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TruthwillOut
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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 09:36 pm
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Newshound wrote: A group campaigning to eliminate photo enforcement in Arizona has forced Paradise Valley (Arizona) to admit that it has been shortchanging drivers. A volunteer with the group Camerafraud.com discovered the city used illegally short yellows at the intersection of Tatum Boulevard and McDonald Drive. The motorist was mailed a red light camera ticket for allegedly entering the intersection just 0.2 seconds after the light had turned red.

“I was nailed with a ticket at an intersection that left me very perplexed because I didn’t think I was going to get a ticket,” David K. wrote on June 16. “I thought I was close enough to the intersection to pass the limit line before the light turned red. Well, I thought wrong because the duration for the yellow light on a 40 MPH speed limit road was only three seconds…” *

…Altogether, 1063 motorists issued red light camera tickets between May 6 and June 16 will receive refunds if paid or have their citations canceled. Most have not paid. This represents a loss of $193,466 in potential revenue to the city.

It’s important to note that less than a day after the whistleblower posted his video online and contacted the city, Paradise Valley quietly corrected the yellow light timing to the proper threshold. A video made by the driver before-and-after was the only proof of the misdeed, so you can be assured that without it the issue would have been quietly swept under the rug.

Redflex and Paradise Valley: Where perpetrating fraud is always about the money.
http://camerafraud.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/paradise-valley-caught-in-193k-ticket-fraud/

see this is how we change crap documented evidence.

Does anyone beleive its anything more than revenue generation? Thats all the redlight cameras are.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 09:27 pm
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A group campaigning to eliminate photo enforcement in Arizona has forced Paradise Valley (Arizona) to admit that it has been shortchanging drivers. A volunteer with the group Camerafraud.com discovered the city used illegally short yellows at the intersection of Tatum Boulevard and McDonald Drive. The motorist was mailed a red light camera ticket for allegedly entering the intersection just 0.2 seconds after the light had turned red.

“I was nailed with a ticket at an intersection that left me very perplexed because I didn’t think I was going to get a ticket,” David K. wrote on June 16. “I thought I was close enough to the intersection to pass the limit line before the light turned red. Well, I thought wrong because the duration for the yellow light on a 40 MPH speed limit road was only three seconds…” *

…Altogether, 1063 motorists issued red light camera tickets between May 6 and June 16 will receive refunds if paid or have their citations canceled. Most have not paid. This represents a loss of $193,466 in potential revenue to the city.

It’s important to note that less than a day after the whistleblower posted his video online and contacted the city, Paradise Valley quietly corrected the yellow light timing to the proper threshold. A video made by the driver before-and-after was the only proof of the misdeed, so you can be assured that without it the issue would have been quietly swept under the rug.

Redflex and Paradise Valley: Where perpetrating fraud is always about the money.
http://camerafraud.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/paradise-valley-caught-in-193k-ticket-fraud/

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 04:30 pm
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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:

House OKs speed limit camera pilot program


By Lydia Woolever


Delaware State News


DOVER — Two bills pertaining to ensured safety on Delaware roads were delayed until the very end of the legislative session on Tuesday night.


The first bill, House Bill 229, to ban the use of cell phones while driving, was never put on the agenda, effectively dying before any debate could ensue.


The second, House Bill 197, was one of the last bills of the session, being discussed for about 20 minutes around 12:30 a.m. It was approved in the House with a vote of 22 yes, 12 no, five not voting and two absent.


HB 197 would establish a two-year pilot program which authorizes any Delaware police agency to initiate camera and video enforcement of speed limits near work and school zones.


Similar to the red light cameras used upstate, the vehicle speed monitoring systems would produce recorded images of motor vehicles traveling at least 11 miles per hour above the posted speed limit.


Two amendments were added to the bill. House Amendment 1 would limit the implementation of the bill to Wilmington and New Castle County. House Amendment 2 stated that the Department of Motor Vehicles could recoup the costs before disbursements of revenue are available.


Despite the bill’s approval, it was criticized.


Rep. William A. Oberle, R-Beechers Lot, claimed that the bill was solely a revenue generator.


"I have a real problem supporting this legislature because I don’t think the motivation is entirely safety-oriented," he said.


Rep. Helene M. Keeley, D-Wilmington, sponsored a similar bill in the past pertaining to red light cameras.


"[My bill] is the number-one reason I have complaints from my constituents," she said, offering a warning to the bill’s sponsor, Rep. Gerald L. Brady, D-Wilmington.


As the 2009 legislative session ended late Tuesday night, HB 229 will await its chance for debate in the Senate in 2010.


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