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What do you think?
From the Delaware State News:
Districts plan for days off
Area schools cutting professional time
By Leah Burcat
Delaware State News
DOVER — As a result of budget cuts, teachers throughout the county will likely be taking part in fewer professional development days in the coming school year.
When legislators voted to cushion the 2.5 percent pay cut for state employees by adding a plan to give those workers the chance to take five additional days off, they left it open to each agency to devise its own system.
In regard to teachers and other public education employees, the plan has been left up to each individual school district, and most districts have targeted the teacher-training professional development days.
"Quality professional development is very meaningful," said Howard Weinberg, executive director of the Delaware State Education Association. "But the school districts, they really didn’t have any choice."
Teachers work 188 days a year — 180 of those are with students in class. The eight additional days are used for professional development and for parent-teacher conferences.
Without interfering with student days, school districts had few other options when looking at days to cut.
During professional development days, teachers learn new instructional techniques, are taught creative assessment ideas and have the ability to expand upon their own education. "It is extremely valuable," said Mr. Weinberg. "To the degree that there are circumstances in which (teachers) are being deprived of that, that’s unfortunate."
Some district officials agreed.
"There is some concern," said Dr. Michael D. Thomas, superintendent of the Capital School District, of the loss of professional development days. "We’re going to be looking at the possibility of grants and other opportunities to fund additional days."
In the future, Mr. Weinberg said he hoped the idea of professional development was re-analyzed and reworked into the current structure.
"We really need to examine how we do professional development in the long-term, so that we imbed it in the regular school day," he said.
The Caesar Rodney, Lake Forest and Smryna school districts will each be giving their employees the five days off.
While educators in the Caesar Rodney and Smyrna districts will likely only see the 2.5 percent salary reduction, those in the Lake Forest School District will be seeing an even greater cut.
The state provides 70 percent of the funding for teachers’ salaries. The rest is picked up by the local community. In the Lake Forest School District, educators will see an additional 2.5 percent cut coming from the local share of their salary.
In the Capital School District, educators "bought back" a possible cut in the local part of their salary by agreeing to take only four additional days off.
Here’s a rundown on what some Kent County school districts are doing:
Caesar Rodney
Teachers and others on the 188-day contract will only have one professional development day before the start of the school year, one on Sept. 18 and one at the end of the school year. Therefore, they will be taking off Aug. 24, Nov. 2, Jan. 19, March 26 and likely June 11 (assuming the school year is not extended for inclement weather).
For food service employees, the schedule has not been determined.
Those on the 12-month schedule will take off Nov. 25 and Dec. 28-31.
Local share of employees’ pay will not be cut.
Capital
In a tentative plan, teachers and others on the 188-day contract will take off Aug. 21, Oct. 9, Nov. 10 and March 29. These educators will still have professional development on Sept. 25 (the buyback day).
Paraprofessionals will go from 185 days to 180. They will take off Aug. 21, Aug. 24, Sept. 25, Oct. 9 and Nov. 10.
Those on the 12-month schedule will have flexibility in their days off, although the days will likely need to be taken during winter or summer break.
Local share of pay will not be cut.
Lake Forest
Teachers and others on the 188-day contract will take off full days on Aug. 21, Jan. 25 and April 1. They will take half-days on Aug. 28, Nov. 24, Jan. 26 and June 11.
Those involved with child nutrition services will take off Aug. 28, Oct. 10 and Jan. 25. They will schedule the remaining two days with a supervisor.
Paraprofessionals will take off Aug. 24, Oct. 9 and a half-day on June 11. They will schedule the additional 2.5 days with approval of a supervisor.
Those on the 12-month schedule will take off during the winter break — Dec. 24 and 28-31.
Employees in this district will see an additional 2.5 percent cut come from the local share of their pay unless an agreement is made to "buy back" some of their furlough days.
Smyrna
Due to construction in many of the district’s school buildings, the start of the year had been pushed back until after Labor Day and many of the professional development days had been scheduled to take place before the start of the school year.
Teachers and others on the 188-day contract will take off on four of the days preceding the start of the school year and on Oct. 9.
Those on the 12-month schedule will take four of their days around the Easter vacation and the day before Thanksgiving.
Although negotiations have not yet been finalized, district officials said they do not expect the local share of district educators’ pay to be cut.
"I suspect we will not take that route," said Deborah D. Wicks, superintendent of the Smyrna School District.
Staff writer Lydia Woolever contributed to this article.
Staff writer Leah Burcat can be reached at 741-8250 or lburcat@newszap.com.
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| Evidently senator Venebales doesn't care for real french fries, and is willing to see taxpayer funds squandered looking for an alternative. Don't reelect this wasteful spender.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 07:05 pm |
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Hell if you can't bet on sports games in Delaware , why not bet on the equipment that can be used in sporting events
http://www.milfordbeacon.com/news/x592697365/Lawsuit-filed-to-block-sports-betting-in-Delaware
This is one hot potato for the Governor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then again they may have taken the money from the Arts fund
http://www.artsdel.org/advocacy/Markell_Arts.pdf
50,000 lost
http://www.hanna-vending.com/tastyfries.htm
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 05:46 pm |
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Helen here wrote: http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009907280349
Fries anyone?
Gee-- I wonder how many salary decreases this POC could have saved. Always at the "last minute". No graft in this state.
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http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009907280349
Fries anyone?
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 07:11 pm |
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State moving State agency IT personnel to
DTI - Dept of Technology
Has anyone heard of this happening. Rumor has it that there is a move by our esteemed Governor to centralize agency IT people by having them be a part of DTI. Has anyone else heard of this or know any details? Before anything like this can happen of course there would have to be some legislation to approve this. Do any of the State or DTI IT employees have any thoughts or comments on this, good or bad? Just curious.
It kind of makes sense but what would be next, centralizing every group of accountants, then every group of Engineers, Scientists etc. So from that standpoint it might not make sense. On the other hand if you take a bunch of IT people out of the State agencies, maybe you make it look like you're trimming the State Government without actually doing it.
Well if they decide to move the State IT people to DTI, I hope they take care to look out for the best interest of the tax payer as well as the State Employee IT people. DTI is not a state agency and I hope the legislation doesn't force the State Employee IT people to lose all benefits, some have been with the state for close to 30 years.
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| Senator Ennis and the rest of the Democrats could have put aside some of the special interest legislation like prevailing wage and saved enough to not touch the employee's pay. Other states have taken a more realistic path and cut state spending on programs and reduced the workforce rather than punishing all of the employees for past mismanagement. Last edited on Wed Jul 22nd, 2009 03:46 am by Hartlyboy
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Posted: Wed Jul 22nd, 2009 12:33 am |
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| Bruce Ennis is no friend of any State employee other than himself. He only wants to get re-elected and make his life comfortable and cushy. He is everything that is wrong with Delaware.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2009 09:12 pm |
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Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
Like Sean Anthony Dial in his recent letter to the editor, I am a state employee and consider myself a friend of Sen. Bruce Ennis. Whenever I’ve had a question about any action he’s taken — whether I agreed or disagreed with it — I’ve always known I can count on him for a straight explanation.
