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Speed trap alert nixed by DelDOT -- Felton man put up sign after citation
 
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 Posted: Sun Dec 28th, 2008 01:57 am
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"Mr. Healy’s sign may not be approved by the department, but he argues that it is intended for the safety and convenience of the public."

The set speed limit of 45 mph is intended for the safety and the convenience of the public.  If someone chooses to speed through Felton, they're pretty much just choosing to get a ticket.  Let Chief Brown and Sgt. Swan do their jobs and help protect the many pedestrians and bicyclists who also use that area of Rt. 13, not to mention people who live in Felton who obey the law and the speed limits and would probably prefer not to get into an accident because some idiot decides they're in a rush.

Not to mention, the "speed trap" has nothing to do with people who chose drive around with expired tags.  Think a little.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 27th, 2008 01:35 am
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I know put a speed trap for sale sign up

make  novelty signs  or have speed trap in felton bumper stickers and give them out on the weeked in front of your place




 

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Technically, the last sign could be considered art,  it was hand made, hand lettered, and looked NOTHING like a street sign.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 27th, 2008 12:23 am
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this one is considered art , so  why not have it painted on a car and park it at the edge of your property .

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Just for fun we decided to count non state approved and/or written yard signs while on out way to Dover today. First was the "turnips" sign I recalled on rt 12 Midstate road and I recall a produce stand there all summer. I never wrecked my car reading what was for sale. Guess they didn't know I could sue them and take their house. Never occured to me..hmmmm. Saw a Happy Holidays hand lettered and outlined in lights. Saw numerous for sale signs, a free kittens sign, a free sofa sign, another produce stand, a Merry Christmas sign, several house for sale by owner signs and the list goes on and on from Felton to Dover to Woodside to Camden and back again. So I am curious as to why all those signs  are perfectly ok. Seems that  DEL DOT and the police are singling out one person for busting their bubble.

And about the accident, I was told that Peach Basket was not in town limits so they couldn't respond. Now you tell me what decent officer would have repeatedly passed a mva and not at least checked on the people. The following week they had someone pulled over giving a speeding ticked. Can't really trust anyone anymore can we.

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Just maybe Del -Dot will aprove this sign on the state right away ( buy it for them )

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 Posted: Fri Dec 26th, 2008 08:05 pm
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I often wondered if police officers had the heart to pull over someone on Christmas. 

Whoever that officer is, should be ashamed. I am happy that he had to work on Christmas. 

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Notice that they said "curious" and not complaints.  I do believe that "curious" people wonder if it has hurt the town's revenue.  I'm actually "curious" about that.  Also, my nephew saw that the Felton PD had someone pulled over on Christmas day.  Merry Christmas from Felton to that motorist.  Is that the reputation that the town wants?  Of course, he was on the north side of the highway since I don't have property on that side.  Also, why is the highest paid officer working on Christmas?  Overtime hungry? Is the town manager approving all this overtime?  Who told Sgt. Swan to investigate?  The Chief?  The Town Manager?  The Mayor?  The budget for Felton should be less this year (just like every business) because of the economy.  Cutbacks should be budgeted for, were they?  Does the Felton PD have a quota they have to meet and that is why an officer had to work on Christmas?  Just curious...

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I'm just wondering who the "curious townspeople " who contacted the police might be.. That in itself  sounds stupid. Did the police not know about it till 'curious people called and if so, maybe the police should be paying attention to the town and not the highway. This whole thing is rediculuos, so maybe the rest of the curious people should call in the free kittens/puppies, yard sale, house for rent, elect so and so, and have the police investigate them. Funny thing is, I was involved in a minor accident on Peach Basket and had to wait over an hour for a st cop to come , yet a Felton cop went by 3 times and never stopped to see what had happened.

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felton, Kurt wants to reply to you......he says that you don't know what you are talking about, but yet you are going to tell everyone on here that Kurt is a liar.  I would say that you have some nerve, but then again you are anonymous.  What I stated before is fact.  Kurt says that they were taken down after his ticket.  November 2nd was a Sunday (when Levi ticketed him) and the porta potties left on Monday.  Call the company (5 J's) if you want to check especially when you don't like when people speak about what they don't know.  FLL kept them up later because we had a fall ball season this year.  Also, felton, why don't you introduce yourself to me and Kurt?  You know who we are.  You like to state that everyone is wrong, you are right, we are liars and you know it all.  Have a Happy New Year!!!

