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Thomas Jefferson's concept of good government
 
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 Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2009 12:41 am
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Threatened, yes. I was threatened by SP until I learned that dumb is not contagious. I hope she runs, she won't stand a snowballs chance. Not too worry though, she'll shoot off her mouth and shoot hersellf in the foot several times before she even gets a chance to be nominated.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2009 12:16 am
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I would assume that you are referencing her rhetorical expression of the proximity of Alaska to Russia and the on-slot of jokes and finger pointing from the liberal media that ensued and, obviously, continues today by those who feel threatened by this woman.


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 Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 04:20 pm
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She was in way over her head!  Money is now what she sees, no longer Russia.


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 Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 03:50 pm
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That's right, Esther.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 12th, 2009 03:55 pm
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Sun City Watch wrote: SP is a reject, even from Alaska!  Gone fishin!

She still has YOU talking about her...LOL.  :D

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 Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 05:39 am
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SP is a reject, even from Alaska!  Gone fishin!

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 Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 12:18 am
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I have doubts about her because she ran with neocon McCain.  I haven't ruled out

voting for her if she were to run.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 09:09 pm
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I agree with you, Chad.  I hope we see her again soon.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 08:12 am
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pipeman wrote: Chad Roche wrote: JStenglein wrote: We need a modern day Jefferson.  :(
The problem is, I know so many who think like him, but politics is such a game and so corrupt.  More good people need to stand up and be heard!


Sarah Palin.....average, normal, citizen who got involved when she saw government gone bad. She's willing to stand up to her own party (how many politicians will do that??!). She is a mom, wife, and friend. She is a TRUE representative of Americans because she is in NO WAY part of the Washinton elite...they are terrified of her!

She is a real person, she is an honest person (18 ethics charges and ALL were cleared!!!) She needs to be the next President of the United States of America and get this country back on track.

I agree she isn't perfect and she needs some polishing but overall she is REAL!!
Unfortunately Chad she just resigned. She will step down just before her term ends.


I believe we have more to see from Mrs. Palin.....she's only gearing up. Not only that, if you listen to her speech, she stepped down because her personal political career is becoming a burden on the State of Alaska and the people!?!?!?!? How many politicians would do that?!?!?!?!?!?

I pray she runs in 2012 and is just taking some time off to rest and recollect herself and get the family in a bunker (just kidding). However, she may just be done with it but I don't think she has that kind of personality. If she does disappear from the limelight because of the treatment of her family then I have even MORE respect for her putting her family ahead of her ambitions.

Only time will tell.....http://www.sarahpac.com is still up and running though.......

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 08:06 am
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Chad Roche wrote: JStenglein wrote: We need a modern day Jefferson.  :(
The problem is, I know so many who think like him, but politics is such a game and so corrupt.  More good people need to stand up and be heard!


Sarah Palin.....average, normal, citizen who got involved when she saw government gone bad. She's willing to stand up to her own party (how many politicians will do that??!). She is a mom, wife, and friend. She is a TRUE representative of Americans because she is in NO WAY part of the Washinton elite...they are terrified of her!

She is a real person, she is an honest person (18 ethics charges and ALL were cleared!!!) She needs to be the next President of the United States of America and get this country back on track.

I agree she isn't perfect and she needs some polishing but overall she is REAL!!
Unfortunately Chad she just resigned. She will step down just before her term ends.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 08:00 am
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JStenglein wrote: We need a modern day Jefferson.  :(
The problem is, I know so many who think like him, but politics is such a game and so corrupt.  More good people need to stand up and be heard!


Sarah Palin.....average, normal, citizen who got involved when she saw government gone bad. She's willing to stand up to her own party (how many politicians will do that??!). She is a mom, wife, and friend. She is a TRUE representative of Americans because she is in NO WAY part of the Washinton elite...they are terrified of her!

She is a real person, she is an honest person (18 ethics charges and ALL were cleared!!!) She needs to be the next President of the United States of America and get this country back on track.

I agree she isn't perfect and she needs some polishing but overall she is REAL!!

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 02:11 am
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Citizen Joe wrote: I sure agree with your comments.  Perhaps the problem is that we have allowed  politics to become too "professionalized".  In the early days, citizens went into public service for a few years and then went back to the "real world".  Too many of our office-holders now are "career politicians" who don't know anything else.  They have far too much faith in government as the solution to every problem.  But if we keep voting them in, the ultimate blame is on us as citizens.True. I used to be opposed to term limits, but now I am not so sure they aren't a great idea.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 09:37 pm
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I sure agree with your comments.  Perhaps the problem is that we have allowed  politics to become too "professionalized".  In the early days, citizens went into public service for a few years and then went back to the "real world".  Too many of our office-holders now are "career politicians" who don't know anything else.  They have far too much faith in government as the solution to every problem.  But if we keep voting them in, the ultimate blame is on us as citizens.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 09:28 pm
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I agree flyrep. They are concerned with getting elected. They are trying to appear in the center so they don't ruffle any feathers.  It is cowardly. I learned a lot about this in the AJ election this year. Instead of being concerned with issues and ideology, some were too concerned with frivolity and posturing.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 08:57 pm
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Most politicians say that they like Jefferson and the Constitution, but their actions

prove otherwise.  Very few have the guts to be Constitutionalists.  It is easier to

call us terrorists in the hope that we'll back off so they may realize their selfish motives. 

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 06:05 pm
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We need a modern day Jefferson.  :(
The problem is, I know so many who think like him, but politics is such a game and so corrupt.  More good people need to stand up and be heard!

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 01:57 am
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Fellow citizens--

A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.  This is the sum of good government.

(From his first inaugural address, March 4, 1801)


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