When I asked him about the budget, Sen. Ennis told me he strongly opposed Gov. Jack Markell’s call for an 8 percent pay cut for state workers in these tough economic times. But as a member of the Joint Finance Committee, Sen. Ennis knew he had a responsibility to bring home a balanced budget — and that the governor was set on having some kind of pay cut as part of his plan to erase the state’s $804 million budget shortfall and wouldn’t back down.
the problem was complicated when the House of Representatives wouldn’t act on the tax and fee package needed to balance the budget until the Joint Finance Committee settled the pay issue. A lot of people on the committee were ready to settle on a 4 percent pay cut, but Sen. Ennis held out until he got the deal that could get a tax and fee package that would balance the budget through the House and signed by the governor. That deal included the 2.5 percent pay cut and five additional days off to help soften the blow.
It’s not the deal Sen. Ennis wanted — he wanted no pay cut — but it’s the deal he knew could get approved and get a balanced budget passed on time. And you don’t have to go far to see how important a balanced budget is — just look at Pennsylvania, New York, and California, where the government’s been reduced to issuing IOU’s to pay its bills.
As a state employee and true friend of Sen. Ennis, I want to thank him for helping forge a balanced budget that minimizes the pain for state workers.
James Strong IV
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tspong wrote: I am a state employee and am writing this letter with much discontent and disappointment over the decision and vote my state senator and friend Bruce Ennis made in cutting our salaries 2.5 percent and implementing furloughs. Sen. Ennis, not only promised and committed to me that he would vote against any cuts in state employee’s salaries and oppose furlough’s he committed to all the state worker unions. This will be the first time Sen. Ennis has lied to me and I am appalled. "You can’t say one thing and do another." Senator Ennis needs to have a mind of his own and not be a puppet for the Governor. Maybe it’s time to vote for a new senator in my district or find a new friend.
Sean Anthony Dial Smyrna
Both!
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Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 02:15 pm |
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Mr. Fazekas,
Your latest edition of the "Legislator's are idiots" letter to the editor has gone too far. As passionate as you are about how bad our legislators are at doing what we have put them in office to do, why don't you run for office?
Just remember that you have to think outside the box a little. If you would stop and think about what us State Workers "got" (lost?), it makes complete sense to take 2.5% of our pay and then give us 5 days off. Technically, what the legislators did, they gave us 5 furlough days and then about a 0.5% pay cut. See, 5 days is just about 2% of the total days that most State Workers get paid for in a calendar year (365 - 110 for weekends). It's actually just a little bit less than 2%, but I am rounding. So for those of you that look at it as though State workers are getting more days off from work, technically we got 5 furlough days, they just aren't called furlough days in the Budget.
The constant state employee bashing that I see comes from uninformed people who base their claims off of less than 1% of the State Employee workforce making a bad decision. Every business no matter how big or small, has problem employees. The ones that leave an hour early, or come in to work an hour late, or both. The ones that go to lunch and because they talked to someone on their cell phones about work while they were sitting at Lone Star, made sure to turn the receipt in to get reimbursed. That type of behavior is not saved only for State Employees. And if I hear one more person tell me that the hard working citizens of Delaware pay my salary, and I should be held accountable, I am going to freak out. The last time I checked, taxes come out of my paycheck too. When was the last time part of your paycheck was put back into your employers pocket? I would also venture to guess you spend more money paying one bill (Pick one: car, electric, cable, credit card, etc.) than you do state income taxes. Why is it that State Employees should be held to a higher standard than those that work at McDonald's, GM, MBNA, Delmarva Power, etc... Where you spend more money over the course of a year. Go pick on one of them for a change.
What I love about our country is that everyone has a right to their opinion, and everyone has a right to state that opinion in many different forms. What I think should preface that right, is that if you are going to be the person that is CONSTANTLY berating the other side for the decisions that they make, than you should have to offer up some suggestions as to how you would fix things. What is your silver bullet to fix the budget? That, Mr. Fazekas, is why I think you should run for office. I want to see how you would decide to run our State.
Where would you start? 15% paycut for all State Employees? Probably a 20% increase for yourself? Lower taxes for all businesses? You, Mr. Fazekas, would probably run this great state into the ground. Then again, it is a lot easier for you to stay in the background and hide behind a computer screen and your words, rather than be the one having to make hard decisions. Heck, you don't even have to run for office, volunteer to help out someone running for office. Help put the person you think would make the right decisions in office. Then again, if you do all of that, you can't criticize them for making a bad decision, because then you'd be part of the problem.
The questions I want answered by all of you people that bash State Employees and the 'lavish' lives you fantasize that we live: What makes you any better than me? What makes it right to take my hard earned money from me, but an outrage to take your hard earned money from you? Do you really honestly think that we have it that good?
To build on my last question, it's not like State Employees work in a secret society that is only open to a selected class of people. There are positions open at all times of the year. If you think we live such a lavish lifestyle and get way overpaid, why don't you come join our ranks? If we have it so good, come on over to the dark side, Mr. Fazekas. What is stopping you from applying for a job at the State? Is it because you get paid more at your current job? Don't think you have the right type of education? Or would you then have to find something else to complain about, because again, you'd be part of the 'problem'??
Billy Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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tspong wrote: Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
I am a state employee and am writing this letter with much discontent and disappointment over the decision and vote my state senator and friend Bruce Ennis made in cutting our salaries 2.5 percent and implementing furloughs. Sen. Ennis, not only promised and committed to me that he would vote against any cuts in state employee’s salaries and oppose furlough’s he committed to all the state worker unions. This will be the first time Sen. Ennis has lied to me and I am appalled. "You can’t say one thing and do another." Senator Ennis needs to have a mind of his own and not be a puppet for the Governor. Maybe it’s time to vote for a new senator in my district or find a new friend.
Sean Anthony Dial
Smyrna
Politicians say one thing and do another, outrageous! What did you expect dude?
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 07:47 pm |
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Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
Soooooo, it seems that our esteemed legislature has, uh, "saved us!" From what, one may ask? Why, economic ruin — what else? Just like the Anointed One in DC — and cronies — "they" know what’s good for us! The gods be praised!
Well — not quite. Our legislature has approved and accepted a two-and-one-half percent pay reduction for State workers — and, believe it or not, have accepted same for themselves. Additionally, it seems that the judicial branch has — in theory, at least — accepted this as well. Well and good — but have "they" curtailed spending? Their propaganda would indicate they have, but — after all, we know all too well what political "promises" are.
And, in consonance, they have mandated that every State employee also take "another" five-day vacation and — now get this — WITH pay! Will someone please explain to me how this "cuts" costs? Is it because they won’t drive their State cars to work or expense lunch? Or what? How does another five-day — PAID — vacation save money?
But wait: it seems that income taxes on those making over $60,000 per year will increase by one percent, and — lest we forget — "small" businesses (who defines "small?") will find their taxes increased. Oh, and by the way: those who partake of the various tobacco products will see at least a 45-cent raise in the price of their habit.
Let’s analyze this: the most important piece of this legislation — at least in my opinion — are the increased fees and taxes on the afore-mentioned "small" businesses; which, as everyone knows, is the backbone of our economy. Therefore, since they are going to be paying more taxes, they are faced with probably three choices: "eat" the tax increase (which is ridiculous); pass on the increase to us, their customers (most likely); or — go out of business (a possibility).
And that, my friends, means — guess what? Higher prices for EVERYone — "hidden" taxes? Hmmmmm.......
