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Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 01:53 pm |
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That's a good one. How many times I've heard my wife talking about the DSP troopers sitting in the dark at 0500 in the route 1 median when she drives to work. Or the DSP trooper who stopped my wife in Frederica for not coming to a complete stop at the stop sign at 0500. By complete stop he said that her front end had to "rise up" or "bounce up" or something like that when your car stops. She said he was a prick about it too, and ticketed her. (I was in Iraq at the time, and this was in her daily emails to me) In traffic court the judge threw it out because it was so assinine. If our guys stop somone for speeding 20 over then they won't get off in court.
You can pick apart anything our guys do out there, and that's ok. If folks are in an uproar because they think they're gonna get hammered for going 50mph then they are worrying over nothing. Our guys don't have to worry about that because there is always someone running 65 or 70+ that they can stop.
You can call me bubba, or any name, all you want if it makes you feel better. Again, I simply say that if you don't want to get stopped for speeding through our town, then don't speed.
There are tons of oblivions driving our roads everyday who don't pay attention to their speed, or safety, causing horrible wrecks and injuries. When our guys ask a southbound stop about the sign most drivers say "what sign?".
Personally, I like the sign. I enjoy it. I support property owner's rights all day, everyday, 100%. If I want to put a sign in my yard that says "abortion kills" that's my right. Would everyone be up in arms over that? It ain't about the sign folks.
Again, enough with the poor dead horse.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 12:49 am |
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A trap, certainly by definition, would catch an "unsuspecting" animal, not a dumb one.
Only a *dumb* animal would sit in harm's way in the dark waiting to be run over, but I'm sure only by definition.
Look, it's easy to say "we have Felton police to save Felton from the vandals and society lowlifes that need to be shown their inability to stay with in the confines of the
law", we need that , but there are those of us that see nothing of the Felton police, except what we see of their activity on the highway.
I happen to be one that wants a little lenience in society. 5-7 mph over the speed limit, "not worth a ticket, but let's slow it down, have a nice day." Didn't do a 4 wheel stop at that stop sign where you can see traffic 30 yards from that stop sign? not worth a ticket, I understand, but be more careful next time, MmmmmK?"
No one wants to have Deputy Morgan, Macon County running the show, but with
"don't like it, then don't speed through our town " responses, nuthin but Felton town, Mason County Line comes to mind.
You too? Bubba Rescue48?
I'm sure a lot of money is brought in by the speeders on the highway, but are laws enacted for revenue, or for the safety of people? I want to feel safe, but I don't like to work hard, pay taxes AND feel raped because I inadvertantly forgot to hit 45 at that spot where the sign says *45*.
So, if it is 70 + speeds, then by all means, but don't make it seem like I should worry if I daydream and coast in a little above the radar. Let us know, its not the likes of me you're hiding in the dark for!!!!!
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What I am reading now is what I feel is beating the proverbial dead horse. I am not aware of any rules that say we have to use marked vehicles. If you find one, let me know and I will inquire about it.
We have approximately 22 hours of coverage everyday to my understanding. That varies with finishing up any administrative duties, reports, bookings etc. It may change to 24 in the near future.
As far as definitions of speed traps etc., it can also be said that a trap is something used to catch a dumb animal. I do not now, nor will I ever, agree that anything coming close to constituting a "speed trap" is in existence. That's my point of view. If you don't like it, then don't speed through our town.
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DoverGoinDown wrote: I know I have seen a black SUV parked in the U-turn lane just north of Goose Creek at night with his lights turned off. Simply unsafe for anyone.
I got gas at Goose Creek and deliberately pulled behind him. He then hit his brake lights so I could see to go around him. He didn't move, just flashed his lights so I could see not to run into him.
No, no speed trap there!!!! lol.
I know there are police officers that do deserve respect for what they do to protect and serve. There is no dignity in hiding in the dark and putting others in harms way. JMHO.
