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Tell Obama and McCain to go home: I want Biden and Palin
 
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Habanero
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 Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 03:10 am
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Fred wrote:  

No, actually; nor would I want a soccer dad doing it either.

Sorry, but running the country is a bit different than running a PTA. There is this thought that all we have to do is elect someone with common sense who is like us and they'll make out all right.

No, they would not. As Sarah proved at the debate, you can gain a superficial understanding of the issues enough to fake it, but she certainly doesn't know or have had time to understand the nuances of a lot of issues. Admittedly, no one can know everything about everything, but you need more than that to be a successful President. I don't want to hear about how "tough" Katie Couric is; if you consider those questions tough, she ain't ready for the City of Dover council meetings let alone answering to the American people.



My point went so far over your  head Fred, it's not even funny.

Don't even bother with the Perky Couric crap, that was all edited to intentionally make  Palin look bad and CBS has practically said as much.

Palin may not know it all, but unlike Biden she wasn't lying about stuff in her own backyard.

What is the deal with Biden and the lying?   I have made no bones about the fact that the man makes my skin crawl and has for 25 years, but he is supposedly so experienced and knows    so much --- why must he lie?  I mean come on, did he think it would go unnoticed thaat he restaurant he invited folks to go to with him has been closed for more than a decade?

 

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Habanero wrote: Ben Franklin wrote: Sarah Palin is in no way shape or form qualified to be President. Are you willing to take the risk of havving the country run by a hockey mom? I am not

As a softball mom, I would much prefer a hockey mom running the country than a known, and proven, liar running this country.  Wouldn't you?


 

No, actually; nor would I want a soccer dad doing it either.

Sorry, but running the country is a bit different than running a PTA. There is this thought that all we have to do is elect someone with common sense who is like us and they'll make out all right.

No, they would not. As Sarah proved at the debate, you can gain a superficial understanding of the issues enough to fake it, but she certainly doesn't know or have had time to understand the nuances of a lot of issues. Admittedly, no one can know everything about everything, but you need more than that to be a successful President. I don't want to hear about how "tough" Katie Couric is; if you consider those questions tough, she ain't ready for the City of Dover council meetings let alone answering to the American people.

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Ben Franklin wrote: Sarah Palin is in no way shape or form qualified to be President. Are you willing to take the risk of havving the country run by a hockey mom? I am not

As a softball mom, I would much prefer a hockey mom running the country than a known, and proven, liar running this country.  Wouldn't you?

You know, thinking about it, I do believe we would all be better off with a MOM running this country, rather than some blowhard politician.  Forget about partisan politics here and really think about it for a minute or two.

In fact think about that for more than just a minute or two, I'm calling it a night and will come back tomorrow night to expand upon the idea.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:  Iraq key topic in VP debate

By Jim Kuhnhenn


Associated Press


ST. LOUIS — Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin accused Barack Obama of voting against funding for U.S. troops in combat Thursday night in her much-anticipated debate with Obama’s running mate, Joe Biden, whom she chastised for defending the move, "especially with your son in the National Guard’’ and headed for Iraq.


"John McCain voted against funding for the troops,’’ as well, Biden countered, adding that the Republican presidential candidate had been "dead wrong on the fundamental issues relating to the conduct of the war.’’


Biden did not immediately reply to Palin’s mention of his son, Beau, the Delaware attorney general, who is scheduled to fly to Iraq with his National Guard unit soon.


Palin has a young son who is in Iraq with the Alaska National Guard, although she did not refer to it.


The exchange over Iraq was easily the most personal, and among the most pointed, as the two running mates debated across 90 minutes on a stage at Washington University.


They also clashed over energy, the economy, global warming and more in their only debate, with little more than one month remaining in the campaign and McCain struggling to regain his footing.


Republican officials disclosed earlier in the day that he was conceding the battleground state of Michigan to Obama. The state voted Democratic four years ago, but McCain had spent millions trying to place it in his column.


Biden was scathing in his criticism of McCain’s position on the Iraq war, calling him the "odd man out’’ for his refusal to accept a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops.


But Palin countered that a timetable was tantamount to "a white flag of surrender in Iraq,’’ and at a moment when victory was "within sight.’’