Now isn’t that just special? What a great idea: let’s raise prices on everybody! Especially in this becoming-deeper recession! Just like those fine fellows in Congress!
You want even more good news? Since the so-called "Tax" (aka "Cap") and Trade Act has passed those inestimable far-seeing members of the House of Representatives — and yes, Mr Castle voted in favor — it is now up to the Senate. Word has it, however, it will face a tough, uphill battle — and let us fervently hope and pray it goes down to defeat. For, if passed, and egregious fees are assessed on all energy producers in the US (all in the name of that bogus theory of "global warming" — and how many houses does AlGore own?), we can expect our own energy bills to rise so alarmingly that all we’ll be able to do is stay home, no traveling, and heat and cool our homes — not to mention putting our automobiles up on blocks.
Is all this alarmist? Gee, I hope so — but it still staggers the imagination and common sense that our so-called "legislators" want to actually RAISE taxes and fees in the midst of a deep recession! Do they — and the Anointed One Himself — actually want to cause a depression rivalling that of the late 1920’s?
One can only wonder.
James P Fazekas
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 06:59 pm |
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Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
I am a state employee and am writing this letter with much discontent and disappointment over the decision and vote my state senator and friend Bruce Ennis made in cutting our salaries 2.5 percent and implementing furloughs. Sen. Ennis, not only promised and committed to me that he would vote against any cuts in state employee’s salaries and oppose furlough’s he committed to all the state worker unions. This will be the first time Sen. Ennis has lied to me and I am appalled. "You can’t say one thing and do another." Senator Ennis needs to have a mind of his own and not be a puppet for the Governor. Maybe it’s time to vote for a new senator in my district or find a new friend.
Sean Anthony Dial
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There are a lot of smart people down there in Dover working on the budget but I wish they could explain their numbers better. We need something like the "Masked Magician" to show us how they do it.
First there is Sen Cook who indignantly says to Bonini that they have eliminated a '1000 positions' in this budget and then along comes a chart of the number of State workers as 29, 799.1 in FY2009 and 29, 513.6 in FY2010 which looks like less than 300 or 1% of the payroll. I won't even ask how they come up with fractional employees...
Then we have the estimable Sen. Bruce Ennis who proclaims that by cutting the pay of state employees they saved 29 million dollars. Then they show a chart that says the 'average' employee earns 27k a year and will lose 1068/yr by the 2.5% cut. Multiply that by 29500 employees and you come up with something like the 29 million Bruce mentioned [the lucky employees get to get full pay for one of the pay periods in FY2010]. Whoops! Forgot about that extra 5 day paid vacation the legislators added to the package to keep the disgruntled employees from applying tar and feathers. Based on the average pay, that means that 5 days is worth $513 in taxpayer money for work not done so multiply that by 29, 500 employees and you come up with a $15 million benefit which means you actually saved $15 million more or less by all this juggling employee pay. So, hey , you are short 15 million, -Markell signed it anyway, right?
At least I can understand the part about them not giving up all their walking around money [Community Transportation fund]. They are going to need every penny they held on to for damage control out in the real world.
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You know what; I am tired of people that don't have to deal with the standards they impose on the people they subjugate. If I remember my history we fought a war over this type of tyranny. Now with this cap and trade deal with the utilities we are going to have to get a federal agency to come inspect our house and make sure all the appliances are energy efficient, and that the house is completely up to date with insulation and windows. Before any house can be bought or sold. And guess what if the Feds do it, you know Jack the Ripper will put his twist on it and get a fee out of it too. Anything the Feds can charge you with the state can too and will.
I am getting tired of Americans loosing jobs to oversees. Why are teachers loosing jobs when there are too many superintendants? I am a state worker in the State Police, a civilian worker not a Trooper; I have 4 Managers in my section. All 4 get state cars. This means gas, tires, oil, maintenance, the whole shebang. They are even so arrogant to all drive there own state issued cars to the same place from the same place. They can’t even car pool when they have the options. When asked about why they do this, their answer was this is one of there entitlements. (They are entitled to this how about that) One of those managers gets to work from home 3 of their 4 work days a week. All the managers have the same work load and same pay and have been knocked down from 40 hours to 37.5 hours a week, boo hoo. My section of non management has been under staffed for over 3 years and no one cares. Do you think any one of those 4 managers could help pick up the slack at all, even on a day shift? I don't think so.
Now tell me, do you think the State is Manager heavy. I do. People get upset about Unions in the state saying we are wearing the state down, but they don't understand the power that managers have in the state. What they say is final, and they can destroy a person’s career over a petty dispute. And they do, if it weren't for the unions a lot of honest and innocent state employees would be gone because a state Manger didn't like some one or needed a Scape Goat. There are no Checks and Balances over what a state manager says. To be honest the Union helps but is still not the final say in any situation, I my self have been at the brunt of a Managers fury.
Every day the State adds work to our workload and now the State Legislatures have decided to take money that honestly I really need. Because of Obama and Minner, my wife lost one job and the other is making almost nothing. Now my income is all we have, and it barely makes it. Now it’s not going to be enough. Markel’s paycheck isn't going down. None of the Legislatures that are voting for this pay cut are taking a hit. If you told Congress or the State Legislatures they couldn't take there little vacation and had to keep working for the same pay, they would freak out. I guarantee you would see some serious goldbricking or people walking off the job. So what do you think is going to happen when you make state workers take 5 unpaid days off and cut their pay by 2.5 percent? I don't know if you have seen the average state workers paycheck, but we don't do it for the money. And we definitely don't do it for the working conditions. Managers are abusive, and the news is misleading and abusive. There are a lot of state workers that only bring home 17 to 27 K. This bill is bad and just wrong. I have a child in the public school system; my managers have kids in private schools. So does that explain that article the Journal put out about the average state employee pay? Its misleading because when you average out the managers pay in there you get a very manager heavy misleading number. I don't know about any of you but I don't want my kid having to deal with an upset teacher that has to take a 2.5 percent pay cut and 5 unpaid days off either. I think Delaware’s teachers are great; it’s the Management once again that causes all the problems. They won't get rid of the bad teachers and make good teachers teach down to bad teachers abilities. One bad teacher makes the whole school screwed under the current policy.
If Markel and the Legislature wants to make some improvements they need to clean there own house first and then get rid of the Nepotism heavy and favor heavy Management system.
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You know what; I am tired of people that don't have to deal with the standards they impose on the people they subjugate. If I remember my history we fought a war over this type of tyranny. Now with this cap and trade deal with the utilities we are going to have to get a federal agency to come inspect our house and make sure all the appliances are energy efficient, and that the house is completely up to date with insulation and windows. Before any house can be bought or sold. And guess what if the Feds do it, you know Jack the Ripper will put his twist on it and get a fee out of it too. Anything the Feds can charge you with the state can too and will.
I am getting tired of Americans loosing jobs to oversees. Why are teachers loosing jobs when there are too many superintendants? I am a state worker in the State Police, a civilian worker not a Trooper; I have 4 Managers in my section. All 4 get state cars. This means gas, tires, oil, maintenance, the whole shebang. They are even so arrogant to all drive there own state issued cars to the same place from the same place. They can’t even car pool when they have the options. When asked about why they do this, their answer was this is one of there entitlements. (They are entitled to this how about that) One of those managers gets to work from home 3 of their 4 work days a week. All the managers have the same work load and same pay and have been knocked down from 40 hours to 37.5 hours a week, boo hoo. My section of non management has been under staffed for over 3 years and no one cares. Do you think any one of those 4 managers could help pick up the slack at all, even on a day shift? I don't think so.