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I know I have seen a black SUV parked in the U-turn lane just north of Goose Creek at night with his lights turned off. Simply unsafe for anyone.
I got gas at Goose Creek and deliberately pulled behind him. He then hit his brake lights so I could see to go around him. He didn't move, just flashed his lights so I could see not to run into him.
No, no speed trap there!!!! lol.
I know there are police officers that do deserve respect for what they do to protect and serve. There is no dignity in hiding in the dark and putting others in harms way. JMHO.
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If you desire to be annexed into town, just submit the request and council will review it.
No, thank you. Why would I want to do that?
I do it to serve my community. What an idea!
What is that supposed to mean? That we don't serve our non profit organizations for the same reason? I think it is great anytime someone serves their community. For the most part, your views and mine just don't mesh.
It's not a speed trap when the speed limit is clearly marked
And yet again, I will post the definition for a speed trap according to Wikipedia:
Cities or road sections become known as speed traps where police have a reputation for writing an unusually high number of traffic tickets, especially speeding tickets.
In many of these uses, the term speed trap connotes speed limit enforcement for purposes of ticket revenue or traffic deterrence instead of safety. Such speed traps may be referred to as revenue traps.
The only "image" problem we have is people bashing the cops here on this forum.
No one is "bashing" the cops. They are just questioning the procedures that they are using to conduct "speed enforcement". I will say that there is one police officer that I have witnessed conducting "speed enforcement" in an appropriate manner. I believe that he is the part time officer. He has his lights on when he is supposed to and he sits on the shoulder (never in a "questionable" boundary area and never blocking traffic). He is also always in a marked car. As I (and many others) have said before, if the sign in my yard slows motorists down, then it is promoting safety. No one should have a problem with that. The FPD should not have wanted the sign to come down. If they hadn't call DelDOT the sign would not have been public news, this forum wouldn't exist, and the sign probably would have come down after the 111 days. We have received a lot of "thank you's" and requests to keep it up because the town is known for it's "high number of traffic tickets". The public has spoken....we shouldn't have to go to meetings to be heard.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11th, 2009 11:38 am |
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dmac wrote:
As far as I'm aware FPD has no detectives, so all police vehicles should be clearly marked and identified. Not unmarked so to hide in plain sight.
I never received saw a reply to the above statement.
The law should not be broken to enforce a law either. What I'm referring to is parking at a stop sign to do speed enforcement. The FPD parks at the stop sign on the road just north of Goose Creek and at the exit/entrance to Hidden Pond. It is unlawful to park within 30' of a stop sign.
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CitizenUSA wrote: I'm not knocking the police and have no problem with radar I just wonder why they keep doing things that are questionable to the rest of us.
Because they can; i.e., arrogance.
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Those were only partial answers to my questions. Do they work 24/7? I know that if you call at night it goes to State Police.
And yes, on the south side of the of the Mobile/Gulf are signs and they sat behind them for as long as I can remember. I am guessing someone told them they were not in town limits since they stopped using that spot. I also don't see how sitting at a dead stop blocking traffic in the turn lanes and crossovewrs is legal. My point is that if you are going to run radar and your answer is that the speed limit is posted, than there is no reason for unmarked police vehicles to do those things. If I was to break down or just stop and sit in those same areas, I would be told to move or get a ticket, call a tow truck. 
I'm not knocking the police and have no problem with radar I just wonder why they keep doing things that are questionable to the rest of us.
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Out of curiosity, how many police officers does Felton have on payroll? And are they on duty 24/7 And by logic, if you reduce the number, wouldn't more money go to the town instead of to salaries?
We have 4. We also have a part time officer that works when one of the regulars is on vacation, and some weekends.
Also what is the difference between hiding behind a sign in a cruiser and sitting in a crossover or turn lane in the unmarked vehicle with the tail gate up and shooting the radar over the hood? Since the speed limit is posted, there really isn't a reason to disguise oneself as a vehicle that is broken down. Just be out in the open and get themif they are speeding.