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My girlfriend and I drove by Mr. Healy's house today and saw him out front, doing the signal for drivers to slow down.  I noticed two or three no trespassing signs around the 'speed trap ahead" sign.  Anyway, we think he's awesome and my girlfriend wants to send him cookies.  Of course down the road we saw the unmarked ford explorer had someone pulled over.  If I lived on that road Id be throwing up a similar sign as well.

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I'm quite tempted to cruise thru Felton and check out the Christmas lights with the kids. Might just check on that potty too as I was sure I saw the Green Explorer out there today next to it on my way to the bank.  I may be mistaken but......LOL

And I'm just wondering how many DELDOT workers it will take to remove the sign..1 to take the sign down, 8 to watch him and 1 to sleep in the truck!!!

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Many of those porta potties have a hasp into which one could insert the shank of a padlock, thus denying access.    If I were Mr. Healy it would be installed -- today!

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Too funny, CitizenUSA.  Kurt has talked about that also.  Kurt spends hundreds of hours maintaining the FLL grounds.  Actually, FLL pays for the porta johns.  Ironically, after Kurt received his ticket, the officer went to use the FLL porta potty.  Merry Christamas everybody.  Have a great holiday!!!!

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All I can say again is when police officer's start acting like police officers , you know the motto..."To Serve And Protect"... and not tax collectors for the town or bullies with badges, will they get the respect they should be deserving of. And to those who do "Serve and Protect"..God Bless You and keep you safe for you are  true heros.

P.S. is the porta potty at the LL field maintained by the LL or by the town for the use of the police??. Kinda wondering why they can't just drive to the station and use the office toilet.:?

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!

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Kurt said, "Thanks, BG and Have a Merry Christmas!!"  Kurt figured out who you are after I read him your first line....lol.

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Couldn't resist

 

One 4' x 5' Piece of Plywood -$10

Two Cans of Pink and Red Paint - $10

Response from DelDot and the Felton PD - Priceless

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Man, it almost hurts to say it, but I 100% agree with the Healy's. :shock:

The FPD has basically one primary purpose, to generate revenue for the town. The protect and serve part is nearly an afterthought.

As for having the sign removed, I think if there was a real legal confrontation that Kurt's civil rights may be getting violated. After thoroughly reading the code it is more than a stretch with the portion they are using to back their stance, meaning DelDot.

As for the comments from Chris Swan, he can take a flying leap through a rolling doughnut. C'mon Chris, you don't honestly believe what you were quoted as saying do you?

The FPD is notorious for being at the entrance to Hidden Pond, the crossover just before the light heading southbound, and primarily the side of the road near the gated entrance to LFN. I have seen them DOZENS of times in the median crossovers just north of town and at the crossover near the light. And more than a few times with their lights off at night.

Good Luck Kurt and Lisa and Happy Holidays to All!

BG

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The term speed trap can refer to a point where a speed limit is strictly enforced by police. It may also refer to locations where a speed camera is posted. Alternately, the term may also refer to a speed limit that is enforced by timing how long a vehicle takes to transverse a measured distance. Cities or road sections become known as speed traps where police have a reputation for writing an unusually high number of traffic tickets, especially speeding tickets. Sometimes the posted speed limits are not easily seen; in other places, the limits are set such that many vehicles are caught. In many of these uses, the term speed trap connotes speed limit enforcement for purposes of ticket revenue or traffic deterrence instead of safety. I found this definition on wikipedia.  I would definitely say that Felton is a speed trap.  What do you think?

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What is the difference between running radar and setting up a speed trap?  I'm not trying to be smart, I honestly don't know.

 

 

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Did I say speed trap?? NO I SAID RUNNING RADAR!!!. And if it's not Felton PD in the orange vest with a radar gun over the hood in the cross over or in the deceleration lane to that crossover. maybe next time I see it I will call 911, because that is not a parking zone and they are obstructing traffic and I will not pull over If by chance they clock me doing 46 in a 45 and tell them "Felton" said they aren't the Felton Police!!