Now tell me, do you think the State is Manager heavy. I do. People get upset about Unions in the state saying we are wearing the state down, but they don't understand the power that managers have in the state. What they say is final, and they can destroy a person’s career over a petty dispute. And they do, if it weren't for the unions a lot of honest and innocent state employees would be gone because a state Manger didn't like some one or needed a Scape Goat. There are no Checks and Balances over what a state manager says. To be honest the Union helps but is still not the final say in any situation, I my self have been at the brunt of a Managers fury.
Every day the State adds work to our workload and now the State Legislatures have decided to take money that honestly I really need. Because of Obama and Minner, my wife lost one job and the other is making almost nothing. Now my income is all we have, and it barely makes it. Now it’s not going to be enough. Markel’s paycheck isn't going down. None of the Legislatures that are voting for this pay cut are taking a hit. If you told Congress or the State Legislatures they couldn't take there little vacation and had to keep working for the same pay, they would freak out. I guarantee you would see some serious goldbricking or people walking off the job. So what do you think is going to happen when you make state workers take 5 unpaid days off and cut their pay by 2.5 percent? I don't know if you have seen the average state workers paycheck, but we don't do it for the money. And we definitely don't do it for the working conditions. Managers are abusive, and the news is misleading and abusive. There are a lot of state workers that only bring home 17 to 27 K. This bill is bad and just wrong. I have a child in the public school system; my managers have kids in private schools. So does that explain that article the Journal put out about the average state employee pay? Its misleading because when you average out the managers pay in there you get a very manager heavy misleading number. I don't know about any of you but I don't want my kid having to deal with an upset teacher that has to take a 2.5 percent pay cut and 5 unpaid days off either. I think Delaware’s teachers are great; it’s the Management once again that causes all the problems. They won't get rid of the bad teachers and make good teachers teach down to bad teachers abilities. One bad teacher makes the whole school screwed under the current policy.
If Markel and the Legislature wants to make some improvements they need to clean there own house first and then get rid of the Nepotism heavy and favor heavy Management system.
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Must be new math at the DSN. Your Chart reflects a 4% pay cut
tspong wrote:
What do you think?
From the Delaware State News:
Panel adds days off to pay cut plan
State employees would receive extra five days, 2.5 percent pay reduction
By Tom Eldred and Bruce Pringle
Pay cut chart
State workers will see a 2.5 percent decrease in pay in Fiscal 2010.
For the remaining 25 weeks of the 2010 payroll, here is what the reduction equals per two-week pay period:
Current Per Pay Current Per Pay
Pay Reduction Pay Reduction
$500 $20 $1,500 $60
$625 $25 $1,625 $65
$750 $30 $1,750 $70
$875 $35 $1,825 $75
$1,000 $40 $2,000 $80
$1,027* $41.08 $2,125 $85
$1,125 $45 $2,250 $90
$1,250 $50 $2,375 $95
$1,375 $55 $2,500 $100
*-Average.
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tspong wrote: What do you think?
On the plus side, lawmakers on the Joint Finance Committee also voted to accord state workers five extra paid days off during the year, in conjunction with plans soon to be submitted by each department containing assurances that the additional time off will not negatively impact staffing or cause extra overtime.
I think it's wonderful --- because it gives state employees extra time to go on interviews for private sector jobs.
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The passed budget is unacceptable
The gift of five furlough days probably can't happen in most agencies so we're stuck with a 2.5 % cut
First the idea that this administration is touching State Employee pay scales with their filthy gubby money hungry hands is enough to make me sick. Second the "Gift" of five furlough days to make up for the 2.5 % cut probably won't be able to happen in the majority of agencies because of the phrasing they used.
We need to remember the names of those who are in office now so that when the next election comes up those names will be changed.
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What do you think?
From the Delaware State News:
Panel adds days off to pay cut plan
State employees would receive extra five days, 2.5 percent pay reduction
By Tom Eldred and Bruce Pringle
Delaware State News
DOVER — After months of speculation, rhetoric and public protest, legislative budget writers finally came to agreement Tuesday on how to mandate a fiscal 2010 pay cut for the massive state workforce.
Following approval by both legislative chambers, state workers will see an across-the-board 2.5-percent pay cut, starting with the second paycheck in July.
On the plus side, lawmakers on the Joint Finance Committee also voted to accord state workers five extra paid days off during the year, in conjunction with plans soon to be submitted by each department containing assurances that the additional time off will not negatively impact staffing or cause extra overtime.
"This was a bipartisan effort,’’ House Minority Leader Richard C. Cathcart, R-Middletown, said of the newly-forged agreement. "All leadership was in discussion about this yesterday. This was definitely a bipartisan decision."
Reacting to a powerful show of solidarity from educators and other unionized state employees, the JFC had pared down Gov. Jack A. Markell’s original budget proposal of an 8-percent cut for state workers to 2.5-percent on June 12.
But some lawmakers, including JFC member Rep. Joseph W. Booth, R-Georgetown, did not agree.
Tuesday’s compromise apparently fixed that.
"This particular language meets me halfway," Rep. Booth said. "Hopefully, next year, we can eliminate this kind of language and get back to where we were."
Which is precisely what will happen, said Michael Jackson of the state budget office.
"This will be spread out over the whole fiscal year," he told the panel. "When it’s complete, pay scales for all employees will be restored to 2009 pay levels."
Mr. Jackson said the 2.5-percent cut and subsequent five additional paid days off will apply to all state agencies and departments. A similar plan will go into effect for Delaware Technical & Community College, subject to the approval college President Dr. Orlando J. "Lonnie" George. Delaware State University and the University of Delaware are not affected.
Several JFC members stressed that the intent of the pay cut language and extra time off package clearly instructs state agencies to maintain sufficient staffing levels and strictly monitor overtime.
"I have confidence that state agencies and collective bargaining heads will be able to address that," state budget director Ann S. Visalli said. "I can’t give a criteria but we clearly don’t want these additional days off (to have a negative effect on staffing) or produce overtime."
JFC member Sen. Bruce C. Ennis, D-Smyrna, said the estimated $28.9 million saved by the pay cuts would be equally and fairly distributed.
"What sold me was that if you look at the pay scales, it amounts to $15 or less per pay period for employees making $15,000 or less," he said. "And it’s less than $100 per pay period for the employee making (between $95,000 and $100,000.)"
Some state officials had no immediate public response after hearing the 2.5-percent pay cut would be combined with five paid days off, saying they were still seeking details on the plan. But others predicted their agencies would cope with additional employee absences without increasing overtime expenses.
"We always deal with issues of people’s accumulated leave," said Robert Furman, director of the Division of Facilities Management. "We always work around it and we will in the future."
Judy Sheldon, a union activist who teaches in the Capital School District, said the pay cut greatly concerns her colleagues, especially younger ones.
"Frankly, teachers are calling me and they’re very stressed out," said Ms. Sheldon, who was in the final day of a term as chief executive officer of the Capital Education Association, which bargains on behalf of teachers.