If you can see them so easily, you just made my point. They are not disguising anything. They are clearly conducting speed zone enforcement. If people choose to speed, then they get stopped.
And if the south side of the highway was just recently annexed, wouldn't all those tickets that were written when the police were hiding behind signs at the Mobile station be invalid?? Just asking.
I don't know of any signs big enough to camouflage a police cruiser at the Mobil gas station. As to where you see the cars stopped, that doesn't equate to where the vehicle was observed in violation of the speed zone. I have seen our guys with a stopped car all the way up towards the Canterbury Shore Stop, and as far South as the Uncle Willies BP. It just matters where the cars pull over to stop.
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Out of curiosity, how many police officers does Felton have on payroll? And are they on duty 24/7 And by logic, if you reduce the number, wouldn't more money go to the town instead of to salaries?
Also what is the difference between hiding behind a sign in a cruiser and sitting in a crossover or turn lane in the unmarked vehicle with the tail gate up and shooting the radar over the hood? Since the speed limit is posted, there really isn't a reason to disguise oneself as a vehicle that is broken down. Just be out in the open and get themif they are speeding.
And if the south side of the highway was just recently annexed, wouldn't all those tickets that were written when the police were hiding behind signs at the Mobile station be invalid?? Just asking.
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Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 09:44 pm |
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I don't contradict myself, sir. I just wanted to hear it out of your mouth before I check it out. As a Town Councilman, you should answer questions when they are asked of you.
Please, by all means, check out whatever you like. I have answered every question.
It is a good thing that I do not live inside the boundaries of Felton because I would certainly not vote for your re-election.
If you desire to be annexed into town, just submit the request and council will review it. You have every right to vote for whom you wish. I don't serve on council to seek glory, or get some feeling of importance or power. I do it to serve my community. What an idea! That's still a worthy cause in my moral makeup. I receive no salary for what I do. I do it for the town I live in, just like giving my free time to my other civic organizations. If my fellow citizens choose to vote for someone else next time, so be it. I will not be upset one bit about it. (My term is up next March by the way, to answer the next question. If someone wants to run, just inquire at town hall to get the requirements.) I do it for the joy of serving, nothing more. I can just as easily take that time and devote it to one of my other volunteer activities.
I agree that someone that is excessively speeding and reckless does deserve a ticket. I do not think that you get them by setting up speed traps.
It's not a speed trap when the speed limit is clearly marked. There are no billboard signs with cruisers hiding behind them. Our guys are right there in the open.
It also does not look good on your part to say,” But please continue to speed through our town. It is a wonderful revenue source so we don't have to raise taxes on the residents.” That is promoting the act of speeding so that your town can profit. I believe that you could better serve your town and its people by trying to find another source of revenue.
You may be right. But hey, if Joe Biden gets a constant pass by the media for his gaffes, maybe I can get one here from time to time. (sarcasm inserted)
It would also promote the town’s image which is obviously in need of some help. No one is against the Felton PD coming to the aid of your daughter or patrolling locally, but most probably believe that there is a quota that the Felton PD are required to meet. It is their job to protect the town, but I don’t think that the motorists should be “footing the bill”.
The only "image" problem we have is people bashing the cops here on this forum. No one has come to council meeting and said anything in person. There is no quota by the way.
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I don't contradict myself, sir. I just wanted to hear it out of your mouth before I check it out. As a Town Councilman, you should answer questions when they are asked of you. It is a good thing that I do not live inside the boundaries of Felton because I would certainly not vote for your re-election.
