and Virginia Gov. Timothy Kaine, and then, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius and dark horse Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.


Sen. Biden was in the hunt for the Democratic nomination for president, but dropped out in January after a disappointing fifth-place finish in the Iowa caucuses. His name has surfaced several times as a possible secretary of state, but he rebuffed those talks.


Before his statement on Tuesday, Biden’s senatorial campaign spokesman, Alexander Snyder-Mackler, said that the senator would not comment.


Sen. Biden was far from the speculation Monday. He spent the weekend in Georgia, meeting with President Mikhail Saakashvili and discussing the country’s military clash with Russia.


In an address to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Orlando, Fla., Tuesday morning, Sen. Obama praised Sen. Biden’s proposal of an additional $1 billion of reconstruction projects in Georgia after the Russian invasion.


MSNBC political analyst Howard Fineman wrote Tuesday that he has spoken with two of the finalists to be Sen. Obama’s running mate and two others who are close to the process.


"My bottom line is this: Barring a big surprise or last-minute change of heart, the choice is likely to be Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee," Mr. Fineman wrote.


"He is a lively and feisty if unpredictable campaigner with working-class roots and a street-level feel for the hot spots of the globe — which he can use to go toe-to-toe with (Republican presidential candidate) Sen. John McCain.


"With four decades in the Senate, he could be the perfect fit for Obama, the candidate who is often criticized for his relative lack of Washington experience."


Sen. Biden’s name was bandied about Tuesday on Web sites for CBS News, Time magazine and the New York Times.


Adding more fuel to the fire, Sen. Biden is scheduled to speak at the Democratic National Convention in Denver on Aug. 27, the same day the schedule lists the vice-presidential nominee as the headline speaker.


Dr. Larry J. Sabato, a national political expert at the University of Virginia, said Mr. Fineman’s analysis could be very reputable considering that he has good sources on the Obama campaign.


"I’m old-fashioned, and tickets are for balancing," Dr. Sabato said. "You want to bring someone on board who adds something you don’t have.


"Biden adds something Obama clearly lacks, national-security and foreign-policy expertise."


However, Dr. Sabato noted that Sen. Biden has a penchant for being "long-winded" and "doesn’t bring anything electorally" — Delaware has only three electoral votes and is leaning Democratic already.


Sen. Biden is up for re-election this year and is slated to face Republican strategist Christine O’Donnell.


According to state law, even if he is chosen as Sen. Obama’s running mate, Sen. Biden can appear on the presidential ticket and seek a seventh Senate term.


Sen. Obama has staffers in place to aid the No. 2 and his or her spouse, including more than a dozen seasoned operatives who have set up shop in a section of the campaign’s Chicago headquarters.


They are running through various logistical scenarios involved in taking over the relatively normal life of a person they do not know and thrusting him or her into the unrelenting glare of a presidential campaign.


Sen. Obama planned to ride a bus through North Carolina and Virginia today, where he was appearing with former Gov. Mark Warner, also mentioned as a possible contender for the No. 2 spot.


After that, Sen. Obama’s schedule is wide open, leaving the end of the week as a more likely time to make the announcement before the convention begins Monday in Denver.


Campaign manager David Plouffe e-mailed supporters last week telling them they would receive first word of Sen. Obama’s decision through a mass text message, but otherwise, the team has revealed little about what to expect. Historically, presidential tickets then tour battleground states to maximize media exposure, and Sen. Obama is expected to do the same.


Republicans are already envisioning their response to a Sen. Biden pick — Sen. Obama is so inexperienced that he had to pick someone with a 36-year record in Senate.


Sen. Biden has spent a longer time on Capitol Hill than Sen. McCain, they point out, which doesn’t exactly represent the kind of change Sen. Obama says is needed in Washington.


The Associated Press contributed to this article.


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Except for the fact that biden is at minimum Fing moron who cant controll his mouth. But at least hes clean and articulate on occasion

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You are right! Isn't that what the last Democratic VP candidate did? It would be good for Delaware to have a VP. As a Republican I hope Biden gets the nod.

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Biden is up for re-election to the Senate this year.  Kind of tough to campaign for the Senate while you are campaigning for V-P.  It sends a message of defeat to the party.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 01:04 am
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Try getting more then 2 brain cells working at a time, CR.

If Biden runs as the VP, it is highly doubtful that he would resign as a Senator until a few days before he is sworn in...and that would be to give Markell, who I do think will win, the option to pick the next Senator.  It might be Carney, it might even be your favorite Ruth Ann...or even Beau.

So...for you plan to work, you have to root for Barack to pick Biden and then for them to win.

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If Biden gets the V-P nod, Carney will become the Dem Heir apparent when he loses to Markell and we will be rid of both of them, because they will both lose in the General Election.

Please Pick Joe Barak.


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