She said she shares in the anxiety. "I’ve been frozen (at the same pay) for almost three years. To have less, with the inflation and the cost of everything, is frightening."
But she added, "I’m grateful I have a job. In the region, a lot of people have lost their jobs."
Joe Roglasky, a spokesman for Gov. Markell, said the governor readily accepts the adjustment.
"He’s fine with it," Mr. Rogalsky said.
"The intent is very clear to all of us," JFC member Sen. David B. McBride, D-Hawk’s Nest said. "I would believe and hope that the administration will work through these things."
After the pay-cut motion passed unanimously, JFC members clapped and shook hands.
Rep. Cathcart hugged JFC Vice-Chair Sen. Nancy W. Cook, D-Kenton.
The deed was done.
Senior news editor Tom Eldred can be reached at 741-8202 or teldred@newszap.com.
Staff writer Bruce Pringle can be reached at 741-8233 or bpringle@newszap.com.
Pay cut chart
Editor’s note: The Delaware State News incorrectly presented information on state workers’ pay reduction in a box on page 8 of Wednesday’s Delaware State News.
State workers will see a 2.5 percent decrease in pay in Fiscal 2010.
The figures shown below are a representation of various salary levels and the amount a 2.5 percent reduction equals in a full year.
Since there are 25 pay periods remaining in the new fiscal year, the per-pay amount is the annual reduction divided by 25.
Annual 2.5 percent Per-Pay
Salary reduction reduction
$15,000 $375 $15
$20,000 $500 $20
$25,000 $625 $25
$30,000 $750 $30
$35,000 $875 $35
$40,000 $1,000 $40
*$41,095 $1,027* $41.08
$45,000 $1,125 $45
$50,000 $1,250 $50
$55,000 $1,375 $55
$60,000 $1,500 $60
$65,000 $1,625 $65
$70,000 $1,750 $70
$75,000 $1,825 $75
$80,000 $2,000 $80
$85,000 $2,125 $85
$90,000 $2,250 $90
$95,000 $2,375 $95
$100,000 $2,500 $100
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This is an email that I sent out to all friends and the polities that voted yes to
Just so all you state employees that are getting the shaft here you go, remember this at voting time. I am also including a few friends and family that I believe to have a sympathetic ear too, so that during voting time they can help. All the state is going to be affected by this, why should the little guys on the totem pole get the shaft when none of the appointed or voted in people get the same treatment.
By the way Senator Nancy W. Cook (DE) does not list a email on her contact page from the state but here phone number if anyone wants to let her know what a bad decision she has made in her vote to cut all state employees is 302-744-4237.
I have also posted all of this information on the Union web page as well as emailed it to all state employees that I know and encouraging everyone that gets this email to pass it out to everyone you know, because either a friend or family member is getting hurt by bad politicians.
I am also sending it to a political group called GRIP to help pass the word
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The Joint Finance Committee that voted on our pay cut is as follows. There are twelve (12) members, six (6) Representatives and six (6) Senators. The vote was 7-5 in favor of the 2.5% pay cut for State Employees. Here is the breakdown as I know it:
YES - Rep. Dennis P. Williams (Chair)
NO - Rep. Joseph W. Booth
YES - Rep. James Johnson
YES - Rep. Melanie George Marshall
NO - Rep. Joseph E. Miro
YES - Rep. John L. Mitchell
YES - Sen. Nancy W. Cook (Vice-Chair)
YES - Sen. Bruce Ennis
YES - Sen. Margaret Rose Henry
NO - Sen. David B. McBride
NO - Sen. Catherine L. Cloutier
NO - Sen. Dorinda A. Connor
Just remember this at voting time.
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Playing the Game wrote: Do any of you really think Jack the Ripper and the sloths in our Legislature actually give a crap? Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians (GRIP)
Hallelujah Unfortunately, Delawareans seem to have very short memories. Sigh...
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| Do any of you really think Jack the Ripper and the sloths in our Legislature actually give a crap? Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians (GRIP)
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not amused wrote: There have been some very interesting articles in the paper lately about the way Delaware is going deeper and deeper into debt but yet the realistic answer that has been addressed numerous times has not been addressed. You want to cut the pay of the entire state workers who have only gotten a 2-3% pay increase over the years. Now take that time span and compare it to the pay raises our legislatures have gotten be it in 4 years or less of around 50% give or take. In 4 years a state worker will only get a 8-12% pay increase. Now compare that to 50%. Next, how much has the cost of living gone up over that 4 years? Now, I have been in many state offices from the top of the state to the bottom and I have seen the many times that state workers are goofing off and not doing their work but yet you want to cut the pay of all state employees and still can't get rid of the dead weight that the state has. Why is that?? You want to increase taxes on personal income and on companies? Are you trying to keep business in Delaware or chase it out? You have created the problems this state faces because of overspending. I know how the government works as do many others. Don't increase my taxes because of your fumbles. Remember Governor you had the position of taking care of the finances for how long??
Amen
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not amused wrote: There have been some very interesting articles in the paper lately about the way Delaware is going deeper and deeper into debt but yet the realistic answer that has been addressed numerous times has not been addressed. You want to cut the pay of the entire state workers who have only gotten a 2-3% pay increase over the years. Now take that time span and compare it to the pay raises our legislatures have gotten be it in 4 years or less of around 50% give or take. In 4 years a state worker will only get a 8-12% pay increase. Now compare that to 50%. Next, how much has the cost of living gone up over that 4 years? Now, I have been in many state offices from the top of the state to the bottom and I have seen the many times that state workers are goofing off and not doing their work but yet you want to cut the pay of all state employees and still can't get rid of the dead weight that the state has. Why is that?? You want to increase taxes on personal income and on companies? Are you trying to keep business in Delaware or chase it out? You have created the problems this state faces because of overspending. I know how the government works as do many others. Don't increase my taxes because of your fumbles. Remember Governor you had the position of taking care of the finances for how long??
YOu have made some very valid points in your post...Thanks for taking the time to post!Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 02:41 pm by The Future
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There have been some very interesting articles in the paper lately about the way Delaware is going deeper and deeper into debt but yet the realistic answer that has been addressed numerous times has not been addressed. You want to cut the pay of the entire state workers who have only gotten a 2-3% pay increase over the years. Now take that time span and compare it to the pay raises our legislatures have gotten be it in 4 years or less of around 50% give or take. In 4 years a state worker will only get a 8-12% pay increase. Now compare that to 50%. Next, how much has the cost of living gone up over that 4 years? Now, I have been in many state offices from the top of the state to the bottom and I have seen the many times that state workers are goofing off and not doing their work but yet you want to cut the pay of all state employees and still can't get rid of the dead weight that the state has. Why is that?? You want to increase taxes on personal income and on companies? Are you trying to keep business in Delaware or chase it out? You have created the problems this state faces because of overspending. I know how the government works as do many others. Don't increase my taxes because of your fumbles. Remember Governor you had the position of taking care of the finances for how long??
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| Mr. Markell HAS to stand up and answer the very important question of- " You were the state treasurer for three terms, and YOU did NOT forsee the probability of a deficit??" Why is that Mr. Markell?? Last edited on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 07:10 pm by dover-diva
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I know, I agree with you and it is a shame....The cost of living(I.E ...Raised taxes) will continue to increase to pay for the budget yet there aren't enough good paying jobs here to support it... Which means the only people who will be able to live here are retirees moving in from out of state, where they are used to paying 4 and 5 times in taxes compare to here... Who currently are exempt from paying certain taxes...