I agree that someone that is excessively speeding and reckless does deserve a ticket. I do not think that you get them by setting up speed traps. It also does not look good on your part to say,” But please continue to speed through our town. It is a wonderful revenue source so we don't have to raise taxes on the residents.” That is promoting the act of speeding so that your town can profit. I believe that you could better serve your town and its people by trying to find another source of revenue. It would also promote the town’s image which is obviously in need of some help. No one is against the Felton PD coming to the aid of your daughter or patrolling locally, but most probably believe that there is a quota that the Felton PD are required to meet. It is their job to protect the town, but I don’t think that the motorists should be “footing the bill”.
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coophealy wrote: The way I see it, I’m not attacking you….I’m asking questions that you are avoiding answering. Is northbound Route 13, south of the Felton light, inside the NEW Felton boundaries? You have yet to answer that question. Instead, you want to make me go down to your Town Hall and ask to SEE the map. I should be able to get a copy, but more importantly I should be able to get an answer from you. You have posted that you are a councilman for Felton, so answer the question. Were your town police in their boundaries when they were operating south of the Felton light (northbound side)? Let’s see if you are truthful. I will check. I have not avoided any questions. Both sides of the highway are valid. If you don't want to see a map, then don't go. You contradict yourself every other sentence. You say in one sentence "I will check". Well, by all means, please do. I am not making you do anything here. Do, or do not do; it matters not to me either way. I just do not like when they operate outside their jurisdiction or they abuse their power. I do not like when a policeman writes a ticket for the sole purpose of making sure that there is enough money in the Town Treasury to meet his salary. That should not be his purpose. His purpose is to “protect and serve”. They operate properly and in their proper place. They also are called often outside of town to cover calls when DSP isn't able to respond due to being overwhelmed; which is also quite often unfortunately. They also answer calls for assistance from Harrington and Camden PD; and I think even Dover on occasion. They are also mandated to spend half of their time on patrol in town. Everyone just likes to criticize the speed enforcement they do. As I have stated before, my wife and I called them once when our then teenage daughter was home alone while we were out on a day trip and called us for hearing a noise in the house upstairs. We instructed her to call 911 and get in her car and drive around the corner. Our officers were there within a couple minutes and checked out what was most likely a normal 2-story house settling noise and nothing more. I could go on and on. It's obvious that there are folks who will always disagree with me. I support the officers 100%.
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dmac wrote: I think 88 does happen but only rarely. I would quess most tickets are for people going 56-65 mph.
It happens much more often than you realize. From my conversations with the officers, most tickets are written in the 70+ range believe it or not. I was even told of a 102mph. Not at midnight, or 5am, this was in the evening.
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coophealy wrote: I do not like when a policeman writes a ticket for the sole purpose of making sure that there is enough money in the Town Treasury to meet his salary. That should not be his purpose. His purpose is to “protect and serve”.
Wrong, dear. Not in and around small towns in Delaware, where the primary responsibility of town police officers is that of raising revenue for the town with full knowledge that one's continued employment is dependent upon those dollars.
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The way I see it, I’m not attacking you….I’m asking questions that you are avoiding answering. Is northbound Route 13, south of the Felton light, inside the NEW Felton boundaries? You have yet to answer that question. Instead, you want to make me go down to your Town Hall and ask to SEE the map. I should be able to get a copy, but more importantly I should be able to get an answer from you. You have posted that you are a councilman for Felton, so answer the question. Were your town police in their boundaries when they were operating south of the Felton light (northbound side)? Let’s see if you are truthful. I will check.
I also want to say that I am not against the police (as I have stated many times before). I am glad that they are there also. I just do not like when they operate outside their jurisdiction or they abuse their power. I do not like when a policeman writes a ticket for the sole purpose of making sure that there is enough money in the Town Treasury to meet his salary. That should not be his purpose. His purpose is to “protect and serve”.
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I think 88 does happen but only rarely. I would quess most tickets are for people going 56-65 mph.
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The only cars flying that fast are the Felton cops attacking their prey. lol
I'm not sure if there is a lenience from the 45 mph speed limit, but I'd be curious
to know how fast the speeders are going when given a ticket. Any public record
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Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 01:25 pm |
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Absolutely right. I hide nothing. I shed no tears for people stopped doing 88mph through our town.