As for the red hair, let me clarify..strawberry blond, glasses, tall , thin, now drives the blue Impala. And I said the old mobile not the present owned Gulf station and this was in the past, not recently.OK

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Just to let you know I did not say they did not have a soda cooler I said they did not have a soda machine (something that dispenses soda into a cup). 
Also what I said was they do not do speed traps in the turning lane, yes they do sit there and run radar which is two different things.  I hope everyone enjoys there holiday!

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That guy seems to know alot about the police department for not being in the PD.

Also, you statement about the mobile station not having a soda machine is the dumbest thing I have ever read on here.  What about the huge coolers that contain soda in the back?  Do people not walk back to them and grab sodas?  Last time I was in there, I bought a large 1 pint coke from that very cooler.

I also see the felton cops sitting in the turn lane, and in other dangerous positions, as well as speeding through town only to pull into a gas station. I have even had one pass me as I was heading through town, no lights on or anything, with me doing exactly 25mph.  Where did he turn into in such a hurry?  The mobile station! to get a freakin soda!

 

The law is on Mr. Healy's side here, he is being bullyed by Del-Dot.  I sincerely hope that he fights back.

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Interesting.   Four or five police officers in a town with population of 784.    Almost every resident has a personal cop.   No wonder they have to hang around on route 13 to catch anybody they can, in order to generate revenue to support themselves.    Felton doesn't need a police dept at all. 

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Well, felton, I do know what I am talking about.  I will back the person up talking about the Felton PD parking in the turn lane.  Kurt and my nephew have witnessed them parked in the turn lane into Hidden Pond.  The officer actually had to move when a motorist came up behind him to enter the development.  Kurt has also witnessed a Felton PO (just as CitizenUSA reported) sitting in the crossover, shoulder, and turn lane at night with no lights on.  I asked my father (a retired state police officer) if this is legal.  He says that it is not. I would also assume that CitizenUSA is describing Sgt. Swan.  I would say that his hair is red.  CitizenUSA did not say that the officer had a fountain soda, just a large one.  The gas station does sell sodas. It seems, felton, that you enjoy calling all of us liars (anonymously, I might add).  If you believe in "your town" so much, why not make your identity known, like my husband has? 

Also, maybe everyone should read up on the town of Felton.  The link below is where I got my information from, felton.  You seem to invite us to do so.  I believe stevem assumes that you are FeltonPD since you claim to know so much about the town and the police force.  There is a Comprehensive Plan - Certified 2008 on the site that has a section about the police department, but of course, I would never claim to know more about "your town" than you do. Oh, and by the way, who ever said anything about "out of state" people? 


http://stateplanning.delaware.gov/municipal/felton.shtml

It's actually interesting reading.  Especially the boundary map.  It shows that Felton PD only has jurisdiction on the north side of the felton light.  So, Felton PD says that they have written 503 tickets on less than a 1 mile stretch of highway.  This also means that the two DelDOT signs that are posted south of the Felton light are wrong!!  I have been informed that DelDOT knows this and is supposed to remove the signs.  It is interesting that they are more interested in my husband's sign that the two that are making false statements!!  DelDOT should remove those signs first before the one in my yard. 

Lastly, for all of those that say Kurt's protest is misguided, think about it again.  The size of the ticket points to Felton and DelDOT especially.  Ironic how DelDOT is involved now, isn't it?  It also seems obvious that the Felton PD knows someone at DelDOT and that is why my property became an issue in such a short amount of time.  Kurt used his anger the best way he knew how.  He directed his anger in a silent way, on his own property.  It made him feel better, so what?  Especially since it supposedly hasn't affected Felton's income?  It actually is nice to finally find an advantage to living on route 13. 



 

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CitizenUSA FPD has never sat in the turning lane running a speed a trap they always sit in the shoulder.  Another thing there is no FPD that has red hair and there is no way he came out of the Mobile station with a large soda.  They DO NOT have a soda machine.  Like I said early I can not stand people who talk about stuff they have no clue about.

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No am not one of those clowns.  I just do not like when people talk about things they have no clue about.  Let me ask you something.  You tell me how a PO can tell what state  a car is from when they lock in on them at about a 1/2mile out, unless you are from NJ or a state that has a License plate in the front.  So please let me know how they know what state a person is from?