At some point we have to reverse our course...
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The Future wrote: Typical, Cut pay and raise taxes.... Democrats at thier best!!! Take money from those that have it and give to those that don't.... Not to mention that no state workers have gotten their annual pay increase 2 - 5% over the last three years.. So add that up: We'll average the pay increase to 3% per year plus the 2.5 % cut and that would be an 11.5% pay cut over the last three years... Yet the budget continues to get worse each year? (I am not condoning a yearly raise with no review, by the way... This is for theoretical purposes only)
Maybe its time to cut taxes and start being pro business..so we can create jobs and increase the tax base! Markell has his work cut out for him and I understand that... I hope he is thinking about the big picture and not just about balancing this years budget...
He is only thinking about the Fiscal Year 2010 budget...they all are. We will have the exact same situation next year.
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Hartlyboy wrote: Mendavor wrote: I am somewhat disappointed at our local Democrats in voting pay cuts for state workers. We are supposed to be for the working person. A dictatorship of the proletariat. In a good socialist society we are trying to build the worker reigns supreme. Better to tax the intelligentsia and the bourgeoisie and give rather then take from our working class. It is obvious that the local governments are not up to speed with the progress in our federal system.
What? You think the Democrats are not good Socialists? They only want to take a little from everyone to make us all equal and share the wealth. Gad, I gag at the words. Don't know how you do it , Mendy....
What the communist government did was to take control of the unions and then overthrow he workplace. Then the government through the unions controlled the workplace. You know, kind of like GM? You see, Mendavor, the local Democrats have not fallen under the socialist banner like the national party has which is not to say the locals govern too much differently. Tax aqnd spend and tax some more.
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Typical, Cut pay and raise taxes.... Democrats at thier best!!! Take money from those that have it and give to those that don't.... Not to mention that no state workers have gotten their annual pay increase 2 - 5% over the last three years.. So add that up: We'll average the pay increase to 3% per year plus the 2.5 % cut and that would be an 11.5% pay cut over the last three years... Yet the budget continues to get worse each year? (I am not condoning a yearly raise with no review, by the way... This is for theoretical purposes only)
Maybe its time to cut taxes and start being pro business..so we can create jobs and increase the tax base! Markell has his work cut out for him and I understand that... I hope he is thinking about the big picture and not just about balancing this years budget...
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| Well I really thought wrong about Sen.Ennis. Its one trem for you!Break a tie by buckling, under the words that we have alot to do in two weeks. You proved that you care less about state workers . So election time no votes for you count on that!
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Mendavor wrote: I am somewhat disappointed at our local Democrats in voting pay cuts for state workers. We are supposed to be for the working person. A dictatorship of the proletariat. In a good socialist society we are trying to build the worker reigns supreme. Better to tax the intelligentsia and the bourgeoisie and give rather then take from our working class. It is obvious that the local governments are not up to speed with the progress in our federal system.
What? You think the Democrats are not good Socialists? They only want to take a little from everyone to make us all equal and share the wealth. Gad, I gag at the words. Don't know how you do it , Mendy....
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| I am somewhat disappointed at our local Democrats in voting pay cuts for state workers. We are supposed to be for the working person. A dictatorship of the proletariat. In a good socialist society we are trying to build the worker reigns supreme. Better to tax the intelligentsia and the bourgeoisie and give rather then take from our working class. It is obvious that the local governments are not up to speed with the progress in our federal system.
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This is how the vote went on the paycut
We need to keep reminding ourselves of this for the next election !!
The vote was 7 for the 2.5% cut, 5 against it.
All the House and Senate R’s voted against it, plus Sen. Dave McBride – D.
So, the people voting for the 2.5% cut were:
Rep. Dennis Williams - D
Rep. Melanie George Marshall – D
Rep. James Johnson – D
Rep. John Mitchell – D
Sen. Nancy Cook – D
Sen. Bruce Ennis – D
Sen. Margaret Rose Henry – D
Voting against the cut were:
Sen. Dave McBride - D
Sen. Dori Connor – R
Sen. Catherine Cloutier – R
Rep. Joe Booth – R
Rep. Joe Miro – R
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Mr. Markell did indeed inherit a seriously flawed budget but, 1). He was the state Treasurer during the time the state was in a spending fury and could have influenced some decisions that were made to get us into this mess, and 2) I do not share your optimism especially after he cut into the small take home pay that it takes to take care of my family. There are other ways he and Ms Cook can work towards fixing Delaware's financial crisis. For one thing they need to cross party lines. Colin Bonini has some interesting ideas that do not cut the pay of a workforce that hasn't gotten a raise in three years.
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What do you think?
From the Delaware State News:
Panel backs pay cut for state workers
Official: JFC vote on 2.5 percent reduction has ‘devastating impacts’
By Leah Burcat
Delaware State News
DOVER — It may not be 8 percent, but the 2.5-percent pay cut for state employees that was approved by the Joint Finance Committee on Friday would still be injurious, said state workers after hearing of the committee’s decision.
"This has devastating impacts," said Michael A. Begatto, executive director of the Delaware branch of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, after the committee voted. "It is taking $28 million out of the economy."
The 7-5 vote in favor of the measure came only minutes after the budget drafting group opened its doors to the public — a move necessitated by the passage of House Bill 1, the open government bill.
What the public was unable to witness, though, were the hours upon hours of debate on the issue that occurred before Gov. Jack A. Markell signed the bill into law.
The legislation had passed both chambers by 4:30 p.m. last Tuesday, but Gov. Markell did not make it official until 2 p.m. Friday — nearly 10 days later.
All the while, the committee had the chance to discuss, debate and argue over the governor’s proposal to cut the salary of state employees by 8 percent.
According to legislators, the 12-member committee had been split 6-6 for the past two days.
It was Sen. Bruce Ennis’s decision to switch sides that allowed the measure to pass. Sen. Ennis, D-Smyrna, said he did not want to vote for a salary cut, but realized that the time was ticking down and something needed to be done.
"It was definitely one of the harder decisions I’ve ever had to make," said Sen. Ennis. "But we have to have a balanced budget. This issue was holding the whole process up. We only have two weeks to go."
Reps. Joseph W. Booth, R-Georgetown, and Joseph E. Miro, R-Newark, and Sens. Dorinda A. Connor, R-Wilmington, Catherine L. Cloutier, R-Wilmington, and David B. McBride, D-Wilmington, voted against the motion.
The 2.5-percent pay cut would apply to all merit and merit-comparable employees. Teachers would see a 1.5-percent salary cut and the elimination of two professional development days. The end result would be a total compensation reduction of approximately 2.5 percent.
The cuts are expected to save the state $28 million.
Gov. Markell’s 8-percent pay cut would have reduced the state’s expenses by nearly $92 million, which means the state will need to find an additional $64 million to cover the difference.
"To the extent that it moves us forward, then yes, it was helpful," said state budget director, Ann S. Visalli. "But it wasn’t what we wanted."
"We have a lot of cutting left to go," she added.