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Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 01:25 am |
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Here is proof that the speed enforcement on 13 is meant as a revenue generator.
I found this comment listed on speedtrap.org, do a search under Delaware then Felton.
Rescue48
11/26/08 @ 5:46 pm
The speed is rated at 45 on both sides of the highway. The zone is a very short one; just about a tenth of a mile or so on either side of the traffic light, then it's back to 55. But please continue to speed through our town. It is a wonderful revenue source so we don't have to raise taxes on the residents.
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I understand you are mad because your husband was issued a citation. If it makes you feel better to take it out on me in this forum, no worries, go for it. That's the beauty of free speech. I said the map was old, and it is old. It's dated 2006. Our maps were updated earlier this spring with the annexation. The state will not be updating maps online anymore because they simply are unable to keep up with changing boundaries for all the municipalities in the state. They will maintain the records, but not online. That's the way I understand it.
If you really desire to see a map of Felton, simply go to town hall and ask to look at it.
Our police do a d**n fine job protecting our town and its citizens, and I'm glad we have them.
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 01:29 am |
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The bottom line is the enforcement on the highway has nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with bringing revenue to the town. Below is the State of Delaware law on where the FPD can legally perform speed enforcement.
As far as I'm aware FPD has no detectives, so all police vehicles should be cleary maked and identified. Not unmarked so to hide in plain sight.
TITLE 21,CHAPTER 7. ENFORCEMENT; ARREST, BAIL AND APPEAL,
§ 701. Arrest without warrant for motor vehicle violations.
(e) No municipal, town or city police department shall operate any speed enforcement equipment outside of its corporate limits, notwithstanding any municipal charter provision or provision of this Code to the contrary.
The changes in the town limits is to get more frontage on Rt 13 and for tax purposes for the proposed Royal Farms Store.
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Yea, I got a lot. As you can see, that map is on the website that hosts all the municipal sites and maps. So, supply a new map, Mr. Councilman. I would hope that as a councilman they would supply you with one. You seem computer savvy enough to be able to post it. It would probably still show (if there is such a map) that the boundaries do not extend south of the light and that the DelDot signs are wrong and should not be there. I believe you are being short and vague because you don't want the public to know where the new boundary lines are. I would still bet that the boundaries do not extend to the eastern side of the highway. Bottom line is....Mr. Councilman, where is this new map? The map that I supplied is on the Delaware web site, where is yours? Oh, and have a happy holiday weekend everyone. Drive safe.
New sign is up and in place. This one isn't going anywhere.
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The gas station is in town limits. We annexed it and properties south of it recently. The map is old.
Got anything else?
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Wow, that is an excellent find of the map of Felton. According to that map, a very small section of the Rt 13 is actually under the town of Felton police authority. A small section north of the light, and nothing at all south of the light. Where does the Pratt branch part of the highway begin and end?
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Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 03:56 pm |
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Please check your facts before you post. Here is the link to the boundary map of Felton...
http://stateplanning.delaware.gov/municipal/felton_map.pdf
I have also added the map as an attachment for those that would like to download instead. I do not believe that Kurt and I are reading the map wrong.
If you look at the map, the boundary of Felton stops in town where the funeral home is. The gas station on the corner is also not within the boundaries. Felton boundaries do not cover any part south of the light. The only part of the eastern side of the highway that is within the boundaries is the shoulder of the highway. This means that is the only place that they should sit.
As a Felton Town Council member, you (of all people) should know where the town boundaries are.  Take your blinders off and wake up to do what is right. Ask Ms. Greene (Felton Town Manager) these questions at your next meeting She is in charge of the police department. She is the one ultimately responsible for their actions. Let's see where your priorities are as a councilman.....to do what is right or do whatever means necessary to get money for the town. I'll wait and watch.