 

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I would like to know how the Felton PD justify PARKING a vehicle Green Ford Explorer in the crossover and running radar. It sits there with the back door up and the cop has the radar over the hood. They sit there alot, no turn signals, no flashers. They also sit in the deceleration lane at a dead stop also without lights or any signals. If I was to do the same I do believe they would be there with a citation for blocking a public roadway or interfering with traffic. If it is illegal for me to do so, than it should be illegal for an officer of the law to break the law to ticket me. And it is quite hypocritical of the police to run our roads above the speed limit when just cruising around. A badge to bully is what it amounts too. Over the years I have known some decent police officers, but in seems that any more, the bad apples are out numbering the good. All you have to do is look in the news everyday. Just travelling trough Felton and Harrington amazes me at the laws being broken by the so called good guys..running stop signs, no signals, parking in fire lanes running radar, speeding (one red haired Felton cop was doing well over 45 northbound when he passed me and ran the red light to get to the then Mobile station. I thought it must have been a robbery in progress so I stayed  there to watch. He came out minutes later with a LARGE SODA. BE EXAMPLES TO THE CITIZENS..NOT BULLIES IN UNIFORMS!!!

As for the sign, it is the man's fault for driving an illegal vehicle, however I believe it is his right to have that sign up on his property. As for causing an accident, I doubt it. If that was the case I guess we would all have to take down our Christmas lights so that someone doesn't look at them and wreck.

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You are obviously one of the clowns that looks for out of staters doing 47 in a 45 instead of doing real police work. 

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It's amazing how little people really know about our town.  First off we have 4 full time officers and currently do not have a part time officer.  Secondly, FPD will not and does not pull anyone over unless they are doing 60+ in the 45 zone.  So the people who say that they pull you over for doing 47mph in a 45mph obviously have no clue what they are talking about.  One other thing, people need to realize that without FPD your town taxes would go up. 

 Mr. H I guess you should of did the right thing in the first place and had your car tagged and stop blaming other people for your own wrong doings. 

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!!

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I do believe that the issue comes down to State Law.  Mr. Healy may wish to check on the Delaware codes.  DelDot can regulate signage on public property, however they probably cannot regulate on private property as long as there is nothing offensive on the signage.

This is from Title 21 of the DE Code:

§ 4111. Display of unauthorized signs, signals or markings.

(a) No person shall place, maintain or display upon or in view of any highway any unauthorized sign, signal, marking or device which purports to be or is an imitation of or resembles an official traffic-control device or railroad sign or signal, or which attempts to direct the movement of traffic or which hides from view or interferes with the effectiveness of any official traffic-control device or any railroad sign or signal.

(b) No person shall place or maintain nor shall any public authority permit upon any highway any traffic sign or signal bearing thereon any commercial advertising, and no person shall attach to any traffic sign or signal any other sign containing commercial advertising.

(c) This section shall not be deemed to prohibit the erection upon private property adjacent to highways of signs giving useful directional information and of a type that cannot be mistaken for official signs, in compliance with § 1108 of Title 17.

(d) Every such prohibited sign, signal or marking is hereby declared to be a public nuisance and the authority having jurisdiction over the highway is hereby empowered to remove the same or cause it to be removed without notice. (21 Del. C. 1953, § 4111; 54 Del. Laws, c. 160, § 1.)

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While I do agree that there is an obvious issue with the police department and that he should have the right to free speech, I do not agree with the way Mr. Healy is going about this. If he was stopped for speeding I would understand putting up a sign stating Speed Trap Ahead. That is not the case though. He was stopped for having expired tags on his vehicle. I would be angry with myself for not doing what I was supposed to and getting my vehicle inspected and properly tagged. If he believed that it would not pass inspection, he still should have taken it in and had it inspected. If it failed, then they would have given him additional time to have repairs made. He did not do that though, he let it go and got caught. Now, not only did he have to pay the ticket, but did he have to have the vehicle repaired? If so, he is out even more money. What result is he looking for? If the trap wasn't there he still would have been stopped.

It is also not the officers problem if he is out of work and cannot afford the ticket. I do feel for him and understand about being short on cash, but it is not the responsibility of the officer to pick and choose who gets a ticket based on thier income. While the amount of the ticket is high, that is the penalty for not following the law. As stated in another post, the part of the ticket going to the police is less than half of the ticket. Most of it is going to the state. Why not go after the state to make your point. It seems to me that he is putting the town police in the spotlight for stopping him in the first place. His being stopped for expired tags has nothing to do with the obvious speed trap.

