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Posted: Thu Mar 6th, 2008 08:54 pm |
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Thank goodness there is someone else that is not on the ex-police chiefs honor roll! There were major changes for the better in some of the police activities, policies within our police department. But it has to be understood "The Chief is Gone" and there is nothing we can do about it! I am sure the dress incident, the car and anything else that was offered,by anyone opened the door to individual speculation.
I personally believe that someone with such strong Christan beliefs, and dialog, would not have intentionally even considered proposing these things. If he/they thought it would have such ramifications and backlash. But to those who are out to deteriorate the image of our current police force (which the old chief, molded and developed) is actually stabbing the former chief in the back! If you honor the man as you say then LEAVE IT ALONE! you are not helping him by getting his issues published in every corner of this country! This man has a lot to offer to other communities! Why not help him? It also should be noted because you or anyone were/are part of his honored police force, does not exactly qualify you or anyone as a potential leader in our fair city.
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Posted: Thu Mar 6th, 2008 04:45 pm |
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I'm not being bitter or being rude, I am merely providing information to open responsive and communication on this board.
I truly LOVE Apache Junction and the success and well-being of our community is my highest priority. I do not appreciate the shame and controversy that Joe Severs, Shannon Flynn, Jim Stevens, and entouRAGE are creating for our distinguished community. The good residents of Apache Junction are very intelligent and will be able to see past the elaborate production that is taking place.
NOTE: I too, like most of you, have now become an unidentified blogger. From today forward, my thoughts will ONLY be discussed in public not anonymously on this board. I will ONLY do this by way of signed letters to the editor or Call to the Public at City Council meetings.
CAROL URICH, A Very Proud Citizen of Apache Junction
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 02:25 pm |
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Ignorance is bliss! and I am sure you challenging the right of other individuals to express themselves, as it appears from your god like attitude makes you feel that your are above it all!!! One trip to a yard sale! Someone saying they know that he is living in that home, because they live down the street.
First the house is empty! and has been empty for at least six week.! Secondly the individual that suggest they live down the street; well I guess they do! WAY, WAY down another street. The only way they even could see the house is by using Google satellite. (And they are friends with J. Severs)
J. Severs is not presently a residence of Apache Junction! Blow all the smoke you want but the truth always wins out.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 10:54 pm |
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| Joe, Joe, Joe--me thinks that you protest too much! Why do you ALWAYS try to play the victim? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. You must realize that we have some very intelligent people in Apache Junction that can see through your smoke screen of your "intent"! Do everyone in Apache Junction a favor and just resign and stay in Gilbert.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 09:58 pm |
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I don't have any personal vendetta towards Mr. Severs. Chasing down his wife and child is terrible as well. I have spoken with him and have found him quite open and congenial. I do have a problem with a representative of mine potentially not living in Apache Junction. Mr Severs house was listed on 1/14 in the MLS as vacant. Any real estate agent with a key, can go in the house at any time. That listing was canceled on 2/28 and relisted with an agent with comments to contact occupant/owner to show property. But no phone number is given to do that.
It seems odd that the house listing was cancelled and relisted just before these articles about his residency appear in the local papers. If it was a mistake to list the house as vacant, why did it take 6 weeks and why change real estate offices. No phone number is given to call occupant so someone can show the house. Mr Severs obviously doesn't want his child to go to school in Apache Junction, since the wife and child have moved to Gilbert (for school residency purposes??). If Mr Severs is planning to live in Apache Junction to complete his term of office, where is he going to live, or where is he living now??? If the house sells tomorrow, where will he be living? His tavern (not in AJ), his mother-in-law's house (not in AJ).
Mr. Severs wants to help the citizens, but doesn't like the city enough to have his family live here. I do agree it isn't about his family, but these bring up viable thoughts about the residency that I hope he can answer promptly to put an end to all of this. Because if his house sells promptly, then he will have a residency issue. For now, he is just skirting the intent of the law, though still abiding by it.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 08:42 pm |
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I ended up at a yard sale at Mr. Severs home one day and I can assure all of you that it resides in AJ.
Let the guy alone already...he IS involved in duties defined to be a city counselman. Just because he may not have helped YOU personally does not constitute a witch hunt on the guy. Perhaps some of you should get out in the world and live your own lives, rather than spending all your waking moments grilling the lives of others. And if all your life is about, is attepting to change others then perhaps you are the one who should move to another town. I certainly don't want you as my neighbor.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 02:13 am |
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Maybe dead body in the trunk was a little far fetched! But hiding the true facts to satisfy( cover) one's ego, might be equal to hiding the facts in the trunk. Stevedore, shipping,.
The editor of the paper appears to be suggesting that someone ( States Attorney, a special investigator), look into the allegations, which could be fraud, at a minimum! Attesting to residency on a recent financial disclosure.! If his residency was not at the address he signed attesting (Swearing) on that document was not his full time residence: then being in a trunk in the fast lane might be the least of his troubles!
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 01:44 am |
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| Down the street? I dont think so!!!!!!!
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 03:45 pm |
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Has everyone seen this from today's AJ News...
“However, Mr. Severs is the sort of guy who thinks having a dead body in the trunk of his car would entitle him to use the car pool lane.” – Statement made by the editor of the AJ News in today’s (March 3rd, 2008) Que Pasa section.
What??? I recognize that the editor has the right to free speech in his editorials, but this statement by the editor of the AJ News lacks professionalism.
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 12:58 am |
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"truth always seems to find it's way to the surface."
Yes. I would hope that Severs is being truthful. As I have said I would think that the city leadership would be out in the open if they know he is indeed living outside the limits of Aj. Maybe that is just too much to ask for though.