Attachment: felton_map.pdf (Downloaded 9 times) Last edited on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 04:01 pm by coophealy
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It's in town limits.
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The sign was damaged during one of our many thunderstorms. We believe that it blew across the highway and was struck by a car (it was in a lot of pieces). Kurt was given a piece of Plexiglas with the promise to put the sign back up. Hopefully, he will get it up this weekend.
As for your other question, you are correct, the south side of the light is not within Felton boundaries. It is my understanding that they have to sit within their boundaries, but they can shoot radar up to .5 mile out of their boundary. If someone knows who to contact to file a complaint, please post. I will try also. I guess the Felton PD feels that the publicity has settled and they can go about their old ways. I'm sure that the town needs the money and the "out of town" motorists won't know that this is out of the town boundaries...especially since the signs are still posted saying that the highway is in the boundaries. DelDot has never taken them down. I guess the public needs to respond again....Kurt and I are only two people. We can keep the sign up, but it won't stop them from sitting outside their boundaries.
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What's up with the sign? I t looks like it is coming down one piece at a time.
The Highwaymen (FPD) were out in force yesterday. They had the Expedition in the northbound lane, between the trash company and Wilkies, with the back hatch up clocking traffic. I thought that was out of town limits?
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| hey Kurt and Lisa hope all is well, and that the sign is still in place.
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Maybe they are on some kind of speed and trapped in their own little world . speed traps get it
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| Did you realize that this thread was about a speed trap ahead sign that is located in Felton, DE. Mabye you meant to post on another thread about vehicle maintenance?
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 04:58 pm |
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| I check my car almost daily to make sure every light works, I keep good tires on it and keep it tuned up, and repaired, so I'm not worried about being stopped. Most people don't do anything to their car until they get stopped and get a ticket and then cry about it. Others wait until it's broken then they have to get it fixed. Then you even have some that just don't take care of their car and the next you know it needs a whole mess of repairs at one time. Such as brakes, rotors, shocks, tires, lights and so on. Now you must pay big bucks because you just let the car totally wear out, or just buy a new car and start running it into the ground too.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:50 pm |
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I was thinking about this the other day I drove north on New Burton Road into Dover. As you approach Southern States, on the other side (your right) there is a fence with signs on it about the Iraq war.
How about all those We Buy Houses signs? The realtor signs for developments and all the political signs? Arent they often on STATE LAND?
Oh no, DelDot isnt singling anyone out.
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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 12:00 am |
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| I ventured past felton today just after noon and Levi was standing in the rain along the southbound side of rt 13 interviewing some hapless driver. Maybe the driver's wipers didn't keep the windshield clear enough to be able to read the only important roadside sign in the vicinity.
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 07:06 pm |
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| Harrassment.
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 02:38 pm |
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I flashed my lights , pulled off the side of the road and hung out the window waving my arms to get the attention of a state trooper who was stopped at a stop sign at Peach Basket Rd to report a driver who had just run 2 cars off the road AND almost ran into the back of me coming down RT 12. I wanted to let him know this driver was doing excessive speed heading into town. Don't you know that the trooper ignored me, and there wasn't one Felton cop in sight all the way through town. Apparently flashing one's lights is only good for attracting Felton Police and gang initiations. Last edited on Sun Apr 12th, 2009 03:32 am by CitizenUSA
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 12:04 pm |
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| I'd have to agree with two cents on this one Kurt's already got the close eye of the locals on him because he beat them over the sign, why hand yourself over on a silver platter to them don't give them the satisfaction of pulling you over
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Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 01:02 am |
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Your husband probably invited a very thorough safety inspection of his vehicle right there and then by flashing the lights. Complete vehicle lighting and turn signal checks, brakes, exhaust system, windshield wipers, horn, cigarette lighter, and anything else that one could think of. Not necessarily a wise thing to do by the man with a speed trap sign in his front yard!