After living there for 20 years as stated and watching the injustice happening the whole time, why do something about is now? It seems he is bitter about having been caught. I drive through Felton twice a day almost every day and have never been stopped. Regardless if there is a speed trap there, follow the posted speed limit signs and slow down. If people can read the sign in Mr. Healy's yard, I think that they can also read the road signs posting the speed limit. 


I hope everything works out and Mr. Healy gets the results that he was hoping for. 

Happy Holidays and God Bless!

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"The problem isn't the cost of the fine, pretty cheap when you think about it, it's the fact he rode around on expired tags for 4 months and has no one to blame but himself. Sorry, I oppose the speed traps in felton,harrington, and all the little towns, but speed wasn't an issue here, just pure neglect."

First, the chief of police's recollection of the time my husband's tags were expired is incorrect.  His tags had been expired for just over a month.  Kurt has never said that he was not in violation, if you read the article, he states that he did not believe that the fine fit the crime.  He has also stated that he was mad about the fine when he painted the sign.  In an interview on WGMD, he stated that since Felton took some money out of our pocket, he wanted to see how they liked it.  Kurt has been unemployed since March, and he was trying to wait to fix his car since he did not think that it would pass.  It still is not an excuse, but the $111 would have fixed his car. 

We have lived at this location for 20 years.  We have seen the Felton police department pull over hundreds of motorists.  After this incident, we feel that they have lost sight of what their purpose is...."to protect and serve".  We are not against law enforcement...my father is a retired state policeman.  We are against local law using the public to fund the entire town treasury.  As a Controller of a business, I do not believe that Felton needs five full time officers and one part time.  I'm also curious what Felton's budget is and how much is anticipated from the tickets they issue.  We do not believe that Sgt. Swan had our best interests in mind when he researched the code.  We also do not believe that our sign has not affected their revenue.  If not, why bother our silent protest?

negrr7, our protest is also against the amount of the fine.  Felton only keeps the fine amount (which was $50 in Kurt's case).  The rest is for various departments in the State of Delaware.  Three fines were added last year.  One of them, of course, is for DelDOT.  It is called "Transportation Costs".  It is half of the fine amount.  This is to try to build up their road fund that has been depleted.  The two other fines that were added were the DELJIS fund which is $1 and Court Security which is $15. 

You don't have to agree with our protest, negrr7, that is your right.  It is also our right to put whatever we want on our property and to protest something that we do not feel is fair.  We want everyone to have a Happy Holiday and a prosperous New Year without having to come up with an unexpected monetary penalty like we did.

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FromFelton wrote: Does that mean that every sign put in someones lawn has to be approved by del-dot?  What about signs advertising developments, political signs, yard sale signs, for sale signs, ect?  How can they pick and choose which signs they will approve?

His sign did not emulate any traffic sign or traffic control device.  It in no way looked like a steet sign.  Mabye the ACLU should look into this? It sounds like a violation of free speech to me, he just wanted to warn people of our extremely oppresive police department.


I agree 110% with you.  Im rooting for Mr. Healy on this one.  I'd be ticked off too if I was getting a 111 dollar ticket for something stupid like that.  I dont see what the big deal is.  People see the sign and slow down.  Its doing some good.  I thought speed traps like the one they conduct there are illegal anyway?  I may be wrong on that one but I dont  blame a guy for wanting to warn people.  Its no different than truckers warning each other via CB or using a radar detector.  I really loved Officer A-holes statement in the article

"If someone were to look at the sign and get into an accident, he could be held liable.  He could get sued and lose his house." 

 Really?  Almost sounds like a threat to me.  Does that mean I can sue some old lady along that same road because I read her sign advertising homemade jams for sale?   Maybe I can sue some church because I crashed reading one of their weekly messages on their sign  No I think maybe those moron police officers in felton should pack up their speed trap, stop harassing drivers that are going 47 in a 45, have a license plate bulb out, etc. and do something useful for a change.  Theres alot of thugs in the Felton area.  Im not saying ignore the highway but theres more police work to be done that isnt on that stretch of road.

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Mabye its true that its because he was upset, but my point still stands.  Everyone puts signs in their lawn for lots of reasons.  If you make this man take his sign down, then everyone should have to take their signs down.

Del-Dot should not have to approve his sign.  I understand that "Speed Trap" relates something that is happening on the road, but it is far from a traffic sign that should have to be approved.  This mans rights are being openly taken away.  A small thing, yes, but what next? having to get political signs approved?