Although it was less than the governor’s proposal, the leaders of the state workers’ coalition who were present during the vote said they were not happy.
"As we stated early on, we did not want to see any pay cuts," said Mr. Begatto.
"It is certainly a blow to [the coalition’s] efforts," said Dr. Samuel B. Hoff, political science professor at Delaware State University.
The consequences of the decision will be serious, he said.
"These are not just statistics — there will be real-life ramifications," said Dr. Hoff.
The budget, which now includes the salary cuts, must still be approved by both chambers of the General Assembly.
State workers said they will continue to work to ensure the pay cuts are removed, but that the committee’s decision has made their job that much harder.
"The likelihood of an amendment is not high, but stranger things have happened. They did open the doors," said Mr. Begatto.
Following the vote on the pay cuts for the salaried workers, the Joint Finance Committee continued with its deliberations, but for the first time with the doors wide open.
"We are operating under the new law and I appreciate that," said Rep. Booth.
Sen. Nancy Cook, D-Kenton, jokingly lamented that the open-door policy would force her to wear make-up at all times.
The committee then began discussions concerning the state contributions toward both public school transportation and reimbursements for families who choose to send their children to private and charter schools.
Gov. Markell had suggested cutting the funds for public school transportation by 10 percent, but many committee members worried that was going too far — they worried it would mean that school districts would hire less-reliable services and put schoolchildren at risk.
In its stead, they suggested reducing the funds by only 2.5 percent.
Some legislators argued that the cuts would force the districts to look for creative solutions and find efficiencies and that they were necessary.
"I don’t think this is going far enough. It puts us in the position to find $2 million elsewhere," said Rep. Melanie George Marshall, D-Bear.
Rep. Marshall did not garner enough support, though — the committee voted to cut the line item by only 2.5 percent.
A similar situation transpired when the committee began discussing cuts to transportation reimbursements for families who do not send their children to public school.
Former Gov. Ruth Ann Minner had recommended cutting the $2.25 million budget by 15 percent. This would mean that the rate families received per child would be reduced from $158 to $134 a year.
In Gov. Markell’s budget recommendation, he suggested cutting the fund entirely — a move that would save the state nearly $2 million.
Many committee members again worried about the cuts.
Rep. Miro and Sen. McBride brought up the fact that it costs the state more than $700 per student each year to transport children in the public education system to school. If parents could no longer afford to get their child to the private or charter school, they might consider enrolling the student in the public school, which would end up costing the state more.
Sen. Cook suggested not only forgoing Gov. Markell’s recommendation, but even adding some money back into the budget former Gov. Minner had suggest. Sen. Cook proposed adding another $80,000 to the fund, making the reimbursement rate per student $140 a year. In total, the state would be spending about $1.9 million on this program.
Again, Rep. Marshall worried how the decision would affect their job of balancing the budget.
"On our last two motions combined we added about $4 million into the budget that we need to find elsewhere," she said. "I wasn’t suggesting going to zero, but spending $1.9 million is a lot."
In the end, Rep. Marshall and Sen. Ennis were the only two committee members voting against the measure.
The committee plans to meet again on Monday to continue the process.
Staff writer Leah Burcat can be reached at 741-8250 or lburcat@newszap.com.
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Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
I am one of the teachers that was on the front cover of the paper a few weeks ago. I find it extremely offensive that people are judging a book by its cover. I do not wear a shirt and tie to work everyday. I do; however, wear a collared shirt and dress pants everyday. If I put on more expensive clothes and more "proper" clothing, would that make my students any smarter? The way I dress odes not make a student more intelligent or respectful. What does help a student’s intelligence and respectful nature are sound morals and effective parenting. The latter cannot and should not be a teacher’s responsibility yet we are forced, every year, to take on more roles, and parenting has become one of them. Instead of judging my effectiveness as a teacher based on the clothes I wear, why not look at my performance as an educator? I would much rather have the results of my 9 year teaching career speak for itself. I have had 225 students in my career, and I have only had 5 students not meet the standard for reading. That means 97% of the students I have instructed have met and exceeded the Delaware State Standard for Reading. I feel those statistics are a tremendous example of someone being dedicated and performing at the apex of their career. With those results, one would think I would be honored and praised for helping to create a solid future for the world instead of ridiculed for not wearing a tie, or having my shirt not tucked in as I leave work. So, I ask my critics "would you rather have a suit-wearing, poor educator, or a casually dressed educator who provides results and creates positive learning experiences. Teachers’ clothing is not what is wrong with education today. What is wrong with education today is we lack the public’s support. Instead of taking all the energy and time to write about how my co-workers and I dress, why not focus that energy on helping us KEEP the inadequate salary we have worked so hard to get. Yes, we have summers off of teaching but most teachers spend that time getting ready for the next school year, or attending classes to become better at their craft so they can create the world’s next doctors, lawyers, and intelligent citizens. I have a Master’s Degree in Special Education, and according to state standards am a highly qualified teacher, so why do I stand to lose a large portion of my salary for doing a fantastic job at teaching? Is it because I do not wear a tie to work? If so, I will wear a tuxedo in the fall so I can still afford to pay my bills. I urge yo to put more effort in helping educators get the salary they deserve, instead of worrying about what clothes we wear to work.
Matthew Freese
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Nellie Hughes Stokes (Superior ranked school)
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Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
Editor’s note: The following is an open letter to Delaware Gov. Jack Markell. A copy was sent to the Delaware State News for publication.
Dear Governor Markell,
I thought you would like to know what I saw at the last rally outside Legislative Hall since you have never ventured out. At each of the rallies I have seen many proud citizens, elected officials and entire families that all see the harm you intend to inflict on hard working, decent people that did not create this budget issue. In fact all of us are trying really hard to remember a time that you spoke out about one of those checks you signed for the past eight years when times were good. You were supposed to be the one steering us in the right direction not the one asleep at the wheel.
Those of us gathered on the Green are truly family! One thing you have succeeded in is uniting us. We are the hardworking people that clean beds in the mental hospital, guard the prison, teach tomorrow’s leaders, plow snow at 2:00am, fight crime and, in fact, protect you. We all have different jobs to do but share many things in common. We work hard, care about each other and take pride in being able to provide for our families. You see, we are the "Heartbeat of America" to borrow a phrase. But, it’s bigger than that. Our family of workers is what has made America and Delaware everything they are. We are starting to have family arrive from all over this nation representing our unions in other states. The word is out across the country that our governor is against workers.
Governor Markell, show us that you understand that. Give us a seat at the table like you did for the casinos. Have the courage to look us in the eyes and say you made a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes but the measure of any man or woman is being able to admit it. The Legislature is full of our extended family, many of whom once worked the same jobs we have. Many thanks to all of the legislators that came across the street to publicly sign a petition supporting us, some of whom have been to all three rallies. Thanks for speaking with us, valuing us and being able to relate to us. We will fight with you and for you when the time comes that you need us!
As for my family on the Green, keep up the fight! We can win, we will win. Thanks for bringing your young children. They need to learn what is great about being an American. Hold your elected officials responsible, fight for what you believe in, fight against unfair government actions, assemble for a purpose and speak freely. Let our elected officials continue to hear from us. Thank those who support us. Ask those who have not yet chosen to support us, why they don’t value us? For those that have taken the lead in this fight, I am forever grateful.