So now you and he know that motorists in the felton area are not supposed to turn on their headlights unless they intend to keep them on -- unless they are summoning the town police for assistance.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 10:26 pm |
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Sorry about the multiple postings. I had no idea. I kept getting a "crash" error and it was during that bad thunderstorm.
I wanted to share Kurt's experience with the Felton chief of police today. He pulled Kurt over because Kurt was flashing his headlights. The chief explained that he thought that Kurt needed his assistance. Kurt said that he didn't think that the chief believed that his assistance was needed. Levi said he did. Anyway, he checked Kurt's license, registration, and insurance and told Kurt to fix his lights. While Levi was checking Kurt in the system, Kurt called my dad. My dad said that he could not give a ticket for that. Levi didn't, but my question is this....doesn't he have to have "reasonable cause" to pull someone over? Did Kurt have to supply the information requested? Is that harrassment? What do you think? Oh, and by the way, he knew that it was the "guy with the sign" since he pulled Kurt over right before Kurt got to our driveway. Let me know your thoughts.
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CitizenUSA wrote: OK what's going on with the sign??? Today it looks like its torn up pretty bad again. Vandalized again or did the wind get hold of it??? I hope it was the wind and not another criminal trespassing and destroying someone's property again.
And has anyone heard anything on that new DELDOT county permit stuff yet???
The wind, I guess, got a hold of the middle part of the sign and it was in the median. We were not home when it happened, but our neighbor called and I noticed it when I came home. Kurt has since put it back together. I keep telling him to do a new one since "the original" is looking worn.
I have forwarded the information to the ACLU attorney regarding the new Kent County requirements and the DelDOT statute. She says that it looks like, to her, that the DelDOT statute is not new. She thinks the only "new" part is the fact that Kent County is requiring the map before applying for the permit. She also said that this statute does not apply to our sign. It is mostly for commercial signs or advertisements. She will contact DelDOT on our behalf if they should try to apply this statute to the sign.
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 01:30 am |
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OK what's going on with the sign??? Today it looks like its torn up pretty bad again. Vandalized again or did the wind get hold of it??? I hope it was the wind and not another criminal trespassing and destroying someone's property again.
And has anyone heard anything on that new DELDOT county permit stuff yet???
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 06:30 pm |
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| feltonmommy how long have you lived in felton?
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 02:27 pm |
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Don't worry about Felton police to much longer, Just like Cheswold and Frederica before them all will slowly give up their town Charters for we the people can and will no longer pay a double tax or allow taxation with out representation.
The names of these towns will always be, but most of We the people would rather pay one tax even if it rises up 20 dollars ( County ) then pay 4000 for two.
Prople solved with Del Dot
Write the speed trap warning in your land scape ( paint a tree ) art and nature as one
Surely the plan is to revove all those housing signs off the road ways , and elections signs away
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Posted: Mon Mar 23rd, 2009 02:47 am |
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Whats interesting is that this would be unconstitutional. I wonder what the ACLU is going to do when they get wind of this!
BTW, the healys sign, and any existing sign, would be grandfathered in. There is plenty of evidence, including press coverage showing that is was there before the law was enacted.
Nature Lover wrote:
Kent County has a message on their website that effective April 1st DELDOT is enacting new sign permitting requirements. All free-standing outdoor advertising signs will require permission from the state in addition to a county building permit. It refers you to Title 17 chapter 11 and that states:
(9) "Outdoor advertising" or "outdoor advertising signs, displays and devices" shall include any outdoor sign, display, device, picture, emblem, trademark, figure, painting, drawing, message, placard, poster, billboard, light or other thing which is designed, intended or used to advertise, to inform or to attract the attention of the traveling public, which is within 660 feet and visible or beyond 660 feet and visible and erected with the purpose of being read from the main traveled way of any state highway.
Interesting!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2009 02:10 am |
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| I like the sign but what I want to know is why does Felton need 5 cars and 4 or 5 cops for a small town?
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