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Free speech? C'mon people, lets be real here.  Although I do agree that the towns little speed trap is a bit much at times, the fact of the matter is that he is just mad because he got caught.  He didn't have a sign up before that did he?  He wasn't concerned for the public then, and he's not now....just mad.  Granted, an unexpected $111 does seem like alot to most people, but, if you break it down by the day from the time his tags expired, your only talking about a dollar a day roughly.  The problem isn't the cost of the fine, pretty cheap when you think about it, it's the fact he rode around on expired tags for 4 months and has no one to blame but himself.  Sorry, I oppose the speed traps in felton,harrington, and all the little towns, but speed wasn't an issue here, just pure neglect.

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Does that mean that every sign put in someones lawn has to be approved by del-dot?  What about signs advertising developments, political signs, yard sale signs, for sale signs, ect?  How can they pick and choose which signs they will approve?

His sign did not emulate any traffic sign or traffic control device.  It in no way looked like a steet sign.  Mabye the ACLU should look into this? It sounds like a violation of free speech to me, he just wanted to warn people of our extremely oppresive police department.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:

Speed trap alert nixed by DelDOT

Felton man put up sign after citation

By Andrew Abel


Delaware State News


FELTON — Anyone traveling south on U.S. 13 just north of Felton will notice a large pink sign that says "Speed Trap Ahead."


The sign sits in the front yard of Kurte E. Healy, who lives at 10762 S. Dupont Highway. He erected it after being ticketed for an expired registration, just a short distance from his home.


Recently, Delaware’s Department of Transportation sent Mr. Healy a letter notifying him that the sign is not approved by DelDOT and must be removed.


The speed limit on U.S. 13 drops from 55 mph to 45 mph just after Mr. Healy’s house as drivers approach the town. Felton police will often lie in wait there and catch speeders, Mr. Healy said.


"I’m just trying to slow people down ahead of time before they get to town," Mr. Healy said. "I’m saving them from having to pay a big fine they haven’t budgeted for."


Mr. Healy asked DelDOT officials if he could get approval for the sign, but he was told it would never pass. He planned on leaving the sign up for 111 days, correlating with the $111 fine he received.


"I could see $40-$50 for not getting to the Division of Motor Vehicle on time, but $111?" he said. "That’s ridiculous."


Mr. Healy said he received several phone calls from people telling him the sign was a great idea and that he shouldn’t take it down. They told him the only problem was that they couldn’t see the sign at night, he said.


Mr. Healy was given a citation by Felton Police Chief Levi E. Brown on Nov. 2 for having tags that expired in July. He was pulled over by the Felton Little League building near Lake Forest North Elementary School.


"Sure enough, the next day, the sign went up," Chief Brown said.


The police department received a number of calls about the sign from curious townspeople, prompting Sgt. Christopher R. Swan, of the Felton Police Department, to look into the matter. He contacted DelDOT after discovering the sign was in violation of state code.


Under title 21 of state code, "The Department of Transportation may erect and maintain all appropriate signals, lights or any other type of sign on private property over which the Department of Safety and Homeland Security has assumed jurisdiction."


The law also states, "Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the erection and maintenance of signs and signals by private owners of the real property, so long as such signs and signals are for the safety and convenience of the public and are approved by the Department of Transportation."


Mr. Healy’s sign may not be approved by the department, but he argues that it is intended for the safety and convenience of the public.


The sign has not caused any change in the number of tickets issued, Chief Brown said. In November 2007, the police department issued 493 tickets, he said. Last month it issued 503 tickets.


"Just the other day, I pulled a woman over that was going 87 mph," Chief Brown said. "I asked her if she saw the sign about the speed trap."


"What sign?" the woman said.


Sgt. Swan said he requested that DelDOT take action for Mr. Healy’s own good.


"If someone were to look at the sign and get into an accident, he could be held liable," Sgt. Swan said. "He could get sued and lose his house."


DelDOT spokesman Darrel Cole said the public should not be in the business of warning drivers of road conditions or speed traps. Having a sign like that is just "irresponsible," he said.


In the letter Mr. Healy received, he was told he has until Wednesday to take down the sign or DelDOT will remove it for him.


"I think I’ll just let them remove it," Mr. Healy said.


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