She also said Biden had once supported McCain’s view of the war, and noted that he had once said of Obama that he wasn’t ready to be commander in chief ... "and I know again that you opposed the move that he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and I respect you for that.’’


"I don’t know how you can defend that position now but — I know that you know, especially with your son in the National Guard.’’


As for Obama, she said, "Another story there. Anyone I think who can cut off funding for the troops after promising not to — that’s another story.’’


Biden’s reply was in clipped tones. "John McCain voted to cut off funding for the troops. Let me say that again. John McCain voted against an amendment containing $1 billion, 600 million dollars’’ for protective equipment that is "protecting the governor’s son and, pray God, my son and a lot of other sons and daughters. He voted against it.’’


Palin, who has been governor of her state less than two years, was under intense pressure to demonstrate a strong grasp of the issues as she stepped onto the stage. Polls show the public has become increasingly skeptical of her readiness for high public office.


As is her custom on the campaign, she spoke in familiar terms, saying "betcha’’ rather than "bet you’’ and "gonna’’ rather than "going to.’’


She also spoke to the home folks. "Here’s a shout-out’’ to third-graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School in Alaska. She said they would all receive extra credit for watching the debate.


"Can I call you Joe?’’ she asked Biden as they shook hands before taking their places behind identical lecterns.


He readily agreed she could — and she used it to effect more than an hour later. "Say it ain’t so, Joe,’’ she said as she smilingly criticized him at one point for focusing his comments on the Bush administration rather than the future.


She made only one obvious stumble, when she twice referred to the top U.S. general in Afghanistan as "Gen. McClellan.’’ In fact, his name is David McKiernan.


Biden’s burden was not nearly as fundamental. Although he has long had a reputation for long-windedness, he is a veteran of more than 35 years in the Senate, with a strong knowledge of foreign policy as well as domestic issues.


For much of the evening, the debate unfolded in traditional vice presidential fashion — the running mates praising their own presidential candidate and denigrating the other.


Palin said Obama had voted to raise taxes 94 times — an allegation that Biden disputed and then countered. By the same reckoning, he said, McCain voted "477 times to raise taxes.’’


They clashed over energy policy, as well, when Palin said Obama’s vote for a Bush administration-backed bill granted breaks to the oil industry. By contrast, she said that as governor, she had stood up to the same industry, and noted that McCain had voted against the bill Obama supported.


Biden said that in the past decade, McCain had voted "20 times against funding alternative energy sources and thinks, I guess, the only answer is drill, drill, drill.’’


"The chant is, 'drill, baby drill,’’ Palin countered quickly, unwilling to yield to Biden on that issue — or any other.


On the environment, Palin declined to attribute the cause of climate change to man-made activities alone. "There is something to be said also for man’s activities, but also for the cyclical temperature changes on our planet,’’ she said, adding that she didn’t want to argue about the causes.


Biden said the cause was clearly man-made, and added, "If you don’t understand what the cause is, it’s virtually impossible to come up with a solution.’’

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 03:32 pm
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There are MANY who are in no way shape or form to be President.  That's why Presidents have "cabinets" and "advisors".  I certainly don't think a President runs this country by himself or herself, I don't know what you think.

I think both are good.  Biden has the experience and Palin has the capability to learn quickly and is aggressive.

If Biden were running for President and Palin was his VP pick, I would vote for them in a heartbeat.

 

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 03:14 pm
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Sarah Palin is in no way shape or form qualified to be President. Are you willing to take the risk of havving the country run by a hockey mom? I am not

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 02:47 pm
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    I watched the debates last night and I got to say, I liked both candidates.  My wife, at the end of the debates, turned to me and said I want Biden and Palin.  I snickered a little and I said, you know what?  I bet you if Biden ran as for President and Palin was his running mate we would have a win - win ticket.  I think the American people would really like that.  Both Biden and Palin, in my opinion, did a great job last night. Biden showed his experience, which is far more than Palin, and he showed his years of being a senator and his knowledge on issues like foreign affairs. Palin showed that side that says, Hey, I'm just like you, and she showed she can connect with the people. 

My personal opinion, shared by my wife, tell Obama and McCain to go home - I want Biden and Palin.



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