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 12:54 am |
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| falsification changes to unlawful very fast! but has ramifications beyond one's belief! There is local, state, and federal statues to be considered. If you stand in wet cement long enough, sometimes there is just no way to escape. No matter how many turns or detours the road seems to have, truth always seems to find it's way to the surface.
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 12:46 am |
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| this is true. Explain your thoughts please. Do u have info on this then we do?
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 12:43 am |
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| Well deciet, is deceit, is deceit
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Posted: Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 03:05 am |
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Got ya. I completely understand. If he is acting outside of the law sooner or later it will be found out. Truth is truth, no way around it.
However, there is a letter going around with other persons full names info and addresses on them. These people would not have a say in Joe's life. They gave the name of his childs school she is attending. Someone was outside his wife's window the other night.
Whoever is doing this is wrong. They are trying to PROVE something and are going about it the wrong way. I will bet to say that Joe will have a statement in the comiging weeks.
I live down the street from him and he and his family were at his house last night and I know he was at a AJ event today. In these days there are MANY reason for his wife and child to live with her mother. His truck being over there means he goes over and spends time with his family. People have it out for the man because he is different and stands up and at times more then raises his voice on matters. No matter what he does people love to blame him and put him in the spot light for whatever reason.
I have talked with him on this matter and I can understand where he is coming from.
"That said it all to me. NOT. (Shannon - I'm really just messing with you, but also suggesting some caution about appearing to accept statements!)"
I enjoy blogging with you as you speak your mind and are a good educater. You hear and are kind. I'm green on so much of these topic's BUT I'm learning fast and am forming my thoughts and reasonings.
I accept his statement because I trust he is telling the truth on this matter. From what I understand when his family lived with him his work took him away from the same home that is in question. I would think that the city atty would know and understand the law of council members living within AJ limits. That he would bring it to both Joe and Hoffman if indeed Joe was in the wrong. People should leave his family out of it. There is a time and place, speak at the city meetings. No one has. GIve him a reason to respond to the people he stands for and with.
I do have certain cautions about accepting many statements from others. I may not know Joe well but I do accept he is saying on this matter. I may be wrong on this matter and if I am then so be it.
I'm not a very trusting person in most areas of life. Test and verify. 
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Posted: Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 12:45 am |
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"I did not have sexual relations with that woman." - Bill Clinton
That said it all to me. NOT. (Shannon - I'm really just messing with you, but also suggesting some caution about appearing to accept statements!)
I like and respect councilman Severs; of all members of the council, he consistently demonstrates concern for individual rights at a time when too many governments favor their own self-interests or the desires of the majority.
However... I would say that the circumstances do appear that Severs might not be as invested in the community as some might want their leadership to be, but conversely, anyone who attends council meetings and speaks with Severs will recognize his commitment to, and genuine concern for our community and our neighbors.
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Posted: Sat Mar 1st, 2008 12:38 am |
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"I am living and working according to the law," said Councilman Severs after learning of the accusation. ''
That says it all to me.
"The mayor of Apache Junction says he does not want to talk about the alleged breach of city code. "I am not commenting on this item," said the mayor. "I don’t want the councilman to think I am behind this because I am not."
Behind what? Seems to me the mayor know's or is apart of something having to do with this. That is the only way he seems to keep his mouth shut these days. He should be defending Councilman Severs as a fellow council member and a part of his team. Or maybe I have that all wrong.
Nice letter from someone who that didnt put HER or his name on it. Following someone home to try to prove something they think they know is NOT RIGHT.
PLEASE CALL Councilman Severs ON THIS! DO NOT GET 2nd HAND INFO ON THIS.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 11:10 pm |
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Severs denies Gilbert residency
Councilman claims
his intent is to fight
for resident rights
By Terrance Thornton
Independent Newspapers
Apache Junction Councilman Joseph Severs is the focus of multiple recall campaigns and is now accused of living in Gilbert, which is against city ordinance.
The councilman refutes the accusation.
According to city code, every elected Apache Junction council member, including the mayor, must live within city limits.
"I am living and working according to the law," said Councilman Severs after learning of the accusation.
Councilman Severs admits he is currently selling his house in Apache Junction, but says he has every intention of always maintaining a residence in AJ.
"I am a straight-up guy," he said. "I am not a wishy-washy guy. I am not fraudulent."
According to previous Arizona attorney general positions on the issue, as well as Arizona case law, residency is determined by looking at the intent of the elected official.
The intent of the elected official can be proven by numerous factors such as billing statements, driver’s license, vehicle registration, where children attend school and voter registration.
According to Arizona Revised Statute 38-291 if the person holding the office ceases to be a resident of the district they were elected to serve, he or she must vacate that post.
"It is based on my intent. When my intent changes, I will move on," Mr. Severs said. "My intent is to keep fighting for the rights of residents in this community."
Councilman Severs says he thinks this is all stemming from his daughter attending a Gilbert school.
"My wife and daughter are staying in Gilbert with my wife’s mother," explained the councilman. "Last time I checked, my wife and daughter are not on council."
Mr. Severs’ house in Apache Junction has been on the resale market for four months.
He claims that he stays periodically between his mother-in-law’s house, his bar, The Detour, 6403 W. Chandler Blvd., and his Apache Junction residence.
Jeff Serdy, another member of council and a recall target, says he hopes the accusations are false.
"I sure hope not, for the sake of the people that voted for him," Mr. Serdy said. "If he were doing this it would be fraud."
The mayor of Apache Junction says he does not want to talk about the alleged breach of city code.
"I am not commenting on this item," said the mayor. "I don’t want the councilman to think I am behind this because I am not."
Councilman Severs says he is approachable day and night and has no intentions of leaving the community he says he is fighting for.
"If you have a problem just call me," Mr. Severs said.
Councilman Severs can be contacted at 480-232-5368.
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