Barry Fillman
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Hartlyboy wrote: Lavitakus wrote:
Ben, you can't spell worth a s**t. I sill like you though...Peace.
You did that on purpose, didn't you?
yes it was a butt joke
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Lavitakus wrote:
Ben, you can't spell worth a s**t. I sill like you though...Peace.
You did that on purpose, didn't you?
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TruthwillOut wrote: WWJD wrote: A lot of good that did. Maybe the full House or Senate will vote against the 2.5% and make the "Big EMpty Head" Committee consider better alternatives like layoffs or furloughs. I will write them a list of expendable employees in my Department where they can start.
If they did layoffs How much of a burden would that put on the unemployement payouts? Del like a bunch of other states is probably broke where unemployment is concerned.
Positions, state jobs need to be permanantly removed. No job here anymore.
BUTT as you see its a big butt, The effect of say getting rid of 5k jobs is that 5k more people are unemployed. Burdening an already strained system. We all know there are at least that many created just to keep the masses working jobs in the state.
Really the only option is to cut pay and benefits or the job goes bye bye permanantly. Youre idea about cutting half an hour off the work day is good too. couple that with no over time period not at all, except maybe cops, and we might get somewhere.
I also want to see a review of the top earners saleries and perks starting with DelTech Mr. George. only a gov gives someone a 90K expense account
Ben, you can't spell worth a s**t. I sill like you though...Peace.
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| Even having the state bigwigs serve at $!/year wouldn't solve the budget problem. For some better ideas go to http://www.DelawaresBadHabit.com. There are ways to do this without cutting the pay of everyone. Attrition, early retirement, changing some self imposed rules, etc., can get us there. Fewer people in the end will be needed , though, to keep us from going right back in the ditch next year for the 2011 budget. Anyone who thinks this economy will turn around by then is listening to too much of Obama's BS. We'll be right back to raising taxes and cutting into pay [it's over half the budget so it gets a lot of attention] if we don't get the employee numbers down.
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There is no need to cut state worker pay, benefits, or to entertain thoughts of layoffs and furloughs. If the Delaware legislature really cared, they, Markell, Denn, and their cabinet members would be serving at $1.00 yearly pay until economics turns - as it will - and improves.
Bet there will be revised - UPWARDS - revenue estimates on or soon after July 1.
There would be massive amounts of money not spent if welfare, food, and housing assistnce from the tax kettle were discontinued. That's best run privately.
BTW, ain't it interesting that that "sunshine" law was passed in the Legislature, but not signed by Jack until AFTER the JFC made its pay cut recommendations? Dennis Williams refused to honor the law until it was signed.
Every member of that group, and for that matter, all current legislators, regardless of arty and track record, need to be voted out at the first opportunity, be it 2010 or 2012.
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WWJD wrote: A lot of good that did. Maybe the full House or Senate will vote against the 2.5% and make the "Big EMpty Head" Committee consider better alternatives like layoffs or furloughs. I will write them a list of expendable employees in my Department where they can start.
If they did layoffs How much of a burden would that put on the unemployement payouts? Del like a bunch of other states is probably broke where unemployment is concerned.
Positions, state jobs need to be permanantly removed. No job here anymore.
BUTT as you see its a big butt, The effect of say getting rid of 5k jobs is that 5k more people are unemployed. Burdening an already strained system. We all know there are at least that many created just to keep the masses working jobs in the state.
Really the only option is to cut pay and benefits or the job goes bye bye permanantly. Youre idea about cutting half an hour off the work day is good too. couple that with no over time period not at all, except maybe cops, and we might get somewhere.
I also want to see a review of the top earners saleries and perks starting with DelTech Mr. George. only a gov gives someone a 90K expense account
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| A lot of good that did. Maybe the full House or Senate will vote against the 2.5% and make the "Big EMpty Head" Committee consider better alternatives like layoffs or furloughs. I will write them a list of expendable employees in my Department where they can start.
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What do you think?
From the Delaware State News:
Legislators join pay cut rally on Mall
Twenty lawmakers say they oppose reducing state employees’ salaries
By Al Kemp
Delaware State News
DOVER — The number of state legislators opposed to any pay cuts for state employees grew to 20 Thursday evening after nearly 1,000 state employees marched around Legislative Hall chanting and waving signs.
Sgt. Vincent Fiscella, president of State Workers United for a Better Delaware, rallied the crowd from a dais on Legislative Mall. It was the third rally his coalition has organized.
"Before our elected officials take any vote to take money out of our pockets, they should reach out to us," he told the spirited crowd. "We would welcome the opportunity to sit down with the Joint Finance Committee."
The crowd, consisting of teachers, troopers, Teamsters and members of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, arrived on Legislative Mall on foot and by car. Hundreds of chanting protesters piled out of tall coach buses that stopped on Legislative Avenue.
Most of them carried signs reading "NO PAY CUT." More than one sign said "Impeach Markell."
John Rutherford, who works for the Division of Fish and Wildlife, attended the rally with his twin sons Jack and Nolan, 10. His wife Jamie also works for the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control.
Jenny Stevenson, 31, a clerk at the state Department of Elections, said an 8 percent pay cut would be catastrophic to her modest budget.
"The little luxury we do have is cable, and we’d probably have to give that up," she said.
Charlie Neal, who works for the Department of Correction, said he does not know how his family would cope with an 8 percent cut.
"Groceries, we’d have to cut back. The vacations that we’ve worked for. Our savings will be gone," he lamented.
Lt. Lee Clough of the Capitol Police estimated the crowd at about 800.
As the evening wore on, legislators dashed across from Legislative Hall to the grassy Mall one by one to sign the pledge and address the crowd.
Rep. John Kowalko, D-Newark South, called an 8 percent cut "draconian."
Rep. Dick Cathcart, R-Middletown, assured the crowd that "The Republican caucus has pledged to stand behind you."
Staff writer Al Kemp can be reached at 741-8296 or akemp@newszap.com.
Legislative Support
The following legislators have pledged their opposition to any pay reduction for state employees.
SENATE SIGNERS
Sen. Orinda A. "Dori" Conner, R-Penn Acres
Sen. Catherine Cloutier, R-Heatherbrooke
HOUSE SIGNERS
Rep. Donald A. Blakey, R-Camden
Rep. Nick T. Manolakos, R-Hockessin
Rep.William R. "Bobby" Outten, R-Harrington
Rep. William J. Carson, D-Smyrna
Rep. Gerald W. Hocker, R-Ocean View
Rep. Thomas H. Kovach, R-Brandywine Hundred South
Rep. Clifford Lee, R-Laurel
Rep. Daniel Short, R-Seaford
Rep. Dick Cathcart, R-Middletown
Rep. Deborah Hudson, R-Fairthorne
Rep. John Kowalko, D-Newark South
Rep. Joseph Miro, R-Pike Creek Valley
Rep/ William A. Oberle, R-Beechers Lot
Rep. Michael Ramone, R-Middle Run Valley
Rep. Pam Thornburg, R-Dover West
ALSO COMMITTED
Rep. Earl Jaques, D-Glasgow
Rep. Mike Mulrooney, D-Pennwood
Rep. Dennis P. Williams, D-Wilmington North
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| That is favoring one group of people over another. Selective taxation. Not the stuff responsible government is supposed to be about.
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